Bro.Tan
Aug 17 2008, 02:51 PM
Greetings once again to the word of God. How many of you readers think that God will accept homosexuals in the kingdom of God? Once you read through this article, you will surely pick a side to be on. Wither it be God's side or man's side, nothing will change the judgment the Lord have against sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals.
The Lord wanted to see for himself this great sin the city of Sodom committed. Abraham was with the Lord and Abraham ask the Lord, will you destroy the righteous with the wicked. In Genesis 18:26 the Lord told him, if I find 50 righteous I will spare the place for their sakes. The Lord did not find 50, 45, 40, 30, neither did the Lord find 10 righteous people. Therefore, the Lord sent two angel's to destroy Sodom. Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly
Genesis 19:6-9 inform us that Lot tried to plead with them concerning the law, and that this was wicked. The men of Sodom confronted Lot to tell him, who are you, a judge. They were going to deal with Lot worse than with the men in the house, The angels of the Lord pulled Lot into the house and blinded the men of Sodom at the door. In Genesis 19:12-13, the angel told Lot to get his family together and leave this place because “the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”
In 1 Kings 14:21-22 Rehoboam allowed Judah to do the things evil in the eyes of God; and there were sodomites in the land. A few years after Rehoboam another king rose up named Asa. 1 Kings 15:11 says Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord. Asa took away the sodomites out the land and so did his son Jehoshaphat, who reign in his fathers stead. Generations passed and the people had strayed away from God. The book of the law was lost and the people continues to sin. In 2 Kings chapter 22, a king came up named Josiah who reigned 31 years in Jerusalem. During this time of Josiah's rule, carpenter, builders and mason workers was repairing the house of the Lord. Hilkiah the priest was with the workers and he found the book of the Law. Hilkiah gave the book to Shapan the scribe to read it to the king.
After reading the book of the law Josiah gathered together elders, priest, prophets, and all the people small and great to read the book of the law to them. In 2 kings 23:3 Josiah made a covenant before the Lord and a agreement with the people to perform the words of this covenant in the book, and the people kept the covenant. During this time of obedience, Josiah killed the idolatrous priest and torn down their high places, stopped the children of Hinnom from sacrificing their kids to false gods,
and broke down the houses of the sodomites. Josiah did these things because in the book he read Leviticus 18: 22 and Leviticus 20:13, as well as Deuteronomy 22:5; 23: 17.
The world say Jesus done a new things and that we are under grace and not the law! But look at what the bible say...Romans 6:1 “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.” Romans 7:7 “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid.” Read the WHOLE chapter one of Romans and see this NEW THING concerning homosexuals and bisexual's, and tell me is this something new.Romans ch7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. You know what else is good the judgment that is set forth for those you take pleasure in the vile acts of ungodliness. In 1 Corinthians 6: 9 effeminate correlates in the dictionary as being a man who is feminine; and will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In Judges chapter 19, a Levite, his concubine and his servant traveled and lodged in the land of Benjamin. An old man took them into his home to cater to them that day. It is writing that Sodomites surrounded the house to get to know this man; the same as they desired in the city of Sodom. The old man told them “not to do this folly.” I'll bring my daughter and the Levite concubine out ...but to this man do not so a vile thing. As you read the rest of Judges chapter 19, 20, 21 you see that thousand's and thousand's of Benjamites were killed because they condoned homosexuality.James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Matter of fact the bible says, do good to all men. Our point is, don't give in to any manner of ungodliness, thinking it is okay.
Do you remember on the news this year of 2008 when the supreme court rule 4 to 3 in favor of same sex marriage in California? What did the homosexually say that was on the news...he said “today California tomorrow America.” We know that homosexuality is all across America, but look at the example the God is showing us with California. Those examples are earthquakes and huge wild fires which was stated on the news, to be uncontained and burning for weeks at a time. We read in 2 Peter 2:6 that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha is an example to those that should live ungodly. Look what the bible says about preserving yourself blameless until he comes (1 Thess. 5:23). Are we blameless? Do we sin inadvertently or do we sin willfully. Which one will get you punished by God (2 Peter 2:9).
Let us continue to remember the consequences of sin. But for this case and point we leave you with a very important message from the prophet Jude.
Jude 1:5 “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not...7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Smoke in the city.
Peace in jesus name
HeIsFaithful
Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM
He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
chinnam naidu
Aug 17 2008, 08:44 PM
every thing GOD,s Creation.
