God uses gender throughout His Word !

In the OT Jacob's name was changed by God to Israel. < a man - gender - male

But the nation of Israel is a "she", - gender - female

God told the nation of Israel, that she went a whoring, when she went after other gods = idolatry.

God created "man" in his own image - gender - male

God created this one "man", both male and female - gender - male

All of the angels of heaven are given male names - Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer - gender - male

Lucifer became a fallen angel, and in the state of being a fallen angel, he now takes on the gender of - - female

The Devil, Satan, angel of darkness is - gender - female

"She" is the whore spoken about in the book of Revelation - gender - female

When the angels of God were sent to earth, they took on the form - image - of a man - gender - male

When God sent His Son into the world, he was a man - gender - male

When the "serpent" went after the man child spoken about in the book of Revelation, it tells us in Rev. 12:15 that "he" cast water out of "his" mouth. The serpent is the Devil, Satan. The serpent took on the image of the gender - male. But in reality, or to say - of a truth, was a gender - female. The "image" she took on, was the image of the gender - male. That is because "he" is a deceiver. He is a liar. He even lies about his true gender , which is - "female". The man child, like all of us born of a woman, come into this life by two given examples - 1. blood and the other 2. water.

The "serpent" used "water", because "she" wanted to prevent the birth of the man child. The use of water is the revealing factor. Also, from whence it game out of is another revealing factor - "mouth".

When God flooded the earth, he opened up the windows of heaven, and the depths of the earth. The "earth" is a "she". God tells us that eight souls were saved by "water". It does not tells us that eight souls were saved by an ark. That is because God opened up a "she" by which salvation took place. Just exactly the same, when God says that a woman is saved by child birth, or to say "giving birth".

The adversary of God is literally a -- female

God tells us in the church that we have power over the devil. The church , the body of Christ is a - female. God's Word tells us that a woman has no authority over a man. But God also tells us, that the Church has authority over evil, the devil. That is because the Devil, Satan - is - a - "she" !

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM

The science behind Genesis 2: 21-25 :



The genetic sex of a child is established at conception based on the 23 pair of chromosomes it inherits.

It is the male (or rather the male's sperm) that dictates whether the baby will be a boy or a girl.

This is why the female is a womb-man, due to the female being created from Adam `man`.

And all feminine application of the darkness (moon) of Eve, is the DNA genetic compartment of
Adam, [ her tissue donor husband ], representing lightness (sun).


SO THE mirror reflection of Adam looking at his dark side, expressed via the `RIB DNA`, by
God (IHVH) creating Eve from Adam's tissue.

So we have 23 pairs of chromosomes at conception, which matches the 23rd verse of Genesis :

. . . . she was taken out of Man . . .


Genesis 2

21And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.





http://biblescripture.net/Apple.jpeg

Let us examine this verse :



22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

EXCERPT:

http://www.baby2see.com/gender/internal_genitals.html

At conception, gender is determined by chromosome characteristics -



The genetic sex of a child is established at conception based on the 23 pair of chromosomes it inherits. The mother's egg contains an X chromosome, and the father's sperm will contain either an X or Y chromosome. It is the male (or rather the male's sperm) that dictates whether the baby will be a boy or a girl.

CROWNSEVENALPHABET . . . CONTINUES . . .
All generations from Adam (Light) & Eve (Dark),
are dictated by Adam, due to the male genetic map code, holding the dominate
God (IHVH) rule, of whether a womb-man gives birth to a boy or girl.

In other words, Adam's genetic code determines whether baby boy (light)
or baby girl (dark) pro-creates continuance reflections, from the
original master DNA plan of IHVH.



THANK YOU, Mysteryman :

(excerpt from Mysteryman)

The adversary of God is literally a -- female

God tells us in the church that we have power over the devil. The church , the body of Christ is a - female. God's Word tells us that a woman has no authority over a man. But God also tells us, that the Church has authority over evil, the devil. That is because the Devil, Satan - is - a - "she" !



C7A . . . continues . . .

There is much symbolic truth (33) in the adversary being
a female.

Due to God (IHVH) the Ain Sof (limitlessness),
manifestation of His Sovereignty :

Sovereignty is the exclusive right to control a government, a country, a people, or oneself. A sovereign is the supreme lawmaking authority.

