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PetriFB
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This writing deal with Harry Potter books, last days apostasy, witchcraft, evil spirits deception and God's salvation in Jesus Christ.

In this writing are handled very serious issues. You who care about your neighbours, your kids, your parents, forward this writing as warning and as a message that they can be saved in Jesus Christ!
WhiteKnight
I read in a interview that the author is a Christian and believe in God?.

Even though most of the protested in buying the book. It is No.1 selling book worldwide. I don't think this generation wants to believe in True Lord, His Words and most of them don't believe Evil exist such has satan, demons and other unholy alliance.
PetriFB
QUOTE (WhiteKnight @ Oct 28 2008, 03:18 PM) *
I read in a interview that the author is a Christian and believe in God?.

Even though most of the protested in buying the book. It is No.1 selling book worldwide. I don't think this generation wants to believe in True Lord, His Words and most of them don't believe Evil exist such has satan, demons and other unholy alliance.


Yes, she has said. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism?

I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible.
PetriFB
J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible. Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books.
wernotalone
QUOTE (WhiteKnight @ Oct 28 2008, 02:18 PM) *
I read in a interview that the author is a Christian and believe in God?.

Even though most of the protested in buying the book. It is No.1 selling book worldwide. I don't think this generation wants to believe in True Lord, His Words and most of them don't believe Evil exist such has satan, demons and other unholy alliance.


That is the TRUTH WhiteKnight, it's a fascination that they get deeper and deeper into like playing with fire...and guess who is luring them into the depths of darkness....we all know who the LIAR of all lies and deceiver.

People take these things too lightly...it's only when they get in over their head that they realize it and hopefully they CRY OUT TO JESUS.

pray for them.


so remember that what the Devil means for evil, GOD IS BIGGER and he turns it around for his own good.

Blessings in the name of Jesus to you.
happy2Bfree
Petrie....

You are very right in your thoughts about this. The Harry Potter books are not good.

My own girls never were allowed to read them and they did not have any real desire to either.

The Lord would not like what is in those books...even if it is only imagining.

We are to control our imaginations. Remember....the Lord said that if we even think it in our minds...it is like we have already done it.

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PetriFB
QUOTE (Chloé @ Oct 30 2008, 04:35 AM) *
Petrie....

You are very right in your thoughts about this. The Harry Potter books are not good.

My own girls never were allowed to read them and they did not have any real desire to either.

The Lord would not like what is in those books...even if it is only imagining.

We are to control our imaginations. Remember....the Lord said that if we even think it in our minds...it is like we have already done it.

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Amen, may God bless you!
Descendant_of_Darkness
I can't believe that everyone is making such a fuss over the Harry Potter books! For heaven's sake! They're FANTASY books! They don't put emphasis on Occultism or Wicca or any form of REAL witchcraft. J. K. Rowling left religion almost COMPLETELY out of her books! The closest she got to putting religion in her stories was in the seventh book (which had a HUGE underlying Christian message). Admittedly, there were some disturbing ALMOST occultic acts performed in the fourth book, but these actions were performed by a villain. Children are usually smart enough to know that you do not want to imitate the bad guy.

As for the magic, again, it is pure fantasy magic. The magic in Harry Potter is no different than the magic in the Lord of the Rings. I believe that anyone who says otherwise is on a "witch-hunt" (no pun intended).

And to address a particular post:
QUOTE (PetriFB)
J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible.


...okay. "She believes that she believes, but she doesn't actually believe"??? I'm sorry, but this doesn't really make sense. and your explanation is both unsatisfactory and incorrect:

QUOTE (PetriFB)
Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books.


Would you tell that to J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis? Don't you think that Tolkien said that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Wouldn't you say that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Harry Potter uses his powers for good just like Gandalf. How is Harry's magic any different?
PetriFB
QUOTE (Descendant_of_Darkness @ Nov 3 2008, 04:24 AM) *
I can't believe that everyone is making such a fuss over the Harry Potter books! For heaven's sake! They're FANTASY books! They don't put emphasis on Occultism or Wicca or any form of REAL witchcraft. J. K. Rowling left religion almost COMPLETELY out of her books! The closest she got to putting religion in her stories was in the seventh book (which had a HUGE underlying Christian message). Admittedly, there were some disturbing ALMOST occultic acts performed in the fourth book, but these actions were performed by a villain. Children are usually smart enough to know that you do not want to imitate the bad guy.

As for the magic, again, it is pure fantasy magic. The magic in Harry Potter is no different than the magic in the Lord of the Rings. I believe that anyone who says otherwise is on a "witch-hunt" (no pun intended).

