QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 03:54 AM)

QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Aug 19 2008, 04:13 AM)

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QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 19 2008, 01:33 AM)

your second question you left me
cains people
Genesis 4 v 16 - 24 is the record of cains own genealogy his was a great people full of intellectuall knowledge they built citys they made weapons and they were great inventors in their days they were renowned people Giants both mentally and physically the record also contains the murderous act of lamech the great grandson of cain he was the first person to go against gods will of one man one wife Genesis 2 v 23 -24 he married two wifes polgamy was permitted of god only after the flood when the seeds of adam through seth and cain were already mixed
the satanic treats of cain
in the murder of abel three develish traits wer manifested in cain the son of the serpant Genesis 4 v 8 - 9 the murderous lying nature does not come from god it comes from satan john 10 -10 john 11 v 25 Num 23 - 19 jesus said that satan was a murderer from the beginning and that he is a liar and the father of it john 8 - 44 satans rebellion was manifested in cain when cain said am i my brothers keeper
this is how i see this for my self
these traits are proof that cain was not a son of adam who was a son of God
cain did not posses the same revelation his brother possess true revelation of God can only be received by sons and daughters of God cain was not Gods son but god spared cain and put a mark on cain
pure serpant race destroyed in the flood
all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18
i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say
from damo
I asked 2 simple questions,,,they are both questions that can be answered with a yes or a no,,,We dont need all the hoopblah just answer the questions yes or no....
You said this :::::all pure serpant people cainites were destroyed in the flood along with the hybrid race only noah family was spared by the grace of god upon noah Genesis 6 v 8 - 18
Serpent people??? Now thats funny,,,I never heard them called that,,,but hey it actually fits since Christ called them serpents and vipers
Dude your cracking me up,,,
Ok you say all cainites/kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,that means there all gone right,,,no more kenites.....
your wrong and heres the proof
The flood happen in Genesis 6/7 so if what you said was true then we should not read anymore about the kenites.....
But why are they still around in 1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
So you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,I showed you there still around in chronicles,,,,,
Also you have said this:::::i dont want to hear what you have to say or what the concordance has to say or what the hebrew word or greek word has to say i just want to hear what gods word has to say
Sorry the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek,,,you dont speak either neither do I,,,,the strongs concordance is very helpful,,,unless you think you are smart enough to translate English back into Greek and Hebrew......
Dude this is my opening questions to you and I have already proved you wrong,,,,if this continues I will prove you wrong over and over and over,,,,
It doesnt take eyes to see to see that you were wrong when you said the kenites were destroyed the flood,,,,,,lets see if your christian enough to admit your err......
hay you already know i am stupid wise one as i said i see this to the way i understand it
yet you want to get me to see this to the way you understand it hay i am wiling to admit i am not wise how about you respond to what i am leaving you instead of having me respond to the two simple questions nightbaby
you are the one who tends to bring this serpant seed argument when ever a member sets a topic up stating how they understand what happend in the garden just look at what you did in simpls post he set up adams sin
i said set up a topic showing us how you see this so it can be lined up with gods word wise one
i know were the flood hapend i want to hear your version now how about you give me your version since you high jacked simples post
from damo
O brother,,,you dont wanna discuss the word,,,you wanna fight......God said He put enmity between the serpents seed not me....
I dont know what your asking,,,,you want me to explain Genesis??? That will take a long time....
Well whatever all we know so far is you said the kenites were destroyed in the flood,,,,,and then I showed you they were not destroyed in the flood....
so is this the Way its going to be oh brother when you are asked to explaine how you understand this you cant do it but when a brother sets up a topic stating how he sees something for him self in comes the serpant seed argument
you are the one that started this nigthmare you know what i am asking you you made it very clear in simples post how wise you are and when he told you to back off you did not back of
know i come back to see what you left me i get this rubbish
i dont want to know why the kenities were destroyed i want to know was their sex in the garden simple question nightmare if you tend to correct me and try to get me to say i am wrong and you are right be ready to be questioned
i said go to Genesis 3 and word for word show me were satan had sexual intercourse with eve
can you do this nightmare ? i am giving you a chance to prove me wrong i am giving you a chance to make me look silly are you willing to do this nightmare
show me from Genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve
if you cant do this with me how on earth are you going to share this gospel to the ones that really need to hear it
you say you are a student pass your knowledge nightmare lets see if it lines up with gods word
i know what i said i dont want you to remind me what i said i left you sevral posts i would like you to respond this is not about me nightmare
i told you how i see for my self what happend in the garden yet you cant accept how i see this for my self
if you can show me in genesis 3 were satan had sexual intercourse with eve i wil walk away from this topic and let you think what you want
i would rather look stupid then showing everyone hear how wise i am
if you cant handle the questions i am leaving you dont cal your self a student nightmare your no student by saying what you left in simples post
from damo
GENESIS 3
3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
The tree of knowledge is satan (Ezekiel 31) So when God said do not eat of the fruit he meant do not believe his lies dont listen to him he produces evil......
