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NIGHTMARE
Lets keep it simple, and keep our pesonal life storys out of it.........

This is gonna be easy

2 quick questions to begin,,,,,,question 1 -- Do you believe that the kenites are the sons or offspring of Cain?????

Heres the defintion of "kenite" from the strongs concordance::

7014 Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).

question 2 Do you believe that the flood killed all the kenites?????






NIGHTMARE
Jeopardy music playing........
Here Am I
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Jeopardy music playing........


Maybe this will help.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeW0rBVgMPQ
Simple
Its terrible. I'd prefer something like 'Eye of the Tiger'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU...feature=related
Here Am I
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 18 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Its terrible. I'd prefer something like 'Eye of the Tiger'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU...feature=related



Hey... whatever works!
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 18 2008, 08:30 PM) *
Its terrible. I'd prefer something like 'Eye of the Tiger'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU...feature=related



Probley more like Drago v.s. Apollo Creed,,,,,,Im Drago.....
researcher
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 02:34 PM) *
Jeopardy music playing........


That's totally funny, lol
damo7
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Lets keep it simple, and keep our pesonal life storys out of it.........

This is gonna be easy

2 quick questions to begin,,,,,,question 1 -- Do you believe that the kenites are the sons or offspring of Cain?????

Heres the defintion of "kenite" from the strongs concordance::

7014 Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).

question 2 Do you believe that the flood killed all the kenites?????



what was asked is you set up a topic wise one and teach what you know that way this can be lined up with gods word


so you think this is going to be an all out boxing match hay wise one


well make me look stupid so everyone hear can see how wise nightbaby is


from damo
Maz
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:12 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Lets keep it simple, and keep our pesonal life storys out of it.........

This is gonna be easy

2 quick questions to begin,,,,,,question 1 -- Do you believe that the kenites are the sons or offspring of Cain?????

Heres the defintion of "kenite" from the strongs concordance::

7014 Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).

question 2 Do you believe that the flood killed all the kenites?????



what was asked is you set up a topic wise one and teach what you know that way this can be lined up with gods word


so you think this is going to be an all out boxing match hay wise one


well make me look stupid so everyone hear can see how wise nightbaby is


from damo

Now I know you are mad you never said God Bless from Damo....
damo7



know lets get to buisness if you say you are a student

do you nightmare follow this guys teaching pastor Harry church of philadelphia internet


hear is this clowns web site its like he also has the same views as you nightbaby oh if this was a boxing match i would have knocked your block off so lets cut out the jepordy music nightman

www.satansrapture.com


did i sugest that i wanted to get into a soap box debate with you nightmare ?

i know what Genesis says to the way i understand it but its going to be intresting to see you try to get me to come around


now respond to my request do you follow this guys teaching false one


when you respond to my question i wil respond to what you are wanting me to answer



from damo
researcher
QUOTE (Maz @ Aug 18 2008, 09:14 PM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:12 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Lets keep it simple, and keep our pesonal life storys out of it.........

This is gonna be easy

2 quick questions to begin,,,,,,question 1 -- Do you believe that the kenites are the sons or offspring of Cain?????

Heres the defintion of "kenite" from the strongs concordance::

7014 Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).

question 2 Do you believe that the flood killed all the kenites?????



what was asked is you set up a topic wise one and teach what you know that way this can be lined up with gods word


so you think this is going to be an all out boxing match hay wise one


well make me look stupid so everyone hear can see how wise nightbaby is


from damo

Now I know you are mad you never said God Bless from Damo....


Lol. I noticed that too! 0_0 Lol.
damo7
QUOTE (Maz @ Aug 18 2008, 11:14 PM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 18 2008, 09:12 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Lets keep it simple, and keep our pesonal life storys out of it.........

This is gonna be easy

2 quick questions to begin,,,,,,question 1 -- Do you believe that the kenites are the sons or offspring of Cain?????

Heres the defintion of "kenite" from the strongs concordance::

7014 Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).

question 2 Do you believe that the flood killed all the kenites?????



what was asked is you set up a topic wise one and teach what you know that way this can be lined up with gods word


so you think this is going to be an all out boxing match hay wise one


well make me look stupid so everyone hear can see how wise nightbaby is


from damo

Now I know you are mad you never said God Bless from Damo....




paul also rebuked peter i dont tend to say god bless you to this false teacher i just want to see what he has to say i wil be kind and i wil not insult him he feels we are in a soap box debate which is not what i wanted i wanted this wise one to set up a new topic and write down how he sees what happend in the garden he knows how i see what happend in the garden but will not acept this maz

i just passed my security course that is why i am home early maz its 2.29pm in Australia i wil be know sitting for my fire arms licence

god has opened up a door where i can be effective for him and my trainer is know asking me questions


but when it comes to this forum maz i feel that jesus died for the wise ones like this false teacher so may be its no use for some dumb hick like my self sharing this gospel to my trainer who listened to what i had to say i might have to redirect my trainer to wise ones like nightbaby


hay i can handle my self in this topic i am fine


God bles from damo smile.gif
damo7
Genesis 3 what happend between adam and eve the forbbiden fruit and the devil has been a mystery for almost 3500 yrs


the following theory is based upon two factors


1 satan had the ability to have sex and reproduce


2 the forbiden fruit was human sexuality



and eve tempted by the serpant ate of the fruit from the tree of knowledge and her eyes were opened


