~Prayer Cloth Mission~ for the Daughter's of God [IHVH]



Dear Forum :

I have revised the mission purpose language, of the 'Prayer Cloth Mission'.


Daughter's, we demonstrate our subjection to the Lord, by bringing
all matter's including our mates/marriage partner's, under the subjection
of the divine Will of the Lord. The decision of His grace to spare the infidel
and to hold back WRATH upon disobedience, is like `stink in His
nostrils` . . .


(some research about, 'stink in my nostrils')
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=25090&hl=
Why Do We Say, “god Bless You”, When We Sneeze ?, What is the
sneezing parallel to ‘stink in my nostrils’ ?





The time of His grace, under the upcoming time of wrath is short
and pressing the daughter's of God . . . to perform His anointing, of
the prayer cloth mission, explained in 'The Jesse, Story' : (excerpt, below)



'THE JESSE, STORY':
Daughter's Of God Prayer Unite W/anointed Husband's,
PRAYER CLOTH included : see John 1:12-13
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...=12#entry256487


EXCERPT:
. . . the ole' 70 year old Pentecostal Preacher, gave the woman an oil anointed prayer cloth.

And this was the ole' preacher's instructions :

" Sister, place this prayer cloth inside the pillow case of your infidel husband, God [IHVH}
will deliver him to you saved and sanctified or remove him from you " !




When the Lord removes His shield of protection upon a person, who
is the infidel in non-compliance with the Father's Will, a sister or
brother can become that infidel's intercessor.


However, if the intercessor is being prevented from `her` or `his` mission
assignment, due to the infidel, there is the clear line of demarcation between
being an ENABLER, that causes interference of the movement
of `The Holy Ghost`. This `interference` can disrupt the mission of the
daughter of God and become a deflector shield, that prevents the
anointing fire of the Lord, from healing the infidel.


The anointed prayer cloth, is enforcing the intercessor to remove the shield
of compassion/pity (interference), so the `fire of redemption` allows the
`infidel` to be humbled to their knees . . . in the last chance of redemption.


`DO NOT` DAUGHTER'S OF GOD [IHVH] BE THE ENABLER, IN YOUR
PITY FOR THE INFIDEL/LUKEWARM HUSBAND !



http://www.moshereiss.org/messenger/06_mos...burningbush.jpg



Read below how serious it is to be turned over to a `reprobate mind` . . .
that I have been shown HUSBAND'S are facing, a spiritual deadline
decision about, as I write these word's November 6th, 2008 :

[see Genesis 6:3 and Romans 1:28, to understand the seriousness
of the decision of God, who can give husband's over to a `reprobate` mind]



Genesis 6:3

King James Bible
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.


Romans 1:28

King James Bible
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reprobate

1. a depraved, unprincipled, or wicked person: a drunken reprobate.
2. a person rejected by God and beyond hope of salvation.
–adjective 3. morally depraved; unprincipled; bad.
4. rejected by God and beyond hope of salvation.
–verb (used with object) 5. to disapprove, condemn, or censure.
6. (of God) to reject (a person), as for sin; exclude from the number of the elect or from salvation.



The facts are, the end times are here.

And it is fast approaching that husband's and wive's, must
be partnered with anointed spouse's. And the division will not
be a small matter.


The dividing line, of whether the partner is a `reprobate` or `anointed
of God`, will be a clear line of demarcation.


Even the earth has fault lines of demarcation :

http://www.ussartf.org/images/san_andreas.gif




Women, we stand in the time urgency for the daughter's of God, who are being required to become united with anointed husband's !


PREPARE YOUR `PRAYER CLOTH`, FOR THE MISSION !






11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.

I would like to add the following comment.

Wives love your unbelieving husbands and husbands love your unbelieving wives. Let the light of your love be a beacon to them, that they too may step into the light.

Gideon said, I love great Christian women today. They give such a tremendous effort and have been very instrumental in making the world a better place. Women now a days have an incredible opportunity to shine for Jesus. We may very well go back to the times where people would touch the hem of a garment and be healed. It is the faith that does the healing. Whether it be Paul's cloth or the hem of a prophet. God awaits to bring us the miracles we desire and need. It first starts with a desire or an ideal and may flourish into a powerful organism that calls down the power of God.
Oct 29 2008, 09:50 PM
Post#15
Daughter's Of God Prayer Unite W/anointed Husband's, PRAYER CLOTH included : see John 1:12-13
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...=12#entry254801

. . . shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come," Matt. 12:22-32

The "reprobate (rejected) land" of Heb 6:8 is land that by bearing thorns and thistles has failed to meet the test of the husband man. It should be noticed, however, that adokimos, even in these cases, always retains the meaning of rejection because of failure in trial; compare in the last-named passage: "rejected and nigh unto cursing."


http://www.bible-history.com/isbe/R/REPROBATE/

I think many of us struggle with this Betty. With loved ones...not just mates.

My particular struggle ( not open battle ) is to pray and try to show by example...at times I fail in the example I set but I do try.

`DO NOT` DAUGHTER'S OF GOD [IHVH] BE THE ENABLER, IN YOUR PITY FOR THE INFIDEL/LUKEWARM HUSBAND!

Women need to really look at whether they are a enabler or not so many are and their lives are miserable because their husband has no respect for them. Yes women are to love thier husbands but it does not mean being a rug. When you enable them they are not learning anything if they do something wrong! Love them but do not compromise for them! My first husband the first time he hit me I called the police and told him I will not put up with that I love you but violence I will not put up with and I did not back down. Time is short and a infidel/lukewarm husband needs to be brought close to the Lord soon. Ask the Lord to help by putting an oil anointed prayer cloth under your infidel husbands pillow as C7 has said. Faith has a way of changing peoples lives awesomely!

I liked the Jesse story. I imagined myself in her place having to give someone you barely know something that that the Lord told you to! She followed what the Lord asked her to do

I posted twice!!

I shared this story with C7 and thought I would share it with you all.

First of all, I want to say that what Adonicole said is absolutely right. We must love our unbelieving spouse and be a living example to them.

With that said, I want to share a little bit of my testimony in regards to this matter.

Several years ago a pastor instructed me to pray over a piece of cloth and place it in my husbands pillowcase. Not that the cloth itself had any significance to it, but it was a simple act of faith in prayer to pray for my husband who went to church every week, but was not walking with the Lord. He was highly addicted to pornograpy and had been drinking everyday for a couple of years. He also became abusive.

I was desperate. I did this act of faith.

I found the prayer cloth cast aside (i think my husband may have changed the sheets on his pillow) I then placed the prayer cloth under the fitted sheet by his head.

We had sold our home shortly after (my husband talked me into it) we bought a motorhome to travel around the country and I again placed the prayer cloth under the sheet in the bed of the motorhome. The first night we "lived" in the motorhome after leaving our sold home, it was chaotic. My husband was abusive and angry that the cat "pooped" on the bed . I was overwhelmed. Trying to be ok with selling our beautiful home and cramming three cats, two dogs and our two amazing kids into a motorhome. I ended up leaving the motorhome and slept in our jeep that first night. I couldn't handle the stress.

about an hour later, my husband came out holding something white. I thought he was coming with a pillow and an apology. I was wrong.

