The book of Revelation is so simple to understand, if one views it fron the proper Perspective. If one doesn't, it makes no sense at all.

[/indent]The events of the Seals, Trumpets, 3 1/2 year reign of the false Messiah, Vials of the wrath of God, and the Lords return, can basicly be split in half in the book of revelation. This first series of events, is that of deception, which brings on the false messiah. The second occurs at the end of the False messiah's reign, When Jesus reclaims authority over the earth.

Through the Seals and first Six trumpets, we witness events that occur Prior to the reign of the False Messiah. These events include a War that will be viewed and accepted as Aarmageddon. (ezekiel 38, Rev. 6.). At the climax of this war, the Lord has revealed Himself, although He does not return at this time. We witness a group of People in the sixth seal. hiding from God, Proclaiming it is the day of the Lord. Now if one wants to believe a group of People who hide from God, Have at it!! Not me!! This is followed by the first four trumpets, which mirror the vials of the wrath of God, But they are smaller in scope (1/3 instead of all destroyed) This will be accepted as the "Wrath of God", that is prophesied to fall AFTER THE REIGN OF THE FALSE MESSIAH, but actually occurs before.

The stage is now set for antichrist. Its, Halftime, thus the reason why John is told, "He must prophecy again". After this, and only after this, do we witness the 42 month reign of the false Messiah being decribed. The first half of the 70th week sets the stage for antichrist, the second half is his reign. This in turn is followed by the "last trump", the Harvest, the restainer being removed, the kingdoms of this world becoming the kingdoms of the Lord, Now, and only Now can God's wrath be poured out.

There is two power struggles in the end time, The first, when satan is cast to earth to rule and reign for 42 months. The Second, when Christ returns with his Army 42 months later, when the real identity of the False messiah is made known.[indent]

UNfortunatelty, the doctrine that most embrace today, Is a fine Crafted Lie from the enemy, which has the end result of Leading many right into His arms, and acceptance of Him as GOD!!

"UNfortunatelty, the doctrine that most embrace today, Is a fine Crafted Lie from the enemy, which has the end result of Leading many right into His arms, and acceptance of Him as GOD!!"

>I think this is exactly what you are doing by analysis of your postings

>You have abundant half truths mix in with gross and very detectable error

Reminds me of this Foo Fighters song:


Too alarming now to talk about
Take your pictures down and shake it out
Truth or consequence, say it aloud
Use that evidence, race it around

There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary

Don’t the best of them bleed it out
While the rest of them peter out
Truth or consequence, say it aloud
Use that evidence, race it around

There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary

Kudos my hero leaving all the best
You know my hero, the one that’s on

There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He’s ordinary

There goes my hero
Watch him as he goes
There goes my hero
He's ordinary

Perception of events in the end time will be everything. It is apparent you lack this perception to understand what is actually being played out in the end time. One only needs to understand, and take into consideration what the enemy is after, and How he could obtain it. Deception is the "main course" of the meal in the Last days. Jesus warned us, MULTIPLE TIMEs, more than anything else, "be ye not decieved" Oops sorry, I just remembered, we won't be down here to face this, will we??? Or will we?? Why would Satan need to decieve a bunch of UNbelievers in the first place? he alraedy has them!!!! He is out to seduce the virgin bride of Christ into accepting Him as the bridegroom, so they Worship Him. [indent][/indent]One cannot even begin to understand how end time events unfold, until one realizes what ones enemy is working towards. If it were possable, even the elect will be decieved....Is Jesus Speaking of unbelievers Here??

"Oops sorry, I just remembered, we won't be down here to face this, will we???"

>What is this "we" stuff?

>I don't disagree that "you" might be

>In fact, if you are still alive when the Lord bring's His coming judgment [you apparently think someone else will bring it] ..... it appears that you will be since that is your choice

>The Lord will let you go in you know .... or do you?

>The believer's salvation is based upon trusting His promises that He has made

> This is what faith is all about

>You even make light it .... a joke out of it

>Not slapping Him in the face by refuting His direct intention to keep one from His wrath and judgments of the tribulation period

> This you are doing

One needs to discern between the Wrath of man, the wrath of Satan, and the Judgement and Wrath of God. It is quite apparent you Have yet to make this discernment.

[/indent]I do trust in the promises of God. He has already "Kept" me from the hour of Temptation that will come upon the earth, because I realize what that "temptaion" is, and what will occur.. I have absolutely no fear of What will happen. Just as Paul States, whether we live or die, we are Christs.

For you to state that I am "slapping" the Lord in the face, because you think I believe we will be down here when His wrath is poured out is, nothing more than a perversion of what I stated. We are not appointed for His wrath. We will be gone before this occurs. It is you, that cannot handle the possability of being down here through tough times. [indent]

I don't take lightly the Word of God, It is because I don't, the Lord has revealed to me what will occur.

"One needs to discern between the Wrath of man, the wrath of Satan, and the Judgement and Wrath of God. It is quite apparent you Have yet to make this discernment"

>Wrong

>Who do you think sends the strong delusion, removes restraint against satan, and puts it in the hearts of the Beast and his followers to destroy MBG's great city?

>You do not pay attention to the details of scripture and or you ignore them

>The entire tribulation period will be brought and controlled by the Lord Himself

>This is evident by the fact that "all" of the judgments come from heaven as Revelation unfolds

>Satan judges no one as he rages.... but only to serve himself .... the Lord's dupe

>The intransigent world refuses to believe the truth about Jesus Christ ..... so He will send them the devil

>The devil's wrath will be a judgment instrument in the Lord's hand

>You totally fail in missing this ... and you have fabricated a story to replace it

>The lesson that forum members can learn here is to observe what you are fabricating

>Many of your statements do not match up with composite scriptures on very significant subjects

>This indicates to me that your are manipulating for the purpose of crafting another gospel

>Or it may also be that you have been misled by false teachers