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~Selah~
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM (all over the pages) *edit* see Here Am I 's post beneath to understand the edit*

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?
Here Am I
Seems that little black book was placed in with the Bibles' section intentionally.

There may be a nefarious spell attached to the reading of, or chanting those words over and over.

You might want to consider editing those words from your post.

Wiccan law says...

"DO NO HARM"
(... to other people, to animals to the environment or to yourself)

http://ireland.iol.ie/~plugin/wiccans.htm

There are variations of what the phrase actually entails, depending on which branch of paganism / satanism it is used by.

This information was derived from a brief Google search.
whirlwind
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 24 2008, 04:35 PM) *
Seems that little black book was placed in with the Bibles' section intentionally.

There may be a nefarious spell attached to the reading of, or chanting those words over and over.

You might want to consider editing those words from your post.

Wiccan law says...

"DO NO HARM"
(... to other people, to animals to the environment or to yourself)

http://ireland.iol.ie/~plugin/wiccans.htm

There are variations of what the phrase actually entails, depending on which branch of paganism / satanism it is used by.

This information was derived from a brief Google search.


Hi Annie, I thought those words sounded familiar...perhaps from a previous post of yours. I know I didn't have a good feeling about them. sad.gif

Selah, when I first read your post...along with the "not good feeling," I questioned one that would live by the "do no harm" slogan. It sounds good but if they put it ahead of the Bible and believe that just "doing no harm" is what is needed, all that is needed, as those that want to save the world believe....they'll miss the boat.

It sounds a lot like the Joel Olsteen church, among others. Be happy, do no harm, love everyone, save the trees etc., but nothing about God. The most important equation is missing from the little black book in the bible section. But sadly, I don't know if those that feel good about not harming anything will realize that. Again using Olsteen as an example....folks, lots of folks, sit in his church every Sunday believing they are worshipping the Lord or doing no harm....they aren't worshipping and they are harming themselves in the process. They learn nothing and one day....they will have to give an account.

After thinking about it....If an angel placed it there...I would question who that angel bows to. ohmy.gif
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM...

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?


When I read it my insides moaned,,,,,,Indeed God did not put it there......
Here Am I
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Oct 24 2008, 05:50 PM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Oct 24 2008, 04:35 PM) *
Seems that little black book was placed in with the Bibles' section intentionally.

There may be a nefarious spell attached to the reading of, or chanting those words over and over.

You might want to consider editing those words from your post.

Wiccan law says...

"DO NO HARM"
(... to other people, to animals to the environment or to yourself)

http://ireland.iol.ie/~plugin/wiccans.htm

There are variations of what the phrase actually entails, depending on which branch of paganism / satanism it is used by.

This information was derived from a brief Google search.


Hi Annie, I thought those words sounded familiar...perhaps from a previous post of yours. I know I didn't have a good feeling about them. sad.gif

Selah, when I first read your post...along with the "not good feeling," I questioned one that would live by the "do no harm" slogan. It sounds good but if they put it ahead of the Bible and believe that just "doing no harm" is what is needed, all that is needed, as those that want to save the world believe....they'll miss the boat.

It sounds a lot like the Joel Olsteen church, among others. Be happy, do no harm, love everyone, save the trees etc., but nothing about God. The most important equation is missing from the little black book in the bible section. But sadly, I don't know if those that feel good about not harming anything will realize that. Again using Olsteen as an example....folks, lots of folks, sit in his church every Sunday believing they are worshipping the Lord or doing no harm....they aren't worshipping and they are harming themselves in the process. They learn nothing and one day....they will have to give an account.

After thinking about it....If an angel placed it there...I would question who that angel bows to. ohmy.gif



Yes, Judi... you have great discernment!

"God's" Golden Rule is:


"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them"
-Matthew 7:12

Satan and his ministers are deceivers... they repeatedly twist God's Word.

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness"
-2Corinthians 11:14-15
Here Am I
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 24 2008, 07:09 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM DO NO HARM...

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?


When I read it my insides moaned,,,,,,Indeed God did not put it there......