It was the prayer cloth.

He slammed it onto the windshield of the jeep and left.

The strange thing is that to this day, I have never told him what the white napkin with embroidery flowers on it was. Something in him did not like it.

long story short, the next couple of days were horrible. I ended up taking my children with the clothes on our back and driving 1500 miles to my parents. I really thought it would shake my husband into reality that his behavior was going to cost him his family.

He took it as an opportunity to divorce me and blamed it on me for driving away. (I never left my marriage, )

He divorced me and married the woman he was commiting adultery with . He justifies it because he "witnessed" to this woman and now she is a "Christian"...

I have been set free.

It wasn't what I wanted. I wanted God to heal my marraige and deliver my husband from the bondage of sin.

I stood for my marraige to be healed, willing to forgive him of adultery etc. . I did this for two years.

Finally, I prayed. Lord, your will be done

my husband married that woman and I feel some closure.

I still have waves of grief, but I trust my Lord and Savior Jesus so much.

Maybe losing his family was what it will take to get the heart and soul of my ex-husband where it needs to be. I pray for him and his new wife often.

I now know that it was Gods will to free me from that horrible situation. For myself as well as for my childrens sake.

My kids have pressed into the Lord and are serving HIm.

I don't know what my future holds,

But I trust HIM.

The thought of getting married again scares me greatly,

There is a godly man in my life who truly loves God.

all I can say is God is guilding now.

NON-forum member, shares an infidel story :




Oh my goodness. I have known for several years the meaning of why I was removed from my infidel husband. And I use the term for what it is, infidel. All of this so applies to me and my thinking about my upcoming life.

I have talked with my ex and he still is an infidel that hides behind the Bible and scripture, only to continue his corrupted life. He will not repent he only says he has made mistakes he is not proud of, but will not name a thing.

I don't need for him to be anything or admit anything.
I only needed to get away from him, so I could perform the righteous work that God has planned for me. I only professed Christ into my life as I was leaving him nearly 7 years ago.
It was during that time that many things were revealed to me and I knew I was being shoved away from an unrealistic situation that was killing my spirit.
I had the Holy Spirit or angels give me a writing one afternoon as we were going thru our divorce to give to him. It was so brief and so telling and to the point as to what was happening and why and what he needed to do.
He never did what they told him.
Thanks so much for your openness and wonderful work you are doing for us sister's in Christ.

Message of tangible/intangible : HOLY GHOST GIFTS
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=24189&hl=


The message was clear, that I must in my human education, learning, study and knowledge CUT the
cords of tangible understanding in these areas, to release the intangible gift's of the spirit of healing
and laying on of hands, anointing with oil cloth.

Meaning, each tangible item must be sacrificed and/or crucified/circumcised to allow the HOLY GHOST to operate in the intangible/impalpable arena of HEALING.

God has spoken...cut the cords and be set free of the shackle upon your ankle.
Trust in God and lean not upon your own understanding. The infidel must leave
and let go in Jesus name.

I dreamed this only last night...without details it was a picture of a man with horns,
red, just like we depict the adversary, yet I knew that it is a nagging, and dragging
of my past upon my future. This was only last night...

You have, indeed, delivered a word in due season.

Shalom,
Signet

Does this mean that there is a difference between -
a confessing christian (who isn't living it out)
and an unbeliever

I'm just wondering, I recently read up on Christian divorce and came to the conclusion that many christians basically cruise through marriage relying on the verse which says that you shouldn't divorce except for marital unfaithfulness (so they basically treat their spouse as badly as they can get away with without actually doing the deed of adultery), rather than looking up and trying to have the best marriage they can, which honours God and respects the other partner. I think a lot of legalists do this... they think that just because they haven't been "unfaithful" then they are ok to abuse, belittle, bully and control their partner... I see this a lot and I wonder why the partner stays.... I think traditonally men have done this a lot ???

So are we saying that Christian women, who are shacked to unbelievers or luke warm believers will have their relationships healed or broken...
sorry I have a humungous headache and I'm a bit confused!

Miche...the prayer cloth didn't work... no matter what you wanted it to be. Not even his rejection of it means there's power in it. We don't need a prayer cloth as a point of contact. We need to be filled ourselves with wonder working power of Jesus Christ....be on our knees for ourselves...Then he can really use us. Change me God...

I don't condone abuse nor enabling...But you can separate with in the home to a great great degree. I don't condone adultery and yet l've seen wives stay and the great fruit that came from weathering the storm. No one faults you for your decision. But we also must realize that God knows what's going on and hears our prayers. He has a plan and will work through those who trust in him and ask. Most aren't willing to make this sacrifice because they want a life. A good life filled with happiness and somone who appreciates them... The truth is....you already have that someone in Christ...and his grace is sufficient.

Believe me when l say l don't condone this behavior... But God is in control. He can stop a raised hand and a foul mouth. How? By taking authority..by having a seasoned prayer partner...by personal repentance...If he takes you out so be it...He takes many out but allows as many to stay for his purpose and his calling.. A prayer cloth isn't even close to being an answer and l would stay away from these things l feel have come to disgust God.

+Shine4Him+


Much love, my sister . . . I will focus on what this thread is about, not what it is not about.

If the unbeliever departs, the New Testament is clear, that a brother or sister is not
under bondage.

And a divorce based on adultery is also, not under bondage.


The message is clear, the daughter's of God [IHVH] will be united with anointed
husband's.

The end time clock of the undecided infidel (unbeliever) tilting the scale of balance,
toward the `stink in God's nostrils . . . is forcing an infidel toward a reprobate mind, to be damned.
`

Hopefully, all lukewarm will seek the anointing.

Some infidel's will become doomed and stamped under the title : reprobate



There is a close relationship to a reprobate and the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, the
only sin not forgiven.

And the topic of not treating your husband or wife with respect, while you say with
your mouth, I am faithful, not an adulterer, is not ANOINTED, IT IS LUKEWARM.


THE VEIL OF BEING LUKEWARM IS NOT AN OPTION FOR THE ANOINTED DAUGHTER OF
GOD.

And God is removing the stumbling blocks from the daugther's of God.

This thread is not about husband's needing therapy to be good husbands.


This thread is to set the daughter's of God free in the Lord's mission of end time prophecy
full-fill-ment, the time clock is ticking.


The game playing is over, for the infidel and the lukewarm. A daughter knows the lines
of demarcation of 100% faithfulness to the Father [IHVH], versus the infidel/lukewarm
husband who assist the daughter in idol worship of a man, versus being about the Father's
business.

