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This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.




ozell
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?

Adullam
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 04:24 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


righteousness
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Christ is the will of God for every believer. Christ is what everyone should be doing. This is what is meant by "puting on Christ".

Romans 13:14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


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QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 04:24 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


righteousness


Christ is righteousness.
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Examining the teachings of Christ.

21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.


Can anyone see how these verses are centered around humility and not allowing yourself to be based in the flesh of materialism?



Here Am I
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Obedience to the Word of God.

God alone is the one who saves us... and makes us righteous by the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. Works follow. Obedience. (John 14:15)
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QUOTE (Here Am I @ Aug 21 2008, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 03:24 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Obedience to the Word of God.

God alone is the one who saves us... and makes us righteous by the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. Works follow. Obedience. (John 14:15)


And if you have been obedient to the word that means you know the word and now have the word who was from the beginning living in you.


Examining the teachings of Christ.

21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.


Can anyone see how these verses are centered around humility and not allowing yourself to be based in the flesh of materialism?
Here Am I
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QUOTE (Here Am I @ Aug 21 2008, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 03:24 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Obedience to the Word of God.

God alone is the one who saves us... and makes us righteous by the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. Works follow. Obedience. (John 14:15)


And if you have been obedient to the word that means you know the word and now have the word who was from the beginning living in you.


Examining the teachings of Christ.


1 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.


Can anyone see how these verses are centered around humility and not allowing yourself to be based in the flesh of materialism?



YES.
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 06:31 PM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Aug 21 2008, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 03:24 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 20 2008, 01:48 AM) *
This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Obedience to the Word of God.

God alone is the one who saves us... and makes us righteous by the atoning sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. Works follow. Obedience. (John 14:15)


And if you have been obedient to the word that means you know the word and now have the word who was from the beginning living in you.


Examining the teachings of Christ.


1 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.


Can anyone see how these verses are centered around humility and not allowing yourself to be based in the flesh of materialism?



YES.



Praise God
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In other words do all that is necessary to not sin. Even to the point of gouging your own eyes out. That is an extreme teaching.

27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.





ozell
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 21 2008, 12:35 AM) *
In other words do all that is necessary to not sin. Even to the point of gouging your own eyes out. That is an extreme teaching.

27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.



amen

are you saying walk as Jesus walked

do as Jesus did

yes no man is perfect and all have sinned

yet the apsotles are flesh and blood and they were men and they sinned

but they where called christians

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

a christians is a follower of Jesus

as some here have humbly stated the will of Jesus and the Father is

obedience
righteousness

thank God it is people on this site who understand that the will of the Father and Jesus is keeping the commandments

obedience to what? his word

righteousness is acheive by keeping his words


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QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 21 2008, 09:03 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 21 2008, 12:35 AM) *
In other words do all that is necessary to not sin. Even to the point of gouging your own eyes out. That is an extreme teaching.

27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.



amen

are you saying walk as Jesus walked

do as Jesus did

yes no man is perfect and all have sinned

yet the apsotles are flesh and blood and they were men and they sinned

but they where called christians

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

a christians is a follower of Jesus

as some here have humbly stated the will of Jesus and the Father is

obedience
righteousness

thank God it is people on this site who understand that the will of the Father and Jesus is keeping the commandments

obedience to what? his word

righteousness is acheive by keeping his words


Amen ozell

Put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts. Romans 13:14

Do as Christ showed as an example.






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These following verses from Matthew 5 are broken by everyone who signs their name and forswears themselves against the teachings of Christ.

33 "Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.' 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
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I guess I should look and see who has been preaching these truths here prior? Or should I just Praise god because everyone here already knows these things? I am going to Praise God anyway so I Praise You Lord.
Jake William
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 21 2008, 12:35 AM) *
In other words do all that is necessary to not sin. Even to the point of gouging your own eyes out. That is an extreme teaching.

27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.



amen

are you saying walk as Jesus walked

do as Jesus did

yes no man is perfect and all have sinned

yet the apsotles are flesh and blood and they were men and they sinned

but they where called christians

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

a christians is a follower of Jesus

as some here have humbly stated the will of Jesus and the Father is

obedience
righteousness

thank God it is people on this site who understand that the will of the Father and Jesus is keeping the commandments

obedience to what? his word

righteousness is acheive by keeping his words


Hi Ozell,

You stated, "are you saying walk as Jesus walked ... do as Jesus did."