and after that eve gave the fruit to adam and he too ate of the fruit from the tree of knowledge




there is zero mention of adam and eve having sex i.e knowing and children before they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil despite the fact they lived in the garden and both were naked


these factors seem to indicate the forbbiden fruit and its knowledge of good and evil is human sexuality


lets look at Genesis 3 nightmare and you show me what i am missing by what i have left you



so the serpant satan succssfully temps eve to eat the forbbiden fruit and everything changed innocence was lost


the shame of adam and eve clearly shows a new kind knowledge and awerness of sexuality and their own nakedness


know verse by verse from Genesis 3 nightmare show me where sex came into the picture


put the verses up and show me were satan had sex with eve



it does not worry me if you tend to make me look stupid nightmare i just want to see how wise you really are

from damo
damo7


your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo
damo7



weighting weighting weighting eye of the tiger does not bother me i just saw rocky 5 on the weekend and i loved it hay ask sister chloe what i look like nightmare if you were to meet me in person i wonder what your tone would be towards me

i dont play nice and i am like this as a real person i have nothing to hide nightmare i tend to hang out with men not little boys i dont show two faces when i am in church what you see is what you get




from damo
damo7
also lets take a look at this verse



Genesis 3 14 - 15


And the lord God said unto the serpant Because thou hast done this thou art cursed above every beast of the field upon thy belly shalt thou go and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life and i wil put enmity between thee and the women and between thy seed and her seed it shall bruise thy head and thou shal bruise his heel

seed can mean anything nightmare if you are a farmer it can be seeds he uses to plant on his property


know when God was rebuking the devil hear and punished him for what he did did God say satan i am punishing you for seducing eve did he say i am punishing you for having sexual intercoures with eve

share some light show me were god punished satan for having sex with eve ?





what i am looking at to see were the serpant seed falls is this the tree of life tree of knowledge off good and evil in the midst of the garden eat fruit

i know fruit does not always refer to the literal fruit


also we are in two diffrent countrys i am in Australia and i dont sit looking at a screen all day i walk out the door by 7.30am and get home by 5pm wed nights i attend a course my church is running so i wil not be home until 10pm my time

so this is why i am responding now that way you dont tend to think that i have walked away from your topic you set up


also Garden does not mean Garden it also means soul

the word eat to many simply means to consume food with the mouth to eat means to partake proverbs 30 - 20 gives a good rendition of the word it tells of an adulteress women who had partaken adultery that is she lay with a man who was not her husband and then said she had done no evil also i looked at psalm 127 . 2 proverbs 1 v 31 13 v 2 jeremiah 15 v 16 Hosea 10 v 13 john 6 v 56



word eat in hebrew means lay




for us simple people fruit means fruit thats it not what i am picking up by what i am looking at know but i tend not to believe that eve had sexual intercourse with satan while her husband was not far from her for satan to get away with this he would have had to knock adam out and put him into a deep sleep dude i know if i was to wake up and find a man seducing my new fiance who soon wil be my wife i would belt him


for eve to have done this she would be seen as and adulteres and by the old law adam would have been able to divorce her and have her kicked out of the garden why did god punish adam eve and satan god could have spared adam and punished eve had her kicked out of the garden and then dealt with satan and spared adam as adam was inocent until she encouraged him to eat the fruit which means she encouraged adam to lay with her as by what i am picking up


they were both innocent until she took the first bite if we tend to look at it your way



from damo



from damo
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM) *
your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo



I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....

You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18

Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers


Dude your cracking me up,,,

Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....


your wrong and heres the proof


The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....

But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,


Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say

Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......


Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,

It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......




damo7
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 AM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM) *
your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo



I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....

You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18

Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers


Dude your cracking me up,,,

Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....


your wrong and heres the proof


The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....

But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,


Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say

Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......


Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,

It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......



hay you already know i am stupid wise one as i said i see this to the way i understand it

yet you want to get me to see this to the way you understand it hay i am wiling to admit i am not wise how about you respond to what i am leaving you instead of having me respond to the two simple questions nightbaby

you are the one who tends to bring this serpant seed argument when ever a member sets a topic up stating how they understand what happend in the garden just look at what you did in simpls post he set up adams sin

i said set up a topic showing us how you see this so it can be lined up with gods word wise one


i know were the flood hapend i want to hear your version now how about you give me your version since you high jacked simples post
from damo
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:47 AM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 AM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM) *
your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo



I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....

You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18

Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers


Dude your cracking me up,,,

Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....


your wrong and heres the proof


The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....

But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,


Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say

Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......


Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,

It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......



hay you already know i am stupid wise one as i said i see this to the way i understand it

yet you want to get me to see this to the way you understand it hay i am wiling to admit i am not wise how about you respond to what i am leaving you instead of having me respond to the two simple questions nightbaby

you are the one who tends to bring this serpant seed argument when ever a member sets a topic up stating how they understand what happend in the garden just look at what you did in simpls post he set up adams sin

i said set up a topic showing us how you see this so it can be lined up with gods word wise one


i know were the flood hapend i want to hear your version now how about you give me your version since you high jacked simples post
from damo



O brother,,,you dont wanna discuss the word,,,you wanna fight......God said He put enmity between the serpents seed not me....

I dont know what your asking,,,,you want me to explain Genesis??? That will take a long time....

Well whatever all we know so far is you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,,and then I showed you they were not destroyed in the flood....
damo7
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 04:13 AM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:47 AM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 AM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM) *
your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo



I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....