Amen, NIGHTMARE!
Adeline
Selah,

I read your post and than I immediately did a re-read. As I read the words from your posts my heart sunk and I inwardly groaned. I along with the Sisters and Brothers in Christ do not believe that this book was placed in the bookstore by one of God's people.I think it is a strong possibility that one of satans people put that bible there. One thing you may want to consider is this...every major religion tries to follow the Golden rule. Anyway getting back to your finding, don't you consider it odd that this "little bible" did not have the name of Jesus written anywhere in it? And although there was the word "Holy" written on this bible it doesn't mean that that book was Gods love message for his children. I mean, "Do no harm," a message 'supposedly' for Christian can actually mean that something satanic wants to stuff a gag on Christians and is attempting to silence Christians and in this way the little germs army wins.

We are involved in a spiritual war and as a private in Gods army I need to be aware of fires shot at me by enemy troops.

God Blessings,

Al
~Selah~
I don't think I explained myself very well. I never ever would have suspected that an Angel of Yahweh put that there and I actually think my Mom's comment about the possibility was that of a 'fallen Angel'. She and I both (if you could have seen) it was like we were touching something tainted. It was VERY creepy that's why I'd considered taking it the the clerk to ask him/her about it-to see if they knew about it being there, after all they do straighten the shelves and do inventory. But my Mom said "no just put it back and leave it"...

Actually if I'd not been in the presence of another witness...I'd almost think I was seeing things. Weird ay?? The odd thing is that who would go through the trouble to have a book like that printed and bound and yet it had NO ISBN number on it anywhere. No author, no publisher, no date no nothing. I even said to my Mom; I wouldn't pay 30.00 for that!

I wonder if I should go back and remove it? Take it to the clerk? Surely by now someone has brought it to the stores attention?

Anyway...like all of you, I saw nothing positive about that book at all. It was one of those rare situations where you just want to pretend you never saw it...

I did find this on the web:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/chicago.html

How that might relate...I dunno.
Adeline
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 09:48 PM) *
I don't think I explained myself very well. I never ever would have suspected that an Angel of Yahweh put that there and I actually think my Mom's comment about the possibility was that of a 'fallen Angel'. She and I both (if you could have seen) it was like we were touching something tainted. It was VERY creepy that's why I'd considered taking it the the clerk to ask him/her about it-to see if they knew about it being there, after all they do straighten the shelves and do inventory. But my Mom said "no just put it back and leave it"...

Actually if I'd not been in the presence of another witness...I'd almost think I was seeing things. Weird ay?? The odd thing is that who would go through the trouble to have a book like that printed and bound and yet it had NO ISBN number on it anywhere. No author, no publisher, no date no nothing. I even said to my Mom; I wouldn't pay 30.00 for that!

I wonder if I should go back and remove it? Take it to the clerk? Surely by now someone has brought it to the stores attention?

Anyway...like all of you, I saw nothing positive about that book at all. It was one of those rare situations where you just want to pretend you never saw it...

I did find this on the web:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/chicago.html

How that might relate...I dunno.


Selah,

I was ohmy.gif as I read your first post and now I am laugh.gif . Thank-you so much for this post.

Love You,

Al

PS- Doesn't take much lately to give this girl a shock treatment.

Al




~Selah~
QUOTE (Adeline @ Oct 24 2008, 10:34 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 09:48 PM) *
I don't think I explained myself very well. I never ever would have suspected that an Angel of Yahweh put that there and I actually think my Mom's comment about the possibility was that of a 'fallen Angel'. She and I both (if you could have seen) it was like we were touching something tainted. It was VERY creepy that's why I'd considered taking it the the clerk to ask him/her about it-to see if they knew about it being there, after all they do straighten the shelves and do inventory. But my Mom said "no just put it back and leave it"...

Actually if I'd not been in the presence of another witness...I'd almost think I was seeing things. Weird ay?? The odd thing is that who would go through the trouble to have a book like that printed and bound and yet it had NO ISBN number on it anywhere. No author, no publisher, no date no nothing. I even said to my Mom; I wouldn't pay 30.00 for that!

I wonder if I should go back and remove it? Take it to the clerk? Surely by now someone has brought it to the stores attention?

Anyway...like all of you, I saw nothing positive about that book at all. It was one of those rare situations where you just want to pretend you never saw it...

I did find this on the web:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/chicago.html

How that might relate...I dunno.


Selah,

I was ohmy.gif as I read your first post and now I am laugh.gif . Thank-you so much for this post.

Love You,

Al

PS- Doesn't take much lately to give this girl a shock treatment.