Do not mean to be coy brother, but have you walked on water yet, have you brought people back to life as He "did" with Lazarus? It is true that righteousness is acheived by keeping His word, but by faith in Christ to perform His righteousness IN US. ... For example, we are to "keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12. Faith and obedience is not entirely the same thing, if that were so, they would have the same "original" meanings. I believe the message of Rev. 14:12 is that through the "faith of Jesus" we keep the commandments. Hence, it is faith which works, not faith plus works.

Do not take me wrong, I believe I know what you mean, just wanted to make sure that it is Christ's righteousness, not mine. I like to think of obedience as rendering our whole being to Christ, a person. If I say, "I need to be obedient to His commandments," then it can become "law driven" instead of "Christ driven", the true motivation, from the heart, if you will.


blessings in Christ,
Jake William
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QUOTE (Jake William @ Aug 23 2008, 02:47 AM) *
You stated, "are you saying walk as Jesus walked ... do as Jesus did."

Do not mean to be coy brother, but have you walked on water yet, have you brought people back to life as He "did" with Lazarus? It is true that righteousness is acheived by keeping His word, but by faith in Christ to perform His righteousness IN US. ... For example, we are to "keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12. Faith and obedience is not entirely the same thing, if that were so, they would have the same "original" meanings. I believe the message of Rev. 14:12 is that through the "faith of Jesus" we keep the commandments. Hence, it is faith which works, not faith plus works.

Do not take me wrong, I believe I know what you mean, just wanted to make sure that it is Christ's righteousness, not mine. I like to think of obedience as rendering our whole being to Christ, a person. If I say, "I need to be obedient to His commandments," then it can become "law driven" instead of "Christ driven", the true motivation, from the heart, if you will.


blessings in Christ,
Jake William


Just wanted to remind everyone that you can not keep the original law of Leviticus even if you tried. At least not in the civilized nations of earth.This is because they will not let you kill animals as a sacrifice which is part of the Law.

If you want to be righteous in the sight of God you must strive to be Christ like. That is work and is the works of righteousness. The works of the Levitical law, No one in this time, Including the Jews of the flesh in Israel, do it or even know how to do it. Everyone including Christians have mutated to doing their own thing for God. And none of it is what God asked for. God ask you to be imitators of God as dear Children and came and showed you the example. The Way, The Truth and the Life.


Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.
ozell

Do not mean to be coy brother, but have you walked on water yet, have you brought people back to life as He "did" with Lazarus?

not yet brother Jake

but one day I will

the Lord said

2Pt 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

I know how, I have to get the proper amount of faith.

Jesus said

Mt 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.


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It is true that righteousness is acheived by keeping His word, but by faith in Christ to perform His righteousness IN US. ... For example, we are to "keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12. Faith and obedience is not entirely the same thing, if that were so, they would have the same "original" meanings. I believe the message of Rev. 14:12 is that through the "faith of Jesus" we keep the commandments. Hence, it is faith which works, not faith plus works.


in order to have faith

Rom 10v

9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

a person must hear first
once the person hear about Jesus and all that comes with him then comes faith
faith brings about obedience, and obedience brings about righteousness

but in all this a person must grow in grace and the knowledge of God.

it is a process for this creation called man.

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Do not take me wrong, I believe I know what you mean, just wanted to make sure that it is Christ's righteousness, not mine. I like to think of obedience as rendering our whole being to Christ, a person. If I say, "I need to be obedient to His commandments," then it can become "law driven" instead of "Christ driven", the true motivation, from the heart, if you will.


what righteousness can we initially claim?

what commandments did we write?

who's words are we following? Jesus

so who's righteousness is it? Jesus

then it is Christ righteousness!!!

so Jesus is the driver and we are his passengers, either we stay for the ride or we jump out.


Peace in Jesus brother Jake

hope to see you around a lot.
ozell

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Just wanted to remind everyone that you can not keep the original law of Leviticus even if you tried. At least not in the civilized nations of earth.This is because they will not let you kill animals as a sacrifice which is part of the Law.

