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DISCLAIMER WARNING:

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF PROPHECY, or GIFT OF BEING A VISIONARY `SEER`,
THIS INFORMATION IS NOT PERTAINING TO YOU, DIRECTLY. FOR EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE's OF THE FOLLOWING TERMS:


() Paul as a Seer, views from earth as a human being, the 3rd Heaven & Paradise realms

() Hell, of the Rich Man versus Paradise, of Lazarus, Abraham's bosom is `not` allowed, a GULF
is set in order between hell & Paradise

() Why do loved ones on death bed, see visions of former deceased family members ?
( answer's are below)

() What are evil spirits, who mimic dead people ? ( answer's are below )

() Angelic beings travel between earth and Paradise, as the angels carried Lazarus to
the bosom of Abraham, in paradise

() Angelic beings can assist `Seers`, in their mission purpose on earth through human contact

() Learn the difference between necromancy, which is forbidden, as in the Witch of Endor
versus Saul story

() There is `not` a prohibited gulf between Heaven/Paradise and earth

() The Gulf is between hell & Paradise :
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.

May the people who have never understood Biblical answer's to these very important
questions, be blessed with these teachings from the Holy Spirit.


Praise His Holy Name (IHVH)





@7:17 a.m., I wrote a letter to Holy Spirit, with a question. The question
was regarding, `one` of `SEERS` gift's. I directed my prayerful question,
aimed @ ~Divine Truth~.

Before presenting these divine truths from the Holy Spirit, I ask the reader
to remember, that I consider these word's directed by God (IHVH), through
the comforter, called the Holy Ghost. Sent by Jesus, who promised after
He `ascended`, to not leave us without comfort. We were promised that the
comforter would bring all things to our remembrance that Jesus taught,
thus teaching us all things.


John 14:26
King James Bible
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


disclaimer : all reference's to God, are understood through IHVH. A Hebrew
divine reference to His Sovereignty.
8888+cross/tau+8 Octave, +Sovereignty of God(IHVH)
http://dnascienceconstructspathtogod.blogs...reignty-of.html







@07:17 a.m.@7-25-2008, Fri. (6th day of creation)

Divine Truth :

QUESTION : "THE SOURCE", the reason
for the "memory" of the
deceased to be honored.

ANSWER : * God grants last covenants &
contracts, that are non-
selfish motives, that the
death bed enacted . . .
that the family would
benefit spiritual
discernment with the
"Word of Knowledge" from
`SEERS`, ---> to the
Family From the
memory of the deceased.( double line under word, `memory` )

The memory of the deceased
is like a magnetic
grid within the Hall of
Records, . . .
`SEERS` can as Paul, as
Daniel, as Ezekiel access
these assigned memory
records of the
deceased.

`SEERS` do not provoke
the wrath of the Lord
through a direct
MEMORY of the deceased.
`SEERS` operate under the
anointing of the Holy
Spirit, comforter, `SEERS` have
Jesus the Mediator
between them and God,
there is a great gulf
between earth &
3rd Heaven and Paradise
level, `SEERS` can access through visions & revelations.

To access the Gulf between Hell (Purgatory) & Paradise
is NOT possible or allowed.
Mediums who direct channel as a
human to the deceased are necromancing. Which is
forbidden. They delete the
mediator as Christ from the vision.
The Mediator Jesus is
the great gulf connector,
connection (Vau) between
earth and 3rd Heaven and
Paradise realms.
This is why the story of
witch of Endor enacted
spirit of Samuel, For
Saul, through necromancing
method, not Divine
Truth through 'The Source'
of God.

The intent of the King Saul
to ask For selfish purpose
questions, of the witch of
Endor was a sin, also.
(Versus) The deathbed contracts, of
unfinished, non-selfish circum-
stances matters of heritage
rights of laws, genetic
medical information, resolution
of love & hate issues
between family members . . .
**All non-not-selfish
reasons are under anointing.

This is why the gift of knowledge
is linked to the vision
of the deceased.
This memory is the visual, audio
"map" of the person in
their human characteristics,
to identify their identity
code. The deceased has a life code.

Then `SEERS` through visionary
Holy Spirit gift, accesses with gift
of "Word of Knowledge",
the anointed information,
received.

`SEERS` can access the "life
code". Which presents a image
of deceased, with
details within the person's
life code.

---> Hauntings are evil spirit's
which have "mimic" ability
to act like the deceased
Life code.

3rd heaven and/or Paradise
deceased of the garment of light
death, cannot be seized by
the evil spirit. They are protected ( note, this is open space )
however, Dark deceased, in Pergatory
can be accessed by evil spirit's
and these dark human's without garment of light
who are deceased, are
in Pergatory, suspect to
being used for
Hauntings via the
evil spirit who can
"mimic" the former
deceased human.

The angelic assistance
of Lazarus being carried to
bosom of Abraham, provides
proof that Hauntings
cannot be of the
"garment of Light" human, deceased parties.

Only dark human deceased without garments of Light
in Pergatory, can be seized
via evil spirit to mimic
Hauntings. The dark are not
protected deceased.
Hitler, would be a dark.
A child murderer would be a
dark, as an example of leaving
earth without the garment of Light.

Transformation through activating
garment of Light through Christ
blood, is atonement covering.
Like Lazarus carried by
angels to bosom of
Abraham, both Lazarus &
Abraham were in
Paradise realm of Heaven.

The visionary gift of
`SEERS` to access the
garment of Light
deceased is a Non-
selfish anointed Action.