You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18

Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers


Dude your cracking me up,,,

Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....


your wrong and heres the proof


The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....

But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,


Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say

Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......


Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,

It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......



hay you already know i am stupid wise one as i said i see this to the way i understand it

yet you want to get me to see this to the way you understand it hay i am wiling to admit i am not wise how about you respond to what i am leaving you instead of having me respond to the two simple questions nightbaby

you are the one who tends to bring this serpant seed argument when ever a member sets a topic up stating how they understand what happend in the garden just look at what you did in simpls post he set up adams sin

i said set up a topic showing us how you see this so it can be lined up with gods word wise one


i know were the flood hapend i want to hear your version now how about you give me your version since you high jacked simples post
from damo



O brother,,,you dont wanna discuss the word,,,you wanna fight......God said He put enmity between the serpents seed not me....

I dont know what your asking,,,,you want me to explain Genesis??? That will take a long time....

Well whatever all we know so far is you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,,and then I showed you they were not destroyed in the flood....



so is this the Way its going to be oh brother when you are asked to explaine how you understand this you cant do it but when a brother sets up a topic stating how he sees something for him self in comes the serpant seed argument

you are the one that started this nigthmare you know what i am asking you you made it very clear in simples post how wise you are and when he told you to back off you did not back of

know i come back to see what you left me i get this rubbish

i dont want to know why the kenities were destroyed i want to know was their sex in the garden simple question nightmare if you tend to correct me and try to get me to say i am wrong and you are right be ready to be questioned

i said go to Genesis 3 and word for word show me were satan had sexual intercourse with eve


can you do this nightmare ? i am giving you a chance to prove me wrong i am giving you a chance to make me look silly are you willing to do this nightmare

show me from Genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve

if you cant do this with me how on earth are you going to share this gospel to the ones that really need to hear it

you say you are a student pass your knowledge nightmare lets see if it lines up with gods word


i know what i said i dont want you to remind me what i said i left you sevral posts i would like you to respond this is not about me nightmare

i told you how i see for my self what happend in the garden yet you cant accept how i see this for my self

if you can show me in genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve i wil walk away from this topic and let you think what you want

i would rather look stupid then showing everyone hear how wise i am

if you cant handle the questions i am leaving you dont cal your self a student nightmare your no student by saying what you left in simples post



from damo
NIGHTMARE
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your second question you left me



cains people



Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed



the satanic treats of cain



in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper

this is how i see this for my self


these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God


cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain


pure serpant race destroyed in the flood


all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18



i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say




from damo



I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....

You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18

Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers


Dude your cracking me up,,,

Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....


your wrong and heres the proof


The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....

But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,


Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say

Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......


Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,

It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......



hay you already know i am stupid wise one as i said i see this to the way i understand it

yet you want to get me to see this to the way you understand it hay i am wiling to admit i am not wise how about you respond to what i am leaving you instead of having me respond to the two simple questions nightbaby

you are the one who tends to bring this serpant seed argument when ever a member sets a topic up stating how they understand what happend in the garden just look at what you did in simpls post he set up adams sin

i said set up a topic showing us how you see this so it can be lined up with gods word wise one


i know were the flood hapend i want to hear your version now how about you give me your version since you high jacked simples post
from damo



O brother,,,you dont wanna discuss the word,,,you wanna fight......God said He put enmity between the serpents seed not me....

I dont know what your asking,,,,you want me to explain Genesis??? That will take a long time....

Well whatever all we know so far is you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,,and then I showed you they were not destroyed in the flood....



so is this the Way its going to be oh brother when you are asked to explaine how you understand this you cant do it but when a brother sets up a topic stating how he sees something for him self in comes the serpant seed argument

you are the one that started this nigthmare you know what i am asking you you made it very clear in simples post how wise you are and when he told you to back off you did not back of

know i come back to see what you left me i get this rubbish

i dont want to know why the kenities were destroyed i want to know was their sex in the garden simple question nightmare if you tend to correct me and try to get me to say i am wrong and you are right be ready to be questioned

i said go to Genesis 3 and word for word show me were satan had sexual intercourse with eve


can you do this nightmare ? i am giving you a chance to prove me wrong i am giving you a chance to make me look silly are you willing to do this nightmare

show me from Genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve

if you cant do this with me how on earth are you going to share this gospel to the ones that really need to hear it

you say you are a student pass your knowledge nightmare lets see if it lines up with gods word


i know what i said i dont want you to remind me what i said i left you sevral posts i would like you to respond this is not about me nightmare

i told you how i see for my self what happend in the garden yet you cant accept how i see this for my self

if you can show me in genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve i wil walk away from this topic and let you think what you want

i would rather look stupid then showing everyone hear how wise i am

if you cant handle the questions i am leaving you dont cal your self a student nightmare your no student by saying what you left in simples post



from damo



GENESIS 3

3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

The tree of knowledge is satan (Ezekiel 31) So when God said do not eat of the fruit he meant do not believe his lies dont listen to him he produces evil......

Matthew 3:10
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.....Satna is a tree thats brings bad fruit.....

There is another word in this third verse we must understand, and it is the word "touch". God's command to Eve was; "neither shall ye touch it." In the Hebrew text the number for this word "touch" is # 5060 in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary. It reads; "Naga, neh-gah; a prime root, prop. to touch, i.e., lay the hand upon (for the purpose; euphemism, to lie with a woman), to reach, "LIE WITH A WOMAN

Remember, "touch" means "to lie with a woman". Tell it like it is.