If you want to be righteous in the sight of God you must strive to be Christ like. That is work and is the works of righteousness. The works of the Levitical law, No one in this time, Including the Jews of the flesh in Israel, do it or even know how to do it. Everyone including Christians have mutated to doing their own thing for God. And none of it is what God asked for. God ask you to be imitators of God as dear Children and came and showed you the example. The Way, The Truth and the Life.


Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.


when you say Laws of leviticus are not to be kept hopefully you ONLY mean the laws of animal sacrifice.

this is the law that is done away with.

I say this because there many laws in Leviticus that are to be kept.

Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

in the NT we find the gentiles breaking this one

1Cor 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

these are to be kept also

Lev 19:13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

Lev 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Lev 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Jesus never sacrifced a animal.

He obeyed, he commited no sin, meaning he broke no law.

no need tosacrifice animals for sin. not one committed.

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QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 23 2008, 01:00 PM) *
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Just wanted to remind everyone that you can not keep the original law of Leviticus even if you tried. At least not in the civilized nations of earth.This is because they will not let you kill animals as a sacrifice which is part of the Law.

If you want to be righteous in the sight of God you must strive to be Christ like. That is work and is the works of righteousness. The works of the Levitical law, No one in this time, Including the Jews of the flesh in Israel, do it or even know how to do it. Everyone including Christians have mutated to doing their own thing for God. And none of it is what God asked for. God ask you to be imitators of God as dear Children and came and showed you the example. The Way, The Truth and the Life.


Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.


when you say Laws of leviticus are not to be kept hopefully you ONLY mean the laws of animal sacrifice.

this is the law that is done away with.

I say this because there many laws in Leviticus that are to be kept.

Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

in the NT we find the gentiles breaking this one

1Cor 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

these are to be kept also

Lev 19:13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

Lev 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Lev 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Jesus never sacrifced a animal.

He obeyed, he commited no sin, meaning he broke no law.

no need tosacrifice animals for sin. not one committed.

If you have done all you can to find out who Christ is and what He taught and you are imitating Him as a dear child. You can't sin against God. This is The Way The Truth and The Light.
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Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Ephesians 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children.



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That's right! If you talk about what you are supposed to be doing. Then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of
God and you will start doing it and actually get saved. For real.
endtime
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 24 2008, 05:08 AM) *
That's right! If you talk about what you are supposed to be doing. Then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God and you will start doing it and actually get saved. For real.


The other choice is the wrath of God that is about to fall for those who would not listen.


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Talking about doing the will of God is a dead topic. Isn't it?

Isaiah 29
13 Therefore the Lord said: "Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths And honor Me with their lips, But have removed their hearts far from Me, And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men,
14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work Among this people, A marvelous work and a wonder; For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden."
15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from the Lord, And their works are in the dark; They say, "Who sees us?" and, "Who knows us?"
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John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 30 2008, 11:01 PM) *
John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."


labor for the food that endures to everlasting Life, which the Son of man will give you.
damo7
the one who does the will of the father does not get involved in the politics of his country he lives in he does not get involved and support pro life supporters picketing against abortion he does not waste the gifts god has given him he watches over the weak does not accept a doctrine that wil trap him he speaks nothing but the truth and sniffs out the flakes and he heeds the warnings in the bible

its al in the bible paul did this a fair bit and he was good at picking out the flakes

Jesus did not get involved in the politics of the roaman empire he said my kingdom is not of this earth John 18 v 36



John 18 English standard version

36 Jesus answered my kingdom is not of this world if my kingdom were of this world my servants would have been fighting that i might not be delivered over to the Jews But my kingdom is not from the world



Leviticus 18 English standard version


4 You shall follow my rules and keep my statutes and walk in them I am the lord your God

5 You shall therefore keep my statutes and my rules if a person does them he shall live by them I am the lord


Leviticus 19 English standard version

11 you shall not steal you shall not deal falsely you shall not lie to one another

14 You shall not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block before the blind but you shall fear your God I am the lord





John 3 English standard version

17 For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life

18 For God did not send his into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him


remember what you left me endtime how you thought you needed to rebuke me in love and tell my i was straying of the path ?

is this new study of yours set up for pro life supporters who only stick to certain scriptures they are comfterbal with ?



