Just my 2 cents worth..

One of our problems is that people are talking about two many different things.

Another problem is. that there are to many different topics posted about the same thing.

For instance...I started a topic entitled Olympics 2008..I'm not sure why but other topics sprung up about the same thing so our posts and ideas where scattered all over the forum. This has been going on almost since the beginning of the forum. When l moderated Dean had suggested we consolidate.

We need to make moderation easier, not harder, by cooperating in this regard.

Another problem l see on this forum is the name changes. I don't know who l'm talking to anymore. I personally think it's dishonest.

Owe up to what you say or don't say it. I have some really embarrassing posts on this forum.
But oh well..who am l anyway? Nobody. I've grown and changed...for the better l believe. And anybody who really wants to know can go back and see how l've changed. It's a good thing not a bad thing.

Poor Larry...I will use you as an example

Larry has changed his name so many times...but you know what? His testimony of where he was and where God is taking him is really interesting..and encouraging. By changing his name we've missed a lot.
God has spoken through him many times...his flesh has spoken
and possibly other not so clean things have spoken through him...
me too...but l owe up to it.

One of the reasons l don't like to post as much is because many of you aren't honest and humble about what God is bringing you through. .. and frankly... l'm confused about who most of you are.

Let me say one last thing.. there is way to much arguing in the flesh here. Don't you know it makes people change the channel...Personal petty bantering...boy it's getting old. And topics started about the same old fights. Good grief..drop it already.

Here's a suggestion...when someone starts in this way, just walk away. Don't talk to the person.
By talking you keep it going. (I'm talking about personal things).

Why don't we all turn over a new leaf...speaking up when someone is selling a different gospel and not speaking when to much flesh enters the conversation.

Let's try to respect who's already talking by joining in and not start so many different strings.

If you think something is evil..make it known and back away after you've thoroughly made your point.

And I think you have much wisdom that comes from you Miki. I agree with everything you said.

I mainly used to use my sn ..... happy2Bfree...but found that someone was also using it and posting my name along with it for some bad things....so I only use that name once in awhile.

Geat advice Miki! I have said some of the very things lately. This has gotten entirely out of hand around here. The situation is sad. I agree.... if you have something to say... say it.... but as I said a day or two ago we are not the Holy Spirit. Only the Lord can draw and cause a person to repent or open eyes or change a heart. The enemy is looking on and laughing I am sure. Now things have escalated so far beyond where they needed to go and I pray some horrible things do not result. Yet I know that even still..... Nothing is impossible with God!

I have seen Him do more in 5 minutes by the Holy Spirit and Prayer than 1000's of Words in my own effort. I am praying that God would restore and bring Healing to this place.

Choose you this day whom you shall serve! If God be for us.... then who shall be against us! Choose LIfe.... the abundant life!

In Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

Amen Miki...

I could not agree more!

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post number 11.

Cut and paste the pertinent...

like I was a mock up store front in a grade B western

In the course of the accusations that have been biased by any number of "oneupsmanship" powerplays, I have also stood accused of secret and hidden agendas and a form of abuse of my own making in that I have changed my screen name several times. I power pointed all of that in another place but just to reserve judment there are certain fleeting occasions where what appears to be an insurgency directed to defer some kind of recrimination of self, one behaves in a way which tends to give creedence to the very charges one is refuting. Name changes on forums seem to have that effect. For no one else can know the inner workings of what may be a deep held secret, or nothing more than a need to refresh one's position. I maintain that forum names often reveal a heart. I find it to be so time and again. Sometimes that revelation is easily discerned and other times it is not. There are ways in which steadfastness in a name which remains unchanged sends a statement of it's own. I would say Miki is one such. One does not want to appear as a chamelion standing in a place with a new name that hides one while standing in front of a coloured background. If I had it to do again I would have chosen a name and kept it throughout. For I had not given deep thought to the message it sends. But then it comes to a point of deference in which that reputation has been ingrained and whatever "harm" has been done cannot be undone, and any future such "harm" is lost in the backdrop of the past. That is saying, subsequent name changes have no real ability to further deepen the already scarred profile. In a limited way, it is like why if one were to be a murderer, any subsequent murder you commit makes you no more of a murderer...it just adds to the fact you are a murderer. I have heard it said that once one has murdered another person, it gets easier each time to murder again.