Genesis 3:6 "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and the tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."

Satan is the most beautiful created being that God ever created. Ezekiel 24 tells us that Satan was the most beautiful tree to be desired. Eve took of that fruit of Satan, which is another way of saying that she lost her virginity through the sex act, and Adam also played the game with Eve and Satan.

Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."

So immediatly after the sin they tryed to hide it,,,by covering themselfs --- fig leaves have always represented what is hidden ,,,,,Eve covered herself because she knew something was inside her and she tried to hide it......

Why the heck blink.gif if you ate some fruit would you make a apron to hide eating it?????that makes no sense!!

Eve did what any teenager would do that got caught having sex,,,,put her clothes on (fig leaves) and hide.....

Once this sin was committed, their eyes were open to wickedness, but closed to truth. Think on this! Jesus told us to learn the "parable of the fig tree" in three of the gospels. This warning is given in Matthew 24:32, Mark 13:28, and Luke 21:29; yet most churches of today are completely ignoring God's warning, and following after fairy tales the Kenites are teaching them.

Has anyone ever been busted for sneaking snacks after there mom told them wait for dinner??????

Well I have and I did not try to get away with it by putting on pants wacko.gif

Moving on::::::


Have you ever heard of a tree that can make you wise???a tree that can open your eyes??? Of course not....So heres a little lesson,,,

the trees in the garden of Eden reads, # 6095. We read in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary; "Atsah, aw-tsaw, prime root, prop. to fasten (or make firm), i.e., to close (the eyes): shut." Under # 6095 Hebrew for trees in the garden) page 90 of Strong's Hebrew dictionary, the other reference to this is # 6096.

The # 6096; "Atseh, aw-tseh, from 6095; the spine, (as giving firmness to the body):-backbone." This # 6096 "atseh" is the tree referred to in Genesis 3:3. In referring to the fruit of a tree, then, you are talking about children.

What runs through the backbone of your body? It is your central nervous system. It is controlling the opening, or closing of your eye. In fact it controls every movement that a person makes, as the system continues the process of sending messages to and from your brain, which never stops. All bodies of all mankind are made in the image of God, whether in the soul body [angelic] like of the first earth age, or the physical body we posses in this earth age. Though the appearance [image] is the same, the substance of our physical bodies are different from the soul bodies.....

You know whats funny,,,,in sunday school they tell you Eve ate a apple,,,we havent even seen the word apple,,, Adam and Eve were in a fig orchard,,,I dont think fig orchards produce apples unsure.gif


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Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden."


Genesis 3:9 "And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, "Where art thou?"

Genesis 3:10 "And he said, "I heard Thy voice in the garden and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

Genesis 3:11 "And He said, "Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

If Adam ate a piece of fruit like a apple or a plum,,,what does that have to do with nakedness ???

Nakedness,,,,hidding,,,,covering private parts,,,dude there so busted.....

continuing:::::::::

Genesis 3:13 "And the Lord God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Eve stated just as Paul quoted her; "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." Eve had intercourse with Satan and lost her virginity. From that union came Cain, the father of all Kenites. Learn the truth.

The word "beguiled" in the Strong's Greek dictionary is # 1818; "exapatao, ex-ap-at ah-o, from 1537 and 538, to seduce wholly, to beguile, deceive." In # 1537 we read; "ex, shows point of origin".

Eve was seduced,,,,by the most awesome angel of light his beauty cant be matched and all the trees envied him (remember trees mean people we will come to this shortly)

Genesis 3:14 "And the Lord God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:"

This is God speaking to Satan. God is cursing Satan above all living creatures. This is a figure of speech, meaning you are the lowest thing of all creation. Now God continues to speak to the serpent [Satan].

Genesis 3:15 "And I [God] will put enmity between thee [Satan] and the woman [Eve], and between thy seed [the Kenites] and her Seed [Jesus Christ]; It [Christ] shall bruise thy [Satan's] head, and thou [Satan] shalt bruise His [Christ's] heel."

Eve's seed is our Lord Jesus Christ. While Satan's seed are the children, to the last generation, called the Kenites. Those offspring are born from the sexual union between Eve and Satan [the serpent, and the tree of good and evil]. God is telling us that He will put trouble between Eve's children [through Adam and Seth], and Satan's offspring through Cain, called the Kenites.

It is Jesus Christ that shall bruise the head of Satan, at Christ's return at the second advent; while it was Satan's children the Kenites, [not brother Judah] that bruised the heel of our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. This was done when the spikes were driven through Christ's heel, as He hung on the cross to pay the full price for our sins, once and for all.......

Most "men of God" acknowledge that Genesis 3:15 is talking about the death of Jesus Christ, when He was nailed to the cross for our sins. They recognize that "seed" is referring to the children of the woman "Eve", yet somehow they just want to spiritualize everything else that happened in the Garden of Eden between Eve and the two men [Satan and Adam]. The "seed" in the Hebrew is called "zirmah", and in the Greek it is "sperma"...... in English call it "sperm", and in Strongs Hebrew Dictionary # 2233; "Posterity, carnally, child, fruitful. The seed of Satan's "posterity" are the "Kenites", while Adam's posterity is in Christ, and of the pure bloodline through Seth........