Here is a daughter sharing how she has been set free . . .




non-forum member commentary :
Oh my gosh. How wonderful. I was told by the Holy Spirit 20 years ago. "I am the lightening quick sword of the Lord" and had no idea what that meant or how to use it as a powerful information.
I just loved reading all of this powerful information and your prayer. You are so right, there was no need for an additional or special prayer since one was already given. With that I made made my own prayer cloth with the words, In Jesus Name on a handkerchief I've had for many years and found 2 others that my grandmother made if I need to make them as well at a future time.
I am searching for a Godly man who is honoring Christ first and as a wife he will honor me first as the bride of Christ.
These are very powerful words and no wonder I haven't found anyone that I am even remotely interested in, b/c they are not true men of God and they don't really know the correct things about the glory and power of women.
This is just awesome and I will continue to honor myself by continuing to look for the man God has provided for me.
You seem to always write exactly what I need to hear regarding things that are on my mind. Thank you for your powerful instincts.

The Prayer Cloth/Banner, daughter's lift up your banner before the Lord






BANNER
ban'-er (\ENSIGN, STANDARDS\):





http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T1143

The English word "banner" is from banderia, Low Latin, meaning a banner (compare bandum, Latin, which meant first a "band," an organized military troop, and then a "flag"). It has come to mean a flag, or standard, carried at the head of a military band or body, to indicate the line of march, or the rallying point, and it is now applied, in its more extended significance, to royal, national, or ecclesiastical "banners" also. We find it applied sometimes to a streamer on the end of a lance, such as is used by the Arab sheik today. "Banner" occurs in the following significant Old Testament passages:

(1) in the singular, "Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain" (Isaiah 13:2 the King James Version); "a banner to them that fear thee" (Psalms 60:4); and

(2) in the plur., "In the name of our God we will set up our banner" (Psalms 20:5); "terrible as an army with banner" (Song of Solomon 6:4).

I agree with you 100% Miki about a prayer cloth not being the answer. The cloth has no value, it is just a thing. What has value however is the faith. I don't know why my story is similar to the one that Crownservant mentioned. It just was. Is there something to that particular act of faith???? I don't know. Maybe.

And for the record, it was not my choice to be divorced, even after my husband commited adultery I was willing to forgive him. If he repented and changed his ways.

But I believe your point Miki is to steer people away from making an idol out of a thing . I agree with you. There are some who would put more into the "act" of placing the cloth or the "cloth" itself which makes it ritualistic and and idol. Neither of these things is good.

What is good is faith.

Apart from faith you can not please the Father.

That was what the prayer cloth was to me.

an act of faith.

C7 says...




So lets look between the lines for the hidden lie...

Here it is so you won't have to look hard...



Good grief people...Do you see what's being said and done here?

You're being flattered by c7's words.

She's telling you how anointed you are and by staying with your unsaved or unrevived husband is causing you to be lukewarm.. Good grief. HEAR what your reading and don't jump on the band wagon because of flattering words and a college education.

"Set the daughters free for end times prophecy fulfillment??"

Come on..We are set free in Christ the moment we are saved!

Where was John when he wrote the Revelation?

Look folks...This is about flattery to get you to think you deserve more ...That somehow it's impossible to go forth in Christ because of your husband.. LIES...ALL LIES...He has a plan for your life and can use you in ways you never dreamed..... right from where you are.

Get your life in Christ together..

God can turn the head of King and he can turn the head of your husband.

You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

No one is saying to stay and get hammered over the head.. Sometimes women must leave.. But mostly men and women don't want to work it out because it's to hard...But is anything to hard for God?

Stop listening to the nonsense coming from this women who has proved herself to be an occultist over and over again.. Divining her way through your every word and flattering you to leave your husbands. What she does with gematria and other methodology isn't right.

Here's another subtle lie;

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So does this mean if your husband isn't anointed you aren't a daughter of God? Or does it mean you have to leave your husband and go find someone that is.... as is implied through the entire string..with touchy feely testimony about being a "lightning quick sword". If God gave someone that word do you think a lukewarm husband can stop that?! Come on people... You just depowered God with a lukewarm husband...and or an unbelieving husband..

Here's the answer for you women that are struggling in this area. Seek God for yourself. Come honestly before him. If your husband is being a jerk don't speak to him. If he's hitting you get out.
If he's an adulterer..weigh your options as the Lord speaks. Put your children first. Cover your husbands sins rather than expose them to make yourself look good.

Above all remember this. Jesus is your betrothed. There is no relationship on earth that can substitute this awesome promise. Cleave to him. Serve him in humility and let His line shine through your broken vessel...

Forget about prayer cloths...The hankie you cry into is treasured in heaven by our Lord. Stored up so to speak. Honor him with your faithfulness to your husband...The Lord loves him deeply and wants to use you in his life. Forgive him...everyday...

Miki has a point.

We must not put any "word" we think is from the Lord above the actual word of God. (Bible)

Marraige is not to make us happy. (although some are)

It is to make us HOLY!

I did have a prayer cloth experience. (but for me it was only an act of faith)

I don't know why it worked out the way it did.

Except to say that God works all things out for the good of those who love the Lord. And I know I love the Lord.


Nothing should be done in secret!

Just felt a need to point that out.

Gods light is to be placed for all to see.

I think that the prayer cloth helps to focus our prayer. It works only to help boost our faith. My experience with my ex who constantly went out on me was the Lord always asking me to go back I still think about that to this day, why was it so important for us to be together? But it was the Lord who released me, He was trying to get us back together and my room mate and his both got us to go to their church on the very same day and their church was the same and our roommates didnt know each other at all. When I saw my ex there I asked, Lord what are you doing?! But I gave in and said OK Lord not my will but yours. My ex on the other hand walked off and I and my daughter felt the Holy Spirit grieve, and then He released me from my husband. My daughter at the time was 14 and she started crying saying why did he do that mom because she felt the Holy Spirits grief also. I moved to another state and God gave me a good loving husband who was taken from me but I rejoice that he is with the Lord and I know I will see him soon!

THE PRAYER CLOTH:
AS A ‘BANNER’ [FLAG] OF FAITH, IN ACTION

By: Betty C. Clark
11-08-2008


Faith without works is dead.


James Chapter 2

14 What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? 15 And if a brother or sister be naked and want daily food: 16 And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? 17 So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. 18 But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works. Show me thy faith without works; and I will show thee, by works, my faith. 19 Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?




Trying to understand how a piece of cloth, can be associated with an action toward faith, is like trying to understand why the bleeding woman in `The New Testament`, would need to touch the hem of the garment of Christ, when it was her faith that made her whole.



However, she did leave her home, braking Leviticus laws of bodily fluid discharges, of her continuance bleeding.

And she did `seek` out, Christ. Her seeking is symbolic of spiritual `works`.


Luke 11:9

King James Bible
And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.



She did understand that all Jewish Priest held a blue string tied to the
wing of their prayer shawl and by her touching the hem of Christ garment, this action was demonstrating her faith and works.


Matthew 14:36

King James Bible
And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole.



