The bible version I use as reference is the King James Version dated 1611. I have noticed in modern versions that there appears to be some books from within this version missing and wonder why the specific books missing are gone! What reason is there to remove them from modern society’s versions? It is the inspiration of the highest thoughts that enlightens man kinds thoughts, Wisdom doesn’t come easy or picture perfect accord in to our own beliefs.
Here are some interesting references that I think are words of inspiring wisdom, these words can be found in the book following the Book of Wisdom it is the Book Of Ecclesiasticus. Some of the references require a person to take the time and read the book before reading the material I will share.
“Many are the important truths conveyed to us in the law, by the prophets and those who have scribed after them over the ages”
“I must beg those who choose to read further to come well deposed to their task, and follow closely, making allowances for me where ever I seem to have failed to deliver the right words which may cause slight confusion”
“Gods wisdom and existence tho can not be traced to its origins, it is because that was before all that exists existed, His origins is all of created things, time never was when the riddle of thought was unread, What is its course? It is his commandments, wise are their counsels? What is the real formation of pure wisdom? His word knowing all high is his teaching which brings great pain which wisdom reveals great torment and pain to those who have it. To learn the appreciation of the truth in all its form is what we should aspire for until we have learnt all which is to be understood”
“True wisdom and knowledge has within its treasure house the piety that comes of having such knowledge, no wonder sinners hate the name of it. The fear of the Lord derives from the act of sin, from a soul that fears but acts without pardon, each mood overbalances it, Only with patience your goal be achieved over lengthy time”
“New life wisdom breathes into her children, Wisdom and knowledge does not deny you access, but befriends all those who have resource to her, and guides them onto the path of truth and right”
“Sons & Daughters of creation ever after, study well what the time needs, ever on thy guard against the acts of wrong doing; though life itself is at peril, never through out your life here upon the earth be ashamed to speak the truth”
“A glib tongue, and hands that hang down idle, such be not thine whilst all life stands confronted with that which ends time”
“Do battle for the right, all thy life long, and with thy last breath do battle for the right still; Creation, in thy cause, will overcome thy enemies upon times end”
“I can not give way to wisdom or knowledge, True answer and wise answer I can not give to thy, who does not listen patiently, and learns all; achieves nil accomplishes nothing but assumptions”
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Greetings Guardian,
How is your study of the Apocrypha going? Have you received any insights about God that are not forthcoming from the Canon of Scripture contained in the KJV? What makes them interesting ?
These books have not been lost as such and can be readily accessed by anyone who wants to study them, but they did not meet the criteria of the spiritual leaders who evaluated them because they contain geographical and historical inaccuracies, teachings that contradict divinely inspired Scripture, and their writings lack credible supernatural elements.
An example of historical inaccuracy is the book of Judith which says that a young Jewess enticed Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, by her charms and eventually beheaded him and overthrew his army.The book of Judith must be considered as fiction because its historical facts are inaccurate.
DEFINITION OF APOC'RYPHA, n. [Gr. from, to conceal.]
Literally such things as are not published; but in an appropriate sense, books whose authors are not known; whose authenticity, as inspired writings, is not admitted, and which are therefore not considered a part of the sacred canon of the scripture. When the Jews published their sacred books, they called them canonical and divine; such as they did not publish, were called apocryphal. The apocryphal books are received by the Romish Church as canonical, but not by Protestants.
Blessings from Michael C-F.
How is your study of the Apocrypha going? Have you received any insights about God that are not forthcoming from the Canon of Scripture contained in the KJV? What makes them interesting ?
These books have not been lost as such and can be readily accessed by anyone who wants to study them, but they did not meet the criteria of the spiritual leaders who evaluated them because they contain geographical and historical inaccuracies, teachings that contradict divinely inspired Scripture, and their writings lack credible supernatural elements.
An example of historical inaccuracy is the book of Judith which says that a young Jewess enticed Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, by her charms and eventually beheaded him and overthrew his army.The book of Judith must be considered as fiction because its historical facts are inaccurate.