Al


I am so sorry about that...I really should have been way more detailed in the first place. You know how you want to share something and you're being rushed or trying to hurry...well that was what happened..

It's sort of strange I told someone else about the book and they said perhaps someone put it there so no one would harm the Bible?? Interesting thought; but I still lean toward it being planted by the enemy.

Well anyway...I'm not going to lose sleep over it. And I hope you won't either. Are you doing well?
Adeline
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 11:44 PM) *
QUOTE (Adeline @ Oct 24 2008, 10:34 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 09:48 PM) *
I don't think I explained myself very well. I never ever would have suspected that an Angel of Yahweh put that there and I actually think my Mom's comment about the possibility was that of a 'fallen Angel'. She and I both (if you could have seen) it was like we were touching something tainted. It was VERY creepy that's why I'd considered taking it the the clerk to ask him/her about it-to see if they knew about it being there, after all they do straighten the shelves and do inventory. But my Mom said "no just put it back and leave it"...

Actually if I'd not been in the presence of another witness...I'd almost think I was seeing things. Weird ay?? The odd thing is that who would go through the trouble to have a book like that printed and bound and yet it had NO ISBN number on it anywhere. No author, no publisher, no date no nothing. I even said to my Mom; I wouldn't pay 30.00 for that!

I wonder if I should go back and remove it? Take it to the clerk? Surely by now someone has brought it to the stores attention?

Anyway...like all of you, I saw nothing positive about that book at all. It was one of those rare situations where you just want to pretend you never saw it...

I did find this on the web:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron/chicago.html

How that might relate...I dunno.


Selah,

I was ohmy.gif as I read your first post and now I am laugh.gif . Thank-you so much for this post.

Love You,

Al

PS- Doesn't take much lately to give this girl a shock treatment.

Al


I am so sorry about that...I really should have been way more detailed in the first place. You know how you want to share something and you're being rushed or trying to hurry...well that was what happened..

It's sort of strange I told someone else about the book and they said perhaps someone put it there so no one would harm the Bible?? Interesting thought; but I still lean toward it being planted by the enemy.

Well anyway...I'm not going to lose sleep over it. And I hope you won't either. Are you doing well?




The little germ doesn't cause me to loose any sleep, after-all satan is nothing but an aggravation to me. And it comforts my heart when I think that "satan may have won some battles but our GOD WILL WIN THE WAR! Yep the little germ needs an innoculation.

Selah, we are Christians so lets keep one another in prayer and lets keep encouraging each other. I just see so many signs of the end of this world. Sometimes it seems that badness rules over the good in life, yep sometimes I get pessimistic. But the good news is this: At the end of the day our God still rules, and keeps on fighting for HIS children. So great how much God loves us.

Yes, I am doing okay. Since I quit smoking put some weight on so had to join a gym. I got on one of those machines with a girlfriend beside me at the end of my shift. I pushed some buttons (couldn't read what I pushed) and all of a sudden the machine was going super fast and the machine spit me off. It really was amazing how I didn't get hurt. God is so good and giving to HIS children.

I don't know if anyone has been listening to K-love in the last couple of days. What has happened on K-love could have only happened with God. The administrators of this site said; We had meetings concerning the pledge drive, problem is that we forgot to invite God. God has differnet plans than us. Wow look at how God is working. Selah, people needed to step away and allow God to work HIS miracles. Truly a God moment with K-love.

Have a great day. Blessing.

In Christian Love,

Al
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM (all over the pages) *edit* see Here Am I 's post beneath to understand the edit*

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?










I don't want to alarm you, Selah, but this is very serious and you might want to have your entire church pray corporately over you and break any "assignment" (curse) demonically transferred over to you when you touched the Wicca book. Wicca (witches) hide "magically charged objects" to curse people, as in this scenario you described of the "planted Wicca book", where their hope is that Christians (or anyone, but primarily Christians are their main target) will be gravitated to the Bible section of the bookstore and touch the “magically charged object” transferring a curse over to the victim. It doesn't matter if you're a Born-Again Christian, if one touches a defiled thing it will have an ill affect on you, which is why Scripture forbids physical contact with such things of sorcery and impurity. I have personally seen and witnessed great and serious harm come to Bible-Believing Christians by such means of witchcraft. Satan knows who you are, and the book was meant for your discovery and encounter, because you pose as God’s instrumental threat against the “Demonic Agenda”. But rest assure our God is GREATER, but you HAVE TO ACT, and DO NOT hesitate. I would recommend that you seek a Christian Deliverer in your area who specializes in removing assignments, besides having your church pray for you. I cannot stress more so how critical this situation is for you.