How does a banner [flag], as a piece of cloth [material], yield any divine
intervention ?




http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T1143

(1) in the singular, "Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain" (Isaiah 13:2 the King James Version); "a banner to them that fear thee" (Psalms 60:4); and


(2) in the plur., "In the name of our God we will set up our banner" (Psalms 20:5); "terrible as an army with banner" (Song of Solomon 6:4).





How does Paul’s handkerchief’s and apron yield anointing to heal ?




Acts 19:11-12

11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.





The Banner [flag], the Prayer Cloth and the Hem of a Garment
all three speak to the daughter’s of God [IHVH], as follows :



~Parallel Excerpt~

. . . (quote) . . . We cannot afford to be bystanders in today’s world,

. . . We have to learn to speak up, to not be afraid. We have to learn to

stop crimes against humanity in our `OWN` place, . . .

in our own cities and throughout the world.

. . . If nobody protested, if nobody came, . . .

however everybody knew . . .


[ The above parallel excerpt, is taken from AJC Newspaper, under
the section called, ‘FAITH & VALUES’, 11-08-08, titled :
‘Atlantan Recalls German Jews` Terrifying Night’
http://www.thebreman.org ]


Daughter’s we know that we are appointed to demonstrate both faith and works.

We know that the husband as either an infidel or lukewarmer, is running out of time.

Please take this mission as a last chance opportunity to redirect loved ones, who may be heading toward the reprobate mind.




Romans 1:28

King James Bible
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;





Review your Banner, as a flag to denote that Prayer Cloths, touch the hem of Christ garment . . .

Are you being called to accept this mission, assignment ?

Pray for this mission to help get the `Word of the Lord`, under the
anointing of the Holy Ghost, to as many daughter’s of God [IHVH],
that you each can reach.



AN INFIDEL IS WAITING . . .
upon your faith with works, today !

And my truth is revealed, with a real name, real history, all posted for all to view, who
else can say that ?


http://biobettyculpepperclark.blogspot.com/


My life is an open book, posted for all to see.


And I did report to the moderator the accusing word's of Miki, calling me names symbolic of me being unGodly and such.

You stand as a moderator, did you agree with the name calling and personal attack ? Why did
you not speak out ?
Shekel always made it clear, debate the thread, not the person.


Miche, you said, `It is to make us HOLY!` . . . Does Miki calling me occultist, sound Holy ? Does it mean it is true, due to Miki saying the lie about me ?


However, the Lord has called a mission upon me and I will continue as directed.
These false accusations are from the Spirit of Baalam.


I will focus on the mission, I am given.

I pray for the eyes to be opened. And I agree `Gods light is to be placed for all to see ` !

Lesliefain, your words are so true. Thank you, for supporting the daughter's of God [IHVH].

Here is a story, I was sent to post. This person is NOT a forum member :





Hey Betty - this is the writing given to me to give to my husband as we began the awful and heart wretching battle of divorce. He had clamined we were never married although he stated we were, on all legal documents like tax filings and insurance policies, my wedding rings, called me his wife; all the ususal stuff associated with being married.

He had gone, what I thought, was insane due to money and posessions.

As I was having, what felt like a heart attack, one afternoon in my bedroom, since I had not yet moved out, I was told to begin writing. This was an internal voice from the Holy Spirit. Although I had no idea what was to come out of my hand with the pencil, I was given even the format to put it all into and then to give it to him. The format would be too difficult to do here but the full text is the following:

February 3, 2002

I only deliver this message -

You are being asked to show your spirit with honor
You have had time to choose which weapon you would draw
Your head or your heart

The choice has been given to you several times and the choice continues to be yours
You can either wage your war with honor and escape with a polished soul
Or you can wage a difficult war and continue to dishonor yourself and those whom you say you love

The court is held in an unseen dimension
The jury is your children and wife
The Judge is your God

Justice will be served

It is your decision as to which upcoming courtroom this justice will be served in
The First Courtroom or The Second Courtroom

The choice has always been yours
This is the final time in which you will be given choice

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Betty - he has barely acknolwedged this account of his behavior or this writing. He only wants to forgive and have me foget which I will never forget. I had to learn to forgive, which is not a natural emotion or mental capability to us humans.

I was literally thown out of this marriage with such vengence that I hardly left my bed for a year after. I came to understand I would never succeed with this man nor would I ever be the woman God needs me to be if I stayed with him. I knew he was a scoundral within 5 years of marrying him but continued to stay another 10 years since divorce would be out of the question this being my 2nd.

Who stepped in to save me? God and the Holy Spirit did. I was spiriling downward and since I would not leave on my own, I had to be viciously thrown out to 'get it'. That is when I found Christ and understanding of bible writings.

It took many important people to help me in many areas but I am whole and so happy. I am completely out of debt and have a bit of money saved. These are areas that I could never have had I stayed. Even today he has nothing and is about to file bankruptcy on 4 homes and is fully in debt.

He never repented for his sins against me or his children and although he feels he 'witnesses' to others about Christ, I believe he is a totally broken man.

I do hope this message and brief account might help other women who know deep within their hearts they are being called to a higher ground and nature but are hesitating due to fear, obligation and money issues. Remember, "All things are possible through Christ Jesus who strenthens me"

TO MODERATOR'S :



Yes,

In the ministry, `thick skin` is required.

And I was wrongfully banned and then added back into the forum. I demonstrated thick skin
at this forum, from the beginning.



And here is the topic I created to get the record straight of Miki's
accusations, that I am as she titles, a DIVINATION witch.



Per Miki: 'bring Someone To Repentance' . . ., Per crownsevenalphabet: see 2 Peter 1:3-4
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=18056&hl=



And below, is the `knowledge` topic I started, to debate Miki accusing me
of things she made up.


And as you read Shekel, posted #7, to mediate, then Miki posted #8,
due to her inability to take correction, due to Shekel not agreeing with her.


I have `dozens` of hateful, blame, shame and degrading commentary
from her under a file. These two links are not the pitch fork in the back ( they are to ugly
to send to you ), however, the following will prove her purpose to follow my topics in
a stalking style.


And I am not stupid to not think, that all the `dozens` of word's, sentences
and phrases Miki has hi-jacked on my post topics, is not my imagination, that she rejects
my calling & mission.

Other forum member's have wrote me off post to express there concern
of her obsession with my topics !



I am not expecting you, to agree or believe me.


However, let the record be made straight, I am a consumer advocate who investigates
truth or fiction in cases, I am a expert researcher. My files, with her accusations are
established in writing. Not just these two links, her purpose to try to ban me from the forum
has been spoiled and I will report to the moderator each an every time, she attacks
me personal wise. An opinion of a topic is one thing, to attack the person's walk with the Lord
is an insult to the Holy Ghost anointing. That I will not, not ignore.

Her conduct toward me has been a continuance badgering, insulting, degradation of the
anointing of the Holy Ghost operation. And I do not allow the spirit of Baalam, to defraud
the mission, from accuser's of the brethren. I operate under the anointing of exorcism
and I have the gift of discernment, in that demonic requirement.