God (IHVH) is the Sovereignty, that Created Eve (dark)
to be the twin/reflection of her genetic tissue Donor, Adam (light).

Why ?

Because Adam could not be the supreme lawmaking authority.

Adam was restricted in power, at the moment he gave his covenant oath

to God (IHVH) concerning Eve :

23And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

At this moment, of Adam's covenant, he accepted Eve as a reflection of
self. And all responsibility of actions were shared, in their DNA.


As Eve (womb-man) was taken out of Man (Adam), both
the masculine/feminine duality of God (IHVH) was expressed
in this creation, of these two human beings.

However, neither man nor woman, were created with Sovereignty
to control themselves, as a god.


[The eating of the fruit, parallel . . . is another story for another day !]


And this quote is correct, Mysteryman :

But God also tells us, that the Church has authority over evil, the devil.


C7A . . . continues . . .


How ?

Bringing all things under the Sovereignty of God (IHVH)

. . . bringing the church (bride) under subjection to

Christ (bridegroom), bringing Satan under the authority of

the Bridegroom (Christ-Adam), so the Bride (Church-Eve),

sanctifies the covenant of the original MAP CODE

OF GENETIC-SPIRITUAL-unity.

WHAT UNITY ?

Adam ( light), his wife Eve (dark) unite to accomplish

in the book of Revelation, what they failed to accomplish

in the Garden of Eden.

Indeed, the serpent (devil/evil) does not have power over the
church (Bride/Eve), which will unite

with Christ (Bridegroom/Adam) . . .

And complete the original plan of God (IHVH).

This is why, Satan fights to divide husbands and wives.

Which parallel's Christ (bridegroom) from church (bride), to avenge

his (Satan) derailment of power . . .

he (Satan) seeks to prevent the original unity

becoming a reality.

Of course, Satan's game under prophecy is his

defeat and derailment of his spawned jealousy, toward

mankind's spiritual mission.

BE PREPARED, many are going to be deceived.

God (IHVH) accomplishes all . . . things . . .

Satan will take victims.

ARE you the reader, allowing yourself to be one
of the victims/casualties of Satan's war on mankind ?

All Satan has left, is to pick the bones of the infidel
and torment the Elect, until the bridegroom
unites with His five virgins . . .

The end, conclusion is a code inside the Garden of Eden !

Nicely said C7A

Lets look even a little deeper here. The first man Adam was 92 chromosomes - 46 pairs of. After God took a rib out of Adam, he then became 46 chromosomes - 23 pairs. And the woman became 23 pairs/46 total

God tells Adam and Eve to come back to together to be one again.

One of the mysteries within the Word of God, is 8 goes back to one. You divide a number by 7 and look for the remainder.

92 divided chromosomes , when the two become one is --> 92 divided by 7 and look for the remainder.

The remainder is - 1 -- One !

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM

Interesting, MM :


24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.


ONE = ALEPH

How have we become one flesh ?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph

In gematria, aleph represents the number 1, and when used at the beginning of Hebrew years, it means 1000





In Judaism
Aleph is the subject of a midrash which praises its humility in not demanding to start the Bible. (In Hebrew the Bible begins with the second letter of the alphabet, Bet.) In this folktale, Aleph is rewarded by being allowed to start the Ten Commandments. (In Hebrew, the first word is אָנֹכִי, which starts with an aleph.)

In the Sefer Yetzirah, The letter Aleph is King over Breath, Formed Air in the universe, Temperate in the Year, and the Chest in the soul.

Aleph is also the first letter of the Hebrew word emet, which means truth.

Aleph also begins the three words that make up God's mystical name in Exodus, I Am That I Am, (in Hebrew, 'Ehye 'Asher 'Ehye)





Hebrew saying with Aleph

From Aleph to Tav describes something from beginning to end; the Hebrew equivalent of the English From A to Z.



http://livingjourney.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/aleph.jpg

This understanding of the ONE/ALEPH . . . IS RELATED TO THE BOOK OF REVELATION :



[] Numeral

As a numeral it Olaf/Alap stands for the number one. With a dot below, it is the number 1,000, with a line above it, Olaf/Alap will represent 1,000,000. with a line below it is 10,000 and with two dots below it is 10,000,000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number

The aleph numbers differ from the infinity (∞) commonly found in algebra and calculus. Alephs measure the sizes of sets; infinity, on the other hand, is commonly defined as an extreme limit of the real number line (applied to a function or sequence that "diverges to infinity" or "increases without bound"), or an extreme point of the extended real number line.