The "Action" is allowed,
The necromancing is
denied, the
Living Family member's of
the garment of Light
deceased are assisted
with the word of
knowledge, `SEERS`
have been endowed
to provide.

Honor the life code rules.
Disengage in necromancy, Ouiji
Board parlor games.
The Life Code is not a game.

Mediums, versus "garment
of Light" Visionary
disciples are two
separate titles.

Disengage the term
mediumship. This word
applies to necromancy.

`SEERS` are a disciple of
the garment of Light, who
with Holy Ghost uses
their gift of visions, as
a Word of
Knowledge, For the
families of the
garment of Light deceased.

Enact the proper speech
with reference to the
gift title. The former is former.
The Present July 25, 2008
revelation is anointed
via the Word of God (IHVH)
(end of message )




````````````````````



RESEARCH :

When you see people who are in Paradise, you are visiting them in
a visionary revelations from God (IHVH). The Lord is allowing you to
see the dead earth form, to speak the things allowed ( revealed ), due to
certain things `not` to be spoken ( not revealed ) :

. . . " heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Have you ever noticed that only certain personality traits and
key-coded characteristics are allowed, for you to `speak` about ?

As in, what is revealed is 100% correct.

What is the Lord's business ( secret/not revealed ) is unspeakable words, which it is
not lawful for a man to utter.

Lazarus died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom,
Paradise. The angels travel to Paradise. We can travel to Paradise
and 3rd Heaven, also.

What did Christ say to the one thief on the Cross, :
"TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE"
(Luke 23:43)



http://www.godfire.net/eby/abrahams.html

The Parable
The Rich Man
Lazarus
The Deaths of the Rich Man and Lazarus
Abraham's Bosom
Lazarus In Abraham's Bosom
The Rich Man In Torment
The Great Gulf

"There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
'And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
"And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
"But Abraham said, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are tormented.
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.
"Then he said, I pray therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house:
"For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, unless they also come into this place of torment.
'Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
'And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead" (Luke 16:19-31).




http://users.belgacom.net/gc674645/heaven/2-3heavn.htm

A THIRD HEAVEN & A PARADISE?

St. Paul says in 2 Corintians chapter 12 verse 1:

"It is doubtless not expedient for me to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ more than fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows.) Such a one caught UP to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) 4 How that he was caught UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Here St. Paul knew a Christian man, probably he is talking about himself,---whether in or out of a body he couldn't tell---who was one time caught UP to the third Heaven and the other was caught UP into Paradise!
zeetz
Betty, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this information. It confirms many things I already knew scripture, and other things I wasn't sure of but had a certain amount of knowledge about.

I have never seen a ghost or departed loved one in my life. Sometimes I have had a dream about my parents though. I think that is a GOOD thing in light of the fact they are with Jesus where no evil spirit can have access to them to mimic them here on earth. The fact that I know they were saved and my never having "seen" them in anyway after they departed IS GOOD! THEY ARE WITH THE LORD! I always "knew" that "ghosts" were evil spirits creating deception and fear, because that's all they can do is deceive. And as a Christian, clothed in the garment of Light - the Robe of Righteousness of Jesus, Christians are protected. What a wonderful, precious gift the Father has given us in Jesus Christ! Forgiveness of sins, direct access to the Father through Jesus, and access to paradise, 3rd heaven, just to name few!

For the longest time I believed UFO's and aliens were nothing more than evil spirits posing as something they are not, again with the purpose to deceive. Angels are a whole different matter though. I am still not sure if some people who think they are seeing UFO's are actually seeing manifestations of Angelic activity, even war in the heavens between the good and the evil angels...I think I have a lot more to learn about this particular subject though. The answer escapes me, but in the end what seems complex probably has a simple and scriptural answer.

I now have a clearer understanding of the definition and differences between a SEER with the power of the Holy Ghost (for GOOD and God's purposes), and the other (dark) side: Mediums, Necromancy, etc..

And Paradise / Heaven vs Hell (purgatory) and the great gulf fixed between the two. The Bible says when Jesus rose from the dead he had been in Paradise beneath the earth, preaching the gospel to the righteous dead there...that there was a place there called Sheol, Hell where the dark ones went, and a great gulf fixed between that place and the other side where the righteous dead at that time went, called Paradise (Abraham's Bosom) ...Jesus preached to the dead in Paradise during the 3 days after His death on the cross and before He rose from the dead; and lead "captivity captive" when He rose from the dead. Many righteous dead rose also at that time and were seen throughout Jerusalem! And the Bible says that hell was enlarged, which makes me think that when Paradise was "emptied out" of the righteous dead who went to Heaven after Jesus accomplished His task there with them, it left extra room for the bad in Hell to expand into. Just my understanding of those scriptures.

THANK YOU FOR THESE GREAT WORDS OF DEFINITION! Yes, there is a HUGE difference between the world of mediums and the righteous assignments via the Holy Spirit for SEERS and Prophets/Prophecy. One offers Deception and lies, and the other offers Truth and Wisdom. I choose Truth and Wisdom! I am still learning!

Keep posting Betty! God bless you in your sharing these things with boldness!

Love U!
zeetz




QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Aug 21 2008, 05:41 AM) *
DISCLAIMER WARNING:

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF PROPHECY, or GIFT OF BEING A VISIONARY `SEER`,
THIS INFORMATION IS NOT PERTAINING TO YOU, DIRECTLY. FOR EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE's OF THE FOLLOWING TERMS:


() Paul as a Seer, views from earth as a human being, the 3rd Heaven & Paradise realms

() Hell, of the Rich Man versus Paradise, of Lazarus, Abraham's bosom is `not` allowed, a GULF
is set in order between hell & Paradise

() Why do loved ones on death bed, see visions of former deceased family members ?
( answer's are below)

() What are evil spirits, who mimic dead people ? ( answer's are below )

() Angelic beings travel between earth and Paradise, as the angels carried Lazarus to
the bosom of Abraham, in paradise

() Angelic beings can assist `Seers`, in their mission purpose on earth through human contact

() Learn the difference between necromancy, which is forbidden, as in the Witch of Endor
versus Saul story

() There is `not` a prohibited gulf between Heaven/Paradise and earth

() The Gulf is between hell & Paradise :
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.

May the people who have never understood Biblical answer's to these very important
questions, be blessed with these teachings from the Holy Spirit.


Praise His Holy Name (IHVH)





@7:17 a.m., I wrote a letter to Holy Spirit, with a question. The question
was regarding, `one` of `SEERS` gift's. I directed my prayerful question,
aimed @ ~Divine Truth~.

Before presenting these divine truths from the Holy Spirit, I ask the reader
to remember, that I consider these word's directed by God (IHVH), through
the comforter, called the Holy Ghost. Sent by Jesus, who promised after
He `ascended`, to not leave us without comfort. We were promised that the
comforter would bring all things to our remembrance that Jesus taught,
thus teaching us all things.


John 14:26
King James Bible
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


disclaimer : all reference's to God, are understood through IHVH. A Hebrew
divine reference to His Sovereignty.
8888+cross/tau+8 Octave, +Sovereignty of God(IHVH)
http://dnascienceconstructspathtogod.blogs...reignty-of.html







@07:17 a.m.@7-25-2008, Fri. (6th day of creation)

Divine Truth :

QUESTION : "THE SOURCE", the reason
for the "memory" of the
deceased to be honored.

ANSWER : * God grants last covenants &
contracts, that are non-
selfish motives, that the
death bed enacted . . .
that the family would
benefit spiritual
discernment with the
"Word of Knowledge" from
`SEERS`, ---> to the
Family From the
memory of the deceased.( double line under word, `memory` )

The memory of the deceased
is like a magnetic
grid within the Hall of
Records, . . .
`SEERS` can as Paul, as
Daniel, as Ezekiel access
these assigned memory
records of the
deceased.

`SEERS` do not provoke
the wrath of the Lord
through a direct
MEMORY of the deceased.
`SEERS` operate under the
anointing of the Holy
Spirit, comforter, `SEERS` have
Jesus the Mediator
between them and God,
there is a great gulf
between earth &
3rd Heaven and Paradise
level, `SEERS` can access through visions & revelations.

To access the Gulf between Hell (Purgatory) & Paradise
is NOT possible or allowed.
Mediums who direct channel as a
human to the deceased are necromancing. Which is
forbidden. They delete the
mediator as Christ from the vision.
The Mediator Jesus is
the great gulf connector,
connection (Vau) between
earth and 3rd Heaven and
Paradise realms.
This is why the story of
witch of Endor enacted
spirit of Samuel, For
Saul, through necromancing
method, not Divine
Truth through 'The Source'
of God.

The intent of the King Saul
to ask For selfish purpose
questions, of the witch of
Endor was a sin, also.
(Versus) The deathbed contracts, of
unfinished, non-selfish circum-
stances matters of heritage
rights of laws, genetic
medical information, resolution
of love & hate issues
between family members . . .
**All non-not-selfish
reasons are under anointing.

This is why the gift of knowledge
is linked to the vision
of the deceased.
This memory is the visual, audio
"map" of the person in
their human characteristics,
to identify their identity
code. The deceased has a life code.

Then `SEERS` through visionary
Holy Spirit gift, accesses with gift
of "Word of Knowledge",
the anointed information,
received.

`SEERS` can access the "life
code". Which presents a image
of deceased, with
details within the person's
life code.

---> Hauntings are evil spirit's
which have "mimic" ability
to act like the deceased
Life code.

3rd heaven and/or Paradise
deceased of the garment of light
death, cannot be seized by
the evil spirit. They are protected ( note, this is open space )
however, Dark deceased, in Pergatory
can be accessed by evil spirit's
and these dark human's without garment of light
who are deceased, are
in Pergatory, suspect to
being used for
Hauntings via the
evil spirit who can
"mimic" the former
deceased human.

The angelic assistance
of Lazarus being carried to
bosom of Abraham, provides
proof that Hauntings
cannot be of the
"garment of Light" human, deceased parties.

Only dark human deceased without garments of Light
in Pergatory, can be seized
via evil spirit to mimic
Hauntings. The dark are not
protected deceased.
Hitler, would be a dark.
A child murderer would be a
dark, as an example of leaving
earth without the garment of Light.

Transformation through activating
garment of Light through Christ
blood, is atonement covering.
Like Lazarus carried by
angels to bosom of
Abraham, both Lazarus &
Abraham were in
Paradise realm of Heaven.

The visionary gift of
`SEERS` to access the
garment of Light
deceased is a Non-
selfish anointed Action.

The "Action" is allowed,
The necromancing is
denied, the
Living Family member's of
the garment of Light
deceased are assisted
with the word of
knowledge, `SEERS`
have been endowed
to provide.

Honor the life code rules.
Disengage in necromancy, Ouiji
Board parlor games.
The Life Code is not a game.

Mediums, versus "garment
of Light" Visionary
disciples are two
separate titles.

Disengage the term
mediumship. This word
applies to necromancy.

`SEERS` are a disciple of
the garment of Light, who
with Holy Ghost uses
their gift of visions, as
a Word of
Knowledge, For the
families of the
garment of Light deceased.

Enact the proper speech
with reference to the
gift title. The former is former.
The Present July 25, 2008
revelation is anointed
via the Word of God (IHVH)
(end of message )