Peace and much love, going to you, as you read and erase the truth I have presented.
Because, to present you the truth, are you thinking 'is the human opinion of me being part of the
problem, beaming in your mind' ?
Like a husband who beats the wife, she tells the police, the church tells the
wife she is part of the problem of why he beats her.

I call out the injustice in life, as a consumer advocate. Jealousy is as cruel as the grave.

And other members have posted that `Jealousy` is Miki's issue, `on the open post`,
when she chased my topic with heartless purpose.

. . . our opinions are nothing. The Father knows I was suppose to be at the forum.

And Miki has been relentless to try to remove me.



I have more prayer cloth information, soon to be added to the daughter's of God, who
need this releasement mission. I may need a course or two in writing and expression
of my thought's, my heart is 100% versed on the Lord's mission assignment !



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EXAMPLE:


I Was Ask The Question: Pursuit Of Knowledge Of Salvation ?, Luke 1-77:To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the . . .
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...=17993&st=6
Apr 4 2008, 01:19 PM
Post#7, SHEKEL
Thanks for the information crown! May the Lord help all of us to know the boundaries, for I am certain that this is what each of us sincerely desire! And let us have patience with one another to give each other space to work out their salvation with fear and trembling, as the bible says.




Apr 4 2008, 03:00 PM
POST#8, MIKI
I was only clarifying the point that opened this topic. I do not want to debate you nor do l need to prove or justify myself to you. Many have climbed and are still climbing the ladder of knowledge to obtain salvation. The fact that you know scripture and have an educated knowledge base does not negate the fact that your tool of choice is divination. It makes all your knowledge worthless because you persist in this point. You remind me of a peacock who suddenly displays his feathers when challenged. I still see a hand behind your back in the midst of the display.

If l'm difficult it is for good reason. l'm not easily swayed on this subject. Especially when l see others hopping aboard. Sorry Shekel if l don't live up to your expectations concerning the topic. l just feel compelled to speak. If l'm wrong about what l see as divination.. there's not a counterbalance to prove it. I will consider arguments but l've been at this for a long time and can recognize techniques that have the same ear mark. There's not much else to say on the topic.

ALREADY A AFFIRMATION, TURNS INTO A CONFIRMATION . . .


Last night, I was speaking to a `infidel` husband . . .


Who told me a prayer cloth was placed yesterday, October 27th, 2008 . . . in his hands,
by a stranger calling herself : JESSE


The husband shared the following office work story . . . of a prayer cloth, being placed in his
hands :

First, let us consider why the woman that delivered the anointed prayer cloth, was named
Jesse :

http://www.bible-history.com/isbe/R/ROOT+OF+JESSE/


ROOT OF JESSE

(shoresh yishay (Isa 11:10); rhiza tou Iessai (Rom 15:12)): The Hebrew and Greek words are practically the same in meaning. "Root" means descendant, branch of the family or stock. The Messianic king was to be of the family of Jesse the father of David. In Rom 15:12 Paul quotes the Septuagint of Isa 11:10. Jesus is a branch or descendant of the family of Jesse, as well as of David.
See also DAVID, ROOT OF.




http://www.stkate.edu/gallery/shows_06_wom..._root_jesse.jpg

. . . The Prayer Cloth Placed in the Infidel Husband's Hand (the story) :


The husband told about being at work, seeing a woman that does not come to the office often.
This woman is connected to another worker, performs work sub-contract duties on a temporary
fill-in basis.

He described that no matter what part of the office building he walked into, there was
Jesse.

And he almost stumbled upon her, at his every turn.

Then as he decided, in his mind, she (Jesse) must want to talk to me ?

And as the husband, started out the door to go to the service vehicle he drives, this is
when Jesse stepped into his path, to stop him from leaving.

The husband said, 'Here stood a 90 pound little woman, who is suppose to have three
children, who is in her late 20's, staring up at me' !

And she told the husband, 'Hold out your hand' !

And he did.

Then she placed a piece of material in his hand, he said, her instructions were, " This
is a prayer cloth, you are suppose to have this ".

He thanked her.

They departed.

In the memory, of the husband . . . he started to discuss with me (C7A) how 20 plus years
ago, a woman was in a Holy Ghost filled Revival at church, when the following prayer cloth
story happened :

. . . the ole' 70 year old Pentecostal Preacher, gave the woman an oil anointed prayer cloth.

And this was the ole' preacher's instructions :

" Sister, place this prayer cloth inside the pillow case of your infidel husband, God [IHVH}
will deliver him to you saved and sanctified or remove him from you " !

And the end results, in two weeks . . . the infidel was removed from the sister, as this
infidel kid-napped and held knives on the sister, until the angelic forces came to release
her from being murdered.

. . . By Jesse, delivering the prayer cloth, the infidel husband waited for my (C7A) commentary.

I told him, "Well, the parallel may be your salvation or removal, in regard to the daughter of God {IHVH} who has been praying for an anointed husband" ?

And then the husband, was silent.

We concluded with the infidel husband saying, "I have placed the prayer cloth, from Jesse,
inside my vehicle glove box, to keep from loosing it".

. . . ( the last section of the conversation, is confidential, however, God [IHVH} is working
miracles in these matters through His divine timing and purpose )

This post has been edited by crownsevenalphabet: Today, 10:57 AM

As God directs and fills my heart to do His will...my intercessions are prophetic
re enactments...and bear fruit, because I trust Him and He is worthy. The Bible is full of instances of God giving a directive and the man or woman of God follows after God without concern with what other's think.

Fear of man is a demonic oppression and it's counterpart is the accuser of the
brethren. Better to fear God and listen to the ministry of the Spirit of God that
hoovers over the Word of God to do it and to make the word alive and active in
our lives, than to miss God for the gossip and jealousy of another.

God forgives our divorces as He forgives our other nature...to possess things, and
control people. He gave us His Son for the forgiveness of our sins, and is fully able to lead us out of bondage of ANY nature, and forgive our mistakes. We have to
recognize our part in breaking fellowship and relationship, ask Him to forgive us,
and give that one up on the altar of God's mercy.

God is merciful, Father.

For everyone;
Past experiences and "what's going on now" should be handled with care. And Be Careful!!! See if you understand this;

DO NOT JUDGE - MATT. 7:1-5

“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and; behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” KJV

Being of this world and in the flesh, I have these same experiences. I have seen many. The very best I can do is Intercessory Prayer. In other words, hold your Brother or Sister up. Pray for them.

Hope all understand.

Amen Amen! I am seeing way too much judging going on not only in this forum but many other areas as well. And judgement can be wonderful actually; see here:
Psalm 7:8
The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me.
Psalm 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Psalm 9:8
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.
Psalm 10:18
To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.

I think too many people are getting deceived into believing that they should take the 10 commandments out of their pocket and slam them in the face of their brother or sister who so are believers and also faithful followers of The Lamb!! Something is terribly wrong with this scenerio!!