Bro.Tan
Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
AppyGroove
Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM
Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual ?
ozell
Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
Bro.Tan
Aug 18 2008, 08:03 PM
[quote name='AppyGroove' date='Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM' post='224286']
Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual?
I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
Dan
Aug 18 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM)

Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual ?
No! But they are all born in sin and need to repent and forsake everything to follow Christ if they want to be saved.
Luke 14
33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.
.
Gideon7620
Aug 18 2008, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Ha very true the key word is repentance. Many corrupt minded and corrupted in doctrine churches teach these lost souls that they can keep their life- and receive salvation, not true. How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer in the lust there in. GOd forbid.
Unfortunately, these for the most part have reprobated minds and oftimes it is hard for them to accept God's grace and gift of salvation. They want to do it there way usually.
Gideon7620
Aug 18 2008, 08:26 PM
Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual?
I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
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Absolutely not. Homosexuality is a learned trait as is lesbianism. It is learned as a murderer learns to murder or a robber learns to rob. It is a vile whicked sin that God hates nearly as much as blasphemy to the Holy Ghost. The second greatest sin is homosexuality and lesbianism.
Bro.Tan
Aug 18 2008, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
Thats absoluty right.
chinnam naidu
Aug 18 2008, 09:52 PM
homosexuals need to repentence from their sins
Spiritofprophecy
Aug 18 2008, 10:09 PM
Greetings in the name of Jesus:
I was once called Homophobic; and given a three day ban from a Christian Chat room: for saying or posting what I am about to post. I shall let all be the Judge, if it is Homophobic.
The Homosexual who repents and finds God, is Great in the Kingdom of Heaven, and is much beloved, for he has overcome much.
I pray my words do not offend any, God bless all Christians in forum, and all those who use it.
AppyGroove
Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
Bro.Tan
Aug 21 2008, 09:24 PM
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
ThisWind
Aug 21 2008, 09:55 PM
The people of Sodom and Ghomorra were not all homosexuals, yet not 10 could be found to be saved.
Fornication is fornication. Sacrificing children is a definite sin as it violates one of the Ten Commandments (Thou shalt not murder).
So who throws the first stone again?
GodLovesYou
Aug 23 2008, 01:02 PM
Again, I have to side with you Justice. Fornication needs to be repented for and that is a good reference about the 10 that could not be found to be saved.
Repent, all the homosexuals and God will forgive you!
Bro.Tan
Aug 23 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
What does the God of the creation think about homosexuality? He is very clear on identifying the act of homosexuality as a sin. If an individual sows iniquity, they will reap corruption. Those of us that believe and know the Truth are not careful to say…“There is a pestilence in the land because of ‘homosexual’ activity.” There has been an increase in the acceptance of homosexuality in our country as indicated by the figures collected by the U.S. Census. The U.S. Census Bureau reported that, “The number of American households reporting same-sex partners skyrocketed over the past decade.” The Census counted 1,933 same-sex couple households last year in Vermont, up from an estimated 370 in 1990, a fivefold jump.
Delaware had an even greater increase from an estimated 212 to 1,868 households, a nearly nine fold increase. Vermont and Delaware were the first states to receive the latest wave of data, with all 50 to get the material by late August. Four months before Vermont's civil union’s law took effect, the Census Bureau asked Americans questions designed to get the best picture yet of how many live with a partner of the same sex. Unmarried partner statistics in 1990 were based on a sample of responses; 2000 figures were based on a count of all households. Fewer than 5 percent of the country's unmarried partner households in 1990 were made up of same-sex couples. Comparable numbers for 2000 will not be known until all state figures are released.
As the statistics indicate there is a wave of acceptance of homosexuality in our country. Even though the masses may accept this let’s see what the Most High God thinks about this subject. We will take a look at the Law first. Once we have established homosexuality as being a sin, then we will look at the Lord’s wrath being poured out because of this abomination. Let’s go into Leviticus the 20th chapter and read the 13th verse.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)
“….they shall surely be put to death...” Being that we are under the new covenant, which are the same laws that were given to Moses, no man is clean enough to put anyone to death, the Lord will take care of that Judgment.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses (Hebrews 10:28.)
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31).
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Jake William
Aug 23 2008, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 17 2008, 12:51 PM)

Greetings once again to the word of God. How many of you readers think that God will accept homosexuals in the kingdom of God? Once you read through this article, you will surely pick a side to be on. Wither it be God's side or man's side, nothing will change the judgment the Lord have against sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals.