Matthew 3:10
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.....Satna is a tree thats brings bad fruit.....
There is another word in this third verse we must understand, and it is the word "touch". God's command to Eve was; "neither shall ye touch it." In the Hebrew text the number for this word "touch" is # 5060 in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary. It reads; "Naga, neh-gah; a prime root, prop. to touch, i.e., lay the hand upon (for the purpose; euphemism, to lie with a woman), to reach, "LIE WITH A WOMAN
Remember, "touch" means "to lie with a woman". Tell it like it is.
Genesis 3:6 "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and the tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
Satan is the most beautiful created being that God ever created. Ezekiel 24 tells us that Satan was the most beautiful tree to be desired. Eve took of that fruit of Satan, which is another way of saying that she lost her virginity through the sex act, and Adam also played the game with Eve and Satan.
Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."
So immediatly after the sin they tryed to hide it,,,by covering themselfs --- fig leaves have always represented what is hidden ,,,,,Eve covered herself because she knew something was inside her and she tried to hide it......
Why the heck

if you ate some fruit would you make a apron to hide eating it?????that makes no sense!!
Eve did what any teenager would do that got caught having sex,,,,put her clothes on (fig leaves) and hide.....
Once this sin was committed, their eyes were open to wickedness, but closed to truth. Think on this! Jesus told us to learn the "parable of the fig tree" in three of the gospels. This warning is given in Matthew 24:32, Mark 13:28, and Luke 21:29; yet most churches of today are completely ignoring God's warning, and following after fairy tales the Kenites are teaching them.
Has anyone ever been busted for sneaking snacks after there mom told them wait for dinner??????
Well I have and I did not try to get away with it by putting on pants
Moving on::::::
Have you ever heard of a tree that can make you wise???a tree that can open your eyes??? Of course not....So heres a little lesson,,,
the trees in the garden of Eden reads, # 6095. We read in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary; "Atsah, aw-tsaw, prime root, prop. to fasten (or make firm), i.e., to close (the eyes): shut." Under # 6095 Hebrew for trees in the garden) page 90 of Strong's Hebrew dictionary, the other reference to this is # 6096.
The # 6096; "Atseh, aw-tseh, from 6095; the spine, (as giving firmness to the body):-backbone." This # 6096 "atseh" is the tree referred to in Genesis 3:3. In referring to the fruit of a tree, then, you are talking about children.
What runs through the backbone of your body? It is your central nervous system. It is controlling the opening, or closing of your eye. In fact it controls every movement that a person makes, as the system continues the process of sending messages to and from your brain, which never stops. All bodies of all mankind are made in the image of God, whether in the soul body [angelic] like of the first earth age, or the physical body we posses in this earth age. Though the appearance [image] is the same, the substance of our physical bodies are different from the soul bodies.....
You know whats funny,,,,in sunday school they tell you Eve ate a apple,,,we havent even seen the word apple,,, Adam and Eve were in a fig orchard,,,I dont think fig orchards produce apples

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Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden."
Genesis 3:9 "And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, "Where art thou?"
Genesis 3:10 "And he said, "I heard Thy voice in the garden and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."
Genesis 3:11 "And He said, "Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"
If Adam ate a piece of fruit like a apple or a plum,,,what does that have to do with nakedness ???
Nakedness,,,,hidding,,,,covering private parts,,,dude there so busted.....
continuing:::::::::
Genesis 3:13 "And the Lord God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."
Eve stated just as Paul quoted her; "The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." Eve had intercourse with Satan and lost her virginity. From that union came Cain, the father of all Kenites. Learn the truth.
The word "beguiled" in the Strong's Greek dictionary is # 1818; "exapatao, ex-ap-at ah-o, from 1537 and 538, to seduce wholly, to beguile, deceive." In # 1537 we read; "ex, shows point of origin".
Eve was seduced,,,,by the most awesome angel of light his beauty cant be matched and all the trees envied him (remember trees mean people we will come to this shortly)
Genesis 3:14 "And the Lord God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:"
This is God speaking to Satan. God is cursing Satan above all living creatures. This is a figure of speech, meaning you are the lowest thing of all creation. Now God continues to speak to the serpent [Satan].