A thousand years of man is as one day of the Lord.

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM

MM

Please continue on this theme and expound upon it : = Satan = she



(quote from MM)
The adversary of God is literally a -- female

God tells us in the church that we have power over the devil. The church , the body of Christ is a - female. God's Word tells us that a woman has no authority over a man. But God also tells us, that the Church has authority over evil, the devil. That is because the Devil, Satan - is - a - "she" !

I understand that throughout Scripture that "God uses gender" but what is your point? The serpent was a he and did not change in that form-
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
(The serpent was NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER and angel) Find me one place in the entire Bible that states this and I will happily stand down. This is where I see soooooo many people getting confused about in thinking that satan was an angel; when God CLEARLY say's BEAST of the FIELD and the field is what?
Matthew 13:38
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Ok you dont have to call him a angel,,,,,lets call him what he was,,,a cherub,,,,and that to me,,, would in fact,, seem more powerful then a angel anyway.....

So is the serpent; the king of Tyrus(or Tyre)? (This could very well be a great learning subject)

The whole Word of God is based upon male and female gender.

The man is the one in which God gives authority. That is because God represents himself as the one who is over all, in authority.

He in his authority is over Christ.

He in his authority is over all his creation.

The woman is to be in subjection unto the man, in a martial relationship.

The man of God is over the "church" the wife to Christ.

Everywhere in the Word of God, God gives us the image of himself in authority.

The church is the wife to Christ. Christ is the head of the wife, the church, the body of Christ. < - This "church" is called the "Church of God". God is "over" Christ . Christ is the head of the woman, the wife to Christ. We who are "IN Christ" are subject to Christ , our head. But Christ is subject to God, who is his head.

God gave the body of Christ "power" over the Devil/Satan, because she is a she, not a he ! God's Word never changes, thus, God gave power to the body of Christ < A woman, who is in subjection unto Christ, to have power to tell the woman Satan/Devil, to get thou behind me Satan, if need be. The wife of Christ, the woman to Christ, can never have authority over a man, or else the whole Word of God would contradict itself.

Christ could say unto them - "get thee behind me Satan", because he was a man, the Son of God. And God gave him this authority over the woman Satan/Devil. A man does not have authority over another man. Only and unless , a man of God is present with the autority of God. Even then, a man of God must allow God to show his authority over another man. A great example of this would be Saul and David in the OT. David could not excersise his God given authority over Saul. God had to take Saul out of the way. David could not ! And he did not ! Saul tried to excersise his own power over David, which was outside the bounderies of his authority under God. This is why God removed Saul, because he was not walking within the authority given him by God.

Nowhere within the scriptures is any authority given to a woman - never !

She must take authority over a man, in that she must deceive the man . If the man allows his deception, he will give his authority over to the woman. Another example of this would be Judah and Tamar. She dressed up as a harlot and deceived Judah. Judah allowed his deception because he acted with his own eyes , and the lust of the flesh.

So many people never look at the woman Bathshebah , the wife of Uriah. Most just look at David and his eyes for this woman. Ever hear the phrase, that if a woman says no, that means no ? She did not say - no ! She obviously said - yes. She became the mother of Solomon. But does God do anything to her ? Not directly, no. Indirectly, yes.

God punishes David, that there would be continuous wars because of his sin with Bathsheba. God held David responsible and thus his authority is the one that suffered. Of course we know, that David was a man after God's own heart. That is because he repented.

Even so, God still caused continuous wars unto David. And God would not allow him to build the house of God. He gave that authority unto the next King, which was the son of David, and his name was Solomon, the son of Bathsheba.