SEE: http://books.google.com/books?id=xAmMNnJlf...1&ct=result



Meanwhile, I will pray God's covering over you in this very hour.















crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM (all over the pages) *edit* see Here Am I 's post beneath to understand the edit*

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?








Luke 10:19

King James Bible
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primum_non_nocere
Primum non nocere is a Latin phrase that means "First, do no harm." The phrase is sometimes recorded as primum nil nocere.

The phrase expresses one of the principal precepts all medical students are taught in medical school and is a fundamental principle for the emergency medical services. It reminds the physician and other health care providers that she or he must consider the possible harm that any intervention might do. This is most often mentioned when debating use of an intervention with an obvious chance of harm but a less certain chance of benefit. Since at least 1860, the phrase has been for physicians a hallowed expression of hope, intention, humility, and recognition that human acts with good intentions may have unwanted consequences.
Latter Rain Adam
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 24 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Recently I took a trip to the local BookStore. Barnes and Noble to be exact, and I'm strumming through the Bible's and looking at all the different versions and such and I see a thin black book, so I pick it up and the cover reads "The Holy Bible". Inside though..on every single page this is what is written..(and looks just like this too)
DO NO HARM (all over the pages) *edit* see Here Am I 's post beneath to understand the edit*

Well you get the picture. All the pages, back and front say this in repetition from the beginning to the end. I was like.."Hunh"??? Now the next odd thing I notice is there is no author, no ISBN number but there is a sicky price tag tof $30.00.

I thought briefly about taking it to the counter and asking the clerk about it; but then something said to put it back and leave it...but I've tried to consider the meaning (other than the obvious) my Mom suggested maybe an Angel put it there?

Thoughts?


I believe that some sort of pagan person placed that book there. It could have been a customer or even an empoyee. There was likely some magical reason that it was made and placed there. Whoever put it there must believe that they are going to accomplish something spiritual. Who knows what they were thinking. It may have been wise to not ask the employees about it, in case you talked to a witch who might possibly try and give you trouble about it. Maybe if you see it there again, take it to the desk or the bathroom book dispenser in from of the bathroom door and drop it there. That way, whoever finds it might notice that it might not belong on the sales shelf.

The person who put that book there obviously believes that the Wiccan Rede is superior to the Bible. The Wiccan Rede, or some variation of it, is the statement of faith of most forms of paganism, especially Wiccan ones. It is a God-less, man centered twist on the Bible's Golden Rule, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." It is truly a demonic temptation to possess spiritual "knowledge of good and evil" without taking God or the Bible into the equation at all. Magic seeks to empower people without recognizing the need for going to Jesus for anything.

I would not over react. There is no need to assemble a group to combat the assumed plans of the demons. At the most, command any magic that may be associated with the book to be broken in Jesus name. Ask God to save whoever has anything to do with it. This sort of mockery is common among many of those involved with Wicca who are not as mature. I experienced it often on the streets when reaching out to Wiccans among the crouds of people ouot to party for the night. They would take pictures of us, give us strange gifts, ask us our names and write it down, ask us for something small that we own, etc, etc. They were trying to do rituals and hex us. It only would work sometimes if there was some sort of serious compromise in your life, or a problem of unbelief maybe. If you are right with God, he has protection over you. Just show a healthy respect for the powers of darkness, but never have any fear over their ways.

"23 For there is no enchantment against Jacob,no divination against Israel;" Numbers 23:23.

Here is some of Wikipedia's info about the Wiccan Rede:
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The Wiccan Rede (pronounced "reed") is a saying that was formulated to sum up the ethics of the Neo-Pagan religion Wicca. The most common form of the Rede is An it harm none, do what ye will. "Rede" is a word from Middle English meaning "advice" or "counsel", cognate to the German Rat or Swedish råd. "An" is an archaic contraction of the word "and," meaning "if," as in the Shakespearean "an it please thee."

