So do You Observe God’s Sabbath or Your Own?

So let’s just say the Sabbath was changed from the 7th day to the first day of the week. My question to the forum is this, were all of the rules that govern the Sabbath day changed also? And if they were, where in the bible can it be found? These questions are only for those that believe the Sabbath was either changed or they believe they can serve God on any day they choose verse the day He called Holy. For those that know the truth I offer the following:

There are activities God says should be avoided on the Sabbath Day. And to find them we will go the the same place we are to receive ALL of our religious doctrine….the Holy scriptures. Just as God did not leave it up to man to determine what sin is, He would not give us a commandment to keep the 7th day Holy and then leave it up to US to determine how it should observed. To find all of how God wants us to observe His Sabbath we must do as the scripture instructs, “ For precept must be upon precept…line upon line; here a little, and there a little.”, Isaiah 28: 10. Below are scriptures telling us exactly what God does and does not want us to do on His Holy Day; His Sabbath.

Exod 16;

[23] And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
[26] Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.

So above we can determine (2) things; first: the Sabbath is the 7th day and second: we are not to bake or boil (seethe) foods on the Sabbath. No cooking or heating foods on the Sabbath Day!

Neh 13;
[15] In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.
[16] There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
[17] Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the sabbath day?
[18] Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the sabbath.
[19] And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day.
[21] Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? if ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the sabbath.
[22]And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they
should come and keep the gates, to sanctify the sabbath day. Remember me, O
my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy.

Here we see the prophet Nehemiah contending with the people of Jerusalem about buying and selling on the Sabbath day. So much so that in verse (21) he tells them if they continue he will lay hands on them. No buying, selling or conducting business on the Sabbath Day, if it can be avoided! Jesus gave us the example of searching for the (1) lost sheep fallen into the pit being done on the Sabbath to show that some things may be done.

Matt.12
[11] And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
[12] How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.


Isa 58;
[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
[14] Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

Finally we see that we are not to do our own pleasure on Gods’ Holy day. We are to honor him, “not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:” No engaging in our own pleasures on the Sabbath Day!

Like I said earlier, above is for those that know the Sabbath has not changed.

For those that believe it has I must ask the following:

How do you observe your Sabbath? Is it observed on the 7th day of the week as it was done throughout the entire bible? Do you spend it going out for dinner with family and friends after a good Sunday service? Or do you prepare that great Sunday dinner at home? Do you go shopping or maybe to the movies? Or do you spend the afternoon working around the house before watching The Big Game? Either way, does the observance of your Sabbath mirror that of the examples given to us in the bible? Is your Sabbath the same as Gods’?

Great post!

Once, I saw a previous aquaintance and conversant on Sun-day at Walmart. He was a Roman Catholic, who asked me of all things, what I was doing there on Sunday! Then he said, I forgot, you keep Saturday. I said "yes and I don't shop on it either!" His head did one of those jerk things like I hit him with a 3 wood.

At least the Old line Catholics stayed faithful to their "Sol invictus" closed up shop and stayed home. But today, there are just as many compromising catholics as there are protestants. Again I wonder what exactly it is that they are protesting since they follow the bulk of Catholic doctrine and teaching without deviation.

They used to call this hipocrisy!

The Sabbath is still the Lord's day according to Isaiah 58:13 and Mark 2:28

Good Grief!

Thanks for reading and the reply. I find many people, RCC and Protestants, conducting business as usual on what they call their Sabbath day, Sunday. Which is what promted this question. As in all of my posts, this is not to change minds, that is Gods job. I'm just trying to get people to at least think about some of the things they practice. Question their pastors and ask...."Why do we do the things we do, if it is not in the scriptures?"

Take care and Peace in Jesus name.

Please explain where it states in the Bible that the remainder of the day's for which Yahweh created are unholy and not worthy of honouring Him? I understand all about the Sabbath Day, and you explained well, so can you please just answer my concern

I don't know, but I am beginning to believe that the mark of the beast has something
to do with buying and selling on the Sabbath...

Ya know about a year ago this very same concern came to me as well. So I searched out the Scriptures to be sure. And I never could find any passage, place or book indicating that our present day buying and selling on the 7th day or 2nd day had to do with the mark. And here is where my thought ceased:

Matthew 12:1-4
At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat.
But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

Mark 2:27
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

John 5:16
And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

Luke 6:5
And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

i am a born again christian my fiancee soon to be my wife which is not long dec the 18th 2008 is a female pastor i use to run a cleanning buisness and i had to clean 7 days a week i am a single father and i have to do what i can to stay ahead and out of debt i use to clean a supper market the reason i gave up was not to what you had shared if i had the right workers who were willing to work 7 days a week i would stil be holding the contrac i held and i would not have had to give the contrac up and move back to a city wear i am working under a boss

this all changed a long time ago when christ died those who kept the old sabbath were kiled they were seen as heritics trouble makers