Anyway...thank you for your words of wisdom from the Holy Lamb of Yahweh

This is not a judgment on anyone........

I agree with signet, BillD, and Selah...I take my stand in intercessory prayer for the resolution to these attacks I see that are possibly based on one's desire to protect others from what one perceives as folly...HOWEVER, please!! Please trust GOD to oversee His people and do not judge one another. I see nothing wrong with C7's posting what she has - prayer cloths are biblical "point of faith" things, but even C7 said it is not the cloth but it is the Word that is anointed, and she clearly has a direction from the Lord to post what she has...and it obviously is not for everyone...but to those who are meant to receive it. And it is an encouragement IF the person receives it to step out in faith to trust God to do HIS WILL in the matter.

I read what Miki wrote, and there are some good points there too, but what I don't agree with is the obvious singling out of C7 as occult. Hey, this forum IS Christian, and though there may be many faults we could find with many people here, hey, welcome to reality! There are many kinds of people in the body of Christ, and He is the judge of all. The common denominator? We've made Christ our Savior and Lord and rally under the banner of His Love. This forum was founded by Shekel, and though I don't claim to know all that much about the Bible Wheel, or Bible Codes, what I have read has blessed me...and yet many would say the Gematria and the other approaches even he uses is considered by "some" to be bordering on the occult - which also is NOT TRUE.

He has set this forum up to be operating in the Spirit of Liberty I believe, and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty. Right? Nothing wrong with posting one's opinions, contrary or not - However, I think the attacks on C7, not only on this thread but many others she has posted, even before I discovered this forum, have been excessive and sometimes mean spirited. I know C7 has been upset and hurt by this last derail on her attempt to do what the Lord has compelled her to do in presenting what He has laid on her heart. She is on here all the time trying to help others in many topics apart from the norm, and she always gives the glory to God, and always backs up what she presents with scripture. So my heart feels the hurt and frustration she must feel - and I see it in her words here tonight.

There, I had my say. Please, just pray, and love one another? Please, don't anyone judge... I saw a thread on discernment vs judgment today started by cizz that I thought was very good and worth a read. I was contemplating it when I noticed the developments on this thread tonight as I have been following it.

I'll end with this thought...if you were in the same position as C7, would you like to be treated like this? Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you. I am getting to hate the word "judge"... I really am.

In Christ
zeetz

Zeetz

A little story and I'll make it brief:

I recently had a run in with some one on another forum; I was sharing the Word of God, or according to her and others "Bible Thumping" anyway...the lady went to my myspace and looked through my pictures and came back and told me I was into divination. I was like WHAT??? She exposed to everyone in that forum (which was a newspaper forum) that I had a tarot card in my pictures and she even copied the picture I had in that post of hers...WELL as you can imagine; I was stricken over this, because for one, I honest to God did not know it was a tarot card and two I certainly am not into that stuff.

Point is this; it was actually HER exposing her own self that she even knew what it was and applied it to the picture. No one else saw that; but I did because the Word of God is in me and little things like that that people place power into are nothing; it is the person and what they are doing with the 'item' and it is the heart for which we are righteously judged-we are judged unrighteously by others by our outward appearances and outward works..and that is because they do not know Jesus Christ.

Some people say/think wearing a cross is wrong; some people disagree. I used to wear a star of David necklace because of my love for the Israelite/Hebrew people, but so many people said it was the mark of the beast I threw it in the trash So many people are scared of things, yet man was given dominion in the earth and also we as followers of the Lamb were given authority to tread over scorpions and serpents.

In other words...an item cannot harm you unless you allow it to and same goes for tangible items such as the prayer cloth, if your faith is weak, then I would not suggest having one..but if it is beneficial to your faith and love in Yahshua, then let it be between He and thee

This is for C7's work:
Matthew 26:10
When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.

I agree tha tthe Prayer cloth is an act of faith...for share, but I keep these kinds of things out of the eyes of those that might behave wrongly with it, or turn on me for it. I have used a prayer cloth, and even covered my head, but that was when G-d told me to do it, not man. I dont advertise that I do it as well. G-d shows these kinds of things in the word to show not that is is the only way of showing faith, but it was just one of many ways to G-ds powered acted out on the lives of those. An accound of what faith does, not of what putting a peace of cloth over ones head does, for there are many diffrent religons that do this, but that isnt counted as righouseness to them, it is that acting-out or action with faith! I have found one church here where I am that makes their women cover themselves, and wear dresses, and not cut there hair,, being a holyness church, they than set in judement of those around them for not doing all of what they do. I than have seen women that are on the other side trying to turn what they are doing into sin as well. As if covering ones head is sin.....those things driving those to set in judgement of each other. What a mass! I have seen that I do this in privet, pray with G-d, I to wear it as a way to show off, but I am not in hiding either, others know what I feel about it. I dont condem others, I just feel that others are being told By G-d to do it as of yet, or they arent being called to do it at all, that is find with me.

Bottem line, it is G-ds job to convict others, not ours, our job is to love them!

Amen!

No, I did not say , nor do I think that it is Holy for one believer in Christ Jesus to call another believer names.

I agree only that we are to place the word of God above all others.

I want the name calling to stop.

It isn't neccesary.

The bible says that the World will know that we are of God by the way we treat one another. (I think that says it all)

Miki, I know your heart is to protect the babes in Christ from being swayed into idol worship and things like that. I also know you are very sensitive to it. You can disagree with crownservant, but please do so respectfully. Do not call names or infer that she is practicing divination.

We all must live together in peace.

You know, I have not shared a whole lot of my testimony on this forum.

It usually is something I only share as God leads when I am speaking one on one with someone.

Had I known that by me sharing that it would turn into a contentious debate, I would have never shared at all.

I am asking you both, Betty, and Miki to refrain from the harsh words.

Refrain from using remarks implying anything that could be taken hurtful.

It is not a good witness.

Pray for one another.

Please.

The prophecy concerning,
"The Banner of the Cross!"
http://www.bible-codes.org/mene-tekel-pole...le-prophecy.htm


Dear Daughter's, above is a Bible code about the `banner of the Cross.


excerpt:
The banner-pole is a common metaphor in the bible:

"Make sharp the arrows; hold firm the shields: Jehovah hath stirred up the spirit of the kings of the Medes; because his purpose is against Babylon, to destroy it: for it is the vengeance of Jehovah, the vengeance of his temple.
Set up a standard (banner pole) against the walls of Babylon," (Jer. 51:11-12a, ASV)



When I read this morning, the banner-pole being set up against the

walls of Babylon, it reminded me of the message the Lord gave me

yesterday, 11-08-08, about the Prayer Cloth/Banner [flag] . . . being

set up against the walls of the `infidel`, for the fence protection {Cheth}

toward the daughter's of God.

How alike, are `the Babylon` and `the infidel` ?

Blessings . . . in each readers day, the mission is unfolding, for those

called unto it ! Amen !