So for the record as best as I can remember I have staged my profile under sundry aliases over multiple years. About 6 or so. My profile show less but there was some kind of change that eliminated further back. Whosoever, boanerges, fervent, maz, inspired. Tomcat trumpeted that far and wide because of my prophetic affilations, it was to him sublime evidence that added weight to his demand that I be sanctioned for sham and trickerey and sordidness in a vote of non confidence that proclaimed me as a false teacher and a false prophet and a false everything...he treated me like I was a mock up store front in a grade B western. And I in part brought that upon myself. I would not have made room for any of that if I were not so naieve at the outset. For all the appearances and rhetoric of words, I am basically a common man and I drive a common van and my dog ain't got no pedigree. Because internet anonymity allows for subterfuge, it is not only allowed, it is expected and perhaps even condoned. It is perceived as a right of passage perhaps. But I have been one who wears my heart on my sleeve throughout my entire life. As a lost and unsaved wretch and as one who has come under the umbrella of God. Being like that does a lot of things. It sends a message of openess to a degree. But it also sends a message of a vacuous nature. It gives folks a right to speak into your life. That is what communications does. Once you share a thing with some one there is an inferred right granted to another person to stand in line to give voice and opinion. That very thing is demonstrated in the book of Job. But i was not smart enough to know these things. And now that I know them I am still not smart enough to apply them. It has made a travesty of my persona in so doing. And if I could, I would hide under a rock and be seen no more. But one has to go on because one has no choice. One faces the fact that one has created his own rocky riverbed and the flow that agitates that bed is set in motion by one's own candor or lack therof that was meant to explain an honest heart, but because strangers do not approach one in the same vane, it gets misread as an agenda ridden imprecation of all things human and divine.

I don't know where all that came from. Is it dirty laundry? Is it exposing an agenda? Is it just being honest? Is it cannon fodder for those who want to destroy me? I guess time and the world will be the judge. For I am not in control of any of that and I have less control of it the more I give voice to my eruditions....

Being a man of many words, I could have remembered a bumper sticker I saw in a store way back when I was mere lad...."Even a fish would stay out of trouble if he kept his mouth shut."

See how wise I am? I trap myself in a coffin of my own making. I buy the shovel and supply the graveyard. I pay the undertaker and give an offeratory and choose the hymn for my own funeral

I think I am in for one more name change when it can be done... a waiting period...It will be simply Larry. It would serve me well. It is who I really am. Meaning Laurel crowned. No more appearance of evil. If I am inspired or if I am not that is detailed in my posts. As Miki has said, I can be a work of flesh or a work of Spirit. That is my choice and the Lord's admonition. I applaud Miki for being frank and right.

Oh Miki how I agree with you. I have notice so many names changes thst I dont know who is who any more. I cant help but wonder WHY? This may or may not be the reason but when I look at people changing their names and coming back on her under a different name, I think, up to no good. I have watch this so so much the last year or so and now it is a lot worse. I look at it like you are a trouble maker and a lier because something is wrong. To me I just dont feel anything when I read a post they write.
I think we need to get back to the basic of being a Christian and stop betending to know more than every one else. Stops threats. Remember God did not tell one person something and no one else in the world. Would we curse our children, no. So dont expect God to curse us. People that will do this needs our prayer. DONT FOLLOW PEOPLE. FOLLOW GOD FOLKS.

I agree Miki, we should love one another. Difficult times are coming and already starting for some. We need to stand together, in love and encouragement. There are many on this forum, that have given me great encouragement when I was facing difficult circurmstances, they know who they are, they are rich towards God. I love them and God does too.

my advice keep a tab on the ones changing their names i have not been hear long to see what gone on in the past but since i have been hear i have observed this too i have nothing to hide so i wil not change my usser name i could have came up with a fancy name but decided to stick to the nick name the young people gave me which is damo i put 7 on the end due to not being able to put damo



i have tho wokken up to the trouble makkers and its not hard to spot them just like with whats happening in one topic now i decided to but heads for my reason as that topic should have been shut down its like days of our lives


i sort off look at the usser name and look at what the person leavs this sort of gives me and idea who they are


when i was living on the street i had to become street wize i sort of learnt to study peopl and could tel if some one was up to no good


yes we need to be alert and we need to keep our eyes on God


he will sort out the trouble makers


i cant see how demons can get loose in cyberland its the flesh that does the damage not satans demons

boy they must be good if they can travel by the cables and then end up in forums like this


you cry wolf long enough guess what you start believing its the enemy at work and no longer see the ones you communicate with as human beings you think everyone is working for the enemy


do what i do pray over your selves put on gods armor when you wake up and when you sign off pray over your self


God bless from damo

I am being honest in this post and I am allowed my opinion; am I not?

