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dennis mann
born-again = baptized in the Holy Spirit

how does God change a wicked sinner into a wonderful, loving christian?..........by the mighty power of the BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

what is the mightiest miracle that the world has ever seen?
Acts 2 pentecost?
splitting of the Red sea?
walking on water?
feeding the 5000 with just a few loaves and fishes?
no,............it is being born-again............don't under-estimate the "BORN-AGAIN" experience..........it is God's mightiest miracle

the sinner has free-will.........how does God change a sinner into a Saint?...........it's not easy!...........ONLY God can do it..........how does a Holy God In-dwell a man?...............it's a Miracle!

how does a Holy God pronounce a sinner to be Righteous?............It's a miracle

when we're BAPTIZED IN WATER.....it's a physical ritual, ,,,,,,,,to show the world that this man has become a christian.
When we're BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, God places us IN CHRIST..........we are submerged into the Holy Spirit, and we are raised to NEW RESURRECTION LIFE...............we are raised from the dead (Spiritually)....it's a Resurrection!

Hallelujah!
damo7


be care full dennis we have law abiding citazens hear who tend to look to the old testament and only go by what paul had to say

also we have sevral hear who have this gift its as if they can sence who are the real born again christians




jesus gives us the perfect example dennis of what it means to be baptized in the holy spirit


thoug i notice that today christians see paul as the true jesus but what puzzles me paul was not taught by jesus or did he sit under his teaching when he was alive and it was only jesus and the disciples

paul comes into the picture when the mob had jesus killed



Acts 19

1 it was while Apollos was in cornith that paul passed through the inland districts and came to Ephesus he found a few disciples there

2 And asked them did you receive the holy spirit when you believed ? they answered him no we havent even heard that there is a holy spirit

3 He then asked into what were you baptized they answered into johns baptisem

4 Then paul said john baptized with a baptism of repentance telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him that is in jesus

5 on hearing this they were baptized in the name of the lord jesus

6 when paul laid his hands on them the holy spirit came on them and they began to speak in tongues and to prophesy


this is just one example


but even by what i am leaving hear we will hear that its not as authentic as it was in acts

also our assistant pastor shared on his understanding of what baptism means and shared how he got asked to leave the anglican church and then searched and found him self a member of the unitting church until the unitting church of Australia did a raft and had al unitting church pastors follow its guidlines when it comes to baptism then the poor assistant pastor was asked to leave the unitting church due to sharing what he was doing among the young people and said hey we are doing what jesus had asked john the baptist do he shared how if found him self a member of the church of christ and said how he liked how they did not control what their pastors did thats when the holy spirit was introduced to the church of christ he was asked to pastor



know i weight for the serpant seed rubbish and everything else to be introduced in your topic you set up




God bless from damo
dennis mann
a born-again man struggles .............the flesh against the Spirit

the old "dennis" loves the flesh..........the pride of life, the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh,
mini-dresses, lipstick, pretty girls, money, riches, selfishness, laziness, entertainment, girl-watching, gluttony, etc

the new "dennis" loves the Holy Spirit of Jesus.........love, joy, wisdom, God, Bible, charity, humility, helpfulness, good works, self-control, forgiveness, etc

if i follow Jesus............if i "walk after the Spirit,,,,,,,,,i will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh

the flesh wars against the Spirit.

false religions crave the things of the flesh
True Religion craves the things of God........Spiritual Things


Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
dennis mann
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 18 2008, 04:13 AM) *
be care full dennis we have law abiding citazens hear who tend to look to the old testament and only go by what paul had to say

also we have sevral hear who have this gift its as if they can sence who are the real born again christians




jesus gives us the perfect example dennis of what it means to be baptized in the holy spirit


thoug i notice that today christians see paul as the true jesus but what puzzles me paul was not taught by jesus or did he sit under his teaching when he was alive and it was only jesus and the disciples

paul comes into the picture when the mob had jesus killed



Acts 19

1 it was while Apollos was in cornith that paul passed through the inland districts and came to Ephesus he found a few disciples there

2 And asked them did you receive the holy spirit when you believed ? they answered him no we havent even heard that there is a holy spirit

