Who do they think they are? The majority of Californians voted to keep marriage between a man and a woman, but these people act as though the entire world and all of government, belongs to them.

Remember that The Domestic Partners Act gave them all of the rights that married couples have in the way of inheritance, life insurance settlements, etc, and many of them have gone through private ceremonies of their own making. That was a fair compromise to most people. This is about trying to make homosexuality seem normal and to push it onto preceding generations through schools, literature, however else they can do it.

Now, there are articles circulating in the local news that they are boycotting Utah's tourist industry because the Mormons pumped millions of dollars into advertisements in California, to keep the traditional family intact. This is also a direct war against Christians and other religions that believe that homosexuality is wrong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081109/ap_on_...arriage_marches

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...tt/?partner=RSS

According to political analysis cited in the news, Proposition 8 was victorious because the presidential candidate Obama mobilized the Latino and African-American voter base, flooding the polls with a 71% turnout amongst registered Black voters alone, and African-Americans are traditionally pro-traditional values in marriage; and their political administrators have commented that the homosexual issue is not a civil rights issue; instead, it is an issue dealing with biblical Christian principles, their erosion by the concept of homosexual marriage, a perversion of this sacred union between a heterosexual man and a woman. Latinos' traditional Catholic background served not to endorse the homosexual agenda. So really, the Mormon Church is a red herring and misdirected target; the homosexuals should actually be thanking the Latino and African-American vote for the success of Proposition 8.

SEE: http://www.dailynews.com/ci_10910908

Did you see on the news where the got school children on a field tripe seen to a court near them, only to set the up to see a guy wedding bieng done. Elamanty kids being brainwashed into believeing it is ok...Nut jobs!

Yes, and that should not have happened....I would have been outraged!

We have a lot of illegals here from Mexico, and Californians are upset because of the cost to the state, but now they've kept us from becoming a cesspool. Imagine that.

If these people all had guest passes and could work legally, they would pay enough social security to foot the bill for retiring baby boomers, and they would have to charge comparable wages as the legal workers..... once they have deductions withheld. Not only that, but many of them would no longer qualify for welfare, Medical, food stamps, etc. The state would then make money from their work and save money on free handouts.

Excuse me, but have you read the entire article on this issue? The teacher sent permission slips home, and only two of the parents didn't sign it. I don't see anything wrong with this.

As to prop 8, I'm upset that it passed. Personally, I hope it's taken to the California Supreme Court soon.

Then you Love the sin of the world? That makes you an enemy of God.


James 4
4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.








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Everyone in the world has his or her own vice. Does that make the entire human race God's enemy?

Btw, I don't support prop 8 because I think the USA has more important issues to worry about than same-sex marriage.

Like what?

Do you realize all that goes along with legalizing gay marraige? The next step is to penalize clergy for not marrying homosexuals. That would mean most pastors. The next step is to outlaw preaching against homosexual behavior from the Bible. This is already the way it is in Europe and New York City. The next step is to legalize and mandate the public educators to teach all children from kindergarden and up all about homosexuality and other similar lifestyles and sexual practices. This is already the case in California. Rampant homosexualit and approval of homosexuality is the sign of God handing over a people to their own sinful ways. Think about it DID.

Romans 1:19-32.
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Yes! That makes everyone who is not walking in the Light of Christ, "God's Enemy".

Every nation on earth will be destroyed soon because of it.

Only those who are walking in the faith of Christ will not be harmed.

They know where the water supply is. When the Lord's prophets remove the water from earth.


Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.


Revelation 11
3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
10 -- because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.







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How do you know all these things are going to happen? Unless you can prove that these things will happen, the things you said are only assumptions.








You said those who love the sin of the world are enemies of God. Yet even those who "walk in the light of Christ" commit sins that they excuse... but they are not enemies of God? This is a little confusing.

The majority spoke, and, won. Welcome to Democracy.

Those who have been forgiven for their sins, no longer sin.