Praise His Holy Name [IHVH]



Below, I have been pressed to re-post the message.







THE PRAYER CLOTH:
AS A ‘BANNER’ [FLAG] OF FAITH, IN ACTION

By: Betty C. Clark
11-08-2008


Faith without works is dead.


James Chapter 2

14 What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? 15 And if a brother or sister be naked and want daily food: 16 And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? 17 So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. 18 But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works. Show me thy faith without works; and I will show thee, by works, my faith. 19 Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?




Trying to understand how a piece of cloth, can be associated with an action toward faith, is like trying to understand why the bleeding women in `The New Testament`, would need to touch the hem of the garment of Christ, when it was her faith that made her whole.



However, she did leave her home, braking Leviticus laws of bodily fluid discharges, of her continuance bleeding.

And she did `seek` out, Christ. Her seeking is symbolic of spiritual `works`.


Luke 11:9

King James Bible
And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.



She did understand that all Jewish Priest held a blue string tied to the
wing of their prayer shawl and by her touching the hem of Christ garment, this action was demonstrating her faith and works.


Matthew 14:36

King James Bible
And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole.



How does a banner [flag], as a piece of cloth [material], yield any divine
intervention ?




http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T1143

(1) in the singular, "Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain" (Isaiah 13:2 the King James Version); "a banner to them that fear thee" (Psalms 60:4); and


(2) in the plur., "In the name of our God we will set up our banner" (Psalms 20:5); "terrible as an army with banner" (Song of Solomon 6:4).





How does Paul’s handkerchief’s and apron yield anointing to heal ?




Acts 19:11-12

11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.





The Banner [flag], the Prayer Cloth and the Hem of a Garment
all three speak to the daughter’s of God [IHVH], as follows :



~Parallel Excerpt~

. . . (quote) . . . We cannot afford to be bystanders in today’s world,

. . . We have to learn to speak up, to not be afraid. We have to learn to

stop crimes against humanity in our `OWN` place, . . .

in our own cities and throughout the world.

. . . If nobody protested, if nobody came, . . .

however everybody knew . . .


[ The above parallel excerpt, is taken from AJC Newspaper, under
the section called, ‘FAITH & VALUES’, 11-08-08, titled :
‘Atlantan Recalls German Jews` Terrifying Night’
http://www.thebreman.org ]


Daughter’s we know that we are appointed to demonstrate both faith and works.

We know that the husband as either an infidel or lukewarmer, is running out of time.

Please take this mission as a last chance opportunity to redirect loved ones, who may be heading toward the reprobate mind.




Romans 1:28

King James Bible
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;





Review your Banner, as a flag to denote that Prayer Cloths, touch the hem of Christ garment . . .

Are you being called to accept this mission, assignment ?

Pray for this mission to help get the `Word of the Lord`, under the
anointing of the Holy Ghost, to as many daughter’s of God [IHVH],
that you each can reach.



AN INFIDEL IS WAITING . . .
upon your faith with works, today !

Does this mean something more? (symbolically?)
"She did understand that all Jewish Priests held a blue string tied to the
wing of their prayer shawl and by her touching the hem of Christ garment, this action was demonstrating her faith and works."

Good point, I think you are right here!

I won't retract. I will stand by what l know. c7 uses methods of divination in her work.

I've never said she was a witch..

If people do or say something so contrary to scripture (and divination is) then we must speak out. You can say you have any imagined anointing. You can glorify your career..It doesn't negate the fact that you use divination in your work and your so called profiling methods. You accused me of being possessed for speaking out against this. The devil has used the "oh your just jealous" tactic before with me..sorry it won't work..I'm satisfied with what the Lord has given me and l don't covet what's in others...Some women are impressed by knowledge and flattery is appealing.

I'm here to speak up. I want God to remember that l spoke up.

Did l say prayer cloths weren't used in the Bible...NO. What did l say?

I said "Say NO to MAIL ORDER prayer cloths and the selling of this idea.

Miche...you and l were both grasping at straws at one time... It's not what God wants us to focus on. He wants us to focus on him as our husband and how to have right relationship with him in order to set our husbands free.

Have l followed c-7 around?... Go count how many posts she's had since l last spoke in this manner to her. I said at that time l wasn't stalking her which she falsely accused me of...but that l would speak if necessary..just like she gets to. It's called freedom of speech. If she's allowed to sell her ideas as legitimate to this forum l have all the same freedoms to oppose them.

Miche...I'm surprised you would be so quick to accuse me of name calling. If someone lies...what are they? I have no doubt c7 believes what she is doing is right. It's not. It's divination. I stand by what l said. I will continue to oppose it from time to time. I won't stalk her..I haven't stalked her as she accuses me.. But l will do what am called to do. Speak the truth. In love you want to add...Well it is love. It's just tough love. Occultist Lawyer Doctor.. What does Occult mean? Simple. It means hidden.

I don't care if you gossip about me behind my back which has been going on since the beginning of the forum. I don't need to garner support in this way. It's wrong to gossip c-7. I'm sorry you need to gain in this way. I know a lot of you probably think shekel and l are buddy buddy..If you've read this forum long enough you know we disagree about a number of things. He's taught me a couple of really life changing things. It's good. But because shekel and the moderators agree with this work is not a mandate for me. I will stand for what l know and will proclaim it.

Now lets get back to the dubious things that brought me to this thread and all the convoluted ideas about how to get your husband set free..

NOT by a MAIL ORDER prayer cloth... (free or not)

Do you know Paul? Great. Perhaps you have an annointed Pastor ...He's spilled his tears into his hankerchief on behalf of your loved one and gives it to you to wipe your tears.. My goodness. I don't know if God will use that treasure or not. We know it's stored up in heaven.

But we need to get this idea of generic prayer cloths out of our minds...Good grief. Especially if they come through from someone we know nothing about. So now lets look at some of the supporing evidence from my earlier post that seems to have become lost.


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C7 says...






So lets look between the lines for the hidden lie...

Here it is so you won't have to look hard...






Good grief people...Do you see what's being said and done here?

You're being flattered by c7's words.

She's telling you how anointed you are and by staying with your unsaved or unrevived husband is causing you to be lukewarm.. Good grief. HEAR what your reading and don't jump on the band wagon because of flattering words and a college education.

"Set the daughters free for end times prophecy fulfillment??"

Come on..We are set free in Christ the moment we are saved!

Where was John when he wrote the Revelation?

Look folks...This is about flattery to get you to think you deserve more ...That some how it's impossible to go forth in Christ because of your husband.. LIES...ALL LIES...He has a plan for your life and can use you in ways you never dreamed..... right from where you are.

Get your life in Christ together..

God can turn the head of King and he can turn the head of your husband.

You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

No one is saying to stay and get hammered over the head.. Sometimes women must leave.. But mostly men and women don't want to work it out because it's to hard...But is anything to hard for God?