And to address a particular post:
QUOTE (PetriFB)
J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible.


...okay. "She believes that she believes, but she doesn't actually believe"??? I'm sorry, but this doesn't really make sense. and your explanation is both unsatisfactory and incorrect:

QUOTE (PetriFB)
Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books.


Would you tell that to J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis? Don't you think that Tolkien said that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Wouldn't you say that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Harry Potter uses his powers for good just like Gandalf. How is Harry's magic any different?



One can believe to God, but not as is written in the word of God.

All books written by Christians or not are evil if they promote witchcraft and say that it is good.

Levite-7
QUOTE (Descendant_of_Darkness @ Nov 2 2008, 08:24 PM) *
I can't believe that everyone is making such a fuss over the Harry Potter books! For heaven's sake! They're FANTASY books! They don't put emphasis on Occultism or Wicca or any form of REAL witchcraft. J. K. Rowling left religion almost COMPLETELY out of her books! The closest she got to putting religion in her stories was in the seventh book (which had a HUGE underlying Christian message). Admittedly, there were some disturbing ALMOST occultic acts performed in the fourth book, but these actions were performed by a villain. Children are usually smart enough to know that you do not want to imitate the bad guy.

As for the magic, again, it is pure fantasy magic. The magic in Harry Potter is no different than the magic in the Lord of the Rings. I believe that anyone who says otherwise is on a "witch-hunt" (no pun intended).

And to address a particular post:
QUOTE (PetriFB)
J.K. Rowling has said that she is a Christian. Why Christian who believe in God write books, which emphasize witchcraft and sorcery and occultism? I think that she thinks that she believes, but actually she doesn't believe as it has been written in the Bible.


...okay. "She believes that she believes, but she doesn't actually believe"??? I'm sorry, but this doesn't really make sense. and your explanation is both unsatisfactory and incorrect:

QUOTE (PetriFB)
Because he/she who really believe to God and the Bible don't write a book saying that there is good and bad witches, because the Bible say that all witches are evil. J.K. Rowling says in her books that Harry's witchcraft is good and this one statement alone is enough to prove that Harry Potter books are evil. Of course there is also much more evil in those books.


Would you tell that to J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S. Lewis? Don't you think that Tolkien said that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Wouldn't you say that Gandalf's witchcraft was good? Harry Potter uses his powers for good just like Gandalf. How is Harry's magic any different?

hi~

all witchcraft (magic, occultism, etc.) is rebellion & sin against the Word of God, an abomination in the sight of the LORD God in heaven, whether it be written to appear as good - the whole of it is not good, for it builds upon the doctrine of good & evil that has brought Man to sin since the days of Eden by the serpent that supports it. to be their own gods without the LORD is the core of anything occult. more-so, that which learns the occult walks a dangerous fine-line since it leads to the fallen angels & the devil himself. the LORD has made it quite clear that this is not permitted, even so much as dabbling in the "innocent" entertainment that many will continue to justify that it's "ok" - but what does the LORD command?

the Word of the LORD is true & is everlasting ~ it is written in Deuteronomy 18:10 - 13 (akjv), 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or necromancer. 12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. 13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

from this criteria, Harry Potter transgresses the commandment of the LORD, the very writings from that author transgress the commandment of the LORD, the Lord of the Rings is transgression as well as the continued existence of Gandalf - of a truth, all these are sin to they that claim to side with the LORD & yet find enjoyment in fables depicting "mystic" powers. occultists pride themselves in having power, unknowing that they are calling upon forces that are cast down & exiled from heaven. the doctrine of good & evil is evil in finality, & is something that our LORD has warned strongly against & shall burn away with fiery indignation at the last day.

~levite-7
Descendant_of_Darkness
O_o .... wow.... I've never heard of a Christian calling Gandalf a transgression. Well, first time for everything, I guess. However, I am curious, Levite-7, as to whether or not you've seen or read the Lord of the Rings series. You know that it has a MAJOR Christian message, right?

I have another question for you and PetrieFB: according to your opinions, where should we draw the line? Should Christian parents forbid their children from watching movies like Cinderella and the Wizard of Oz because they portray magic in a positive light?
Levite-7
QUOTE (Descendant_of_Darkness @ Nov 3 2008, 08:12 PM) *
O_o .... wow.... I've never heard of a Christian calling Gandalf a transgression. Well, first time for everything, I guess. However, I am curious, Levite-7, as to whether or not you've seen or read the Lord of the Rings series. You know that it has a MAJOR Christian message, right?