DEFINITION OF APOC'RYPHA, n. [Gr. from, to conceal.]
Literally such things as are not published; but in an appropriate sense, books whose authors are not known; whose authenticity, as inspired writings, is not admitted, and which are therefore not considered a part of the sacred canon of the scripture. When the Jews published their sacred books, they called them canonical and divine; such as they did not publish, were called apocryphal. The apocryphal books are received by the Romish Church as canonical, but not by Protestants.
Blessings from Michael C-F.
Well if these additions or books were left out due to inaccuracies then logic and time giving the earlier the text the more probable it was more accurate than modern text today, One needs to take into consideration mans lust for eternal life and the key to creation, corrupting those who during time have had in their poccessions the Inspired Texts of Life and then add into the factor their lust for knowledge and power and then you will discover why the bible has lost so many people. It has lead the children of today down by allowing to much interpretation and meaning to the words written :-(
I also can word how i see the book of life, I see it as a book of what was,is and allways will be. I see the book of life as a alpha numeric keypad ( like a house alarm pad ) and with the right sequence a person can reach the path of truth and true knowledge and wisdom. Each book vital to the correct sequence, Each book as important as the book before and after it. Translation,interpretation with unlimited meaning and thats enough to have the children running in circles screaming and shouting driven to seek but unable to understand or discover the truth. Thus said the truth is not always the easiest or prettiest of discoveries. AND i am 100% sure that if most discovered it they could not handle the resposibility or burdens that would sure follow.
Proverbs 9:10 says that "the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."
With so many writings around claiming to provide readers with "wisdom" and "knowledge" and "understanding", Guardian, it is the Bible that stands out because as Psalm 12:6 says "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."
The nation of Israel needed a canon of Scripture because her cycles of backsliding and returning to God indicated that a careless attitude towards maintaining her covenant relationship was frequently allowed to go unchecked. Without recognised and accepted Scriptures of divine origin, the captivity and dispersion of Israel could have destroyed her spiritual life. When the Roman General Titus succeeded in destroying the temple in Jerusalem in AD 70, the message of God's loving plan remained because the faithfully recorded instructions, revelations, poems, prophecies, and experiences of God's covenant people provided a unifying element that no other works of literature will ever have the power to do.
Hebrews 4:12-16 "For the word of God is living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (13) Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened to the eyes of him with whom we have to do. (14) Seeing then that we have a great High Priest, that has passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. (15) For we have not a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but who was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. (16) Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."
Don't be led astray
Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man make a prey of you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
With so many writings around claiming to provide readers with "wisdom" and "knowledge" and "understanding", Guardian, it is the Bible that stands out because as Psalm 12:6 says "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."
The nation of Israel needed a canon of Scripture because her cycles of backsliding and returning to God indicated that a careless attitude towards maintaining her covenant relationship was frequently allowed to go unchecked. Without recognised and accepted Scriptures of divine origin, the captivity and dispersion of Israel could have destroyed her spiritual life. When the Roman General Titus succeeded in destroying the temple in Jerusalem in AD 70, the message of God's loving plan remained because the faithfully recorded instructions, revelations, poems, prophecies, and experiences of God's covenant people provided a unifying element that no other works of literature will ever have the power to do.
Hebrews 4:12-16 "For the word of God is living, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (13) Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened to the eyes of him with whom we have to do. (14) Seeing then that we have a great High Priest, that has passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. (15) For we have not a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but who was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. (16) Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."
Don't be led astray
Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man make a prey of you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
hey there, thanks for your reply.
Well there were a few things you mentioned, the firest being
Proverbs 9:10 I do not deny these words exist, more so however the words of truth it is known, quoted and mentioned so often by many than man has translated and altered that which is the text which forms the book of life, I am sayingI guess i cant respom without the critisim of others i am insane so i prefer to withdraw a response, Thanks for your comments.I am always intrested in peoples reasoning and interpretations of material from throughout the ages.