Lets see what Christ has to say concerning this

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn

Ok I dont even have to reveal this Christ gave us a freebe,,,,heres the mystery revealed

37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Well if you dont understand here it is in short --- the tares are the kenites...As you can see Christ said the tares are the children not spiritual children,,, literal children of Satan the Devil.....

Back to Genesis

Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."

Eve was in a period of innocence here. In the Hebrew text it states; "ish eth Yehovah". This literal version translates, "with the help of Yehovah

Many people will say that,,,this means Adam is the father of Cain,,,,not so it says nothing about Adam being Cains fathr what it say is Adam knew is wife, and Cain was born......

This happen all the time so dont act like it doesnt,,,anyone that watches those nooner talk shows knows there always some dude that thinks his girlfriends baby is his,,, only to find out she was impregnated by another man,,,,,same case here....

Eve had twins!!!

The word "again" in the Hebrew text was "Yacaph", #3254 in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary; "to continue, conceive again, to continue to do the same thing."

So if you have a child and you continue in labor after giving birth you are having another child,,thus Abel was born...

So we have 2 children born one is the son of the devil and one is Abel who is suppose to be the first born in the line Christ would come threw....2 children same mother different fathers,,,,can this be???????Can a woman get pregnant ny 2 men (well satans not actually a mere man but hey)

Can it happen???

Paternity Testing: Twins With Different Fathers
Posted May 22, 2008

Paternity DNA testing for twins presents unique challenges that require attention to additional details. Before beginning the DNA testing process on twins who may have different fathers, there are several factors to consider.

There are two possible scenarios when the paternity of a set of twins is in question, depending on whether the twins are Identical or Fraternal. Because Identical Twins have exactly the same DNA, they would therefore have the same father. (If it is unknown whether the twins are fraternal or identical, a Twin Zygosity Test can determine this.)

If paternity of the set of twins is in question and the twins are thought to be identical:

A DNA paternity test can be performed by comparing the twins’ DNA to the alleged father(s). It is recommended that the mother participate in the testing, but it is not required.

DDC strongly recommends that both twins participate in the paternity test for several reasons. First, taking a DNA sample from each twin will confirm that the twins are indeed fraternal or identical, because the DNA profiles generated for the twins during the testing process can be compared. Identical twins have the same DNA because a single sperm cell has fertilized one egg, which then splits into two. On the other hand, fraternal twins may have different DNA profiles because they come from two different eggs that have been fertilized by different sperm cells.

Additionally, if the paternity test results will be used for child support or other legal benefits, government agencies often require that both twins’ names appear on the report, and this is only possible if both twins are tested.

If paternity of the set of twins is in question and the twins are thought to be fraternal:

In the case of fraternal twins, a woman has ovulated more than once in a given month, thus releasing more than one egg. If this occurs and each egg is fertilized by sperm cells from the same man, fraternal twins are formed that have the same father.

While extremely rare, it is possible that each egg is fertilized by sperm cells from two different men, thus forming twins with two different fathers, called bi-paternal twins. According to recent studies published by the National Institutes of Health, it is estimated that approximately 1 in 12 fraternal twin sets are bi-paternal, meaning that each twin has a different father (Note that fraternal twinning is a relatively rare event in itself—fraternal twins make up about 2% of the world's population).

Each paternity test involving fraternal twins is unique, but the following steps present possible DNA testing scenarios:

Initially, it is necessary to test only the mother, alleged father(s) and both twins. This test can determine if the alleged father(s) is (are) biologically related to one twin, both twins, or neither twin. DDC recommends having all the alleged fathers participate in the initial DNA test, if possible (they can submit samples at the different appointments/times).


If the initial DNA test proves that an alleged father is related to only one of the twins, this means that the twins are bi-paternal. In the case of twins with different fathers, it is possible to perform another paternity test with a second alleged father.


If the initial test proves that the alleged father (s) is related to neither twin, the tested parties may choose to have another alleged father tested.

*Note: After the mother and each twin has provided a sample of their DNA through DDC’s chain of custody procedure, there is no need for them to have their cheek swabs taken repeatedly if additional testing is needed. In most cases where additional testing is required, there is enough DNA left from the original sample to perform the additional analysis, if the second test is performed within 90 days of the first test. Please call one of our paternity testing specialists now at 1-800-613-5768 to discuss your case further and for our complete Twin Paternity Testing Fee Schedule. You may also contact us using this online form.

another source

Twins by Different Fathers
By Sonya Galloway
First, I want to say it's possible to get pregnant by two men at once. It happened to me.
I was 18 years old at the time, and married. I left my husband when he was unfaithful. This all took place in October of 1989. I started dating my best friend, and it got serious fast. I still had feelings for my husband, though. In one week I did the unthinkable – you can guess what that was.

So I left my boyfriend and divorced my husband – well, I started the divorce. Then I found out I was pregnant. When the doctor told me my due date I was sure my boyfriend was the father. When I told my ex-husband that, he still would not go through with the divorce and had a lawyer stop it.

In California, if you get pregnant and you're married, the child by law is your husband's. Now get this: He stopped the divorce but refused to help with my medical bills, but that's another story.

Meanwhile, I started back talking with my boyfriend, but just as a friend. I told him what was going on. I was about 2 1/2 months pregnant by then. He stayed by side throughout my pregnancy.