3 He then asked into what were you baptized they answered into johns baptisem

4 Then paul said john baptized with a baptism of repentance telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him that is in jesus

5 on hearing this they were baptized in the name of the lord jesus

6 when paul laid his hands on them the holy spirit came on them and they began to speak in tongues and to prophesy


this is just one example


but even by what i am leaving hear we will hear that its not as authentic as it was in acts

also our assistant pastor shared on his understanding of what baptism means and shared how he got asked to leave the anglican church and then searched and found him self a member of the unitting church until the unitting church of Australia did a raft and had al unitting church pastors follow its guidlines when it comes to baptism then the poor assistant pastor was asked to leave the unitting church due to sharing what he was doing among the young people and said hey we are doing what jesus had asked john the baptist do he shared how if found him self a member of the church of christ and said how he liked how they did not control what their pastors did thats when the holy spirit was introduced to the church of christ he was asked to pastor



know i weight for the serpant seed rubbish and everything else to be introduced in your topic you set up




God bless from damo




Paul did not learn the Gospel from any-one except Jesus Himself.
Paul was taught by the resurrected Christ, in Arabia.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Gal 1:21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;
Gal 1:22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
Gal 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
Gal 1:24 And they glorified God in me.
dennis mann
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Aug 18 2008, 03:36 AM) *
born-again = baptized in the Holy Spirit

how does God change a wicked sinner into a wonderful, loving christian?..........by the mighty power of the BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

what is the mightiest miracle that the world has ever seen?
Acts 2 pentecost?
splitting of the Red sea?
walking on water?
feeding the 5000 with just a few loaves and fishes?
no,............it is being born-again............don't under-estimate the "BORN-AGAIN" experience..........it is God's mightiest miracle

the sinner has free-will.........how does God change a sinner into a Saint?...........it's not easy!...........ONLY God can do it..........how does a Holy God In-dwell a man?...............it's a Miracle!

how does a Holy God pronounce a sinner to be Righteous?............It's a miracle

when we're BAPTIZED IN WATER.....it's a physical ritual, ,,,,,,,,to show the world that this man has become a christian.
When we're BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, God places us IN CHRIST..........we are submerged into the Holy Spirit, and we are raised to NEW RESURRECTION LIFE...............we are raised from the dead (Spiritually)....it's a Resurrection!

Hallelujah!



Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:


water-baptism is a PHYSICAL RITUAL, which is a picture of the DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

He died, was buried, and resurrected,,,,,,,,,so we do the same thing (as a physical ritual)........a sign to the world.

BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is a parallel of the WATER-BAPTISM.
WATER-BAPTISM is physical.
SPIRIT-BAPTISM is a Spiritual event, which is the Spiritual DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION of the sinner (now made a Saint)............and the Saint now walks in the foot-steps of the RISEN CHRIST IN RESURRECTION POWER.


WATER-BAPTISM is a physical picture-story of the SPIRIT-BAPTISM.
Bro.Tan
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Aug 18 2008, 04:33 AM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Aug 18 2008, 03:36 AM) *
born-again = baptized in the Holy Spirit

how does God change a wicked sinner into a wonderful, loving christian?..........by the mighty power of the BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

what is the mightiest miracle that the world has ever seen?
Acts 2 pentecost?
splitting of the Red sea?
walking on water?
feeding the 5000 with just a few loaves and fishes?
no,............it is being born-again............don't under-estimate the "BORN-AGAIN" experience..........it is God's mightiest miracle

the sinner has free-will.........how does God change a sinner into a Saint?...........it's not easy!...........ONLY God can do it..........how does a Holy God In-dwell a man?...............it's a Miracle!

how does a Holy God pronounce a sinner to be Righteous?............It's a miracle

when we're BAPTIZED IN WATER.....it's a physical ritual, ,,,,,,,,to show the world that this man has become a christian.
When we're BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, God places us IN CHRIST..........we are submerged into the Holy Spirit, and we are raised to NEW RESURRECTION LIFE...............we are raised from the dead (Spiritually)....it's a Resurrection!