If I were not already a Christian and reading some of the below the belt digs aimed at certain posters, I would pack up my computer and run for the hills. I wouldn't want to be joining in on any of those hurtful games that you Christians seem to enjoy playing.

This week there are only a couple of people I really trust in this forum family. This week I have learned that PM's and e-mails will and shall be used against you when you stand in disagreement on this forum. I have learned to trust less. I have learned to use my ignore button in order to refrain from responding to a poster that appeared to want a cat fight. I am learning how to post objectively. And yes, I can forgive but my level of trust shall never be the same.

I have learned who were the strong Christians as opposed to the babes. I have learned that snide remarks and petty comments can not hurt me physically but they will leave a layer of protection around my heart so the hurt of those comments can't be felt as sharply.

And I am learning that before anything else, I am a Child of God. All allegiance and loyalty goes to our Lord.

Gods Blessings,

Al

So Al can have her own opinions but other's can't? Hm... something wrong with that.

Goodbye Al, Goodbye Chloe. Put on some soothing music, it'll help!

Goodbye Rose.

And go listen to your Josh Groban and tell yourself in the mirror again....."I am a good person, I am forgiven, today is a NEW day".

Then I think you need to go get some serious help.

Goodbye Chloe.

Ohhhh....

You must miss me already. Parting is such sweet sorrow?

Goodbye Rose.

Excuse me, that was KIM you were talking to.

nope, don't miss you.

Goodbye Chloe.

Oh, good catch... I guess we ALL make mistakes.. lol

Dont stop trusting ever. We know we trust everyone but we can trust other Christians and we need this. We are in the last hours here on this earth so yes expect things to get worse but never give up on real Christians. We are one in Christ. YES you are a child of God.

Praying over this thread and the others that are hurting people


In Jesus name
amen

I learned this very lesson the hard way from this forum a few years back. People do not realize that the games they are playing have REAL and sometimes lasting effects....

What some people think as funny or think that just because there is a crowd gathered around to watch the fight, that it must be okay to do....

The effects is a lost of trust because you no longer know who to trust....

Nope...not Kim. That was for you.

And when people make mistakes....and repent (if it's not fake) they don't come back around spouting their opinions and being RUDE to the ones they offended.

YOU OFFEND ME GREATLY!

You have not even come close to behaving in an appropriate manner for someone who is sorry for the hurt, and harm they did.

I think your mocking
I think your rude
I think your deceptive
and I think you have some very serious Psychological issues that need to be addressed.

Please get some help.

And when you truely repent....you don't come back around making excuses and treating the same people you offended in a disrespectful manner when you have been told you have hurt them.

You don't even realize what you did as being really hurtful.

You lack empathy which says alot in and of itself for your Psychological condition.

Unfortunately I do not lack empathy, and I am not what you say. Lies/slander won't get you anywhere.

I don't hate anyone and my apologies are not fake, it's just you can't let things go. If you could you wouldn't be here.

No worries, last post here. You have a great imagination though.

My psychological condition is just fine. No worries.

You can keep telling yourself that. But I feel very sorry for you.

Having anger against God for one can really mess with ones mind.

You are unstable Rose. And your posts convey that.

More than one person has told you that you need Psychological help. And I don't even know you that well and I told you that myself.

And again....someone that is truely sorry does not behave in the manner that you are.

So "FAKE" is the word that aptly describes you. When you learn to get "real" with yourself and God....then true healing will come.

Let me tell you, Rose has more forgiveness in her heart, than the whole lynch mob together.

I will testify to that before the Throne of God. Amen.

You know NOTHING about me. I am not angry at God anymore, I love Him very much. So you can keep it up....funny how everyone points the finger at MY hurting people when there are about 5 others here I can think of that need to dust off their Bibles, including YOU and your RIGHTEOUS BEHAVIOR. I am sorry that you don't accept apologies,... that says alot about YOUR relationship with God. Maybe it's not ME that needs the help, but this whole FORUM is sick! It's going to be over soon. It will. Someone that says they let it go wouldn't be doing this either.. so who is throwing the first stone? You need to GET REAL, now you're the mother of the forum? The judge and jury? I don't think so!