Even when there was no King of Israel, God still give authority to a man. God gave this authority to Barack in the book of Judges. Deborah was a prophetess - which is a mirror image of the body of Christ. Her authority was over those who were evil, but her authority was not over this man Barack, who God put in authority "for" Israel . (Notice, I said "for" and not "over" , because he was not their king.) He was however the four star general of the army. This would be the army of God, that God used against those who were evil unto Israel. Deborah never usurped her authority over Barack, she only encouraged him of the things God had already told him. She "comforted him" and "exhorted him". Women of today, are suppose to act exactly like Deborah , in that they are to comfort and exhort their man, as well as the man of God. Never, ever showing authority over either one of them.

But, because the Devil/Satan is a woman, God can give authority over her, by way of the woman, the body of Christ. A woman in the Word of God "can" have authority over another woman. A great example of this , would be Abram and Sari, for she had a handmaiden, and she was in authority over her.

The "whole" Word of God - is a "mirror image" of - "itself" !

Love IN Christ - Christ IN - MM

Now I'm REALLY confused MM.

You think man has authority over CHRIST???
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Are you confused?

MM, you are making an entirely new doctrine out of thin air!

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

The woman "must deceive the man"? Where is that in the Bible? Deceiving by the way; would actually be contradictory with what you're "preaching" because to deceive is to HAVE authority. Hello? What is going on with you and what in the WORLD are you reading that is not only tainting/clouding your perception but also your view of the Word of God?

You always seem to be confused, so why should that ever change ?

I said - God is the head of Christ. Christ is the head of the man.

Where is there any confusion ?

IN Christ - MM

WHEW! OK I see now! Very sorry. And no I'm actually not "alway's" confused; you just seem to go off the deep end with Scripture..you take Scripture to a level that is beyond simplicity. And THAT is why you confuse people, such as myself. And then...you'll say things like "you're not ready to learn any mysteries" ...

boy is this a stupid post,,,
I mean the devil a woman,,its almost laughable if it wasnt so sad .........

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son (it says son not daughter) of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (it says man not woman) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

4The waters made him (made him not her) great, the deep set him up on high with her rivers running round about his
(his not hers) plants, and sent her little rivers unto all the trees of the field.

5Therefore his (his not hers) height was exalted above all the trees of the field, and his (his not her) boughs were multiplied, and his (his not her) branches became long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth.

6All the fowls of heaven made their nests in his (his) boughs, and under his(his)branches did all the beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his (his) shadow dwelt all great nations.

7Thus was he fair in his (his) greatness, in the length of his branches: for his (his) root was by great waters.

8The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him (him) : the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his(his) branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him (him) in his beauty.

Now I could do this all day,,,it seems your problem with woman has taken a turn for the worse ,,,,Satan a chick yeah freakin right......He got Eve pregnent........

This entire topic is off base and it looks like the only mystery being shed is right back in the garden where Adam said this:
Genesis 3:12
And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Can you not even forgive the woman and repent rather than trying to subtly accuse her all over again... and then blame God because "thou gavest to be with me"??

Eve was the first under the transgression; she was NOT the deceiver.

Hosea 4:14
I will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people that doth not understand shall fall.

Well, after all....he's the man of mysteries....MysteryMan. With a name like that there should be nothing left to unveil in the Bible...such as, Satan is a female.

Well thats like the 3rd mistake Adam made in a short period of time,,,,,,He shouldnt have dumpted the problem on Eve and he shouldnt have hid,,,,,,,but to let another male enter into your wife,,,,is just %$@#! crazy.........

How many here know what a "she goat" is ?

Interestingly, A goat is either male or female

You have to gender specify !

What does a goat represent in the Word ? A - "she"

A male goat is called a "Ram" - Unless he is specifically called a - "he goat"

A "kid of a goat" within the Word, is an offspring of a goat (female).

So, when it says in the OT, that they took the blood of bulls and goats, it is saying that they took the blood of a male and a female.

In Numbers 7:16 it states - "one kid of the goats for a sin offering" < It means - the son of the female. Jesus Christ was the son of the female, for a sin offering.

With your physical eyes, when looking at a serpent, you can not tell if it is either male or female.

When the Word of God says - he, as in Genesis 3:1 - it is God leaving her in her deceiving state of being a he. He said, is the deception. God didn't deceive us by any means of the imagination by leaving this word "he" in there. It is left there for two reasons. 1. To show us the deception of the serpent
2. So that a man of God can reveal it unto the Church.