Deuteronomy 13 English standard version

1 If a prophet or dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder

2 and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass and if he says let us go after other Gods Which you have not known and let us serve him

3 You shall not listen to that prophet or dreamer of dreams For the lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul


know befor you try to correct me or rebuke me in love and tell me i need christ listen to what Jesus has to say



John 10 English standard version

8 All who come before me are thieves and robbers but the sheep did not listen to them

9 I am the door if anyone enters by me he wil be saved and wil go in and out and find pasture

10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy I came that they may have life and live abundantly

11 I am the good shepherd the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep

12 He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd who does not own the sheep sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees and the wolf snatches them and scatters them

13 He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep

14 I am the good shepherd I know my own and my own know me

15 Just as the father knows me and i know the father and I lay down my life for the sheep

16 And i have other sheep that are not of this fold I must bring them also and they will listen to my voice so there will be one flock one shepherd


he has other sheep who are not of this flock because i am pro choice does not give you the right to say i need christ

i hold no grudge towards you or what you had left me this wil show me if this study is set up for pro life supporters



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damo7
1 Timothy 4 English standard version


1 Now the spirit expressly says that in later times some wil depart from the faith by devoting themselves to the teachings of demons

2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared

3 Who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created ro be received with thanks giving by those who believe and know the truth

4 For everthing created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving

5 For it is made holy by the word of God and prayer

6 If you put these things before the brothers you wil be a good servant of Christ Jesus being trained in the word of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed

7 Have nothing to do with irreverent silly myths rather train your self for godliness

8 For while bodily training is of some value godliness is of value in everyway as it holds the promise for the present life and also for the life to come




1 John 2 English standard version

24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you If what you heard from the beginning abides in you then you to will abide in the son and the father

25 And this is the promise that he made to us eternal life

26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you

27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you and you have no need that anyone should teach you But as his anointing teaches you about everything and is true and is no lie just as it taught you abide in him



i dont need to abide in you endtime or do i need to abide in your teachings you leave in this forum i have seen how you treat those who you disagree with how you treat certain members endtime we have people coming hear for fellowship for some one to encourage them has anyone given there heart to the lord has a member been able to reach out to a non believer has anyone received christ ?



we dont need guys like you saying the church is weak the church has fallen the church is not as powere less as the church was in his time

this is satans world this world worships satan not you or what you have to say endtime

how about you get your head out of the sand and take a good look at what is going on around you endtime

guys like you wil be dealt with i can handle the truth endtime nothing you leave me will shock me endtime i would rather deal with real men then deal with a pussy who thinks he has a grasp on what gods son said when he was walking this earth



so tell me endtime do you see your self as a teacher ? if you see your self as a teacher tell me endtime what wil hapen to those who lead his people astray ? what wil hapen to the teachers who reject those that god sends to us ?


a new christian does not need some one like you endtime telling them they need to abide in you a new christian needs to go over 1 John 2 and take on what 1 john 2 v 27 is saying

i would rather hold the bible and holy spirit in higher regard than hold some one i dont know in higher regard all i need is the holy spirits teaching not some unstable man who thinks he has a grasp on what christ had to say


wel endtime what is the gospel of Jesus since tsth sees you as a prophet who is wise can you tel me what is the gospel of Jesus and i wil tell you what my bible has to say since this is your study






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Jake William
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Do not mean to be coy brother, but have you walked on water yet, have you brought people back to life as He "did" with Lazarus?

not yet brother Jake

but one day I will

the Lord said

2Pt 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

I know how, I have to get the proper amount of faith.

Jesus said

Mt 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.


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It is true that righteousness is acheived by keeping His word, but by faith in Christ to perform His righteousness IN US. ... For example, we are to "keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12. Faith and obedience is not entirely the same thing, if that were so, they would have the same "original" meanings. I believe the message of Rev. 14:12 is that through the "faith of Jesus" we keep the commandments. Hence, it is faith which works, not faith plus works.


in order to have faith

Rom 10v

9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

a person must hear first
once the person hear about Jesus and all that comes with him then comes faith
faith brings about obedience, and obedience brings about righteousness

but in all this a person must grow in grace and the knowledge of God.

it is a process for this creation called man.

