The end of the world is the beginning of the Lord's kingdom. Do you know what will take Place in the very near future? You can use the bible if you like to back up your claims. Or you can just spill it all out there and use scripture for those who don't know all the bible, later. Because I will use it in all languages and translations to show you that you don't have a clue about what is coming. If you can not stand up under stern but loving scrutiny, then please don't get involved in this discussion, because I will hurt your feelings if you hold on to false teachings after you have been shown the truth.


Shall we begin?

Ok. Go. If you say it, they will come.

You don't know then? They will come anyway and all that the Lord wants known will be revealed.

I know what I've read, but, go ahead and share what you have.

Creation is about to go into labor for a start. Tell us what you believe and especially what you have come to know for sure.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Only the Father knows the time and day because if word got out, Satan would find out, and, would muster his fallen angels to war with God's angels. And they'd slow them down, just like the one in Daniel

How's that?!

Satan wouldn't believe you if you told him. As you will find out when this thread really gets under way. Besides you have a debased foundation for angels. The scripture should read.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the messengers from God's throne, neither the Son, but the Father only.

I was just checking to see if you had the Holy Spirit.

1Jn 2:27 And as for you, the anointing which ye received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any one teach you; but as his anointing teacheth you; concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, ye abide in him.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.


Enjoy your time here.

Yes, what has come before! (Psalm 106)



In His Love,
Suzanne

Yes indeed! It has all come before. Not specifically and exactly the same. but all the same types and pasterns and for the same spiritual reasons.

"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." Luke 17:26-27

We are definitely kindred in Spirit.


In His Love,
Suzanne

Definitely

1 Corinthians 6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

Isaiah 11:2 The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.

Amen Here Am I

This verse that you have quoted from the bible is the preamble to the great tribulation that will kill two thirds of the population of the earth. The birth pains of a Holy Nation.

"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth." -Genesis 7:4

"And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in." --7:16

"Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." -2 Peter 3:6-8

If you are leading up to being raptured into the barn of heaven that would be wrong.
If you are leading up to being watched out for and brought through it by the Spirit of God that would be correct.

Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass in all the land," Says the Lord, "That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die, But one-third shall be left in it:
9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; And each one will say, 'The Lord is my God.' "

No. I do not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.

Angels sent to gather the elect
Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Good and bad Angels warring
Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel; for from the first day that thou didst set thy heart to understand, and to humble thyself before thy God, thy words were heard: and I am come for thy words' sake.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days; but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me: and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

God isn't being mean by not letting us know the time and day, it's a matter of necessity. Angels are being sent to gather the elect, and, fallen angels fight good ones. It would hold things up. It's a sneak attack.

The only fallen messengers that will fight against Christ's messengers have guns and airplanes knives and tanks. Go to the thread on false doctrines and bring these thing up and we will discuss it there.

The messenger that will gather Christ's elect is a lightning bolt flashing from the eastern sky to the western sky. Remember the burning bush was a angel.

The interpretation didn't come from man, or woman, why would I put it under false doctrines?

God is going to send his prophets. God's prophets will speak the word and remove their enemies by fire from the sky. Your interpretation of fallen angels is an interpretation of man and not God. God does not have to be careful or quiet because there is no one who can come against Him. You don't know what angels are but I am going to tell you they are messengers. They don't have to be People or even living. God spoke to Moses out of His messenger burning bush. God spoke to Job out of His messenger whirlwind. God will use the messenger Lightning to gather His elect from the four winds.

Invasion of Israel by great nation to the "remote North" [and allies] as per Ezekiel 38-39.

World amazing public reappearance of the final "beast" as per Revelaion 13.

Then 42 month reign of "beast"s

culminating with coming of Jesus in power as per Rev. 19

That won't happen at all John Prewett.
When God sends His messengers to remove the water from earth then the 42 months begin with all the nations of earth being put on notice of death. Two thirds of the population will die because they would not leave the beast and go find faith in Christ alone. One third will survive to the coming of the Lord.

After the heavens are closed and the water is removed from the earth Things will dry up very rapidly. One of the first plagues that will be administered by the Lord's prophets is burning heat worldwide. It will be on an average of 130 degrees everywhere on earth in the daytime. This will baffle the science world and after months of trying to figure out what is happening they will stop caring because they will realize that they are dieing with everyone else.

The next plague to be administered by the Lord's Prophets will be swarms of chewing stinging and consuming insects all over the world. They will devour every plant tree and growing thing on earth as well as kill many people. People will become very sinister and vile Hurting and killing each other over what ever they have that can be taken from them. At this point it is better to own and have nothing and be living by faith in the Lord alone, who will feed and water His sheep by faith.

By this time the great tribulation is well underway world wide. The insects will disappear and leave man with nothing but faith to live on. All of the weak who do not have faith in the Lord to eat and drink will hunt birds and animals until they are all gone. When they are all gone they will turn on each other for food and drink..

The coming of the following is just as certain as the coming of sundown.

Revelation 13

1 And the dragon[a] stood on the shore of the sea.

And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads,

with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion.