The Lord wanted to see for himself this great sin the city of Sodom committed. Abraham was with the Lord and Abraham ask the Lord, will you destroy the righteous with the wicked. In Genesis 18:26 the Lord told him, if I find 50 righteous I will spare the place for their sakes. The Lord did not find 50, 45, 40, 30, neither did the Lord find 10 righteous people. Therefore, the Lord sent two angel's to destroy Sodom. Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly
Genesis 19:6-9 inform us that Lot tried to plead with them concerning the law, and that this was wicked. The men of Sodom confronted Lot to tell him, who are you, a judge. They were going to deal with Lot worse than with the men in the house, The angels of the Lord pulled Lot into the house and blinded the men of Sodom at the door. In Genesis 19:12-13, the angel told Lot to get his family together and leave this place because “the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”
In 1 Kings 14:21-22 Rehoboam allowed Judah to do the things evil in the eyes of God; and there were sodomites in the land. A few years after Rehoboam another king rose up named Asa. 1 Kings 15:11 says Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord. Asa took away the sodomites out the land and so did his son Jehoshaphat, who reign in his fathers stead. Generations passed and the people had strayed away from God. The book of the law was lost and the people continues to sin. In 2 Kings chapter 22, a king came up named Josiah who reigned 31 years in Jerusalem. During this time of Josiah's rule, carpenter, builders and mason workers was repairing the house of the Lord. Hilkiah the priest was with the workers and he found the book of the Law. Hilkiah gave the book to Shapan the scribe to read it to the king.
After reading the book of the law Josiah gathered together elders, priest, prophets, and all the people small and great to read the book of the law to them. In 2 kings 23:3 Josiah made a covenant before the Lord and a agreement with the people to perform the words of this covenant in the book, and the people kept the covenant. During this time of obedience, Josiah killed the idolatrous priest and torn down their high places, stopped the children of Hinnom from sacrificing their kids to false gods,
and broke down the houses of the sodomites. Josiah did these things because in the book he read Leviticus 18: 22 and Leviticus 20:13, as well as Deuteronomy 22:5; 23: 17.
The world say Jesus done a new things and that we are under grace and not the law! But look at what the bible say...Romans 6:1 “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.” Romans 7:7 “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid.” Read the WHOLE chapter one of Romans and see this NEW THING concerning homosexuals and bisexual's, and tell me is this something new.Romans ch7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. You know what else is good the judgment that is set forth for those you take pleasure in the vile acts of ungodliness. In 1 Corinthians 6: 9 effeminate correlates in the dictionary as being a man who is feminine; and will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In Judges chapter 19, a Levite, his concubine and his servant traveled and lodged in the land of Benjamin. An old man took them into his home to cater to them that day. It is writing that Sodomites surrounded the house to get to know this man; the same as they desired in the city of Sodom. The old man told them “not to do this folly.” I'll bring my daughter and the Levite concubine out ...but to this man do not so a vile thing. As you read the rest of Judges chapter 19, 20, 21 you see that thousand's and thousand's of Benjamites were killed because they condoned homosexuality.James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Matter of fact the bible says, do good to all men. Our point is, don't give in to any manner of ungodliness, thinking it is okay.
Do you remember on the news this year of 2008 when the supreme court rule 4 to 3 in favor of same sex marriage in California? What did the homosexually say that was on the news...he said “today California tomorrow America.” We know that homosexuality is all across America, but look at the example the God is showing us with California. Those examples are earthquakes and huge wild fires which was stated on the news, to be uncontained and burning for weeks at a time. We read in 2 Peter 2:6 that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha is an example to those that should live ungodly. Look what the bible says about preserving yourself blameless until he comes (1 Thess. 5:23). Are we blameless? Do we sin inadvertently or do we sin willfully. Which one will get you punished by God (2 Peter 2:9).
Let us continue to remember the consequences of sin. But for this case and point we leave you with a very important message from the prophet Jude.
Jude 1:5 “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not...7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Smoke in the city.
Peace in jesus name
Greetings,
All of these verses of judgment are true. Where is the mercy? Many Christians believe the only issues of importance are homosexuality and abortion. Christians perceive that the gay-rights movement seeks to manipulate the levers of state power to enforce their doctrine of rights in a manner that threatens the religious freedom of Christians.The student of prophecy may understand that an even greater threat to religious freedom is described symbolically in Revelation 13. How far will the secular agenda swing before the pendulum reverses? Only God knows.