Other variants include:

Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill, An it harm none do what ye will. Note: This is the first published form of the couplet, quoted from Doreen Valiente in 1964. Later published versions include "ye" instead of either "the" or "it": "Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill — an ye harm none, do what ye will" (Earth Religion News, 1974); "Eight words ye Wiccan Rede fulfill - An’ it harm none, Do what ye will" (Green Egg, 1975)
An it harm none, do what thou wilt
An it harm none, do as thou wilt
That it harm none, do as thou wilt
Do what you will, so long as it harms none


[edit] History
The Rede in its best known form as the "eight words" couplet was first publicly recorded in a speech by Doreen Valiente in 1964.[1] A similar phrase, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law, appears in Aleister Crowley's works by 1904, in The Book of the Law (though as used by Crowley it is half of a statement and response, the response being "Love is the Law, love under Will"). According to B.A. Robinson of the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance, Crowley adopted this line from François Rabelais, who in 1534 wrote, "DO AS THOU WILT because men that are free, of gentle birth, well bred and at home in civilized company possess a natural instinct that inclines them to virtue and saves them from vice. This instinct they name their honor".[2] Another possible source is St. Augustine.

King Pausole, a character in Pierre Louÿs', Les aventures du roi Pausole (The Adventures of King Pausole, published in 1901), had a similar motto of Do what you like as long as you harm no one. Although Gardner noted the similarity of the rede to King Pausole's words, Silver Ravenwolf believes it is more directly referencing Crowley.[3] Another notable antecedent was put forth by the philosopher John Stuart Mill with his harm principle in the 19th century.[4] "Mill argues that the sole purpose of law should be to stop people from harming others and that should people want to participate in victimless crimes, crimes with no complaining witness, such as gambling, drug usage, engaging in prostitution, then they should not be encroached in doing so."[citation needed] Documented ideas similar to the Rede reach as far back as the fourth century theologian Saint Augustine of Hippo. In the "seventh treatise of the Epistles of St. John," Augustine wrote Dilige, et quod vis fac meaning Love, and do what you will,"[5] although it is also seen quoted as Ama Deum et fac quod vis (Love God, and do what you want).[6] It has also been argued that similar concepts exist among Native Americans.[7]

[edit] Interpretations of the Rede
The Rede is similar to the Golden Rule, a belief that is found in nearly every religion. Not all traditional Wiccans follow the Rede; Gardnerians (a sect under Wicca) espouse the Charge of the Goddess as a guide for morality. Its line "Keep pure your highest ideal, strive ever towards it; let naught stop you or turn you aside, for mine is the secret door which opens upon the door of youth" is used as a maxim for ethical dilemmas.[12]

There is some debate in the neo-Pagan and Wiccan communities as to the meaning of the Rede. The debate centers on the concept of the Rede being advice, not a commandment. The rejection of specific exhortations and prohibitions of conduct such as those given in the Judeo-Christian Ten Commandments makes the Rede's character somewhat different from say, the Holy Bible or the Qur'an. The Rede is only a guideline which the individual must interpret to fit each particular situation and unlike these Abrahamic religions, which actions "do harm" (and which do not) are not discussed in the Rede. What exactly does and does not do harm is therefore open to personal interpretation.

The concept of ethical reciprocity is not explicitly stated, but most Wiccans interpret the Rede to imply the Golden Rule in the belief that the spirit of the Rede is to actively do good for one's fellow humans as well as for oneself. Different sects of Wiccans read "none" differently. "None" can apply to only the self, or it may include animals and/or plants, and so forth. In essence, the Rede can be fully understood as meaning that one should always follow their true will instead of trying to obtain simple wants and to ensure that following one's will it does not harm anyone or anything. In this light, the Rede can be seen as encouraging a Wiccan to take personal responsibility for his or her actions. Causing harm by inaction is therefore inconsistent with Wiccan belief.[13][14]


[edit] Interpretations of "harm none"
There have been a number of published interpretations of how one should determine what constitutes 'harming none'. Silver Ravenwolf, for instance, believes that although acting to restrain a wrong-doer is in a sense harming them, failure to act against them could allow greater harm; this must be carefully weighed up, and preferably a course of action can be found that minimises harm to all parties.[15][16]

A few people observe a modern revised Rede with the words "an it cause harm, do as you must" appended.[17]
~Selah~
Thanks all of you for your sincere responses and also for your prayers smile.gif I know witchraft or wicca is very real; more so to the person who believes it. However; I know we as followers of Yahshua have the authority over such things. We know there is only one God and we also know that whatever else that is being worshiped is either man or demon or a combination of the two.