Even though they ask God daily to forgive their trespasses, just in case there is something that they don't know about.

The follower of Christ never lets the sun go down on their sin.

There is nothing to be confused about. Those who ask receive. Those who don't ask don't receive because they don't believe to ask.

Not believing in Christ carries a death sentence when God's Grace ends for those who have not asked.







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The bold statement is false.

I know plenty of other Christians who sin constantly. Just because you are saved doesn't mean you magically stopped sinning.

FWIW......I am very glad that the Proposition passed, but equally sad that it was only by a very small margin. It is not surprising that there were riots and marching in the streets. It is only a matter of time until we are completely to this point:


http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=23460&hl=


We should be on our faces before the Lord.


In His Love,
Suzanne

I am sad at what these adults are trying to teach the kids:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445865,00.html


In His Love,
Suzanne

Ezekiel 18 English standard version



4 Behold all souls are mine the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine the soul who sins shall die


what the lord is saying hear is simple the ones who sin wil die he does not hold it against the church or those who dont sin he holds the one who sins responsible

that means if the gay community is in sin does not repent does not believe when he says its time to judge this earth the gay community wil be punished not you not me or the pastors in california or the judge or the amendment that has been pushed were the rights of a gay to marry are accepted they know its sin they are aware of what the bible has to say but they dont want to take notice the gay community is rebelling just like the homosexuals that god destroyed in sodom and gomorah the homosexuals did as they pleased they ignored what the prophets had to say they loved living this perverted life style so god did the right thing when he sent his two angels to destroy sodom and gomorah for the sins they were committing god was seeing what was unfolding in sodom and gomorah the homosexuals even wanted to have sex with the two male angels lot begs them when they turn up on his door step saying brothers these men are my guests in my home they are under my prottection he pleads with the homosexual males saying have my two daughters they are virgins do as you please with my two daughters but leave the two men who are my guests alone

lot was ready to give up his two daughters and when the angels saw what was to unfold they acted and told lot to get his surviving family out what does lots wife do she turns back to take a peek and by doing this she was punished


20 The soul who sins shall die the son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father or the father suffer for the iniquity of the son

The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him self and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself


end time thinks he is special end time wants us to listen to him to where we adore and worship end time he wants us to stop reading our bible end time has all the answers and he wants us to let him teach us

end time has not got a clue or does he have this ability to teach anyone


21 But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right he shall surely live he shall not die

22 None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him for the righteousness that he has done he shall live

23 Have i any pleasure in the death of the wicked declares the lord God and not rather that he should turn from his way and live ?


end time wants this community to suffer he does not want to reach out to the gays so he is leaving his doom and gloom scriptures he knows god does not want the pleaure in the death of the wicked end time has not got the guts to preach the gospel jesus preached to were he takes it to the streets he lives in and does what jesus said to his disciples in mattthew 28 end time wants his own following in this forum if you agree with end time he wil be nice if you disagree with end time he wil call you out try to cast you out of the body end time wil even say in this forum for others to hear that you are a follower of satan


dont let end time trap you or decieve you

God wil only deal with the soul that sins as all souls go back to him he wil not deal with us who pray over the gay community as i said they are aware of who god is



Damo

Why must so many teachers act like idiots nowadays?

This teacher did not seek parental permission before enngaging in this activity. Homosexuality is a sensitive and personal subject. Teachers should ALWAYS seek parental permission before teaching it to children.