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Do not take me wrong, I believe I know what you mean, just wanted to make sure that it is Christ's righteousness, not mine. I like to think of obedience as rendering our whole being to Christ, a person. If I say, "I need to be obedient to His commandments," then it can become "law driven" instead of "Christ driven", the true motivation, from the heart, if you will.


what righteousness can we initially claim?

what commandments did we write?

who's words are we following? Jesus

so who's righteousness is it? Jesus

then it is Christ righteousness!!!

so Jesus is the driver and we are his passengers, either we stay for the ride or we jump out.


Peace in Jesus brother Jake

hope to see you around a lot.



Hi Ozell,

John baptized Jesus, yet, according to SCRIPTURE alone, we do not ever read that John performed any "outward miracle." ... May we stay with humility when it comes to miracles, not to get caught up in the spectacular. Why do I say this? Millions of Christians were martyred for Christ's sake, yet they did not necessarily perform any outward miracle, ... they DIED at the hands of the arch enemy!

When we take scripture and turn it into some kind of "magic" miracle working power, then we have not been humbled in the eyes of the Lord. How many people in the scripture "moved whole mountains?" You may have read the scripture out of context brother. Elijah was running away from Jezebel, a woman, who he was "afraid" of, yet God lifted Him to heaven without dying. .... John did baptise Jesus and felt totally "unworthy." There is a difference between "faith" and presumption my friend. ... May we at least "attempt" to show some humility and "unworthiness" to perform any act in Christ.

The miracle performing actor evanglelist I believe will be what Christ was talking of, "LORD, have I not done GREAT things?" In other words, those supposed "miracles" may not have been at the hand of God. "For if a man think himself to be something, when he is NOTHING, he deceives himself." Gal. 6:3. ... I am absolutely nothing.

May we lift up the GOSPEL equal with the commandments someday. Christ died on the cross so you can keep the commandments. If we preach soley sanctification without justification then we have failed miserabley as Christians. blessings to you dear brother. Ony the Cross can MELT hearts, so that we can "keep" the commandments. If we simply tell people they need to keep the commandments without the message of the cross, then "Christ died in vain."

Jake
Here Am I
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John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."


labor for the food that endures to everlasting Life, which the Son of man will give you.



"I AM THE LIVING BREAD which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever"
John 6:51

"I AM THAT BREAD of life."
-John 6:48

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
-John 6:37

"I PRAY FOR THEM: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."
-John 17:9

"And THIS IS THE FATHER'S WILL which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."
John 6:39


endtime
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QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 30 2008, 11:01 PM) *
John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."


labor for the food that endures to everlasting Life, which the Son of man will give you.



"I AM THE LIVING BREAD which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever"
John 6:51

"I AM THAT BREAD of life."
-John 6:48

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
-John 6:37

"I PRAY FOR THEM: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."
-John 17:9

"And THIS IS THE FATHER'S WILL which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."
John 6:39




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Here Am I
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QUOTE (Here Am I @ Nov 4 2008, 09:45 PM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Nov 4 2008, 12:42 AM) *
QUOTE (endtime @ Aug 30 2008, 11:01 PM) *
John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."


labor for the food that endures to everlasting Life, which the Son of man will give you.



"I AM THE LIVING BREAD which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever"
John 6:51

"I AM THAT BREAD of life."
-John 6:48

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
-John 6:37

"I PRAY FOR THEM: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."
-John 17:9

"And THIS IS THE FATHER'S WILL which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."
John 6:39




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endtime
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QUOTE (endtime @ Nov 5 2008, 08:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Nov 4 2008, 09:45 PM) *
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John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."


labor for the food that endures to everlasting Life, which the Son of man will give you.



"I AM THE LIVING BREAD which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever"
John 6:51

"I AM THAT BREAD of life."
-John 6:48

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."
-John 6:37

"I PRAY FOR THEM: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."
-John 17:9

"And THIS IS THE FATHER'S WILL which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."
John 6:39




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endtime
Matthew 16
24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.

Mark 8
34 When He had called the people to Himself, with His disciples also, He said to them, "Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.

Luke 9
23 Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.








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Mysteryman
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QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 20 2008, 08:24 AM) *
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This bible Study will Look at what those who claim Christ should be doing.

Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of God, but he who does the will of My Father.


and the will is?


Christ is the will of God for every believer. Christ is what everyone should be doing. This is what is meant by "puting on Christ".

Romans 13:14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.






Amen

IN Christ - Christ IN - M M
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