````````````````````



RESEARCH :

When you see people who are in Paradise, you are visiting them in
a visionary revelations from God (IHVH). The Lord is allowing you to
see the dead earth form, to speak the things allowed ( revealed ), due to
certain things `not` to be spoken ( not revealed ) :

. . . " heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Have you ever noticed that only certain personality traits and
key-coded characteristics are allowed, for you to `speak` about ?

As in, what is revealed is 100% correct.

What is the Lord's business ( secret/not revealed ) is unspeakable words, which it is
not lawful for a man to utter.

Lazarus died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom,
Paradise. The angels travel to Paradise. We can travel to Paradise
and 3rd Heaven, also.

What did Christ say to the one thief on the Cross, :
"TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE"
(Luke 23:43)



http://www.godfire.net/eby/abrahams.html

The Parable
The Rich Man
Lazarus
The Deaths of the Rich Man and Lazarus
Abraham's Bosom
Lazarus In Abraham's Bosom
The Rich Man In Torment
The Great Gulf

"There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
'And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
"And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
"But Abraham said, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are tormented.
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.
"Then he said, I pray therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house:
"For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, unless they also come into this place of torment.
'Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
'And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead" (Luke 16:19-31).




http://users.belgacom.net/gc674645/heaven/2-3heavn.htm

A THIRD HEAVEN & A PARADISE?

St. Paul says in 2 Corintians chapter 12 verse 1:

"It is doubtless not expedient for me to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ more than fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows.) Such a one caught UP to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) 4 How that he was caught UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Here St. Paul knew a Christian man, probably he is talking about himself,---whether in or out of a body he couldn't tell---who was one time caught UP to the third Heaven and the other was caught UP into Paradise!

crownsevenalphabet
Thank you, Zeetz, for sharing your words of wisdom.


As a young (babe in Christ) . . . many of these boundaries, I have outlined . . . for
the edification of the reader, which may have not been clear.

As the last days are upon us, it is good discernment to know the boundary area's of
the gift's. And unlike my youth days, I stayed many times in between the quenching
of the Holy Ghost, due to people/mentors unable to answer these topics, in this post.

So I would stay in reserve, on the visionary message . . . or enlightened dream, not
knowing who to turn to . . . and what to think ?

Of course, it is clear in my spiritual walk @49 years old, that no matter how much you
suppress the Holy Ghost, your mission will be carried out.

I just do not want to go through a Jonah, experience, I only like fish fried ! (ha)

Let us remember obedience is better than sacrifice !


Scriptures That Teach Obedience Better Than Sacrifice ?, Seeking scriptures that mirror this message . . .
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=14515&hl=
GodLovesYou
Betty, I am printing this one out... it is amazing! So much to read! But worth it... wow, how do you get so much done in one day?

God bless you, this is terrific!

xo Rose
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 21 2008, 07:25 PM) *
Betty, I am printing this one out... it is amazing! So much to read! But worth it... wow, how do you get so much done in one day?

God bless you, this is terrific!

xo Rose



Thank you, so much Rose :

Yes, this is a keeper, sister !

Good news, I file things away . . . and then later down the road I find out why ? rolleyes.gif

- - - If I did not store research under topics, I would never get anything pulled together.
Most certainly, not an extended topic like this one.

So glad it blessed you !

1dsz5e4.gif
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (zeetz @ Aug 21 2008, 05:33 PM) *
Betty, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this information. It confirms many things I already knew scripture, and other things I wasn't sure of but had a certain amount of knowledge about.

I have never seen a ghost or departed loved one in my life. Sometimes I have had a dream about my parents though. I think that is a GOOD thing in light of the fact they are with Jesus where no evil spirit can have access to them to mimic them here on earth. The fact that I know they were saved and my never having "seen" them in anyway after they departed IS GOOD! THEY ARE WITH THE LORD! I always "knew" that "ghosts" were evil spirits creating deception and fear, because that's all they can do is deceive. And as a Christian, clothed in the garment of Light - the Robe of Righteousness of Jesus, Christians are protected. What a wonderful, precious gift the Father has given us in Jesus Christ! Forgiveness of sins, direct access to the Father through Jesus, and access to paradise, 3rd heaven, just to name few!

For the longest time I believed UFO's and aliens were nothing more than evil spirits posing as something they are not, again with the purpose to deceive. Angels are a whole different matter though. I am still not sure if some people who think they are seeing UFO's are actually seeing manifestations of Angelic activity, even war in the heavens between the good and the evil angels...I think I have a lot more to learn about this particular subject though. The answer escapes me, but in the end what seems complex probably has a simple and scriptural answer.

I now have a clearer understanding of the definition and differences between a SEER with the power of the Holy Ghost (for GOOD and God's purposes), and the other (dark) side: Mediums, Necromancy, etc..

