QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 16 2008, 12:06 AM)

I agree with you Humble Bob. And see the problem is taking the Scriptures out of context and we all do this sometimes, we jump the gun per say or jump to our own conclusions without rubbing our eyes and cleaning the dust out of our ears and just reading exactly what the Scriptures say and here is what He say's about the mark:
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
I underlined two very important points to pay attention to: he causeth and to receive. There's no force there it's more like a cause and effect if anything. It's more like a gentle and subtle way of getting masses of people to worship another other than the Living God Yahweh. It's like if I tricked you into something, I'd be considered the 'causer' and if you fell for it, you'd be considered the 'receiver'..you know what I mean?
Right hand is interesting if you study the meaning in Scriptures, it's an authority position for one, meaning if I continually worship Yahshua, He is my guide, my authority, in other words, He is in my right hand, He is my trust and my foundation. Forehead is another in depth study in Scriptures as well
Jeremiah 3:3
Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.
Isn't that significant! Prominence and proud, like an exalted horn coming out of the forehead, but actually it's a behaviour coming out of the mind, a refusal to humble oneself in obedience to the Word of Yahweh.
I used to be so scared about those rfid chips and stuff like that and I would even say, I'd cut off my hand if someone forced one of those in me. But then I thought...they can force a million of those things in my head and hand, is that something that would prevent Yahshua from loving me or from me worshiping Him??? No. So again, it's conspiracy, false prophecy and fear mongering, all the tactics of those who refuse to believe in the Truth. Word for Word.
I very much agree. The great tribulation will be a time of deception. I continue to see the mark as believing in the deception but if it is a literal chip...it can't be forced. Christ tells us those that "
take the mark" will experience His wrath. There has to be a decision in
taking it.
Will the deception be part of offering money, shelter and food if the chip is taken? Probably. Will it be security and perhaps even patriotism. Probably. I think although those are possibilities it could be love of Christ that makes one take it. As we are speaking of the time Satan will be deceiving the world by pretending to be Christ it must be tied into worship of him....the fake. Out of love, as they will believe it is Christ, Christians will line up to willingly take the mark to show their love for him. They are those that are being misled or simply not taught. They instead look for a rapture. Perhaps that is what will be promised....once the chip is taken?
So, I don't believe it will be a forced issue but rather one of selection by the individual. But, that is something the elect must avoid. Be prepared. Know who the first one really is. Wait for the true Savior. Prepare your mind, body and spirit. It is only a five month period and individually some of us will face no more than ten days....there is no doubt we can and will endure.
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake: but HE THAT SHALL ENDURE UNTO THE END, the same shall be saved.