Love IN Christ - MM

What the heck are you talking about?????? It wasnt a literal serpent,,,,,havent you read revelation????

The - "Devil"

Is it a he devil or a she devil ?

With the word "Devil" you need to be gender specific.

What is a rabbit ?

Love IN Christ - MM

What is a wolf ?

And especially - What is a wolf in sheeps clothing ?

Love IN Christ - MM

I have already given you plenty of scripture that says Devil is a He,,,,,,,you aint gave me none that say Devil is a she,,,,I think this just goes back to you inferiority towards woman......

SO can u give me a scripture that emplys that satan is a female if you give me 1 I will give you ten that says male....

What is a wolf ? What is a rabbit ? What is a serpent ?

I already gave you enough scripture ! Now you show me where the Devil is a he ! Why do devils also believe and tremble ?

And do you know why Jesus said - "you are of your father the devil " ?

Or - "the children of the devil " ?

And what about this one - "stand against the - "whiles" - of the devil ?

Here is another - John 6:70 - "Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil ? " < I enjoy the understanding of this one ! It resinates truth.

By the way, I can count to ten !

IN Christ - MM

I don't give a rat's patootie what a rabbit, wolf, etc. are. It doesn't amount to a hill of beans MM and this is a really silly argument.

He, the devil, is both male and female in one. This is just as we will be when our flesh life passes. Angels are male and female in one and.....we are angels in a flesh body.

Wrong on "all" counts !

IN Christ - MM

He is our shepard and we are the "sheep"

Sheep is not gender specific !

Love IN Christ - MM

MM :


So weird, post #218 @

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...6&start=216


I thought I added/posted to this thread . . . so I did not ! I guess I was reading to many post
at the same time ! So, now my commentary to you MM, is at two threads !

Anyway, some of the research I presented @post #218 does support Satan either as
non-gender serpent or female.

Since I research under parallel comparisons of feminine/masculine . . . dark/light contrast
thinking . . . I am standing in the gray area on this . . . topic.

You MM, are not the only theology person to ponder the gender issue of Satan.


And according to the web links, which were only debate level that I did not post, however, I
was amazed how Jewish tradition is leaning toward your thoughts.

It is great we can study, and exchange ideas . . . no matter our differences . . .

We know he-she-it `gets IT` --------- IN THE END !

So . . . I find the topic interesting, due to knowing the results of the prophecy tied to SATAN.

Okay....believe whatever you want.

I saw your other post. As well as this one. In the end ! yup

Rev.16:18 - "And the "woman" which thou sawest (revealed to John ) is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth"

Rev. 17:2 - "habitation of devils, foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird"

Also read Rev. 17:3 - 8 & verse 20 & 21

This is not necessarily reproof, but I do not "ponder" anything when it comes to the Word of God.

Love IN Christ -- MM

Luke 2:19

King James Bible
But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.


This is what I meant by pondering !


And indeed, the masculine was the genetic seed of the feminine, in the donor tissue
of Adam, transfer to Eve.


And it makes parallel alignment, of this fact scripture you posted :

Rev.16:18 - "And the "woman" which thou sawest (revealed to John ) is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth"



I am off tomorrow and I will be watching for more on this GENDER topic.

Just a thought :


Adam reconciles with his shadow self, through 'the woman' (womb-man/Eve) . . . as
Christ, the last Adam . . . subjects the woman 'THE GREAT CITY' . . . to His authority sceptre !


Thank you, MM, for thought provoking discussion !

Everything in the Word of God pertaining to "whoring" is related to - Blasphemy, Idolatry, fornication.

The "great whore" was the "mother" of all these - Rev. 17:5

Rev. 18:20 - "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you "on her"

Rev. 18:24 - "And in "her" was found the blood of the prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth"

John 10:10 - "the thief cometh not, but for to steal, "kill" and destroy"

Rev. 19:1 - 3

1 - "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying , Al-le-luia ; Salvation, and glory, and honour , and power, unto the Lord our God"

2 - "For true and righteous are his judgements : for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand"

3 - "And again they said , Al-le-luia. And her smoke rose up "for ever and ever"

The "thief" , the "serpant" , the "Devil", the "Satan", is the great whore !