And thank you, my loving sister, Justice. I see your heart and love you for your forgiveness. At least someone believes it to be truth. xo

In the words of peanuts, "Good Grief!"





I am happy to say that starting tomorrow I am opening up an online business. I have to learn the ropes. It will take a lot of my time and energy and wonderful communications skills. The business is run by Christians and they sound like it. I am going whole heartedly into it. It will occupy this temple for a while. I am glad I will be off here.

If anyone is interested in my line I will accept PM's...not PMS...messages...there is plenty of PMS on here...

Rose....

Get some help.

I've tried reaching out to you recently. Even after all you did. But you instead want to continue with the bitterness.

So you will find what the result will be of eating that kind of food.

Prov. 30:20


No "true" remorse.

The wording "get some help" is the word of a failing person, as Jesus has commanded us to reach out and help, not referring them to the woods of the soft healers who make stinking wounds.

Yes,

Let us help one another, the world is grieving with pain ! And 'get some help' is
meaning . . . I cannot understand your harsh speech.

Sometimes, written word's sound harsh on paper. Due to the lack of ability to express
the thought. All people do this sometimes.

And Jesus wants us to 100 % reach out -------- and help, by loving, being understanding
toward each brethren. Whether we have differences or not. We are commanded to love,
as Christ like.

And the phrase ' not referring them (Brethren) to the woods (where Sleeping Beauty
lays inside the glass coffin/casket) . . . and the soft healers (peace makers, not
holistic warriors, although in the family of God, both peace workers and warrior's
have their individual place of membership) . . .

. . . who make stinking wounds . . . note: The who (brethren) that make stinking wounds,
is a war term, of a nurse in combat, that must scrub the dirt out of the bloody infection
to fully cleanse the bacteria out, before application of salve, & dressing it.

So if the peace workers can only scrub wounds lightly, not agressive like a holistic
warrior, then so what ? Each of us know our calling/mission. We are not assigned to
perform every duty.

That is why we have diversity in the Lord.




A Suicide Letter, overdose of pills to kill herself

http://www.spsfv.org/letter.htm
The letter below was written shortly before the writer took an overdose of pills to kill herself. We have not changed incorrect spelling or punctuation. It is indicative of the state she was in and makes this note more valuable.



Book Of Lamentations = `funeral Songs`, LESSONS:~Parallel tribute to Justice/ThisWind~
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I have read and watched this forum regularly since 2004. It takes most members here 500 topics and 500 posts on each to thoroughly make Their point. It is the very things that you are complaining about that make this forum unique. Plus the fact that Prophecy is encouraged here.

What about engaging in faith and Praying to our father in heaven for The changes that suite Him?

Well put, Miki. Thank you!

gr82bsaved

Hi Miki,

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I have a suggestion...but don't know if it's possible...could we have the option to move our own postings into different sections after we post? I'm talking about threads that we start. That *might* resolve some of the organizational issues. I also have a posting I placed in the Bible Prophecy thread, not because I wanted to, but because when I tried to post it in the What Do You Say section, I kept getting an error over and over again...it refused to let me post it in that section.

Concerning name changes...ummm...I happen to like the idea that we can change our names and here is why...these moniker's we go by reveal a stage within our life that CAN change given enough time. Even God changed Abram's name to Abraham. He also referred to Jacob as Israel too. Those who change their names for ulterior reasons, I believe their deeds go before them...and I wouldn't want to throw out the option for the sake of those who abuse it...that would be punishing those who are innocent. I happen to like the thought that I can present a different refelction of either who I am, or what is upon my mind or heart more lately etc.

God bless you,
Kim

It would be nice to move our own posts but l don't believe this server allows that option.

And Kim..The Lord handed out the new names...

Yes...we change. But what we were humbles us into the future as a constant testimony...

It's ok...It keeps us on our toes... Plus!! It makes us desire to be careful regarding our flesh because everybody will see us. God always sees..but people have a hard time sifting that into their thought lives..


Most people need at some stage of their lives, to impress others with their thoughts.
They wonder how they can do that if we know their past mistakes.

Don't you see? This is the very thing that keeps us in check..

Mostly Christians eventually forgive and let it go and give others another chance. The fear of rejection is a powerful tool. We should walk worthy of the calling....being cautious not to disqualify ourselves.

In the real world we don't get to go around changing our names. We as humans need accountability.

The last incarnation of a man in this life.

Me too. I applaud Miki

I had an awful name... but I have but my old one on my sig so people know.