I think it is only when we ourselves begin to fear such things that we also begin to believe such things and because our faith has been weakend we then become subject to them ourselves. If we were to really look around; it's everywhere, it is on TV, in books, in schools, in the government, on food labels, in the medical field...witchraft and sorceries are-from what I understand-a big part of Mystery Babylon and the Beast which carries her. And according to Revelation..it has reached unto heaven even!! But we are overcomers...we're living in a world filled and piled with every unclean thing there is, every creepy crawler and unclean bird...but Blessed is the Lamb who was slain for us to get through this terrible time and overcome all of these things through the blood of the Lamb smile.gif

I did a little research myself on the words 'do no harm' and it is used by muslims, buddhist, christians, and like C7 added it is used by buisness and medical field, there have been books written about it and movies and not to mention the wicca's use it(as some of you have pointed out)...So there ya go on that! ohmy.gif

It is freaky to think this stuff is everywhere. But when you really think about it..do not all things belong to God, He is Creator and we technically would have nothing if it weren't for the things He's created. Man takes the Created things by God and makes other things; for good purposes or for evil...it's when man takes God's things and turns them into something disgusting it then becomes 'babylon'.

Anyway...I could go on and on about this; we just need to remember these things are part of prophecy and will lead to God's Glory smile.gif

Luke 10:20
Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


Much love to you all in Yahshua's Name ~

WhiteKnight
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 25 2008, 10:49 PM) *
Thanks all of you for your sincere responses and also for your prayers smile.gif I know witchraft or wicca is very real; more so to the person who believes it. However; I know we as followers of Yahshua have the authority over such things. We know there is only one God and we also know that whatever else that is being worshiped is either man or demon or a combination of the two.

I think it is only when we ourselves begin to fear such things that we also begin to believe such things and because our faith has been weakend we then become subject to them ourselves. If we were to really look around; it's everywhere, it is on TV, in books, in schools, in the government, on food labels, in the medical field...witchraft and sorceries are-from what I understand-a big part of Mystery Babylon and the Beast which carries her. And according to Revelation..it has reached unto heaven even!! But we are overcomers...we're living in a world filled and piled with every unclean thing there is, every creepy crawler and unclean bird...but Blessed is the Lamb who was slain for us to get through this terrible time and overcome all of these things through the blood of the Lamb smile.gif

I did a little research myself on the words 'do no harm' and it is used by muslims, buddhist, christians, and like C7 added it is used by buisness and medical field, there have been books written about it and movies and not to mention the wicca's use it(as some of you have pointed out)...So there ya go on that! ohmy.gif

It is freaky to think this stuff is everywhere. But when you really think about it..do not all things belong to God, He is Creator and we technically would have nothing if it weren't for the things He's created. Man takes the Created things by God and makes other things; for good purposes or for evil...it's when man takes God's things and turns them into something disgusting it then becomes 'babylon'.

Anyway...I could go on and on about this; we just need to remember these things are part of prophecy and will lead to God's Glory smile.gif

Luke 10:20
Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


Much love to you all in Yahshua's Name ~


Why stop now?. Continue...

I think witchcraft and wicca are same?. No?. Well i don't know nothing regarding the subjects. All i do know is that whoever does witchcraft would be severe punished by Lord.

QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 25 2008, 10:49 PM) *
Thanks all of you for your sincere responses and also for your prayers smile.gif I know witchraft or wicca is very real; more so to the person who believes it. However; I know we as followers of Yahshua have the authority over such things. We know there is only one God and we also know that whatever else that is being worshiped is either man or demon or a combination of the two.

I think it is only when we ourselves begin to fear such things that we also begin to believe such things and because our faith has been weakend we then become subject to them ourselves. If we were to really look around; it's everywhere, it is on TV, in books, in schools, in the government, on food labels, in the medical field...witchraft and sorceries are-from what I understand-a big part of Mystery Babylon and the Beast which carries her. And according to Revelation..it has reached unto heaven even!! But we are overcomers...we're living in a world filled and piled with every unclean thing there is, every creepy crawler and unclean bird...but Blessed is the Lamb who was slain for us to get through this terrible time and overcome all of these things through the blood of the Lamb smile.gif

I did a little research myself on the words 'do no harm' and it is used by muslims, buddhist, christians, and like C7 added it is used by buisness and medical field, there have been books written about it and movies and not to mention the wicca's use it(as some of you have pointed out)...So there ya go on that! ohmy.gif

It is freaky to think this stuff is everywhere. But when you really think about it..do not all things belong to God, He is Creator and we technically would have nothing if it weren't for the things He's created. Man takes the Created things by God and makes other things; for good purposes or for evil...it's when man takes God's things and turns them into something disgusting it then becomes 'babylon'.