Because me my fiance and the pastors under her in the philippines and all our members in the 5 churches planted under the one name come together and meet god on sunday is god really going to punish me and my fiancee and our members and the pastors under her ?

and if you are saying we should question pastors i should be then saying we should be questioning the rcc as it was the catholic church that changed the callender around this is why many christians go to church on sunday

something stinks and i smell a rat i am not kicking agianst gods laws or his sabbaths i have read up on this my self and i am weighting for two books to be sent to me

we have been coming to church know for ages were we hear the word get fed fellowship with each other share were we are at share what god has done in our lives thank god for what his son did on the cross take comunion why would you want to tel christians we have been lied to when we know who the real source is

and if you were to want chrstians to stop meeting on sunday and do as you have suggested i feel you wil get a few rebuking you teling you to stop laying the guilt trip on us who see nothing wrong with having sunday services

sunday is the best time for a lot of christians most people work monday to saturday and guys like my self who had a cleaning buisness have to work 7 days i stil hold my Australian buisness number ABN and my cleanning buinsness is registered and its in the buisness section of the yellow pages in the city i live in


i am a security guard i work thursday to sunday have monday to wednsday of i work night shifts and sleep through the day is god realy going to dril me i dont depend on hand outs i dont like going on a welfare payment i have always worked and i have put up with the jobs i have had land in my lap


i tythe i pray i fast i observe the 10 commandments but observing the 10 commandments is not going to stop me from sinning and observing the sabbath is not going to stop me from sinning we live in the real world and the real world we live in worships the god of this earth who is called satan the countrys we live in dont force the sabbath or the 10 commandments on to its citizans like i see proffessing christians doing were they pry into our priivate lives

i am not mocking you or am i having a go at you this topic has been brought up in this forum were the op has drilled those who disagree with him when you tel the op how you see it for your self the op shows you no respect he forces what he believes on to you where you tell the op you are an observer and not his student he treats you as his student and wil not give you a chance to speak


i dont believe in laying the guilt trip or prying into members lives i am not their benafactor or do i believe in lording it over our members in the philippines

i go to church on sunday i like going to church on sunday i like hanging out with my other brothers and sisters in the lord who also like going to church on sunday al the members in the church i am in know while working abroad look forward to sunday sunday is the only time we can be together my pastor and my fiancee who is a female pastor have not rebuked me and told me i am not to work on a sunday they dont take my wil of me they give me the freedom i need were i grow closer to god

observing the sabbath is not going to help me pay the rent pay the electricity pay the phone bill keep my car on the road or pay for my sons school uniform and observing the sabbath day is not going to help me when my fiancee lives in the philippines and i live in Australia a plane ticket is not going to fall out of the sky and land in my lap we have to also use our brain god has given us i go by an old saying god helps those who help them selves if your a bumb dont expect money to magicaly fall out of the sky and land in your lap plane tickets are expensive they are not cheep

i support my fiancee while i am weighting for my citazenship to be approved for me to live in the philippines


tel me something if you were to say type up one letter and then send this letter out to every pastor what responces would you get would it be a possative responce or a negative responce ?

thanks for sharing this with us but i dont need to threat or change what i am doing because we have a few christians trying to tell us whe have been lied to

the jews and the rcc are to blame not us Gentiles or us pagans what a pagan does should not be our concern they worship satan so they wil not even take on board when it comes to do you observe the sabbath

i keep sunday when i can if i am not called to work a night shift to my self i go to the 10.30am morning family service





Damo

That's just it Damo; Christians may meet on Sunday, Wedensday or Tuesday but they do not meet to worship the DAY..Hello!? Yahshua even say's this:
Matthew 6:34
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

God forbid that I have to concern myself with which day I worship Yahshua on!

Colossians 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

PS: What about the eighth day?
Philippians 3:5
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

Like I said in the beginning of this topic, I fully understand that everyone does not observe the 7th day Sabbath as God instructs us to do. I mean, afterall...it is His Sabbath. And seeing as He is the Master and we are His servants, it would seem logical that we OBAY the creator. But that is not the question I presented to the forum.

If you would like to worship on the 1st, 2nd, 4th or any day is fine. But my question was about the rules governing Gods Sabbath day. Were those changed also? Even if you decide to worship on another day, are you not to at least follow the rules God gave us to observe? Or are you saying not only can you worship God on the day you choose, but you can also do whatever you like on the day God set aside, santified and made Holy?

So again: How do you observe YOUR Sabbath?


Now here is something for you to think about while you are trying to find out how God says you should govern yourself on whatever day You decide to worship Him on.