When God told the nation of Israel, that they went a whoring. God explains , that they went after other gods = Idolatry.

One of the reasons, that God took some of their names out of the book of life, is because they "blasphemed" the one true God.

Do not follow after - "her"

Follow after the "one" who called you - the One true God, our Father in heaven.

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM

MM :

Thought this art site may interest you ?

http://www.biblical-art.com/biblicalsubjec...9&pagenum=1

The Whore of Babylon
Revelation 17

Continuing on --

When gender is used throught the scriptures , there is a spiritual understanding attached to the specific gender that is within the comments or context of what is being spoken about.

For instance, God created Adam, then made the woman out of the man Adam.

In Genesis chapter one and in verse 28 It tells us that God blessed "them". Always ask yourself as to whom the "them" is , since there is only "one" man Adam. The "them" is the one man Adam , who was both male and female. God is not talking about two here, he is talking about two being in one. The one man Adam had "dominion" over. The woman who came out of man has dominion over the animals and the every living things "only" under the authority of the man Adam. She never has authority over the fish of the sea , or the fowl of the air, or every living creater. She never named one animal, or fish, or bird. God gave that responsibility to the man Adam. In fact, from this, we know that "she" did not name her own children. Adam did ! All she said, was that she got a man from the Lord. Or - "another "seed" from the Lord". She looked at it, as Seth being a replacement for Abel, whom Cain slew. She had two, then one, then two again. God named Adam, and Adam named the animals and the birds and his own children. I am sure that God had everything to do with the namings. Adam followed what God told him. The one thing he did not follow, was eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which the woman gave to him.

Man - male - represents - authority

Female - represents - being under authority/ or being under the one in authority.

In heaven, Lucifer was a male name, hence, one of authority. This authority was given to him by God. Instead of using his authority properly, he missused it.

Saying that the devil, which was called Lucifer in heaven, is a "she" is only in representation of one who is "under" authority.

A great example of this, is in the book of Job. God talks to the devil with authority, but the devil does not respond with authoritative replies. In fact the replies were submissive replies. Also, the replies were deceptive replies. Plain and simple "she" lied !

God "allowed" the devil to hurt Job, but the devil was not "allowed" to kill Job. This authority of God is "over" the devil. But remember, that God is a God that changes not ! No man of God is ever give authority over another man of God - Never !

So this authority over the devil would not line up with consistency if the devil was a male. But it does line up with consistency if "he" was a "she".

God threw Lucifer out of heaven and one third of the angels in heaven down to the depths of the earth. It was because of their rebellion against God. It was done with authority. The other angels fought agains Lucifer and his army, but there was not a winner. That is because God made them equal, and only God can remove that which he put into power. The same holds true with King Saul and King David. God removed Saul , not David. Even David had a prophet unto him , and his name was Nathan. Nathan, even being a prophet of God 'unto' David, did not have authority over David . God gave him revelation to reveal unto David that was "without" an athoritative message. It was only an revealing message, to show David, that God knew, and that God was in charge (authority).

Everything underneath God is under the power and authority of God.

There are "two" roles of authority. 1. Power of authority or 2. Submissive authority

One takes on the male gender and the other the female gender.

When God allows the devil to have certain authority it is "only" submissive authority. Thus rendering the devil's authority as being - female in gender.

The devil likes to lie, thus trying to get away with more authority than was given . This is a state of "self" and thus is rendered as a male gender authority. So when it says "he" pertaining to the devil, it is saying, that the devil game himself the authority to do something. God is the Father of all, and all means all, without exception. So how can the devil be a father ? In a truth, he/she can't ! When Jesus Christ said, that you are of your father the devil. Jesus was refering to the devil playing the role of a male gender authority. Those who "followed" the devil's way of thinking, which is to be decietful. A murderer, a blasphemer etc. Those ways are not the one true God's way. This is the devil trying to take on the authority of a male gender = Power of authority image.

But the truth is, that the devil is actually a "she" in "how" she brings this all about. The devil does this with "submissive authority". Which means, that what God allows, is only submissive authority. So what God allows the devil to be able to do or perform, only comes from a "submissive authority".