Sin is sin, whether it's homosexuality, murder, adultery, pride, .... even wonderful kindness can be masked in self-preservation. Why do I speak to your post? Because I have ministered to the homeless and homosexuality is amongst them. Some have been turned around with the message of the cross. Judgement AND
mercy. When I was a young man, alcohol had me by the throat. Was I changed by a cluster of verses one after another about drunkedness? No, this only left me more in despair. The law without grace only makes sin abound even more. Yet when someone came along and "rightly divided the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15), full of "grace and truth" I was drawn by the power of the cross. " "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth,
will draw all men unto me." John 12:32.
Sorry, really didn't understand your point, do you think that we should now dabble into
worldly politics and "set things right?" How do we reach the sinner? "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations: and then shall the end come" (Matt. 24:14). And what is the Gospel? .... GOOD NEWS of course!
blessings in Christ,
Jake
Bro.Tan
Aug 23 2008, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (Jake William @ Aug 23 2008, 07:42 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 17 2008, 12:51 PM)

Greetings once again to the word of God. How many of you readers think that God will accept homosexuals in the kingdom of God? Once you read through this article, you will surely pick a side to be on. Wither it be God's side or man's side, nothing will change the judgment the Lord have against sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals.
The Lord wanted to see for himself this great sin the city of Sodom committed. Abraham was with the Lord and Abraham ask the Lord, will you destroy the righteous with the wicked. In Genesis 18:26 the Lord told him, if I find 50 righteous I will spare the place for their sakes. The Lord did not find 50, 45, 40, 30, neither did the Lord find 10 righteous people. Therefore, the Lord sent two angel's to destroy Sodom. Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly
Genesis 19:6-9 inform us that Lot tried to plead with them concerning the law, and that this was wicked. The men of Sodom confronted Lot to tell him, who are you, a judge. They were going to deal with Lot worse than with the men in the house, The angels of the Lord pulled Lot into the house and blinded the men of Sodom at the door. In Genesis 19:12-13, the angel told Lot to get his family together and leave this place because “the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”
In 1 Kings 14:21-22 Rehoboam allowed Judah to do the things evil in the eyes of God; and there were sodomites in the land. A few years after Rehoboam another king rose up named Asa. 1 Kings 15:11 says Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord. Asa took away the sodomites out the land and so did his son Jehoshaphat, who reign in his fathers stead. Generations passed and the people had strayed away from God. The book of the law was lost and the people continues to sin. In 2 Kings chapter 22, a king came up named Josiah who reigned 31 years in Jerusalem. During this time of Josiah's rule, carpenter, builders and mason workers was repairing the house of the Lord. Hilkiah the priest was with the workers and he found the book of the Law. Hilkiah gave the book to Shapan the scribe to read it to the king.
After reading the book of the law Josiah gathered together elders, priest, prophets, and all the people small and great to read the book of the law to them. In 2 kings 23:3 Josiah made a covenant before the Lord and a agreement with the people to perform the words of this covenant in the book, and the people kept the covenant. During this time of obedience, Josiah killed the idolatrous priest and torn down their high places, stopped the children of Hinnom from sacrificing their kids to false gods,
and broke down the houses of the sodomites. Josiah did these things because in the book he read Leviticus 18: 22 and Leviticus 20:13, as well as Deuteronomy 22:5; 23: 17.
The world say Jesus done a new things and that we are under grace and not the law! But look at what the bible say...Romans 6:1 “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.” Romans 7:7 “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid.” Read the WHOLE chapter one of Romans and see this NEW THING concerning homosexuals and bisexual's, and tell me is this something new.Romans ch7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. You know what else is good the judgment that is set forth for those you take pleasure in the vile acts of ungodliness. In 1 Corinthians 6: 9 effeminate correlates in the dictionary as being a man who is feminine; and will not inherit the kingdom of God.
In Judges chapter 19, a Levite, his concubine and his servant traveled and lodged in the land of Benjamin. An old man took them into his home to cater to them that day. It is writing that Sodomites surrounded the house to get to know this man; the same as they desired in the city of Sodom. The old man told them “not to do this folly.” I'll bring my daughter and the Levite concubine out ...but to this man do not so a vile thing. As you read the rest of Judges chapter 19, 20, 21 you see that thousand's and thousand's of Benjamites were killed because they condoned homosexuality.James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Matter of fact the bible says, do good to all men. Our point is, don't give in to any manner of ungodliness, thinking it is okay.