Hallelujah!



Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:


water-baptism is a PHYSICAL RITUAL, which is a picture of the DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

He died, was buried, and resurrected,,,,,,,,,so we do the same thing (as a physical ritual)........a sign to the world.

BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is a parallel of the WATER-BAPTISM.
WATER-BAPTISM is physical.
SPIRIT-BAPTISM is a Spiritual event, which is the Spiritual DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION of the sinner (now made a Saint)............and the Saint now walks in the foot-steps of the RISEN CHRIST IN RESURRECTION POWER.


WATER-BAPTISM is a physical picture-story of the SPIRIT-BAPTISM.

Its good to repent and be baptize in the name of jesus, and walk in knewest of life. That means keeping the commandment
statues and judgements. Lets take a look at how series these commandment are. Lets read Jame ch2:[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Now lets look at the definition of sin in the bible 1John ch3:[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1John ch2:[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. And one of the main commandments that goes by people head like a bullet is the sabbath day.
Lets read Exodus ch20:[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Another thing is the dietary law.....Leviticus ch11:[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
[3] Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
[4] Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. Read the rest now.
Another thing, the lord High days, keep in mind Paul an the apostles kept these high days. Jesus kept these
high day.....Leviticus ch23:[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.[4] These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. Matthew ch5:[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Lets not forget the fruits of the spirit.
dennis mann
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:15 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Aug 18 2008, 04:33 AM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Aug 18 2008, 03:36 AM) *
born-again = baptized in the Holy Spirit

how does God change a wicked sinner into a wonderful, loving christian?..........by the mighty power of the BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

what is the mightiest miracle that the world has ever seen?
Acts 2 pentecost?
splitting of the Red sea?
walking on water?
feeding the 5000 with just a few loaves and fishes?
no,............it is being born-again............don't under-estimate the "BORN-AGAIN" experience..........it is God's mightiest miracle

the sinner has free-will.........how does God change a sinner into a Saint?...........it's not easy!...........ONLY God can do it..........how does a Holy God In-dwell a man?...............it's a Miracle!

how does a Holy God pronounce a sinner to be Righteous?............It's a miracle

when we're BAPTIZED IN WATER.....it's a physical ritual, ,,,,,,,,to show the world that this man has become a christian.
When we're BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, God places us IN CHRIST..........we are submerged into the Holy Spirit, and we are raised to NEW RESURRECTION LIFE...............we are raised from the dead (Spiritually)....it's a Resurrection!

Hallelujah!



Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:


water-baptism is a PHYSICAL RITUAL, which is a picture of the DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

He died, was buried, and resurrected,,,,,,,,,so we do the same thing (as a physical ritual)........a sign to the world.

BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is a parallel of the WATER-BAPTISM.
WATER-BAPTISM is physical.
SPIRIT-BAPTISM is a Spiritual event, which is the Spiritual DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION of the sinner (now made a Saint)............and the Saint now walks in the foot-steps of the RISEN CHRIST IN RESURRECTION POWER.


WATER-BAPTISM is a physical picture-story of the SPIRIT-BAPTISM.

Its good to repent and be baptize in the name of jesus, and walk in knewest of life. That means keeping the commandment
statues and judgements. Lets take a look at how series these commandment are. Lets read Jame ch2:[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Now lets look at the definition of sin in the bible 1John ch3:[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1John ch2:[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. And one of the main commandments that goes by people head like a bullet is the sabbath day.
Lets read Exodus ch20:[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Another thing is the dietary law.....Leviticus ch11:[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
[3] Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
[4] Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. Read the rest now.
Another thing, the lord High days, keep in mind Paul an the apostles kept these high days. Jesus kept these
high day.....Leviticus ch23:[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.[4] These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. Matthew ch5:[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Lets not forget the fruits of the spirit.



but, i'm not a Judaizer

i'm not an Israelite in OT times

i'm a NT believer...........i can eat pork
i work 7 days per week
colossians 2;16

a Judaizer preaches "another gospel",,,,,,,,,and Paul said "let them be accursed"............read Galatians

you're making a horrific Judaizer mistake!
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