And Paradise / Heaven vs Hell (purgatory) and the great gulf fixed between the two. The Bible says when Jesus rose from the dead he had been in Paradise beneath the earth, preaching the gospel to the righteous dead there...that there was a place there called Sheol, Hell where the dark ones went, and a great gulf fixed between that place and the other side where the righteous dead at that time went, called Paradise (Abraham's Bosom) ...Jesus preached to the dead in Paradise during the 3 days after His death on the cross and before He rose from the dead; and lead "captivity captive" when He rose from the dead. Many righteous dead rose also at that time and were seen throughout Jerusalem! And the Bible says that hell was enlarged, which makes me think that when Paradise was "emptied out" of the righteous dead who went to Heaven after Jesus accomplished His task there with them, it left extra room for the bad in Hell to expand into. Just my understanding of those scriptures.

THANK YOU FOR THESE GREAT WORDS OF DEFINITION! Yes, there is a HUGE difference between the world of mediums and the righteous assignments via the Holy Spirit for SEERS and Prophets/Prophecy. One offers Deception and lies, and the other offers Truth and Wisdom. I choose Truth and Wisdom! I am still learning!

Keep posting Betty! God bless you in your sharing these things with boldness!

Love U!
zeetz




QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Aug 21 2008, 05:41 AM) *
DISCLAIMER WARNING:

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF PROPHECY, or GIFT OF BEING A VISIONARY `SEER`,
THIS INFORMATION IS NOT PERTAINING TO YOU, DIRECTLY. FOR EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE's OF THE FOLLOWING TERMS:


() Paul as a Seer, views from earth as a human being, the 3rd Heaven & Paradise realms

() Hell, of the Rich Man versus Paradise, of Lazarus, Abraham's bosom is `not` allowed, a GULF
is set in order between hell & Paradise

() Why do loved ones on death bed, see visions of former deceased family members ?
( answer's are below)

() What are evil spirits, who mimic dead people ? ( answer's are below )

() Angelic beings travel between earth and Paradise, as the angels carried Lazarus to
the bosom of Abraham, in paradise

() Angelic beings can assist `Seers`, in their mission purpose on earth through human contact

() Learn the difference between necromancy, which is forbidden, as in the Witch of Endor
versus Saul story

() There is `not` a prohibited gulf between Heaven/Paradise and earth

() The Gulf is between hell & Paradise :
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.

May the people who have never understood Biblical answer's to these very important
questions, be blessed with these teachings from the Holy Spirit.


Praise His Holy Name (IHVH)





@7:17 a.m., I wrote a letter to Holy Spirit, with a question. The question
was regarding, `one` of `SEERS` gift's. I directed my prayerful question,
aimed @ ~Divine Truth~.

Before presenting these divine truths from the Holy Spirit, I ask the reader
to remember, that I consider these word's directed by God (IHVH), through
the comforter, called the Holy Ghost. Sent by Jesus, who promised after
He `ascended`, to not leave us without comfort. We were promised that the
comforter would bring all things to our remembrance that Jesus taught,
thus teaching us all things.


John 14:26
King James Bible
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


disclaimer : all reference's to God, are understood through IHVH. A Hebrew
divine reference to His Sovereignty.
8888+cross/tau+8 Octave, +Sovereignty of God(IHVH)
http://dnascienceconstructspathtogod.blogs...reignty-of.html







@07:17 a.m.@7-25-2008, Fri. (6th day of creation)

Divine Truth :

QUESTION : "THE SOURCE", the reason
for the "memory" of the
deceased to be honored.

ANSWER : * God grants last covenants &
contracts, that are non-
selfish motives, that the
death bed enacted . . .
that the family would
benefit spiritual
discernment with the
"Word of Knowledge" from
`SEERS`, ---> to the
Family From the
memory of the deceased.( double line under word, `memory` )

The memory of the deceased
is like a magnetic
grid within the Hall of
Records, . . .
`SEERS` can as Paul, as
Daniel, as Ezekiel access
these assigned memory
records of the
deceased.

`SEERS` do not provoke
the wrath of the Lord
through a direct
MEMORY of the deceased.
`SEERS` operate under the
anointing of the Holy
Spirit, comforter, `SEERS` have
Jesus the Mediator
between them and God,
there is a great gulf
between earth &
3rd Heaven and Paradise
level, `SEERS` can access through visions & revelations.

To access the Gulf between Hell (Purgatory) & Paradise
is NOT possible or allowed.
Mediums who direct channel as a
human to the deceased are necromancing. Which is
forbidden. They delete the
mediator as Christ from the vision.
The Mediator Jesus is
the great gulf connector,
connection (Vau) between
earth and 3rd Heaven and
Paradise realms.
This is why the story of
witch of Endor enacted
spirit of Samuel, For
Saul, through necromancing
method, not Divine
Truth through 'The Source'
of God.

The intent of the King Saul
to ask For selfish purpose
questions, of the witch of
Endor was a sin, also.
(Versus) The deathbed contracts, of
unfinished, non-selfish circum-
stances matters of heritage
rights of laws, genetic
medical information, resolution
of love & hate issues
between family members . . .
**All non-not-selfish
reasons are under anointing.

This is why the gift of knowledge
is linked to the vision
of the deceased.
This memory is the visual, audio
"map" of the person in
their human characteristics,
to identify their identity
code. The deceased has a life code.

Then `SEERS` through visionary
Holy Spirit gift, accesses with gift
of "Word of Knowledge",
the anointed information,
received.

`SEERS` can access the "life
code". Which presents a image
of deceased, with
details within the person's
life code.

---> Hauntings are evil spirit's
which have "mimic" ability
to act like the deceased
Life code.