Genesis 3:15 "And I [God] will put enmity between thee [Satan] and the woman [Eve], and between thy seed [the Kenites] and her Seed [Jesus Christ]; It [Christ] shall bruise thy [Satan's] head, and thou [Satan] shalt bruise His [Christ's] heel."
Eve's seed is our Lord Jesus Christ. While Satan's seed are the children, to the last generation, called the Kenites. Those offspring are born from the sexual union between Eve and Satan [the serpent, and the tree of good and evil]. God is telling us that He will put trouble between Eve's children [through Adam and Seth], and Satan's offspring through Cain, called the Kenites.
It is Jesus Christ that shall bruise the head of Satan, at Christ's return at the second advent; while it was Satan's children the Kenites, [not brother Judah] that bruised the heel of our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. This was done when the spikes were driven through Christ's heel, as He hung on the cross to pay the full price for our sins, once and for all.......
Most "men of God" acknowledge that Genesis 3:15 is talking about the death of Jesus Christ, when He was nailed to the cross for our sins. They recognize that "seed" is referring to the children of the woman "Eve", yet somehow they just want to spiritualize everything else that happened in the Garden of Eden between Eve and the two men [Satan and Adam]. The "seed" in the Hebrew is called "zirmah", and in the Greek it is "sperma"...... in English call it "sperm", and in Strongs Hebrew Dictionary # 2233; "Posterity, carnally, child, fruitful. The seed of Satan's "posterity" are the "Kenites", while Adam's posterity is in Christ, and of the pure bloodline through Seth........
Lets see what Christ has to say concerning this
24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn
Ok I dont even have to reveal this Christ gave us a freebe,,,,heres the mystery revealed
37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Well if you dont understand here it is in short --- the tares are the kenites...As you can see Christ said the tares are the children not spiritual children,,, literal children of Satan the Devil.....
Back to Genesis
Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."
Eve was in a period of innocence here. In the Hebrew text it states; "ish eth Yehovah". This literal version translates, "with the help of Yehovah
Many people will say that,,,this means Adam is the father of Cain,,,,not so it says nothing about Adam being Cains fathr what it say is Adam knew is wife, and Cain was born......
This happen all the time so dont act like it doesnt,,,anyone that watches those nooner talk shows knows there always some dude that thinks his girlfriends baby is his,,, only to find out she was impregnated by another man,,,,,same case here....
Eve had twins!!!
The word "again" in the Hebrew text was "Yacaph", #3254 in the Strong's Hebrew dictionary; "to continue, conceive again, to continue to do the same thing."
So if you have a child and you continue in labor after giving birth you are having another child,,thus Abel was born...
So we have 2 children born one is the son of the devil and one is Abel who is suppose to be the first born in the line Christ would come threw....2 children same mother different fathers,,,,can this be???????Can a woman get pregnant ny 2 men (well satans not actually a mere man but hey)
Can it happen???
Paternity Testing: Twins With Different Fathers
Posted May 22, 2008
Paternity DNA testing for twins presents unique challenges that require attention to additional details. Before beginning the DNA testing process on twins who may have different fathers, there are several factors to consider.
There are two possible scenarios when the paternity of a set of twins is in question, depending on whether the twins are Identical or Fraternal. Because Identical Twins have exactly the same DNA, they would therefore have the same father. (If it is unknown whether the twins are fraternal or identical, a Twin Zygosity Test can determine this.)
If paternity of the set of twins is in question and the twins are thought to be identical:
A DNA paternity test can be performed by comparing the twins’ DNA to the alleged father(s). It is recommended that the mother participate in the testing, but it is not required.
DDC strongly recommends that both twins participate in the paternity test for several reasons. First, taking a DNA sample from each twin will confirm that the twins are indeed fraternal or identical, because the DNA profiles generated for the twins during the testing process can be compared. Identical twins have the same DNA because a single sperm cell has fertilized one egg, which then splits into two. On the other hand, fraternal twins may have different DNA profiles because they come from two different eggs that have been fertilized by different sperm cells.
Additionally, if the paternity test results will be used for child support or other legal benefits, government agencies often require that both twins’ names appear on the report, and this is only possible if both twins are tested.
If paternity of the set of twins is in question and the twins are thought to be fraternal:
In the case of fraternal twins, a woman has ovulated more than once in a given month, thus releasing more than one egg. If this occurs and each egg is fertilized by sperm cells from the same man, fraternal twins are formed that have the same father.