Here is a passage from the book of Isaiah. And as you read you will find this passage is speaking about the 2nd coming of our Lord.


ISAIAH 66:

[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
[18] For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
[22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.


As you can see from reading above this is the time when God will return with vengence upon the earth. It is a time of "Jacobs trouble" as some call it. But the next verse is what I want the readers to focus on:


[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.


My question is about the sabbath spoken of that "ALL FLESH" will come to worship before the Lord on. Do you think THAT SABBATH will be the same SABBATH that God said will be an everlasting covenant?

EXODUS 31:
[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Now I know some are saying that this is for the nation of Israel..well is it really? Let's see what the scriptures have to say:

ISAIAH 56:
[2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
[6] Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

Do you think at that time those that worship God will have a choice in the matter as far as which day they say is the Sabbath?

Now these are just additional questions, but remember, my main questions is still.....How do you observe YOUR Sabbath?

as i said in my reply to you and another sister we dont meet to worship the day we meet to worship the lord if it where were you were to do what the pharisees were doing wher they added extra commandments so not to sin you would be seen as a pharisee were you only come to worship the day

if you say we are to observe the sabbath day then you are to also circumcise your self and keep all the laws which the disciples dared not force on no one


hears the catch 22 and you tell me if we are to force believers to observe the sabbath day since the world does not honor god or does the world take on his sabbath day and since the world does not honor god why tel christians to stop doing what they have been so use to just because you feel we are not keeping the sabbath day as i said i look forward to sunday this is the day wher i can be with like minded souls is god realy going to rebuke me for keeping sunday as the day were i am fed were i am encouraged where i share and have the chance to pray over a new believer or pray over my brothers and sisters ? i come to worship god i dont worship the sabbath day like some do keeping the sabbath day as i said in my responce is not going to help me meet my needs or wil it give me a free pass into heaven


Acts 15 English standard version


5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the pharisees rose up and said It is nessarey to circumcise them and order them to keep the law of moses


see what your question is asking


your qustion is ordering us to keep the day free your question is not bringing your hearers closser to god


10 Now therefore why are you putting god to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear


the pharisees were placing a yoke over the Gentiles by ordering all Gentiles to get circumcised as i said the pharisees added extra commandments to make them selves look good and by making them selves look good they did what ever to be no where near sin

and in comes gods son not god but gods son Jesus Jesus saw what the pharisees were doing and he challanged them by saying your righteousness wil get you now where


paul preached on the sabbath day jesus healed on the sabbath day


its evident in the new testament but we have one teacher hear saying jesus keept the sabbath day if jesus kept the sabbath day why did he die under the mosaic law it was the mosaic law that ended gods sons life

are you in fear that god is not happy with us meeting on sunday and if you are in fear are you scared that we are going to bring his wrath onto us for meeting on sunday instead of keeping the sabbath day to our selves ?



we obey the creator and dont worship the day he set aside why change things around ? no pastor wil do this and i can tel you the members would not even put up with it you will find ther wil be empty churches or les people coming to church due to some men and women and youngsters working on a saturday and if this were to hapen it would even criple our countrys to were you wil see our goverments asking for imagrants to come in and live in our countrys and work


read up on what i have been going over and you wil see where heritics were killed those that kept the sabbath day and tried to force it on others in their community were killed


this al changed when christ died under the old mosaic law


you have not had ozel or bro tan apply wait til they apply and then you wil get some good conversations flowing


we have talked about this in our church and every one agreed to keep sunday as our day where we come to meet with god and fellowship and share and pray over our selves

i know he is my master and i know god is not going to slap me because i decide to keep sunday to my self if i am called up to work i wil go to the 10.30 am family service and come home rest and do my night shift with out feeling guilty or letting any one lay the guilt trip on me



Damo

Again, thanks for reading the post. I just want you to know I'm not trying to change your mind about what day you worship God on. What I am asking you is this; Does your Sabbath day activities mirror the way God said we should observe the Sabbath?

Here is what the scriptures say our Sabbath day activities should or should not include:

EXODUS 16:
[23] And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

EXODUS 31:
[15] Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest,

Neh 13;
[15] In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.
[16] There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
[17] Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the sabbath day?
[18] Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the sabbath.
[19] And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day.
[21] Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? if ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the sabbath.
[22]And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they
should come and keep the gates, to sanctify the sabbath day. Remember me, O
my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy.

Here we see the prophet Nehemiah contending with the people of Jerusalem about buying and selling on the Sabbath day. So much so that in verse (21) he tells them if they continue he will lay hands on them. No buying, selling or conducting business on the Sabbath Day!