3rd heaven and/or Paradise
deceased of the garment of light
death, cannot be seized by
the evil spirit. They are protected ( note, this is open space )
however, Dark deceased, in Pergatory
can be accessed by evil spirit's
and these dark human's without garment of light
who are deceased, are
in Pergatory, suspect to
being used for
Hauntings via the
evil spirit who can
"mimic" the former
deceased human.

The angelic assistance
of Lazarus being carried to
bosom of Abraham, provides
proof that Hauntings
cannot be of the
"garment of Light" human, deceased parties.

Only dark human deceased without garments of Light
in Pergatory, can be seized
via evil spirit to mimic
Hauntings. The dark are not
protected deceased.
Hitler, would be a dark.
A child murderer would be a
dark, as an example of leaving
earth without the garment of Light.

Transformation through activating
garment of Light through Christ
blood, is atonement covering.
Like Lazarus carried by
angels to bosom of
Abraham, both Lazarus &
Abraham were in
Paradise realm of Heaven.

The visionary gift of
`SEERS` to access the
garment of Light
deceased is a Non-
selfish anointed Action.

The "Action" is allowed,
The necromancing is
denied, the
Living Family member's of
the garment of Light
deceased are assisted
with the word of
knowledge, `SEERS`
have been endowed
to provide.

Honor the life code rules.
Disengage in necromancy, Ouiji
Board parlor games.
The Life Code is not a game.

Mediums, versus "garment
of Light" Visionary
disciples are two
separate titles.

Disengage the term
mediumship. This word
applies to necromancy.

`SEERS` are a disciple of
the garment of Light, who
with Holy Ghost uses
their gift of visions, as
a Word of
Knowledge, For the
families of the
garment of Light deceased.