The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound,

but the fatal wound had been healed.

The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.

4Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast,

and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"

5The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months.

6He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.

7He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.

And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.

8All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—

all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.[b]

Invasion of Israel by Russia and allies as per Ezekiel 38-39 is also certain.

Those verses from revelation are true enough if you understand the symbolism spoken to Daniel by the messenger of God. The beast and the dragon are the nations tribes and tongues of the earth. There will be no invasion of Israel by Russia. It will be an Invasion of the world By Gods two prophets. God will kill all of the armies of the world at this time.


Isaiah 34:1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it. 2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter. 3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.

Forum diarhea

Actually I must disagree with you. They are speaking biblical while you must interfere in a negative manner. BTW- didn't you say you were leaving this forum? Anyway it is you that sprouts the forum diahea all over the place. So perhaps you can leave so that we might houseclean this home?

Al

Isn't there something you can take for that. I'll Pray for you anyways.

Rev says the dragon is Satan.

Rev says the "beast" is a "king".

Further Rev reference to the two final "beast"s is in keeping with their being two MEN.

You presently think you have a special understanding.

What you presently have is serious misunderstanding.

One can believe you, or one can believe what the Bible says. But not both.

Where does revelation say that the beast is a King? The verses you posted don't say that. You are the one claiming things that are not written. I have only showed you what is written. You should read the rest of the bible and try to understand it with lots of prayer and fasting before you Jump into the revelation.

9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.

11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king.

He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

That verse does not say that the beast is a king it says that the beast was and is not. How can something that is Gone and is not be a king? You are not grasping the riddle in the verse.

Actually...it does say "he is the eighth" and does say he is the beast. He is the king of Babylon. And, the seven kings with him are supernatural kings.....fallen angels, that will rule with him during his "great tribulation, also known as the....."hour of temptation."

He "was" because he was king of Tyrus in the first age, he "is not" because Christ said, "get behind me Satan" and he is now in heaven being held by Michael. He "will be" king again when he comes to earth in the end of days, pretending to be Christ. Be prepared!

Who is the eighth you haven't established who he is yet? You gonna keep piling more dung on dung? It doesn't say any of that. You and your teachers said that. But it is not in the Word of God.

Of course it is the Word of God.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Those three scriptures (not dung) tell us that the beast is the eighth king that comes out of the bottomless pit and after his short time on earth then goes into perdition.


The chapter is teaching about who Mystery Babylon is and she is the great city....idolatry and her king is...the king of Babylon. That is none other than the beast, the eighth king, the son of perdition.....SATAN!

It does not say that. "The beast that was and is not" . define this first without adding anything from yours or anyone else's imagination to it.

8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder,
whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,


when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10And there are seven kings:


five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him,
with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

"him, he, false prophet, both" Plainly this refers to two MEN

The final supreme "beast" is a king. A king is a MAN.

The final supreme "beast" is a man who will have all that Satan can give and will temporarily, publically rule the world.

This man will have had a terrible head wound that the world knows about. The world is amazed that this person is alive.

This man will have been "ridden by the Great Whore". So I am confident this man was known as a Roman Catholic.

This man had to have been world famous, because the world cannot be amazed by someone the world never heard of.

Famous, Roman Catholic, terrible head wound, mysterious alleged death,...

beloved of the mass media, ......

strange autopsy [example: drawings of wounds instead of photos]

public does not see corpse [closed casket funeral], only a handful of people really know what was in the casket,

Highly controversial government report regarding the shooting [alleged murder].

Would Jesus allow such apparent fulfillment to occur by "coincidence" ? No.

A King can be a man but He is definitely a title for a type. So you could have a whole nation of Kings as the Romans thought they were to all other races. Everyone in America is a King using the Kings Signature to swear against God. A beast in the book of Daniel as explained to Daniel by the Messenger of God is a King and His Kingdom or just a Kingdom. A Kingdom today is a nation.

You have added imagination to it and that doesn't stand in the truth.

Daniel 7:23 "Thus he said: 'The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth, Which shall be different from all other kingdoms, And shall devour the whole earth, Trample it and break it in pieces.

Turning on each other for food and drink and eating each others flesh is the abomination of desolation.

Endtime, your above scenario simply is not what the Revelation describes.

All who bother to read the Revelation can deduce this for themself.

Wow, this is a fascinating thread.
I especially like the way End Time kicked it off with the utter conviction of being right, right from the get go.
It must me nice to be so sure of one's case.

Now, lest we forget, the people who hung around with Jesus were convinced that the world would end and that Jesus would return in their life time.

Today, some Christians, also believe that the world will end in their life time.

In the intervening 2000 years, Christians thought that the world would end in their life time.

I don't know about you fine ladies and gents, but I am getting tired of waiting.

Let's get it over with and let the massacre of the unjust ( that would be me) begin.

I don't mind a wrathful and violent god but I don't care for procrastination at all.

V.


PS. For all you Donnie Darko fans: According to Frank the rabbit... in 28 days, 4 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds......that is when the world will end.