Around my second trimester I had gained about 30 pounds. The test for birth disorders came back too high. My doctor called me in right away for an ultrasound. The moment the pad touched my belly, I knew – TWINS! That explained my test results.

I was shocked. Here I was planning a future for three. I was still in college and would earn my AA in June. The babies were due in July. Would I make it?

I had read about diets and chose a 3000-calorie diet. You would think you could eat anything – not. Whole grain cereal, lean meat, eight servings of vegetables and whole milk – I HATE WHOLE MILK. But I wanted healthy babies.

Anyway, my twins arrived 10 days early. Sharie Lyne was 8 pounds, 13 ounces, and Shawn Alexander was 7 pounds, 10 ounces. That was a record! The diet worked.

When I saw my babies I noted a BIG difference between them – more so after one month. Sharie looked black, while Shawn looked more white. I knew what I thought but didn't think it possible. When the court-ordered DNA test was given, it was confirmed that my babies had different fathers.

Sharie is African-American and Shawn is both African-American and Irish and has red hair like his dad.

My kids are now 12 years old and oh, so lovely. And they do look TWINNY.

HEY IM NOT MAKING THIS STUFF UP,,,,,

44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Just thought I would throw those 2 versus in,,,,,

So let me some this up

Satan tried to take over,,,got his but kicked,,,but he was able to get 1/3 of Gods children to follow,,God gets mad and decides to make us all be born from above (not again) some of the souls chose not to(Jude) And God was going to have his son be born through the flesh just like us to save us.......

Satan knew this so as soon as Eve was made he attacked trying to mess up the bloodline,,,It almost worked but Eve had twins ,,,,so Christ could come through Abel,,,,So Cain killed Abel then Seth was born and more adamics and more adamics,,,so satan sent his angels to do the same thing he did in the garden.....So the angels started having sex with all the adamic women until it was only Noahs family left....! family that Christ could come though so God flooded them,,,,,then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born......

I would have added alot more but I know how much you dislike Hebrew and Greek

So you asked to start a topic I did you said explain how Satan had sex with Eve I did anyhing else?????

I got some questions






























Simple
So did Cain have horns and a tail?
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 12:54 PM) *
So did Cain have horns and a tail?


No why would he????His mother didnt have it neither did his father,,,,Satan is beautiful Ezekiel 28 discribes his majestic splender,,,,Satan is not some ugly 2 horned half goat man with a pitch fork,,,if thats how he looke Eve would not have had sex with him,,,,but she was in aw by his beauty.....

But I do believe something was different about Cain,,,,,Eve said she had gotten a man from the Lord,,,that can mean a couple of things,,,but I know able didnt stand a chance in the field Im sure he was very strong
maybe a little deformed also.......
Simple
On a more serious note, your doctrines are completely barking.


Jhn 8:37 ¶ I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Questions for you NM.

1) Did Jesus say this?
2) Was he addressing the scribes and pharisees?
3) Is he addressing the same people he also tells 'ye are of your father the Devil'?


Once you've correctly answered all these questions, what will you do NM?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide NM.
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 18 2008, 10:49 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 18 2008, 08:30 PM) *
Its terrible. I'd prefer something like 'Eye of the Tiger'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYKfVH2TUBU...feature=related



Probley more like Drago v.s. Apollo Creed,,,,,,Im Drago.....



Yep . . . and I am :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lukepromo2321.jpeg
whirlwind
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:11 PM) *
On a more serious note, your doctrines are completely barking.


Jhn 8:37 ¶ I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Questions for you NM.

1) Did Jesus say this?
2) Was he addressing the scribes and pharisees?
3) Is he addressing the same people he also tells 'ye are of your father the Devil'?


Once you've correctly answered all these questions, what will you do NM?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide NM.



Two things. The first is that Cain didn't have horns but he might have been very, very tall. The "mark" of the children of the fallen angels was that they were giants. Satan is a fallen angel. Cain is his offspring.

The second is yes, Jesus did say the above scripture. Yes he was addressing the scribes and pharisees and yes they were of their father the devil. If the implication is they couldn't be of Satan because their father was Abraham you must remember that Abraham was father of many nations.....many people. Kenites mix well.
Mysteryman
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:41 PM) *
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN



Mysteryman:

If I am Luke Sky Walker . . . who is this ?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Lord_of_the_Sith

"The Sith must be ruled by a single leader, the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak another must rise to seize the mantle."
―Darth Revan's holocron[src]

The title of Dark Lord of the Sith originally referred to the ruler of the Sith Empire, and later was taken by the recognized leader of the Order of the Sith Lords.
Simple
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.
researcher
Col 3:8 but now do ye also put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, railing, shameful speaking out of your mouth:
Col 3:9 lie not one to another; seeing that ye have put off the old man with his doings,

This is a doctrinal disputation not a fight. The ad hominems could be toned down. wink.gif smile.gif
Mysteryman
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:11 PM) *
On a more serious note, your doctrines are completely barking.


Jhn 8:37 ¶ I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Questions for you NM.

1) Did Jesus say this?
2) Was he addressing the scribes and pharisees?
3) Is he addressing the same people he also tells 'ye are of your father the Devil'?


Once you've correctly answered all these questions, what will you do NM?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide NM.


I DONT THINK YOU READ MY POST CLEARLY --- Do you remember me saying this
"then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born......"

1 Yes Christ said this

2 yes he was

3 many that were there were kenites

Let me guess your next question is how can they be children of the Devil and Abrahams seed right???