Enact the proper speech
with reference to the
gift title. The former is former.
The Present July 25, 2008
revelation is anointed
via the Word of God (IHVH)
(end of message )




````````````````````



RESEARCH :

When you see people who are in Paradise, you are visiting them in
a visionary revelations from God (IHVH). The Lord is allowing you to
see the dead earth form, to speak the things allowed ( revealed ), due to
certain things `not` to be spoken ( not revealed ) :

. . . " heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Have you ever noticed that only certain personality traits and
key-coded characteristics are allowed, for you to `speak` about ?

As in, what is revealed is 100% correct.

What is the Lord's business ( secret/not revealed ) is unspeakable words, which it is
not lawful for a man to utter.

Lazarus died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom,
Paradise. The angels travel to Paradise. We can travel to Paradise
and 3rd Heaven, also.

What did Christ say to the one thief on the Cross, :
"TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE"
(Luke 23:43)



http://www.godfire.net/eby/abrahams.html

The Parable
The Rich Man
Lazarus
The Deaths of the Rich Man and Lazarus
Abraham's Bosom
Lazarus In Abraham's Bosom
The Rich Man In Torment
The Great Gulf

"There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
'And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
"And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
"But Abraham said, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are tormented.
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.
"Then he said, I pray therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house:
"For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, unless they also come into this place of torment.
'Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
'And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead" (Luke 16:19-31).




http://users.belgacom.net/gc674645/heaven/2-3heavn.htm

A THIRD HEAVEN & A PARADISE?

St. Paul says in 2 Corintians chapter 12 verse 1:

"It is doubtless not expedient for me to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ more than fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows.) Such a one caught UP to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) 4 How that he was caught UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Here St. Paul knew a Christian man, probably he is talking about himself,---whether in or out of a body he couldn't tell---who was one time caught UP to the third Heaven and the other was caught UP into Paradise!





http://www.hanginggardensofbabylon.org/won...bleProphecy.asp

Clothed with the Sun

This woman is described as clothed with the sun, she is wearing garments of light. Clothing in the Bible represents character. Isaiah 64:6, Zechariah 3:3-4

Light in the Bible is symbolic of truth, obedience, and righteousness it also represents the work of the Holy Spirit which leads us into all the truth. John 12:35, Ephesians 5:1-9, John 16:13

This light represents Jesus and that this church received it's light and truth directly from Jesus. John 8:12

The woman clothed in light represents the fact that this church is obedient to God's revealed truth and filled with the Holy Spirit. For its clothing it has the righteousness of Christ rather than the "filthy rags" of disobedience and works based religions. (Works based religions are worthless attempts at covering the fact that the Holy Spirit is not with them.) This church obeys God from the heart. Ephesians 6:6, Psalm 40:8, Acts 5:32

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." Matthew 5:16
crownsevenalphabet
`Garment of light`, the seer from earth views 3rd Heaven/Paradise

Post #8
A Rabbi Visited Me...
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...t=6#entry206447

Jul 3 2008, 11:09 PM
there is something i found some time ago in studying the rivers that flow from
the Garden of Eden...

i would ask that if you can look at the four rivers names and translations,
that there is one that speakes of the riddle of the garment of light...that is
what this reminds me of...the garmet of light is beyond the garments, or
rags that we put on, or that flesh is...but it is the inworking of the Holy Spirit,
our salvation actually that is this garment of light. it is the soulwork so to
speak...what is going on in the secret place...and our lives have been made
to experience exactly that which it takes to bring us to the Throne of God,
and to conform us to His image, and confirm in the faith of His followers.

in moments of extreme unction i touch the hem of His garment.


blessings,
signet
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Aug 21 2008, 06:41 AM) *
DISCLAIMER WARNING:

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF PROPHECY, or GIFT OF BEING A VISIONARY `SEER`,
THIS INFORMATION IS NOT PERTAINING TO YOU, DIRECTLY. FOR EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE's OF THE FOLLOWING TERMS:


() Paul as a Seer, views from earth as a human being, the 3rd Heaven & Paradise realms

() Hell, of the Rich Man versus Paradise, of Lazarus, Abraham's bosom is `not` allowed, a GULF
is set in order between hell & Paradise

() Why do loved ones on death bed, see visions of former deceased family members ?
( answer's are below)

() What are evil spirits, who mimic dead people ? ( answer's are below )

() Angelic beings travel between earth and Paradise, as the angels carried Lazarus to
the bosom of Abraham, in paradise

() Angelic beings can assist `Seers`, in their mission purpose on earth through human contact

() Learn the difference between necromancy, which is forbidden, as in the Witch of Endor
versus Saul story

() There is `not` a prohibited gulf between Heaven/Paradise and earth

() The Gulf is between hell & Paradise :
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.

May the people who have never understood Biblical answer's to these very important
questions, be blessed with these teachings from the Holy Spirit.


Praise His Holy Name (IHVH)





@7:17 a.m., I wrote a letter to Holy Spirit, with a question. The question
was regarding, `one` of `SEERS` gift's. I directed my prayerful question,
aimed @ ~Divine Truth~.

Before presenting these divine truths from the Holy Spirit, I ask the reader
to remember, that I consider these word's directed by God (IHVH), through
the comforter, called the Holy Ghost. Sent by Jesus, who promised after
He `ascended`, to not leave us without comfort. We were promised that the
comforter would bring all things to our remembrance that Jesus taught,
thus teaching us all things.


John 14:26
King James Bible
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


disclaimer : all reference's to God, are understood through IHVH. A Hebrew
divine reference to His Sovereignty.
8888+cross/tau+8 Octave, +Sovereignty of God(IHVH)
http://dnascienceconstructspathtogod.blogs...reignty-of.html







@07:17 a.m.@7-25-2008, Fri. (6th day of creation)

Divine Truth :

QUESTION : "THE SOURCE", the reason
for the "memory" of the
deceased to be honored.

ANSWER : * God grants last covenants &
contracts, that are non-
selfish motives, that the
death bed enacted . . .
that the family would
benefit spiritual
discernment with the
"Word of Knowledge" from
`SEERS`, ---> to the
Family From the
memory of the deceased.( double line under word, `memory` )

The memory of the deceased
is like a magnetic
grid within the Hall of
Records, . . .
`SEERS` can as Paul, as
Daniel, as Ezekiel access
these assigned memory
records of the
deceased.

`SEERS` do not provoke
the wrath of the Lord
through a direct
MEMORY of the deceased.
`SEERS` operate under the
anointing of the Holy
Spirit, comforter, `SEERS` have
Jesus the Mediator
between them and God,
there is a great gulf
between earth &
3rd Heaven and Paradise
level, `SEERS` can access through visions & revelations.

To access the Gulf between Hell (Purgatory) & Paradise
is NOT possible or allowed.
Mediums who direct channel as a
human to the deceased are necromancing. Which is
forbidden. They delete the
mediator as Christ from the vision.
The Mediator Jesus is
the great gulf connector,
connection (Vau) between
earth and 3rd Heaven and
Paradise realms.
This is why the story of
witch of Endor enacted
spirit of Samuel, For
Saul, through necromancing
method, not Divine
Truth through 'The Source'
of God.

The intent of the King Saul
to ask For selfish purpose
questions, of the witch of
Endor was a sin, also.
(Versus) The deathbed contracts, of
unfinished, non-selfish circum-
stances matters of heritage
rights of laws, genetic
medical information, resolution
of love & hate issues
between family members . . .
**All non-not-selfish
reasons are under anointing.

This is why the gift of knowledge
is linked to the vision
of the deceased.
This memory is the visual, audio
"map" of the person in
their human characteristics,
to identify their identity
code. The deceased has a life code.

Then `SEERS` through visionary
Holy Spirit gift, accesses with gift
of "Word of Knowledge",
the anointed information,
received.

`SEERS` can access the "life
code". Which presents a image
of deceased, with
details within the person's
life code.

---> Hauntings are evil spirit's
which have "mimic" ability
to act like the deceased
Life code.

3rd heaven and/or Paradise
deceased of the garment of light
death, cannot be seized by
the evil spirit. They are protected ( note, this is open space )
however, Dark deceased, in Pergatory
can be accessed by evil spirit's
and these dark human's without garment of light
who are deceased, are
in Pergatory, suspect to
being used for
Hauntings via the
evil spirit who can
"mimic" the former
deceased human.

The angelic assistance
of Lazarus being carried to
bosom of Abraham, provides
proof that Hauntings
cannot be of the
"garment of Light" human, deceased parties.

Only dark human deceased without garments of Light
in Pergatory, can be seized
via evil spirit to mimic
Hauntings. The dark are not
protected deceased.
Hitler, would be a dark.
A child murderer would be a
dark, as an example of leaving
earth without the garment of Light.

Transformation through activating
garment of Light through Christ
blood, is atonement covering.
Like Lazarus carried by
angels to bosom of
Abraham, both Lazarus &
Abraham were in
Paradise realm of Heaven.

The visionary gift of
`SEERS` to access the
garment of Light
deceased is a Non-
selfish anointed Action.

The "Action" is allowed,
The necromancing is
denied, the
Living Family member's of
the garment of Light
deceased are assisted
with the word of
knowledge, `SEERS`
have been endowed
to provide.

Honor the life code rules.
Disengage in necromancy, Ouiji
Board parlor games.
The Life Code is not a game.

Mediums, versus "garment
of Light" Visionary
disciples are two
separate titles.

Disengage the term
mediumship. This word
applies to necromancy.

`SEERS` are a disciple of
the garment of Light, who
with Holy Ghost uses
their gift of visions, as
a Word of
Knowledge, For the
families of the
garment of Light deceased.

Enact the proper speech
with reference to the
gift title. The former is former.
The Present July 25, 2008
revelation is anointed
via the Word of God (IHVH)
(end of message )




