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Earendel
It seems some people do not understand this; I will try and explain it so it is easy to understand.

The power of sin is in the Law, and the wages of sin is death...for through the Law, I have knowledge of sin and sinned revived and I died.

But the law has no power over me now...because I have no sin...and because I have no sin, I am not under the law
If I had sin, the law would have power over me, and I would be under the law.

Now this is the key to understanding this: How do I have no sin? Jesus nailed my sins to the cross and this is called grace; (I am under Grace)therefore, I have no more sins before God, and I am completely made righteous before the throne of God, and being made free from sin through the cross of Christ, I have peace with God the Father. This is the righteousness which is by faith. Do you understand? I am sin free before God because Jesus took away my sins, and where there is no sins, the righteousness that the law requires is fullfilled.

Now does this mean I do not have to have good works? ...of course not!! How shall we who have been freed from sin live any longer there in! God shall enable us to live free from sin in our lives:

Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

(meaning God will enable us to live holy with good works!) My body is physically the Temple of the Holy Spirit...meaning a part of me is God. I have His seed born into my spirit (the holy of holies is the place of His residence which is my heart...and I love Him so) which grows and brings forth fruit unto righteousness (righteous works), but but the Spirit, I serve God...inwardly which manifests outwardly through righteous works. And every day is Holy and is the sabbath...Jesus my rest...because He is within me...flesh of my flesh and bones of my bones...I am His physical body on Earth as are others too (We are the Body of Christ)! We live every day in holiness to God...for without holiness, no one shall see Him.
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Grace, no yoke of bondage

~thou Shalt~ :prophecy(tau)400,pentenance (samekh)60,, Providence(Lamed)30,
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After Christ crucifixation, resurrection, we are no longer under the
old law (yoke of bondage ). We are under : GRACE


[ grace is understood with the 38, date 06-22-2008, of the 8888, Tau cross, Sovereignty of God(IHVH), dream ] :
http://dnascienceconstructspathtogod.blogs...reignty-of.html



(thank you Richard, for this profound web link on Grace)
http://biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Grace.asp



The following two commandments, enforced by Christ himself,
are under ' Thou Shalt '. A no yoke of bondage, based upon LOVE.


() The two commandments are ---> "thou shalt" <-- no yoke of bondage ! Based upon "Love"


() The ten commandments state --> "thou shalt not" <-- that is indeed a yoke of bondage !




Romans 6:14 - "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are NOT under the law, but under GRACE"


Matthew 22: 40 “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”



Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’ 38 “This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 “The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ 40 “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
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2 Corinthians 3
ozell


Jesus said

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jesus is the one who created Paul.

so Paul the created knew that the creator Jesus commandments are Good,LONG AFTER Jesus death and rising.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

yet the creator Jesus was asked by the created rich man

Mt 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19: Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20: The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21: Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22: But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

the creator Jesus told the created man if you will enter into life keep the commandments, yet the created man was already alive, so Jesus the creator spoke of another life that the created man must enter.

let see the created man entering into the life the creator Jesus spoke of.

the creator Jesus said blessed are they that DO his commandments

Rv 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15: For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

notice those that blessed that are under grace is not mentioned.

Grace has always been around because Jesus has always been around

Grace is upon the righteous as well as the wicked.
Earendel
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 25 2008, 09:17 PM) *
Jesus said

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.


the creator Jesus said blessed are they that DO his commandments


Grace is upon the righteous as well as the wicked.




You just don't understand Ozel, and you are not teachable.

Jesus said to keep the commandments during His ministry on Earth, as it was neccessary for Him to fulfill all righteousness and to be sin free.
This was said before He offered up Himself as a sacrifice for sin, and He became sin for us and nailed it to the cross. Having removed the partiton between the Father and His elect, He did put away sin and as a consequence death lost its sting. The law of God as given through Moses did not carry over into Church, else we would still be offering up lambs as a sacrifice for sins...Where there is no sin, the righteousness that the law requires is fulfilled. Why is this so hard for you to understand, or do you always have to be right. You therefore do greatly err.