Do you remember on the news this year of 2008 when the supreme court rule 4 to 3 in favor of same sex marriage in California? What did the homosexually say that was on the news...he said “today California tomorrow America.” We know that homosexuality is all across America, but look at the example the God is showing us with California. Those examples are earthquakes and huge wild fires which was stated on the news, to be uncontained and burning for weeks at a time. We read in 2 Peter 2:6 that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha is an example to those that should live ungodly. Look what the bible says about preserving yourself blameless until he comes (1 Thess. 5:23). Are we blameless? Do we sin inadvertently or do we sin willfully. Which one will get you punished by God (2 Peter 2:9).
Let us continue to remember the consequences of sin. But for this case and point we leave you with a very important message from the prophet Jude.
Jude 1:5 “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not...7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Smoke in the city.
Peace in jesus name
Greetings,
All of these verses of judgment are true. Where is the mercy? Many Christians believe the only issues of importance are homosexuality and abortion. Christians perceive that the gay-rights movement seeks to manipulate the levers of state power to enforce their doctrine of rights in a manner that threatens the religious freedom of Christians.The student of prophecy may understand that an even greater threat to religious freedom is described symbolically in Revelation 13. How far will the secular agenda swing before the pendulum reverses? Only God knows.
Sin is sin, whether it's homosexuality, murder, adultery, pride, .... even wonderful kindness can be masked in self-preservation. Why do I speak to your post? Because I have ministered to the homeless and homosexuality is amongst them. Some have been turned around with the message of the cross. Judgement AND
mercy. When I was a young man, alcohol had me by the throat. Was I changed by a cluster of verses one after another about drunkedness? No, this only left me more in despair. The law without grace only makes sin abound even more. Yet when someone came along and "rightly divided the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15), full of "grace and truth" I was drawn by the power of the cross. " "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth,
will draw all men unto me." John 12:32.
Sorry, really didn't understand your point, do you think that we should now dabble into
worldly politics and "set things right?" How do we reach the sinner? "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations: and then shall the end come" (Matt. 24:14). And what is the Gospel? .... GOOD NEWS of course!
blessings in Christ,
Jake
The thing is, if were"re paying close attending to how the world is accepting this folly, then you should see were
this is going. Its going back into the days of sodom and Gormorah.The condition of man is out of course,
the Lord already call the end from the beginning. The mercy is this, if you are still breathing repent.
Ecclesiastes 9:3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.
We know the Lord is coming back, and we know about the Lake of fire, so this the time that mercy is do, we
got to keep his commandments. That why the Lord got a lake of fire, those whose refuse to keep the law.
Proverbs 9: 10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding
Bro.Tan
Aug 25 2008, 09:12 AM
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
Check out this artical that was sent to me, by my brother.
Now on the Hallmark aisle: Gay marriage cards
Thursday August 21, 5:10 pm ET
By Sarah Skidmore, AP Business Writer
Hallmark, seeing a new market after California ruling, rolls out gay marriage greeting cards
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Most states don't recognize gay marriage -- but now Hallmark does.
The nation's largest greeting card company is rolling out same-sex wedding cards -- featuring two tuxedos, overlapping hearts or intertwined flowers, with best wishes inside.
"Two hearts. One promise," one says.
Hallmark added the cards after California joined Massachusetts as the only U.S. states with legal gay marriage. A handful of other states have recognized same-sex civil unions.
The language inside the cards is neutral, with no mention of wedding or marriage, making them also suitable for a commitment ceremony. Hallmark says the move is a response to consumer demand, not any political pressure
Now money is being made over this act, I shorten the artical up a bit, but this is the world we live in.
Bro.Tan
Aug 25 2008, 09:12 AM
QUOTE (ozell @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 04:50 PM)

QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 17 2008, 07:43 PM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
Thats true and we hope that they repent. But in some cases like romans ch1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
amen.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Sodomites know that there act is against the convenant of God
and by doing this they sin wilfully.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
did the Lord die for there sins, Yes he did.
but if they continue to sin what sin did he die for
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
when did they become a past sin if they never repented.
they are still in there sins,
and since they continue to sin
Hebrews 10v
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
this is after Jesus death and resurrection
Paul is letting us know which is his manner, that sin is still prevalant.
men laying with men and women laying with women is a sin, as is man laying with animals
Check out this artical that was sent to me, by my brother.
Now on the Hallmark aisle: Gay marriage cards
Thursday August 21, 5:10 pm ET
By Sarah Skidmore, AP Business Writer
Hallmark, seeing a new market after California ruling, rolls out gay marriage greeting cards
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Most states don't recognize gay marriage -- but now Hallmark does.
The nation's largest greeting card company is rolling out same-sex wedding cards -- featuring two tuxedos, overlapping hearts or intertwined flowers, with best wishes inside.
"Two hearts. One promise," one says.