While extremely rare, it is possible that each egg is fertilized by sperm cells from two different men, thus forming twins with two different fathers, called bi-paternal twins. According to recent studies published by the National Institutes of Health, it is estimated that approximately 1 in 12 fraternal twin sets are bi-paternal, meaning that each twin has a different father (Note that fraternal twinning is a relatively rare event in itself—fraternal twins make up about 2% of the world's population).
Each paternity test involving fraternal twins is unique, but the following steps present possible DNA testing scenarios:
Initially, it is necessary to test only the mother, alleged father(s) and both twins. This test can determine if the alleged father(s) is (are) biologically related to one twin, both twins, or neither twin. DDC recommends having all the alleged fathers participate in the initial DNA test, if possible (they can submit samples at the different appointments/times).
If the initial DNA test proves that an alleged father is related to only one of the twins, this means that the twins are bi-paternal. In the case of twins with different fathers, it is possible to perform another paternity test with a second alleged father.
If the initial test proves that the alleged father (s) is related to neither twin, the tested parties may choose to have another alleged father tested.
*Note: After the mother and each twin has provided a sample of their DNA through DDC’s chain of custody procedure, there is no need for them to have their cheek swabs taken repeatedly if additional testing is needed. In most cases where additional testing is required, there is enough DNA left from the original sample to perform the additional analysis, if the second test is performed within 90 days of the first test. Please call one of our paternity testing specialists now at 1-800-613-5768 to discuss your case further and for our complete Twin Paternity Testing Fee Schedule. You may also contact us using this online form.
another source
Twins by Different Fathers
By Sonya Galloway
First, I want to say it's possible to get pregnant by two men at once. It happened to me.
I was 18 years old at the time, and married. I left my husband when he was unfaithful. This all took place in October of 1989. I started dating my best friend, and it got serious fast. I still had feelings for my husband, though. In one week I did the unthinkable – you can guess what that was.
So I left my boyfriend and divorced my husband – well, I started the divorce. Then I found out I was pregnant. When the doctor told me my due date I was sure my boyfriend was the father. When I told my ex-husband that, he still would not go through with the divorce and had a lawyer stop it.
In California, if you get pregnant and you're married, the child by law is your husband's. Now get this: He stopped the divorce but refused to help with my medical bills, but that's another story.
Meanwhile, I started back talking with my boyfriend, but just as a friend. I told him what was going on. I was about 2 1/2 months pregnant by then. He stayed by side throughout my pregnancy.
Around my second trimester I had gained about 30 pounds. The test for birth disorders came back too high. My doctor called me in right away for an ultrasound. The moment the pad touched my belly, I knew – TWINS! That explained my test results.
I was shocked. Here I was planning a future for three. I was still in college and would earn my AA in June. The babies were due in July. Would I make it?
I had read about diets and chose a 3000-calorie diet. You would think you could eat anything – not. Whole grain cereal, lean meat, eight servings of vegetables and whole milk – I HATE WHOLE MILK. But I wanted healthy babies.
Anyway, my twins arrived 10 days early. Sharie Lyne was 8 pounds, 13 ounces, and Shawn Alexander was 7 pounds, 10 ounces. That was a record! The diet worked.
When I saw my babies I noted a BIG difference between them – more so after one month. Sharie looked black, while Shawn looked more white. I knew what I thought but didn't think it possible. When the court-ordered DNA test was given, it was confirmed that my babies had different fathers.
Sharie is African-American and Shawn is both African-American and Irish and has red hair like his dad.
My kids are now 12 years old and oh, so lovely. And they do look TWINNY.
HEY IM NOT MAKING THIS STUFF UP,,,,,
44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Just thought I would throw those 2 versus in,,,,,
So let me some this up
Satan tried to take over,,,got his but kicked,,,but he was able to get 1/3 of Gods children to follow,,God gets mad and decides to make us all be born from above (not again) some of the souls chose not to(Jude) And God was going to have his son be born through the flesh just like us to save us.......
Satan knew this so as soon as Eve was made he attacked trying to mess up the bloodline,,,It almost worked but Eve had twins ,,,,so Christ could come through Abel,,,,So Cain killed Abel then Seth was born and more adamics and more adamics,,,so satan sent his angels to do the same thing he did in the garden.....So the angels started having sex with all the adamic women until it was only Noahs family left....! family that Christ could come though so God flooded them,,,,,then the angels came back in the book of numbers,,,but whatever it didnt work Christ was born......
I would have added alot more but I know how much you dislike Hebrew and Greek
So you asked to start a topic I did you said explain how Satan had sex with Eve I did anyhing else?????
I got some questions