I told you "then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born

Let me explain after the flood,,,it was known that Christ would come through Abraham so the fallen angels came back and started hitting the bloodline again but they were not as successful this time around....

I could go into it deeper but for the sake of time consider this:::

But we read of the Nephilim again in Num. 13:33 : "there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim". How, it may be asked, could this be, if they were all destroyed in the Flood? The answer is contained in Gen. 6:4, where we read : "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (i.e. in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became [the] mighty men (Heb. gibbor, the heroes) which were of old, men of renown" (lit. men of the name, i.e. who got a name and were renowned for their ungodliness).

So that "after that", i.e. after the Flood, there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, evidently smaller in number and more limited in area, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before.

As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Gen. 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated : "The Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land." And in Gen. 14:5 they were already known as "Raphain" and Emim", and had established themselves at Asteroth Karnaim and Shaven Kiriathaim.

In ch. 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples : "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Gen. 15:19-21; cp. Ex. 3:8, 17; 23:23. Deut. 7; 20:17. Josh. 12

O and you thought you were so close to trapping me,,,,better luck next time....

By the way you ever answer my question???



NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN


It does not take eyes to see,,,,to believe what you believe you have the mind of a five year old only able to see what is right in front of you.......Dont you know that me and WW already understand many people wont except this because it takes eyes to see and ears to hear my dim witted friend....

You dont get it Yes Adam knew his wife and she had a kid,,,that does not mean it was his,,,why do you think we have dna paternity test??????
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha


Adam was white -- Eve was taking from him so shes white alot of white woman have blonde hair....your point ?
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha




http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t9893-30.htm

Well Aidan, just because you're eyes were blue, or your sister has fair hair does not necessarily designate Nordic (Scandinavian) ancestry. Scandinavians are not the only people who have blond hair, blue eyes and tall stature, nor are the the 'originators' of such traits--they don't 'own' them either : ). It only happens to be that the percentage of those traits are high in them and the neighboring Finns, that's all. Many Scandinaians also have dark hair and darker eyes and are short.
Blond hair and blue eyes are also endemic traits of Celtic peoples, so you very well could have simply inherited them from Celtic ancestors : )
Mysteryman
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:11 PM) *
On a more serious note, your doctrines are completely barking.


Jhn 8:37 ¶ I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Questions for you NM.

1) Did Jesus say this?
2) Was he addressing the scribes and pharisees?
3) Is he addressing the same people he also tells 'ye are of your father the Devil'?


Once you've correctly answered all these questions, what will you do NM?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide NM.


I DONT THINK YOU READ MY POST CLEARLY --- Do you remember me saying this
"then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born......"

1 Yes Christ said this

2 yes he was

3 many that were there were kenites

Let me guess your next question is how can they be children of the Devil and Abrahams seed right???

I told you "then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born

Let me explain after the flood,,,it was known that Christ would come through Abraham so the fallen angels came back and started hitting the bloodline again but they were not as successful this time around....

I could go into it deeper but for the sake of time consider this:::

But we read of the Nephilim again in Num. 13:33 : "there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim". How, it may be asked, could this be, if they were all destroyed in the Flood? The answer is contained in Gen. 6:4, where we read : "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (i.e. in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became [the] mighty men (Heb. gibbor, the heroes) which were of old, men of renown" (lit. men of the name, i.e. who got a name and were renowned for their ungodliness).

So that "after that", i.e. after the Flood, there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, evidently smaller in number and more limited in area, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before.

As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Gen. 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated : "The Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land." And in Gen. 14:5 they were already known as "Raphain" and Emim", and had established themselves at Asteroth Karnaim and Shaven Kiriathaim.

In ch. 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples : "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Gen. 15:19-21; cp. Ex. 3:8, 17; 23:23. Deut. 7; 20:17. Josh. 12

O and you thought you were so close to trapping me,,,,better luck next time....

By the way you ever answer my question???

You were trapped way back in Genesis. Your theory does not hold water ! The Word of God does not deal with literal geneologies of Satan !

God told serpent that he would put enmity between the serpent and the woman -- enmity = ill will - hatred.

Numbers 13:33 is very clear who the sons of the giants was -- Anak <-- he was the father

The sons of God refers to the offspring of Seth, and the daughters of men, refers to the offspring of Cain. Very simple !

After the flood, those of the three sons of Noah, had wives. Want to guess "how" giants came into being after the flood ?

IN Christ - Christ IN
Mysteryman
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Aug 19 2008, 02:09 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha




http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t9893-30.htm

Well Aidan, just because you're eyes were blue, or your sister has fair hair does not necessarily designate Nordic (Scandinavian) ancestry. Scandinavians are not the only people who have blond hair, blue eyes and tall stature, nor are the the 'originators' of such traits--they don't 'own' them either : ). It only happens to be that the percentage of those traits are high in them and the neighboring Finns, that's all. Many Scandinaians also have dark hair and darker eyes and are short.
Blond hair and blue eyes are also endemic traits of Celtic peoples, so you very well could have simply inherited them from Celtic ancestors : )

Eve must have been a dumb blonde then ! LOL - Sorry, couldn't help myself

IN Christ
Mysteryman
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN


It does not take eyes to see,,,,to believe what you believe you have the mind of a five year old only able to see what is right in front of you.......Dont you know that me and WW already understand many people wont except this because it takes eyes to see and ears to hear my dim witted friend....

