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If you are college or university educated, you have undoubtedly been taught that humanity originated through the theoretical process called evolution. But the educated of this world in nearly all cases have been taught only one side of the subject of origins—the theory of evolution. On the contrary, most of those lacking higher education in the United States “Bible Belt,” for example, have been taught only, and accepted without proof, the teaching that the Bible is indeed the very Word of God.
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Hi, 'jbolano'.
I agree in almost every respect with this article. The bits I find 'ify' dont matter.....are of no consequence.
The work is good and well directed and I have been there too.
But.....not enough is said about humbling yourself to the almighty G-d of Isreal who gave us his Son to free us from our sinfulness.
Not enough said about ...... just repent! give it up! Accept the gift of forgiveness!
(You have to drop your pride and accept that you are a sinner and ask for forgiveness in Jesus' name and be born again.)
'Tomorrows world' (From the 'Plain Truth') does great work for those who want to know all of this stuff but they do not push the fact enough that knowledge will not save you.....Repentance will, and only through Jesus can that be done.
Thanks for the really great article. I know this will be read closely by many and it answers a lot of questions.
G-d Bless. Meshuganah
I agree in almost every respect with this article. The bits I find 'ify' dont matter.....are of no consequence.
The work is good and well directed and I have been there too.
But.....not enough is said about humbling yourself to the almighty G-d of Isreal who gave us his Son to free us from our sinfulness.
Not enough said about ...... just repent! give it up! Accept the gift of forgiveness!
(You have to drop your pride and accept that you are a sinner and ask for forgiveness in Jesus' name and be born again.)
'Tomorrows world' (From the 'Plain Truth') does great work for those who want to know all of this stuff but they do not push the fact enough that knowledge will not save you.....Repentance will, and only through Jesus can that be done.
Thanks for the really great article. I know this will be read closely by many and it answers a lot of questions.
G-d Bless. Meshuganah
Ever read the "Epic of Gilgamesh"? It is proof that the Bible (old testament) stories were taken from old tales and myths and altered to fit peoples own religious agenda. Sorry but true.
But there is a God and God is for everyone. Just not the type of God the Bible depicts.
Love and Light!
But there is a God and God is for everyone. Just not the type of God the Bible depicts.
Love and Light!
Someone once said, "Those that see God somewhere see him everywhere."
The Epic of Gilgamesh and those like it are found in virtually every culture and is solid proof of a universal flood acccount. It amazes me that one can stare such evidence in the face and still claim that it is proof to the contrary!!!
Am I to beleive that if there were no flood accounts anywhere in the world other than the bible than the agnostics would believe! I think not!
How willfully blind and deserving of God's righteous wrath!
Romans 1:18 God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known.
Rom 1:19 God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain.
Rom 1:20 Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!
Rom 1:21 They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness.
Rom 1:22 They say they are wise, but they are fools;
Rom 1:23 instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortals or birds or animals or reptiles.
Rom 1:24 And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other.
Rom 1:25 They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever! Amen.
Rom 1:26 Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts.
Rom 1:27 In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.
Rom 1:28 Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do the things that they should not do.
Rom 1:29 They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip
Rom 1:30 and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God, insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents;
Rom 1:31 they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others.
Rom 1:32 They know that God's law says that people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only do they continue to do these very things, but they even approve of others who do them.
The Epic of Gilgamesh and those like it are found in virtually every culture and is solid proof of a universal flood acccount. It amazes me that one can stare such evidence in the face and still claim that it is proof to the contrary!!!
Am I to beleive that if there were no flood accounts anywhere in the world other than the bible than the agnostics would believe! I think not!
How willfully blind and deserving of God's righteous wrath!
Romans 1:18 God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known.
Rom 1:19 God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain.
Rom 1:20 Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!
Rom 1:21 They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness.
Rom 1:22 They say they are wise, but they are fools;
Rom 1:23 instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortals or birds or animals or reptiles.
Rom 1:24 And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other.
Rom 1:25 They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever! Amen.
Rom 1:26 Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts.
Rom 1:27 In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.
Rom 1:28 Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do the things that they should not do.
Rom 1:29 They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip
Rom 1:30 and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God, insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents;
Rom 1:31 they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others.
Rom 1:32 They know that God's law says that people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only do they continue to do these very things, but they even approve of others who do them.
QUOTE(Shekel @ Nov 9 2005, 11:51 PM)
Someone once said, "Those that see God somewhere see him everywhere."
The Epic of Gilgamesh and those like it are found in virtually every culture and is solid proof of a universal flood acccount. It amazes me that one can stare such evidence in the face and still claim that it is proof to the contrary!!!
Am I to beleive that if there were no flood accounts anywhere in the world other than the bible than the agnostics would believe! I think not!
How willfully blind and deserving of God's righteous wrath!
Romans 1:18 God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known.
Rom 1:19 God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain.
Rom 1:20 Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!
Rom 1:21 They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness.
Rom 1:22 They say they are wise, but they are fools;
Rom 1:23 instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortals or birds or animals or reptiles.
Rom 1:24 And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other.
Rom 1:25 They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever! Amen.
Rom 1:26 Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts.
Rom 1:27 In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.
Rom 1:28 Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do the things that they should not do.
Rom 1:29 They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip
Rom 1:30 and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God, insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents;
Rom 1:31 they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others.
Rom 1:32 They know that God's law says that people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only do they continue to do these very things, but they even approve of others who do them.
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The Epic of Gilgamesh and those like it are found in virtually every culture and is solid proof of a universal flood acccount. It amazes me that one can stare such evidence in the face and still claim that it is proof to the contrary!!!
Am I to beleive that if there were no flood accounts anywhere in the world other than the bible than the agnostics would believe! I think not!
How willfully blind and deserving of God's righteous wrath!
Romans 1:18 God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known.
Rom 1:19 God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain.
Rom 1:20 Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!
Rom 1:21 They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness.
Rom 1:22 They say they are wise, but they are fools;
Rom 1:23 instead of worshiping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortals or birds or animals or reptiles.
Rom 1:24 And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other.
Rom 1:25 They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever! Amen.
Rom 1:26 Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts.
Rom 1:27 In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.
Rom 1:28 Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do the things that they should not do.
Rom 1:29 They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip
Rom 1:30 and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God, insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents;
Rom 1:31 they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others.
Rom 1:32 They know that God's law says that people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only do they continue to do these very things, but they even approve of others who do them.
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Here is a link to the Gilgamesh epoch. Interesting reading!
It is quite similar to the bible account of the Flood, which is what we would expect to find if the Flood account of the bible were indeed true, which it is! For of course such a monumental event such as the flood would set in motion a great many records of it happening, whose accuracy would be dependent on how long oral tradition occurred before it was written down. The bible also tells us that men were dispersed throughout the earth at the Tower of Babel. This, too, would have enduced a great number of records affected by time and race and developing religious beliefs. But they all share one common truth, the flood as described in the bible. (There are also many creation accounts as well. So God is not without witness even in lands where there is no bible, just as the quoted portion out of the book of Romans says. "But men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil," Jesus said.
)http://www.mythome.org/gilgamesh11.html
Herbert W Armstrong........When I was a kid I heard his broadcasts and found them interesting.... Why would you spend so much effort and money, and not mention the most important thing? It was a long time before I came full circle and realised what was required of me and what Jesus suffered and why!
The "Plain Truth' was interesting but it KEPT ME AWAY from the plain truth.
Be careful not to be decieved!
Meshuganah
The "Plain Truth' was interesting but it KEPT ME AWAY from the plain truth.
Be careful not to be decieved!
Meshuganah
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