I have another question for you and PetrieFB: according to your opinions, where should we draw the line? Should Christian parents forbid their children from watching movies like Cinderella and the Wizard of Oz because they portray magic in a positive light?

hi~

a major Christian message.......ask yourself this ~ did anyone at any time in any of the trilogy give honor & glory to the LORD God of Israel? did anyone at any time in any of the trilogy give honor & glory to the LORD's Christ for the deliverence of the evil that threatened the land? did anyone at any time in any of the whole of Tolkien's work even mention the LORD God of Israel as the sole creator of Middle Earth? the answer is no & that is the sum of the matter ~ something that is like something isn't exactly that something, is it? mellow.gif

a snare is anything that pulls something away from something else & an idol is anything that stands in between Man & the LORD in heaven that created all things. by this measure, we can walk forward & be aware of what tempts to sin & what does not. of a truth, i shall not give an opinion, only that which is founded upon the foundation of scripture - ask yourself, how did Moses react to the golden calf & what did he do to the calf that the children of Israel lusted after & played & danced around it in worship? that which tempts to sin is best cast away the exact same way as Moses did. here's another, what happened to the children of Israel during Joshua's time when a single individual coveted an cursed thing & brought it & hid it in the congregation of Israel? such a small, insignificant cursed thing it was, but even if it was as small as a penny would not be enough to let the children of Israel get away with that act of transgression, for the LORD sees all - even to that which is hidden. no, Wizard of Oz speaks of "good" witches when in truth, there is no good witch. in Cinderella there is the idea of a fairy "god" mother when in truth, there is one God & like unto Him there is no other. one is a snare, the second is blasphemy in accord to the Word of the most Holy.

if anything contradicts the Word of God (Authorized King James Version for the english speaking nations), that should be a clear warning to abstain & keep away from it. what matters most in your life, in my life & the lives of they which hear the precious words of our Shepherd - is to cast away the mark of the beast from us & to prepare for the great harvest. to inherit the Kingdom of God & stand before the LORD's face will require the death of all sin within each of us.

~levite-7
PetriFB
QUOTE (Levite-7 @ Nov 4 2008, 04:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Descendant_of_Darkness @ Nov 3 2008, 08:12 PM) *
O_o .... wow.... I've never heard of a Christian calling Gandalf a transgression. Well, first time for everything, I guess. However, I am curious, Levite-7, as to whether or not you've seen or read the Lord of the Rings series. You know that it has a MAJOR Christian message, right?

I have another question for you and PetrieFB: according to your opinions, where should we draw the line? Should Christian parents forbid their children from watching movies like Cinderella and the Wizard of Oz because they portray magic in a positive light?

hi~

a major Christian message.......ask yourself this ~ did anyone at any time in any of the trilogy give honor & glory to the LORD God of Israel? did anyone at any time in any of the trilogy give honor & glory to the LORD's Christ for the deliverence of the evil that threatened the land? did anyone at any time in any of the whole of Tolkien's work even mention the LORD God of Israel as the sole creator of Middle Earth? the answer is no & that is the sum of the matter ~ something that is like something isn't exactly that something, is it? mellow.gif

a snare is anything that pulls something away from something else & an idol is anything that stands in between Man & the LORD in heaven that created all things. by this measure, we can walk forward & be aware of what tempts to sin & what does not. of a truth, i shall not give an opinion, only that which is founded upon the foundation of scripture - ask yourself, how did Moses react to the golden calf & what did he do to the calf that the children of Israel lusted after & played & danced around it in worship? that which tempts to sin is best cast away the exact same way as Moses did. here's another, what happened to the children of Israel during Joshua's time when a single individual coveted an cursed thing & brought it & hid it in the congregation of Israel? such a small, insignificant cursed thing it was, but even if it was as small as a penny would not be enough to let the children of Israel get away with that act of transgression, for the LORD sees all - even to that which is hidden. no, Wizard of Oz speaks of "good" witches when in truth, there is no good witch. in Cinderella there is the idea of a fairy "god" mother when in truth, there is one God & like unto Him there is no other. one is a snare, the second is blasphemy in accord to the Word of the most Holy.

if anything contradicts the Word of God (Authorized King James Version for the english speaking nations), that should be a clear warning to abstain & keep away from it. what matters most in your life, in my life & the lives of they which hear the precious words of our Shepherd - is to cast away the mark of the beast from us & to prepare for the great harvest. to inherit the Kingdom of God & stand before the LORD's face will require the death of all sin within each of us.

~levite-7


levite-7 you posted very good post, my heart says amen to this!
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