When Jesus kicked out devil spirits out of people they left crying like a woman. (Don't mean to offend, just pointing out the spiritual while visualizing the literal.)

A woman has the power of life and death, in that, she is carrying life, but she can abort that life, thus ending the life within her.

The devil is within the depths of the earth. If she aborts your life here on earth, she then ends your life. Thus, kill, steal and destroy - John 10:10

She is a whore, and she is the devil, and she is the mother of all harlots and abominations of the earth. She is going to be thrown into the lake of fire, which is also called the pit where the smoke rises out of for ever.

Gender tells us from a spiritual understanding, that her "authority" is only submissive authority. And she will have no authority over the man God almighty, because she "must" submit to the lake of fire !

Love IN Christ - MM

MM:


I posted this from April . . . for you to review :

Apr 23 2008, 06:43 PM
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=18549&hl=
Dna, Genetics, & God : Adam Being The Prototype Of A Fallen Race Of Mankind, Jesus being the prototype of a redeemed race of new creatures



Ok,


Here is my opinion of the infidel husband's (A Adam, not converted to the last man Adam, Christ)


An infidel husband, cannot hold authority over the daughter of God (IHVH).

The belief of authority that the infidel husband could guide the wife (Eve/daughter) and
children/family unto the foot of the cross . . . is false. The infidel is NOT sanctified, nor
blood atonement accepted.

This is why, divorce is so high.

The infidel husband, is not under the authority of the Lord . . . and cannot lead the
womb-man into the divine partnership created by God (IHVH), for a successful home
and community.

And this also applies to the womb-man (female/Eve archetype) that is also an infidel, is
without the anointing/covering of the Lord,
to stand in for her children's upbringing unto righteousness.


If both are infidel's . . . no wonder the offspring is so open to evil.

What is your belief about the authority over a womb-man of God (IHVH), in regard to
her having an infidel husband ?

Is God (IHVH) her covering ?


Or do you believe, her infidel husband still takes authority, although he is not under
the authority of the Lord ?

I Corinth. 7:14

The one believing is the one who sanctifies the one not believing.

IN Christ - MM

If the devil is a "he", then one would be able to find in the book of Revelation where it states that the devil is a "he".

It is nowhere to be found !

Rev. 20:10 tells us that the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone , and the beast and false prophet shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Notice in the verse above, the beast and false prophet and the devil. We know who the devil is by reading Rev. chapter 18 and chapter 19 and verse 3. "And "her" smoke rose up for ever and ever"

"Her" - "she" - the great whore - is the devil !

Love IN Christ - Christ IN - MM

MM :

I have read and heard this preached many times !


1:
MY QUESTION IS, the phrase ' only in the Lord ' ? . . . means Christian, non-infidel, right ?

2:
Who is the head of the single woman, who never marries ? If Adam/man is her keeper,
who keeps her, if she does not marry ?

3:
And how does a Christian woman, allow a infidel husband who is a drunk, womanizer, etc. to
be her Head above her, in her Christian decisions ?

4:
How does a liar, adulterer, thief, become Head of a Christian female and her home ?

That is like having Satan, being your head.

He is the father of lies, the father of all temptation & lust.



Below, I get.

So please answer the specific questions I have labeled 1,2,3,4 . . .

Thank you !



http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/oracles4th/1cor.html

39.--A wife is bound, as long as her husband lives; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she pleases; only in the Lord. But she is happier, if she continue as she is. This is my opinion; and I think I have the Spirit of God.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...&version=9;

10And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

12But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

13And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

15But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

16For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?

17But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Yeah,,,, but the Devil aint in Chirst so what is he???????

Answer: THIS IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION, WITH A SIMPLE ANSWER. SHE ALLOW IT ! SHE DID NOT SEEK A MAN WITH THE LORD AS HER GUIDE. NOR DID SHE SEEK OUT SPIRITUAL GUIDEANCE FROM A MAN OF GOD BEFORE MARRYING HIM. SHE ALLOWED THE SITUATION TO BECOME MANIFESTED, BECAUSE OF HER LACKING WITHIN HER SPIRITUAL WALK !

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM


Thank you, and I agree with this excerpt.

And I appreciate the commentary on the other question's I posed.

One more thing ?

QUESTION ?