Thank you now I know you also. This helps a lot when I'm trying to figure out who is who with my small brain!

I agree. It's not a good testimony to new Christians and unbelievers who are searching. I enjoyed your post very much and have to tell you: it might be only worth 2 cents to you, but I would give you a whole dollar for it! Great post.

Hi Miki,
Yes, I see where you are coming from. I'm not suggesting that changing a nickname on the forum is of as great a value as when the Lord has done it...but felt that this side should be presented too...our God does give us new beginnings. When He pours out the New Wine...our wineskins also need to be new...etc. I'm not talking about issues of pride or vanity (or running away from accountability)...but merely thoughtful reflections as we go from glory to glory to glory, beholding and reflecting the Lord in our daily lives.

I just think we also need to be careful about our observations...I don't think everyone is changing their moniker due to duplicity. And I enjoy the thought of having the option. I do agree that it is a shame if someone abuses this privelege.

Do you know if it's possible for the settings to be changed with the server (concerning OP threads being moved to appropriate categories)?

God bless you,
Kim

I know people like the option to change their screen name..

I would say that no..you don't have the option to move your own posts...I don't think invision offers this in any of it's systems?

Larry is that you?

We only need to be IN one name- Jesus' ...let's not look at each other's flesh but walk in faith and believe God to put Jesus' nature, character, and authority (Greek word for "name") in us.

That means Jesus' nature is seen in our actions and life. We reckon our old lives to be dead.

Be merciful and you will obtain mercy.

I made good my "threat" to go public with my own name...no more screen names...they seem to be a screen ...ha...

Hey Miki... thanks for your two cents. I dislike the name changes too. It IS dishonest most of the time.

Classic that even in this little thread, we cannot avoid a fight.

I'm personally, and quite bluntly, disturbed and greatly saddened at what I've seen around here the last couple of weeks. We are completely blowing our witness. The scoffers must love to see such spirits of strife and hatred. What a mess.

Val, you are correct. We are not the Holy Spirit. I have been guilty of this in the past- it is so easy to get wrapped up, take sides, and set up camp. In my experience, if my emotions are starting to get aroused, it is time for me to BACK AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER. I have sinned before, on this forum and on others, by writing in anger. After finally learning this lesson, I can't tell you how many times I have started to write and thought better of it.

And yes, Don, times are getting tougher and tougher. It is time to stand together- not rip each other apart.

GOOD GRIEF IS RIGHT!

Jesus, please help us to love each other. Your Word says that if we can fathom all knowledge and all wisdom but have not love, we have learned nothing. Help us to see others as You see them. In Jesus' Name, Amen.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Revelation 3:12


The nations will see your righteousness, And all kings your glory; And you will be called by a new name Which the mouth of the LORD will designate.
Isaiah 62:2


They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.
Revelation 22:4

I am a newbie to this site (but a seasoned Christian)..found this site a couple of weeks ago and was SOOO excited to find a Christian forum and as my screen name says...Ready to Learn!

While I have been able to find lots of great information and new things to seek prayer on...I truly have been really been surprised and disappointed in how people conduct themselves here. I keep trying to look past some of it...but I just want to say that non-Christians who may visit this bored could easily be caused to stumble and not actually see respectful Christians. In reality it is not much different than a secular board with how people "write" to each other and how judgemental some posts are.

From posts on Republicans are the lukewarm church, unkindness towards some seeking prayer covering for Gustav...it really blows me away! I am still going to hang around for a little while, because I believe there is still much for me to learn...but I sincerely hope people can be mindful of the words they choice and think of how it will be received.

Especially as brothers and sisters in Christ - there should be even more love and respect shown to each other. I would be scared to think of how non-believers are treated if this is how your brothers/sisters in Christ are...

Welcome REady to Learn..

you said: but I just want to say that non-Christians who may visit this bored could easily be caused to stumble and not actually see respectful Christians

this has been pointed out many times here, to no avail..
Being seasoned, you will know that HIS Sheep WILL hear His voice.. but there are others..

they continue to bite and devour caring only to be the top dog and have the last say..
no doubt, your spirit will discern.

I would suggest going back about a month to six weeks and start backwards from there.. for the most part, there are good bible / doctrinal studies that you could learn from.

I too, am beginning to sense the Spirit telling me to move on, but there are so me here to whom I am bound by the Spirit. I will follow to see if there is prayer needed and do my part..