Stop listening to the nonsense coming from this women who has proved herself to be an occultist over and over again.. Divining her way through your every word and flattering you to leave your husbands. What she does with gematria and other methodology isn't right.

Here's another subtle lie;



.

So does this mean if your husband isn't anointed you aren't a daughter of God? Or does it mean you have to leave your husband and go find someone that is.... as is implied through the entire string..with touchy feely testimony about being a "lightning quick sword". If God gave someone that word do you think a lukewarm husband can stop it?! Come on people... You just depowered God with a lukewarm husband...and or an unbelieving husband..

Here's the answer for you women that are struggling in this area. Seek God for yourself. Come honestly before him. If your husband is being a jerk don't speak to him. If he's hitting you get out.
If he's an adulterer..weigh your options as the Lord speaks. Put your children first. Cover your husbands sins rather than expose them to make yourself look good.

Above all remember this. Jesus is your betrothed. There is no relationship on earth that can substitute this awesome promise. Cleave to him. Serve him in humility and let His line shine through your broken vessel...

Forget about prayer cloths...The hankie you cry into is treasured in heaven by our Lord. stored up so to speak. Honor him with your faithfulness to your husband...The Lord loves him deeply and wants to use you in his life. Forgive him...everyday...

This post has been edited by Miki: Yesterday, 02:03 PM

Sisters, it is okay to have a difference of opinion, but we can phrase it without making it personal (I learned that myself recently, so I thought I would apply it here)...

Is it not possible to love each other, yet we can address each others words and behavior, not as punishment, but as encouragement?
Jesus was perfect at that, even the Pharisees were unable to say that Jesus words were personal attacks.

It pleases God when we address each other in wisdom...

I agree whole-heartedly with Miche's post. I love Miki and Crown7alphabet both, I see only the Christ in both. We should not be accusers of the brethren but see only the Christ. If someone posts an idea that you feel is not biblical, then gently reprove in love. For if you have not love, you have nothing.

This is slander...


"Divining her way through your every word and flattering you to leave your husbands. What she does with gematria and other methodology isn't right." -Miki


The Lord rebuke you.

CHRIST, OUR HIGH PRIEST, TOUCHING THE HEM OF HIS GARMENT,
PARALLEL'S THE `BANNER` IN THE WILDERNESS . . .

by : Betty C. Clark
Sunday, 11-09-08


The bleeding woman story, in the New Testament, believed she should touch the hem of the garment of Christ . . .


Matthew 14:36


King James Bible
And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole.


WHAT WAS THIS BELIEF BASED UPON ?

ANSWER :

The blue string attached to the wing of the Priest garment [shawl],
was a Hebrew custom. To understand this custom of garment attire,
please review the following study :



http://www.messianic-torah-truth-seeker.or...en-garments.jpg


The New Testament clearly defines Christ wearing a prayer shawl
with the traditional blue tassel (cord/string) attached to the wing
of the hem of the garment.





http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bd/h/36

Hem of Garment

An important part of an Israelite’s dress, owing to the regulation of Num. 15: 38-39. It was really a tassel at each “wing” or corner of the tallith or mantle (Matt. 14: 36). The law required that it should be bound with a thread of blue, the color of heaven. The strict Jews to this day wear these tassels, though they are usually concealed. The Pharisees made them conspicuously large (Matt. 23: 5). It would be the tassel that hung over the shoulder at the back that the woman with the issue of blood came and touched (Luke 8: 44; also Ex. 28: 33-34).



The Leviticus Law of the Breastplate of Judgment and all the High Priest garment requirements, carry forth the theme of the blue cord attached to the wing of Jesus’ prayer shawl.



Without Jewish study of the Old Testament High Priest garment requirements, the reader will not understand why the bleeding woman in the New Testament, was compelled to touch the hem of Christ garment.




The Prayer Shawl is a symbolic garment [cloth] of Light, the hem of the Priest is a symbolic garment of Light, the handkerchief’s and apron’s of Paul were garments of Light.

The Prayer Cloth is symbolic of a garment of Light.


Psalm 104:2
Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:


The understanding of a garment of Light, is why the High Priest was under the strict atonement rules in clothing attire.



How does the Biblical banner, apply to the prayer cloth ?


B A N N E R :

The word `banner` means, flag.


http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T1143

The English word "banner" is from banderia, Low Latin, meaning a banner (compare bandum, Latin, which meant first a "band," an organized military troop, and then a "flag"). It has come to mean a flag, or standard, carried at the head of a military band or body, to indicate the line of march, or the rallying point, and it is now applied, in its more extended significance, to royal, national, or ecclesiastical "banners" also.

(1) in the singular, "Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain" (Isaiah 13:2 the King James Version); "a banner to them that fear thee" (Psalms 60:4); and

(2) in the plur., "In the name of our God we will set up our banner" (Psalms 20:5); "terrible as an army with banner" (Song of Solomon 6:4).



A flag is made from cloth.

When the American Flag is flying, we salute it. When we see Babylon and the spirit of Balaam, burning the American Flag, we are moved in our soul to reject this image of defamation of the flag [banner], correct ?






However, burning of the flag [banner] does not destroy our American patriotically inspired memories. Praise God [IHVH] !








The cloth of a banner [flag], is indeed a cloth with material value and a prayer cloth is a cloth with material value !

The anointing of the hem of Christ garment, is a prayer
shawl clothing item, a cloth of material value.

The handkerchief’s and apron’s of Paul are clothing
items, with material value.


Acts 19:11-12
11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.


The faith the bleeding woman pursued to seek out Christ, to touch the hem of His garment, is what healed her, per Christ statement as follows :


Mark 5:34
34And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.



MOSES’ BANNER POLE :


Numbers 21:8
8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.


Just as Moses raised the banner pole in the wilderness, to represent
Christ being raised on the pole [tree] of crucifixion, the tree Christ
died on is a material tree.


Galatians 3:13-14
13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.



The garment called, `a robe`, that the Roman’s placed on Christ was
a material cloth item.

The burial Shroud of Christ, was a garment of material.

However, when we believe in Christ resurrection from the banner (flag pole), the tree of crucifixion is not our focus. We elevate our thinking from the material world, into the realm of faith.







Our focus is Christ our Messiah, resurrected as the Lord of Lord’s, The Son of God [IHVH], the `LOGOS`, `the WORD` made flesh.

Hebrews 4:14
Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.


Hebrews 7:24
but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood.


Hebrew 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.


The prayer cloth is a piece of cloth . . . the material realm.

The example of faith with works, of the bleeding woman, elevates her
action of touching the hem of Christ garment, becoming an example of the manifested healing.

The clothing material of the hem of the garment, was not the objective of the bleeding woman.

THE OBJECTIVE WAS AN ACT OF FAITH.

The tangible becoming intangible.

Amen !

The laying on of hands, starts with a tangible material action, by laying the hands on the sick, ending with intangible results of faith, not visible, not tangible.


Seek The Understanding Of The Apostolic Age, message of tangible/intangible : HOLY GHOST GIFTS<