WHAT IF THE WOMAN IS A PROPHET ?

P.S.
I must make sure that you know MM, that many people are very confused on this subject.
And I feel responsible to ask straightforward questions and you have answered with
integrity.

I would like to state at this time, that I hold my own belief system in these matters. However,
the Pentecostal faith teaches these similar principles, including a woman being a prophet.


Now, back to your teachings :

Gender, God uses gender throughout His Word

Hi C7A

Can a woman be a Prophet ?

You asked, "what if a woman is a Prophet" ?

The simple answer is - no - she can not be a prophet.

Still dealing with gender - a - Prophet - is a man ---- A prophetess is a woman

A Prophet brings forth a message from and for God.

A Prophetess, brings forth a message from or for God , that the prophecy has already been given, either unto the man, or of a man of God.

As you know, Deborah was a "prophetess", not a Prophet.

She then can only "repeat" the prophecy that has already been given.

Deborah never gave Barack any "new" revelation. She only repeatd what the revealing had already been given. In this case, the revealing had already been given unto Barack. Barack was not totally convinced, and God needed to use the prophetess to convince this man Barack that God wanted him to go to war and that God would be with him.

Another example would be in the gospels, the woman whose name was Anna.

We pick up the record in Luke chapter 2

In Luke 2:25 - A man named "Simeon", who had the Spirit of God upon him. < This man, who had the Spirit of God upon him, shows us, that he was a Prophet of God.

Verse 26 tells us of the revealing unto him.

Verse 27 tells us that he came into the temple "by the Spirit of God. Which means that God told him to go into the temple

Verse 28 tells us that Simeon, the Prophet, took the child Jesus in his arms, and bless him, and in verses 29 & 30 & 31 & 32 he prophesied of him.

Verse 33 tells us that Mary and Joseph marvelled of these words spoken over the child.

Verse 34 tells us the Simeon blessed them (Mary and Joseph) and again prophesied "of" the child. The prophecy continues on in verse 35 .

Then in Verse 36 we find out about Anna. In verse 37 we find out that she was in the temple day and night. So she was there "when" Simeon prophised over the child Jesus. She "heard" the words of the Prophet Simeon.

She was a widow, and a prophetess, who repeated what the Prophet Simeon had said. We find this record starting in verse 38 which tells us that she came in, in that instant. Which means, the instant that Simeon prophesied over the child Jesus. She gave thanks "likewise" unto the Lord. An act of agreeing with. It goes on to say in verse 38 that she "spake" of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem. She being a prophetess of God, only "repeated" the words spoken by the Prophet Simeon.

Because the Word of God does not contradict itself in any way. All prophetesses do "likewise" within the whole Word of God.

Christ is The Prophet, and the body of Christ is the prophetess. The prophetess can only repeat what the Prophet (head) has said. If she speaks of her own, instead of him who is over her. She then is not in fellowship , nor being under her head - Christ, who is the Prophet from and of God.

A prophetess "only" comforts and edifies, and exhorts. These are the very words used throughtout the scriptures pertaining to a prophetss. Even Paul teaches us this in I Corinth. 14:3 as concerning those who prophesy from within the body of Christ.

God Bless

Love IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM

Christ came to full-fill the law, not destroy the law.

The day of Pentecost, is a full-fill-ment of Joel. And indeed, womb-man does prophesy.
And indeed, the latter rain will give forth the 5-fold ministry, which will be in alignment
with Joel of the Old Testament, started in Acts the New Testament :


18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

IN THOSE DAYS, WHAT DAYS ? ANSWER, ' before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord '.

And the Lord, did not come at Pentecost, the Holy Ghost came.

So both men and womb-man will prophesy.

Acts 2

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%202
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: "Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.'[c]

Yes, woman do prophesy. But "never" as a Prophet.

You declared, the words - "In those days" (pertianing to the prophecy in Joel) - pertaining to the day of pentecost. True, I agree, but the words spoken were words of comfort and edification and exhortation. The words spoken on the day of Pentecost , were the words of a prophetss, not a Prophet. Men spoke them, but the words spoken were not the words of a Prophet ! Joel spoke the words of a Prophet, words that would come true. Words from God and of God, that was future. Thus, t