Much of the contents of many posts now, are about things that matter not, considering our Lord's coming is soon.. beware.. do not allow your self to be entangle in such folly.

There is alot of nonsense topic here, too, most of those will clearly point out who loves this world, loves being "right" above all, love knowledge without wisdom, all the while showing the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another .. sounding like Pharisees.

Be forewarned.. Do not try to bring a message of repentance here.. for if you do, you will see this spirit rise up -

We have Abraham as our father, .. all the right words.. but the fruit is missing.. love, peace, forgiveness, patience, longsuffering, etc..

and yes, I know.. forgiveness is not a fruit of the Spirit, but, neither is it found here in truth.

Pray for these if you so feel led - or leave them to the Saviour to deal with.

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And then there are those who's spirits' will evidence the Spirit of the Lord.. Sadly, a number those from whom I've learned much are have gone from the forum, or only stop in now and then. They seemed to have washed their hands of it all.

As you said, it is a sad testimony.

I can only say, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

Our witness/good deeds save no one, only Jesus saves via the seed which falls on good soil-parable of the sower
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
John 15:5

Jesus via the Holy Spirit saves men 100%, without any help
For this reason I want you to be aware that no one who is speaking by God's Spirit can say, "Jesus is cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:3

The Word says that only believers can be stumbled, unbelievers are already condemned and are in a position of eternal peril with no reason to blame anyone if they perish. It is the world via athiests, agnostics, mockers and cultists which convinces unbelievers that Jesus is not the Savior. Unbelievers also, are in a state of spiritual death, lost, without God, already prone to deny Christ - only the Lord can save them out of the 'world' and its enticements.
"Whoever causes one of these little ones who already believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea.
Mark 9:42

Outside of Jesus, the unbeliever has no hope at all and must come to Christ by themselves via the prompting of the Holy Spirit Who convicts of sin, righteousness and judgment - that is the plain Word of God
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:18


The sinner's responsibility is to be saved, without excuses. Unbelievers put off belief in Christ via excuses.
At the Great White Throne Judgment, there are no excuses and no one to blame.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only unique Son, that whosoever believes on Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

I am truelly sorry that you seen us at our worst, as of late.
I am believeing in this time, will past, and healing in those lives here will take place.

I just want to take the time to wellcome you here,
and hope you will be able to over look weeknesses as we all are still growing, and stay here.

I know not one that came here that wasnt ment to be here, to learn and grow.



Hugs!

Shalom all,
I am new here although not new to forums in general, so I hope it's not too presumptuous to respond here.
The welcome was very warm and promising, and now reading this thread makes me sad
This forum, as any forum, is made up of people. People with minds and hearts.
The prophet Jeremiah said that "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick" (17:9 )
It's in man's very nature to do many of the things that happen in this and any, forum
I can't judge anyone or tell you what to do but for me, I will stay here in spite of this, knowing I am no better than anyone I could accuse
Forums are mainly for fellowship and studying together, but if they are open they must take into account everyone.
We can declare that we are not of this world but we are so, in many ways
If we read the Bible while crossing a busy road, we could get run over by a very earthly bus!!


Those running the forum and moderating it, are doing a good and worthy job. They need tools to deal with things that could hurt the forum
I don't know if you have this but in other forums they have threads that are open to the staff only and there they can discuss things and "vent" when needed
I'm not sure everything should be out in the open. Newbe's (like me) and guests might misunderstand what is going on

Personally, I would pray for forum abusers, rather than condemn them

God bless

It's difficult Hupo..

Anytime you've been involved with a thing for a long time and face frustrations..in self and learning how to deal with situations the way the Lord would do. Lately l've struggled with the reality of it..again..

I guess just moderation..Pamela says it good on her page..."You don't have to go to every argument you're invited to". I love it.

It's always frustrating to try hard and still be faced with daily contention..Oh well...At least l'm use to it.

Miki Shalom,
I have all the respect for anyone trying to run a human forum. Kind of impossible I guess.
You have been around from the beginning some 5 years ago, according to data here, and that shows something.
I don't know the details but I can understand frustration.
What can I say? For my part I will do my best to participate in the spirit you have created this forum with.
If I ever go astray (being human too) don't hesitate to let me know.

I have no intention of leaving this forum because of some black clouds floating over it.
Beyond the darkest clouds, the sun is shining
So I want to encourage you and the rest of the team to keep up the good work, because basically it IS good!

Blessings In His spirit