You dont get it Yes Adam knew his wife and she had a kid,,,that does not mean it was his,,,why do you think we have dna paternity test??????

(Laughing)

Genesis 4:1 - Adam knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain <-- This is clear, simple, and logical, and easy to understand. Only you and WW want to make it complicated and illogical !

IN Christ
Mysteryman
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:08 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha


Adam was white -- Eve was taking from him so shes white alot of white woman have blonde hair....your point ?

Adam and Eve were not white ! (Laughing)

They were "red"

Look up the word "red" in a concordance, it is the word - "adam"

IN Christ
researcher
QUOTE
The sons of God refers to the offspring of Seth



So, why aren't 20 foot deformed giants being born today? And apparently cannibals. There used to be whole nations of them

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had spied out unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of great stature.
Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

2Sa 21:20 And there was again war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

Deu 9:2 a people great and tall, the sons of the Anakim, whom thou knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say, Who can stand before the sons of Anak?

Deu 3:11 (For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the Rephaim; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbah of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.)

That's a big bed, over 13 feet long, lol wink.gif
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 03:22 PM) *
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Aug 19 2008, 02:09 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha




http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t9893-30.htm

Well Aidan, just because you're eyes were blue, or your sister has fair hair does not necessarily designate Nordic (Scandinavian) ancestry. Scandinavians are not the only people who have blond hair, blue eyes and tall stature, nor are the the 'originators' of such traits--they don't 'own' them either : ). It only happens to be that the percentage of those traits are high in them and the neighboring Finns, that's all. Many Scandinaians also have dark hair and darker eyes and are short.
Blond hair and blue eyes are also endemic traits of Celtic peoples, so you very well could have simply inherited them from Celtic ancestors : )

Eve must have been a dumb blonde then ! LOL - Sorry, couldn't help myself

IN Christ




You make me laugh. 1dsz5h3.gif

Just remember, ' Some blondes go `root`, deep' . . . those are the one's that Satan avoid's
like avoiding a swarm of yellow jacket's, swarming a worm fiddling on the wooden log.

---- I love the dumb, blonde concept ---- It makes me laugh, to see a bald-headed Satan
the Serpent, sliding across the gravel-pit of hell ----

Then I will say, " Yes, like Eve, I too have my blonde moment's . . . however, I have
redemption, you Satan have that shovel forcing the coal's of hell to stoke-the-fires
for eternity "

. . . WOW !



I think I had a blonde moment ? 1dsz5f1.gif


NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:32 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:08 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Simple @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) *
I've not seen the film, but I suppose Obiwankonobi was a kenite too.

I'll bet the serpent like blondes also, thats why he wanted to seduce Eve. But we will not know without DNA testing will we ?

Ha


Adam was white -- Eve was taking from him so shes white alot of white woman have blonde hair....your point ?

Adam and Eve were not white ! (Laughing)

They were "red"

Look up the word "red" in a concordance, it is the word - "adam"

IN Christ


Ok I will

119 'adam aw-dam' to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy:--be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).

rubicund: inclined to a healthy reddish color often associated with outdoor life; "a ruddy complexion"; "Santa's rubicund cheeks"; "a fresh and ...

I dont know about you but I think santa is pretty much that color......

You have not study the word ruudy has I have ,,,, it means a white person that has the ability to show blood in the face....Adam does not mean red,,,it means ruddy,,,,Dude you have been wrong on just about everything you have said starting from trying to tell woman they cant preach......

NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN


It does not take eyes to see,,,,to believe what you believe you have the mind of a five year old only able to see what is right in front of you.......Dont you know that me and WW already understand many people wont except this because it takes eyes to see and ears to hear my dim witted friend....

You dont get it Yes Adam knew his wife and she had a kid,,,that does not mean it was his,,,why do you think we have dna paternity test??????

(Laughing)

Genesis 4:1 - Adam knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain <-- This is clear, simple, and logical, and easy to understand. Only you and WW want to make it complicated and illogical !

IN Christ



No we have eyes to see you dont maybe one day you will wkae up or God will wake you up...

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

No Cain so Cains is not the blood of Adam seems easy to me....

Mysteryman
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 02:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Aug 19 2008, 01:41 PM) *
What a joke this is all become. Scripture says clearly that Adam knew his wife, and then she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Now we read nothing but ignorance from NM and WW on their theories on how , somehow, Eve who hated the serpent want to make love to him and give birth to his children. What a joke !!

Also what a waste of time with those who want to remain ignorant.

IN Christ - Christ IN


It does not take eyes to see,,,,to believe what you believe you have the mind of a five year old only able to see what is right in front of you.......Dont you know that me and WW already understand many people wont except this because it takes eyes to see and ears to hear my dim witted friend....

You dont get it Yes Adam knew his wife and she had a kid,,,that does not mean it was his,,,why do you think we have dna paternity test??????

(Laughing)

Genesis 4:1 - Adam knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain <-- This is clear, simple, and logical, and easy to understand. Only you and WW want to make it complicated and illogical !

IN Christ



No we have eyes to see you dont maybe one day you will wkae up or God will wake you up...

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

No Cain so Cains is not the blood of Adam seems easy to me....

Ignorance and blindness does that you know !

Adam was 130 years old when he begat Seth, he was younger when he begat Cain ! < Genesis 4:1

IN Christ