````````````````````



RESEARCH :

When you see people who are in Paradise, you are visiting them in
a visionary revelations from God (IHVH). The Lord is allowing you to
see the dead earth form, to speak the things allowed ( revealed ), due to
certain things `not` to be spoken ( not revealed ) :

. . . " heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Have you ever noticed that only certain personality traits and
key-coded characteristics are allowed, for you to `speak` about ?

As in, what is revealed is 100% correct.

What is the Lord's business ( secret/not revealed ) is unspeakable words, which it is
not lawful for a man to utter.

Lazarus died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom,
Paradise. The angels travel to Paradise. We can travel to Paradise
and 3rd Heaven, also.

What did Christ say to the one thief on the Cross, :
"TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE"
(Luke 23:43)



http://www.godfire.net/eby/abrahams.html

The Parable
The Rich Man
Lazarus
The Deaths of the Rich Man and Lazarus
Abraham's Bosom
Lazarus In Abraham's Bosom
The Rich Man In Torment
The Great Gulf

"There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
'And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
"And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
"But Abraham said, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are tormented.
"And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from there to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.
"Then he said, I pray therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house:
"For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, unless they also come into this place of torment.
'Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
'And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead" (Luke 16:19-31).




http://users.belgacom.net/gc674645/heaven/2-3heavn.htm

A THIRD HEAVEN & A PARADISE?

St. Paul says in 2 Corintians chapter 12 verse 1:

"It is doubtless not expedient for me to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ more than fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows.) Such a one caught UP to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knows;) 4 How that he was caught UP into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Here St. Paul knew a Christian man, probably he is talking about himself,---whether in or out of a body he couldn't tell---who was one time caught UP to the third Heaven and the other was caught UP into Paradise!



http://yvonnelindsay.files.wordpress.com/2...aling_angel.jpg
signet


R'Shimon...
hope
rolleyes.gif Thank you Crownseven...very interesting post and I went to the Link. I've always stayed away from mediums and those who wish to call upon spirits. However, I've always believed that those kinds of gifts are given to those God intends to have them. We just have to be very careful. The post is most informative.

God's Love to YOU

Hope
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (hope @ Oct 12 2008, 11:44 PM) *
rolleyes.gif Thank you Crownseven...very interesting post and I went to the Link. I've always stayed away from mediums and those who wish to call upon spirits. However, I've always believed that those kinds of gifts are given to those God intends to have them. We just have to be very careful. The post is most informative.

God's Love to YOU

Hope



Blessings Hope --------------->


http://tednottingham.podomatic.com/mymedia...0x0_1071047.jpg

QUOTE (signet @ Oct 12 2008, 11:11 PM) *
R'Shimon...




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...so_Canto_31.jpg




Thinking of you, Signet !
crownsevenalphabet





http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek...ber/022931.html

Note what this has in common with the pseudepigraphical literature we
perused earlier: Paradise exists NOW, prepared for the righteous. Those
who were translated are there, and will remain there until the end.
This is the place to which the Apostle Paul was caught up and received
revelation, just like those seers in the Pseudepigrapha.


http://www.freecdtracts.com/images/Heaven_Paradise.jpg

When we come to the NT, it is not hard to identify many of the above
ideas. For example, in the book of Revelation Paradise is closely
associated with the heavenly New Jerusalem (Rev 22.1-3, 14f., 19), as
in 2 Baruch 4. Neither Paradise nor the City are identified with a
restored earth, but are rather distinguished from the new heavens and
new earth in that the New Jerusalem (in which is Paradise) is
*prepared* (hHTOIMASMENHN) and *comes down* (KATABAINOUSAN; cf. Rev
3.12) from God out of heaven *to* the new earth (Rev 21.1f.). According
to Revelation 2.7, the tree of life *is* (ESTIN, present tense) in the
Paradise of God (EN TWi PARADEISWi TOU QEOU). So the idea of a
preexistent Paradise being *revealed* eschatologically is clearly
present. What is important to note is that Paradise exists NOW and that
it is NOT synonymous with either the new earth or the kingdom of
God/Christ (cf. Rev 1.6, 9; 5.10; 11.15; 12.10).

In 2 Cor 12.2 Paul says he was "caught up" (hARPAGENTA) as far as the
"third heaven" (hEWS TRITOU OURANOU). As in some of the
pseudepigraphical material above, Paul equates this with being "caught
up" (hHRPAGH) into Paradise (EIS TON PARADEISON). Again it should be
noted that Paradise is a place that exists NOW. Additionally, it is
also a place that may be visited by human beings. And it is NOT
synonymous with Christ's kingdom (cf. 1 Cor 15.24). Does anyone really
think we could substitute EIS THN BASILEIAN TOU CRISTOU for EIS TON
PARADEISON here, as if they are interchangeable?


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