Seeing the rapture is a false doctrine I had no need to read the post as I was immediately assured that it would also be false. A true prophet will speak the truth on all matters as if he spoke the very words of God.

Excubitor (as a P.S. before what I am posting--I just caught your reply.), the vision doesn't necessarily fail to meet the "rapture" test, since there is not a time-frame given for all of the events. Consider what I say below. The rapture mentioned in the vision is not necessarily indicative of a pre-trib rapture as some may assume. It sounds like the events are occurring IN the tribulation.

I am wary of near-death experiences in the fact that Satan and his demons can falsify them so as to hide the truth and confuse believers. I know this because the lost have them as well and have been deluded about the after-life through them.

While there's not a definite time-frame as to the vision's events, it sounds like things get pretty bad here in the U.S. in a hurry. In that respect, I suspect the tribulation to already have begun at that point. Many have stated a good possibility that the tribulation itself starts here in the end of '08, possibly December 21, 2008, if not already started. If the missles on east and west coasts mentioned in this vision occur, it will probably be the sixth seal (Revelation 6:12-15) opening. If so, I can also demonstrate that the 1st-5th seals would have already opened by looking at world events in terms of terrorism, war on terrorism, food prices/shortages, and persecution--much of which is already in progress around the world, but not yet hit the U.S. and wealthier nations.

Paul Washer's word here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7UyZYpeReY...feature=related are a very pointed word of what is likely to happen to America's Christians in short order. We must seek Christ and abandon the world's system, not failing to be salt and light while still present, however.

May we seek him more every day (and pray for Obama's safety.)

In Christ,

Mike

If we're to take it with a grain of salt why even bother to post it...

But you just keep um coming loey..

You know what dennis likes to say...Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut.

If the said events do not transpire, as probably will be the case, I hope someone will kindly tell Scott Walkington that his life after death experience was totally unreliable.
The only thing what could, maybe, delay Obama from being sworn in, is if it was found for a fact that he was not born in the United States. That could case some problems and possible rioting in the streets.

I have become very weary to post anything like a vision on this forum, even though it is a partial confirmation of what I have been shown.
As the choppers already line up, it may be better for them to find out themselves and learn from what cynicism and narrowmindedness can cause.

As I know what I saw, I am still studying the Scriptures to see of what I have seen, lines up with the Word (not for myself, since I know what I saw) but to strengthen the case before those who are chopperhappy.

Until then, let the events themselves speak.

Sure Lois, criticize then take it off. You post so much that nobody can weed through it. And l do mean weed. We practically begged you to stop when you first came to the forum..We were trying to work out prophesying and you barged in and basically said 'forget you..l'm going to do what ever l want'. You've posted hundreds of pages of cut and paste stuff that everybody can go find on their own. But you continue to shove it at us. Larry even repented of this stuff but you just keep going and going..Anything that's good sown here gets lost in the swamp and it turns most off to prophesying. And you accused me of being influenced by the devil because l oppose most of this.. Lois Lois...what should l say. I've said once ..then twice...l don't want to again. You're lost in your support system..rise up out of it...The Lord says he will raise you up out of that captive place..

Lois...get over the flakey...Test everything..If you believe it with all your heart then post it and let the others test it if they want. Most just don't want to cause you flood us with quail.

Miki....God wants us to build up - not tear down! Share your portion of Christ and not your strife. I tell you honestly that you cannot move forward in kingdom purpose until you deal with what holds you back. Be done with unforgiveness, bitterness, condemnation, unrighteous judgments, contentions, jealousy, and selfish ambitions. In so doing you will arise to new heights spiritually. Come up higher, says your God.
Remove the spiders from your life.

Do not ignore them or they will multiply.

Running with Jesus in the love realm................who are you running with?

u-tube
what it really means to love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XqJd7h-YlE

Do not grow weary or confused. If you seek me you will find me. I will demonstrate my power and righteousness through those who know me.
You will recognize them by the authority and
abundance of my love.

Continue to ask me for wisdom, for you shall surely receive it. Spread my truth in love, for there are many who need me.

Remove the spiders from your life. Do not ignore them or they will multiply.

Continue listening for me for I am communicating with my creation. Know my love and draw near. Ask me, so I might supply your needs. Nothing shall keep me away from those I love.

Knock down the lies and high places of my enemies. There rebuild my altars for I am holy. I am placing a new mantle about your shoulders. It will conceal a sash of blue and gold. Remain covered in me. Those that are actively seeking me will find me. I will be their great reward.