that is right teachers should seek the permission of the parents first and discuss this with the parents first before taking a child on a school activety my son is 11yrs old he goes to a public school and they have teachers teaching the same rubbish that is being taught in california my x wife sends me my sons school reports if she needs money for school excurssions she rings me she has even told the principal that my son is not to be taught what i am hearing that is being taught in the public schools in california and no we are not homophobics we just want our son to have a normal life were he is not forced or taught something that me and his mother are against


when you send a child to a public school you have to trust that they wil be taught right and when it comes to school excurssions this has to be signed by the parents and the teacher talking to the parents stating what the intentions are when it comes to taking the kids out of school grounds and into the public their is a lot to consider like their saftey travel insurance and then leaving contac numbers in case of an emergancy like the school bus being involved in an accident what time to drop your child off supervission and who wil be with the kids what time to pick them up and what to pack

the teachers in my sons school communicate to my x wife and she then passes everything on to me these are the orders set by the family law court and both me and my x wife have to abide by the orders the family law court has set out we both had to sign the orders given to us she agreed to talk with me send me school reports tel me if he is playing up tel me what subjects he needs to improve and tels me if he gets into trouble


this is how it works in Australia yes with what Desendant of Darkness said teachers are stupid yet they treat us parents as the stupid ones because they are teaching our kids my x wife goes over everything my son brings home even over his home work if she sniffs out a rat she wil rock the boat being irish and having irish blood running through her vains she is a very firery women

if i want to take my son and educate him all i have to do is let my x know i am coming down for a couple of days pick my son up catch the train to sydney and go to a coffee shop in padington buy a coffe and buy my son what he wants to drink have lunch and let him for him self see why its sin with out me running down the gay community to wher he picks up what i believe in i let my son decide for him self we have always been open with my son we hold nothing back from my son like some parents do today like finding it hard to were they cant say where babies come from or what happens to a boy when his urges are out of control or what hapens when a boy and girl kiss for the first time and the big one sex many christian parents dodge talking on sex with there kids they some how leave it to the youth pastor or pastor or the tv thinking that it wil be best for them to learn from the tv


my son knows why god hates what the gay community stands for with out getting to carried away like end time is when ever you respond and dont agree with end time he gets very offensive

know because i took my son to padington sat at a coffee shop were he was able to observe what other parents wil not discuss with their kids am i a bad parent is my x wife a bad mother ? i am a christian i dont shield my son from the real world he gets on with al people from al nations just like me he has a caring attitude towards people from al nations

i also have gay friends and i have a close friend who use to be a male prostitute he know reaches out and has been able to bring many male prostitutes to christ he is not scared to preach the true gospel christ preached he has the guts to do what end time cant do

end time wants a following were members agree with him like saying god wil send the gay community to hell

you as a parent are responsible how your kid is raised not the teachers or the youth pastor or the pastor them selves

if you want to shield your child from the real world dont come hear to this forum setting up topics asking us how our kids are coping if you have not got the guts to be open and honest with your kids dont come down on parents like me and my x wife who are open with our children were we hold nothing back

our parents did this with us they were scared to touch up on the topics we talk about with our son even though i am divorced and no longer with my x wife we have shown him we can get on we have shown him their is no reason to hate the x like i see today where men and women cant get on and when a kid sees this they join sides with the party who hates the father or mother

my son has also been brought up to respect women he is dating a 15yr old he is tal like me he is only 11yrs old but very mature for his age my x wife told me she had a mother up her because she said my son is going out with a 15yr old girl

if i had nothing but hate my son would have picked up on this to were he just swears at the gay men and calls them everything under the sun and i have heard some stupid things coming out of the mouths from so called born again christians who call them selves his followers

god says hate the sin he does not say to hate the person christians i know hate the sin and the person and you wonder why the church is in such a mess today to where we turn our hearers off

why could not the church do what the mormans did it took a cult to make a stand where was the true followers of christ why were not the true followers of christ supporting the mormans it had to take a cult to have the bill pass

hold on i know where the true followers are hear in this forum caling guys like my self out saying things like satans follower may be i should use my fathers name satan since my full name is Damien i use damo due to it being my nick name the young people in the philippines call me Damo know if i had satans child since my name is Damien i wonder how many proffesing christians would come against me all due to me ussing my fathers name satan

but i am jesus disciple the difrence with me i dont use doom and gloom scriputres like some do to wher i hide behind the scriptures i know and let them do the talking for me






Damo