Isa 58;
[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
[14] Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

Finally we see that we are not to do our own pleasure on Gods’ Holy day. We are to honor him, “not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:” No engaging in our own pleasures on the Sabbath Day!


So whether you worship God on the 1st day, 7th day or any day in between, do you follow what God says we should and shouldn't do on the Sabbath?

1. No Cooking!

2. Resting!

3. No buying, selling or conducting business on the Sabbath Day!

4. Not engaging in our own pleasures on the Sabbath Day!


The other part to my question was that if your activities do not mirror what God has said for us to do, where in the scriptures can I find that change?



And again, here is something for you to think about:

Here is a passage from the book of Isaiah. And as you read you will find this passage is speaking about the 2nd coming of our Lord.


ISAIAH 66:

[15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
[17] They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
[18] For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
[22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.


As you can see from reading above this is the time when God will return with vengence upon the earth. It is a time of "Jacobs trouble" as some call it. But the next verse is what I want the readers to focus on:


[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.


My question is about the sabbath spoken of that "ALL FLESH" will come to worship before the Lord on. Do you think THAT SABBATH will be the same SABBATH that God said will be an everlasting covenant?

EXODUS 31:
[16] Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

Now I know some are saying that this is for the nation of Israel..well is it really? Let's see what the scriptures have to say:

ISAIAH 56:
[2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
[6] Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

Do you think at that time those that worship God will have a choice in the matter as far as which day they say is the Sabbath?

Now these are just additional questions, but remember, my main questions is still.....How do you observe YOUR Sabbath? No matter what day you worship, do you do it according to the way God instructs us to?

And if not, why not?

Nowhere in the bible does it state that the rest of His days are unholy and that He can not be honoured. It is just the opposite:

GEN 1:
[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Worship to God can and should be done on every day, but HE instructs us to set a certain day aside just for Him. As I said before, we are the servants, and God is the Master. He commands, we follow. God and Him alone declares what is Holy and santified. We do not have a choice in the matter as some think. On second thought....God does give us a choice. Just as He gave the nation of Israel a choice:

DEUT. 30
[15] See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
[16] In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
[17] But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
[19] I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

So yes....you may choose to serve God on whatever day you please....but I must warn you........choose wisely! Your life does depend upon it.

yes it would be good to have this day to were we rest but with the way the world is and the way we are brought up no one gets the chance to rest not even our pastors

my fiancee who soon wil be my wife on the 18th of dec 2008 and the pastors under her work from tuesday to sunday and have monday as their day of rest were they do nothing the day is spent with their familys eccl12 and 13 in the philippines the pastors work more hard than i have seen hear in Australia her day starts at 8am with tthe other pastors and they have a lot of members to catch up with they have there appointments booked out they all come to the church office pray for half an hour or 2hrs have breakfast togetther and head off my fiancee stays in bacolod from monday to wed and is in la castellan wed to sunday we are raising up an assistant pastor who is a female and she is very good and i am also being raised up la castellana is 2hrs from bacolod

when she is in bacolod tuesday to wed she wil do the book work some counsling check up on the deakons and leaders and then head off on thursday morning around 10am her day as i said starts at 8am and does not finsh any where until midnight some times if she is lucky she comes home at 10.30pm or 11pm at night their have been times were she has come home after midnight eccl 12 and 13

if you were to obsere the day as i said it would criple the country and christians would have their pays cut or the boss wil sack them i have seen this happen where you try to negotiate time off yet due to the way our country is and many to lazy to work who decide center link gives them a good wage were they can bludge sleep in do as they please and only put their form in every fortnight this is why i gave up my contrac i did not want to give up my contrac i was getting a good wage $1,400 a fortnight i had pay also for my workers who would only last a couple of days i was taking their tax out and then putting money into the supper by law we who are employers have to do this and i had to pay every fortnight to be covered my insurance for the supper market covered me and my workers due to people wanting to claim fake claims guys like me are an easy target

my two workers were payed $900 a fortnight and could take time off i also had to put money aside for my cleanning equipment which came out of the contrac i did not want to pull the pin you only worked from 3am to 7am monday to sunday and had the rest of the day and night off you worked on long weekends and public holdidays

i was stil able to make it to church which i would go to the 10.30am family service in the country town i was living in and as i said god did not punish me or did he rebuke me

i hear you but as i said catch 22 and the way things have changed i dont see god getting hot under the collar hecause we keep sunday as our day where worship god and not the day



i feel you wil have others saying what i have said to you this wil never happen




Damo

Damo:

God understands if you must work on your Sabbath, but I don't think; not cooking,buying and selling for approx. a (12hr) period, will bring the economy of Australia to a hault.

Again, just bringing this up so that those that may not know there are activities that shoiuld and should not be done on the Sabbath do exsist.

And congrats to you and your fiancee.