Anyway...I could go on and on about this; we just need to remember these things are part of prophecy and will lead to God's Glory smile.gif

Luke 10:20
Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


Much love to you all in Yahshua's Name ~


Why stop now?. Continue...

I think witchcraft and wicca are same?. No?. Well i don't know nothing regarding the subjects. All i do know is that whoever does witchcraft would be severe punished by Lord.
~Selah~
QUOTE (WhiteKnight @ Oct 25 2008, 01:05 PM) *
Why stop now?. Continue...

I think witchcraft and wicca are same?. No?. Well i don't know nothing regarding the subjects. All i do know is that whoever does witchcraft would be severe punished by Lord.


Very much the same. I really haven't studied much about the two, all I know is anything that is exaling the creature or creation above the Creator is witchcraft, divination, sorcery etc...There is punishment involved from The Lord for knowingly involving oneself with these devices; but also consider that it is almost the person punishing themselves by drinking from the cup of devils to begin with...God has provided all of us with a way out of these things, He set's the captives free. But if the captive would rather remain in captivity and subjection to devils and incantatons and idols...? What else can be done? I believe in intercessory prayer-praying for the person's behalf to Yahshua-and I believe it is vitally important to do this for others who are worshiping the creature over the Creator.

"Forgive them Father for they know not what they do"

It's all about the weaknesses of the flesh and forgiveness and overcoming with the blood of the Lamb.

I guess that's all I can think to really say about all that stuff...
Vissarion
QUOTE (Adeline @ Oct 24 2008, 09:01 PM) *
I got on one of those machines with a girlfriend beside me at the end of my shift. I pushed some buttons (couldn't read what I pushed) and all of a sudden the machine was going super fast and the machine spit me off. It really was amazing how I didn't get hurt. God is so good and giving to HIS children.


Yes, god takes very good care of our dear Adeline in the gym.
Praise to Jesus.
Meanwhile, it remains unclear why he allows thousands of children to starve to death,every single day, or why he allowed my baby sister to die after just a few months on Earth.

We must conclude that these infants, born in far away countries, are not worthy,or that Adeline is very,very precious to Him.

My sister,no doubt, deserved to die. The sinner that she was, not knowing Jesus and all.

It is a very good thing that Adeline is making these unbelievably obscene comments on an Internet forum and not in the presence of someone like me.

Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of religious men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my sister. And you will know my name is Vissarion when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

V.


John Prewett
QUOTE (Vissarion @ Oct 27 2008, 05:59 AM) *
QUOTE (Adeline @ Oct 24 2008, 09:01 PM) *
I got on one of those machines with a girlfriend beside me at the end of my shift. I pushed some buttons (couldn't read what I pushed) and all of a sudden the machine was going super fast and the machine spit me off. It really was amazing how I didn't get hurt. God is so good and giving to HIS children.


Yes, god takes very good care of our dear Adeline in the gym.
Praise to Jesus.
Meanwhile, it remains unclear why he allows thousands of children to starve to death,every single day, or why he allowed my baby sister to die after just a few months on Earth.

We must conclude that these infants, born in far away countries, are not worthy,or that Adeline is very,very precious to Him.

My sister,no doubt, deserved to die. The sinner that she was, not knowing Jesus and all.

It is a very good thing that Adeline is making these unbelievably obscene comments on an Internet forum and not in the presence of someone like me.

Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of religious men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my sister. And you will know my name is Vissarion when I lay my vengeance upon thee." V.


If there is no God, then you have no "God" to blame.

If there is a God, then you should understand [at least try] that "death" is not the same from God's POV as it is from the POV of a nonbeliever.


Adeline
V, I am really sorry about your baby sisters death as well as the death of every child in this world. Is my life more worthy? Nope. not at all and I really don't understand.
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