Well there were a few things you mentioned, the firest being
Proverbs 9:10 I do not deny these words exist, more so however the words of truth it is known, quoted and mentioned so often by many than man has translated and altered that which is the text which forms the book of life, I am sayingI guess i cant respom without the critisim of others i am insane so i prefer to withdraw a response, Thanks for your comments.I am always intrested in peoples reasoning and interpretations of material from throughout the ages.
QUOTE (Guardian Of Centurian @ Oct 24 2008, 06:09 AM) 
hey there, thanks for your reply.
Well there were a few things you mentioned, the firest being
Proverbs 9:10 I do not deny these words exist, more so however the words of truth it is known, quoted and mentioned so often by many than man has translated and altered that which is the text which forms the book of life, I am sayingI guess i cant respom without the critisim of others i am insane so i prefer to withdraw a response, Thanks for your comments.I am always intrested in peoples reasoning and interpretations of material from throughout the ages.
Well there were a few things you mentioned, the firest being
Proverbs 9:10 I do not deny these words exist, more so however the words of truth it is known, quoted and mentioned so often by many than man has translated and altered that which is the text which forms the book of life, I am sayingI guess i cant respom without the critisim of others i am insane so i prefer to withdraw a response, Thanks for your comments.I am always intrested in peoples reasoning and interpretations of material from throughout the ages.
The Bible is 100% true and is as intended by God. The Apocrypha of the Bible is additive as historical literature but is not Inspired as is the accepted Canon is. However, Jude quotes a text that is not part of the Canon. Having historical materials such as the Apocrypha is fine, just realize which is God-Breathed 100% and which is not.
The Jude 9 Scripture is an interesting one to study, and as you rightly point out, Jack777, does draw on a traditionally held belief about the body of Moses, now discovered inserted in a so-called apocryphal work.
Origen (De Principiis III.2.1) uses the title 'Ascension of Moses' for the document which contains the dispute between Michael and the Devil, i.e. the Assumption of Moses. (Outside the Old Testament, p. 145)
Jude 1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you."
The Jude who authored this chapter of the Bible is identified along with James, as being the Lord's half-brother, which may explain his inspired choice of illustrative references. In addition to Egypt, Sodom, Gomorrha, Moses, Michael, Satan, Cain, Balaam, and Core, Jude also mentions, in verse 14, a prophecy by Enoch which is not found recorded elsewhere. The use of these references is consistent with the theme of "assurance in days of apostasy", and it would seem extremely hypocritical for a writer, in verse 3, to exhort readers to "contend earnestly for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints", and then proceed himself to use spuriously sourced material in verses 9 and 14.
The final outcome, Guardian, and others, regardless of concerns about altered texts, modern paraphrases, and man's interpretations, is beautifully presented in verse 24 where we are comforted with the knowledge that God is able to keep us from falling and able to present us faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy... that is, if we allow Him to.
Origen (De Principiis III.2.1) uses the title 'Ascension of Moses' for the document which contains the dispute between Michael and the Devil, i.e. the Assumption of Moses. (Outside the Old Testament, p. 145)
Jude 1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke you."
The Jude who authored this chapter of the Bible is identified along with James, as being the Lord's half-brother, which may explain his inspired choice of illustrative references. In addition to Egypt, Sodom, Gomorrha, Moses, Michael, Satan, Cain, Balaam, and Core, Jude also mentions, in verse 14, a prophecy by Enoch which is not found recorded elsewhere. The use of these references is consistent with the theme of "assurance in days of apostasy", and it would seem extremely hypocritical for a writer, in verse 3, to exhort readers to "contend earnestly for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints", and then proceed himself to use spuriously sourced material in verses 9 and 14.
The final outcome, Guardian, and others, regardless of concerns about altered texts, modern paraphrases, and man's interpretations, is beautifully presented in verse 24 where we are comforted with the knowledge that God is able to keep us from falling and able to present us faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy... that is, if we allow Him to.
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