You know. if you want to keep the Law you are indebted to keep the whole law...ALL OF IT! Are you sacrificing up lambs for the remission of your sins Ozel? Are you? Are you keeping the Law??? Are you?? You are indebted to kepp THE WHOLE LAW!! ...Right? Or do you just select what you want, and discard what you don't want?
Earendel
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 25 2008, 09:17 PM) *
Jesus said

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.


the creator Jesus said blessed are they that DO his commandments


Grace is upon the righteous as well as the wicked.




You just don't understand Ozel, and you are not teachable.

Jesus said to keep the commandments during His ministry on Earth, as it was neccessary for Him to fulfill all righteousness and to be sin free.
This was said before He offered up Himself as a sacrifice for sin, and He became sin for us and nailed it to the cross. Having removed the partiton between the Father and His elect, He did put away sin and as a consequence death lost its sting. The law of God as given through Moses did not carry over into Church, else we would still be offering up lambs as a sacrifice for sins...Where there is no sin, the righteousness that the law requires is fulfilled. Why is this so hard for you to understand, or do you always have to be right. You therefore do greatly err.

You know. if you want to keep the Law you are indebted to keep the whole law...ALL OF IT! Are you sacrificing up lambs for the remission of your sins Ozel? Are you? Are you keeping the Law??? Are you?? You are indebted to keep THE WHOLE LAW!! ...Right? Or do you just select what you want, and discard what you don't want?
Earendel
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 25 2008, 09:17 PM) *
Jesus said

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.


the creator Jesus said blessed are they that DO his commandments


Grace is upon the righteous as well as the wicked.




You just don't understand Ozel, and you are not teachable.

Jesus said to keep the commandments during His ministry on Earth, as it was neccessary for Him to fulfill all righteousness and to be sin free.
This was said before He offered up Himself as a sacrifice for sin, and He became sin for us and nailed it to the cross. Having removed the partiton between the Father and His elect, He did put away sin and as a consequence death lost its sting. The law of God as given through Moses did not carry over into Church, else we would still be offering up lambs as a sacrifice for sins...Where there is no sin, the righteousness that the law requires is fulfilled. Why is this so hard for you to understand, or do you always have to be right. You therefore do greatly err.

You know. if you want to keep the Law you are indebted to keep the whole law...ALL OF IT! Are you sacrificing up lambs for the remission of your sins Ozel? Are you? Are you keeping the Law??? Are you?? You are indebted to keep THE WHOLE LAW!! ...Right? Or do you just select what you want, and discard what you don't want?
ozell

QUOTE
You just don't understand Ozel, and you are not teachable.

Jesus said to keep the commandments during His ministry on Earth, as it was neccessary for Him to fulfill all righteousness and to be sin free.
This was said before He offered up Himself as a sacrifice for sin, and He became sin for us and nailed it to the cross. Having removed the partiton between the Father and His elect, He did put away sin and as a consequence death lost its sting. The law of God as given through Moses did not carry over into Church, else we would still be offering up lambs as a sacrifice for sins...Where there is no sin, the righteousness that the law requires is fulfilled. Why is this so hard for you to understand, or do you always have to be right. You therefore do greatly err.

You know. if you want to keep the Law you are indebted to keep the whole law...ALL OF IT! Are you sacrificing up lambs for the remission of your sins Ozel? Are you? Are you keeping the Law??? Are you?? You are indebted to keep THE WHOLE LAW!! ...Right? Or do you just select what you want, and discard what you don't want?


long after Jesus death and resurrection, and I stress long after.

Paul wrote

Rom 7

6; But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7: What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8: But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9: For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10: And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11: For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

and he wrote

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

and Paul continued to write

Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10: Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

and I could continue with John the revealer speaking on keeping the Laws of God, Long after, I mean long after Jesus died and rose.


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