Hallmark added the cards after California joined Massachusetts as the only U.S. states with legal gay marriage. A handful of other states have recognized same-sex civil unions.
The language inside the cards is neutral, with no mention of wedding or marriage, making them also suitable for a commitment ceremony. Hallmark says the move is a response to consumer demand, not any political pressure
Now money is being made over this act, I shorten the artical up a bit, but this is the world we live in.
Bro.Tan
Aug 27 2008, 06:12 PM
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (James 1:14-15)
Homosexuality is not an abnormality; it is a result of an individual’s own sexual desires. Once this takes place, what happens? Note what the verse says, "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." This death is the second death, which is the Lake of Fire. Let’s take a look at some of Paul’s writings.
Most people read a lot of the Paul writing, but Paul talks about the Lords commandments. Paul mentions men of God that knew the scriptures, but failed to revere the ONLY REVEREND meaning REV. JESUS, the Lord gave them up because of unbelief and allowed them to commit vile acts such as lying with the same sex. Let’s take a look:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:18-21)
Note what the verse says, "Who hold the truth in unrighteousness." Here we see these men knew the truth but "they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart were darkened." They professed themselves to be wise but became fools. Let’s skip down to the 24th verse.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (Romans 1:24-28)
Note what’s being said, "God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature, men with men working that which is unseemly…" God placed men and women on this earth to be fruitful and to multiply.
This isn’t a genetic thing, which suits the taste of the general public. These individuals that call themselves homosexuals simply have unbridled sexual desire that came out of their own imaginations, they were not born that way. Therefore, we have a dreaded plague among us that’s not only devastating the gay community; it’s also spilling over into heterosexual assemblage as indicated by the AIDS crisis that has been mounting in the world.
Gideon7620
Aug 27 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 27 2008, 06:12 PM)

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (James 1:14-15)
Homosexuality is not an abnormality; it is a result of an individual’s own sexual desires. Once this takes place, what happens? Note what the verse says, "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." This death is the second death, which is the Lake of Fire. Let’s take a look at some of Paul’s writings.
Most people read a lot of the Paul writing, but Paul talks about the Lords commandments. Paul mentions men of God that knew the scriptures, but failed to revere the ONLY REVEREND meaning REV. JESUS, the Lord gave them up because of unbelief and allowed them to commit vile acts such as lying with the same sex. Let’s take a look:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:18-21)
Note what the verse says, "Who hold the truth in unrighteousness." Here we see these men knew the truth but "they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart were darkened." They professed themselves to be wise but became fools. Let’s skip down to the 24th verse.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (Romans 1:24-28)
Note what’s being said, "God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature, men with men working that which is unseemly…" God placed men and women on this earth to be fruitful and to multiply.
This isn’t a genetic thing, which suits the taste of the general public. These individuals that call themselves homosexuals simply have unbridled sexual desire that came out of their own imaginations, they were not born that way. Therefore, we have a dreaded plague among us that’s not only devastating the gay community; it’s also spilling over into heterosexual assemblage as indicated by the AIDS crisis that has been mounting in the world.
Amen, and God gives these vile offenders over to a reprobate mind for such reason it is hard for them to repent. They want their own religion, god, and enjoy twisting the word of God. They always claim love but know not the definition of it. They want churches to accept them in their sin practices and not as repented sinners.
Bro.Tan
Aug 27 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (Gideon7620 @ Aug 27 2008, 07:15 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 27 2008, 06:12 PM)

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (James 1:14-15)
Homosexuality is not an abnormality; it is a result of an individual’s own sexual desires. Once this takes place, what happens? Note what the verse says, "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." This death is the second death, which is the Lake of Fire. Let’s take a look at some of Paul’s writings.
Most people read a lot of the Paul writing, but Paul talks about the Lords commandments. Paul mentions men of God that knew the scriptures, but failed to revere the ONLY REVEREND meaning REV. JESUS, the Lord gave them up because of unbelief and allowed them to commit vile acts such as lying with the same sex. Let’s take a look:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:18-21)
Note what the verse says, "Who hold the truth in unrighteousness." Here we see these men knew the truth but "they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart were darkened." They professed themselves to be wise but became fools. Let’s skip down to the 24th verse.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (Romans 1:24-28)
Note what’s being said, "God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature, men with men working that which is unseemly…" God placed men and women on this earth to be fruitful and to multiply.
This isn’t a genetic thing, which suits the taste of the general public. These individuals that call themselves homosexuals simply have unbridled sexual desire that came out of their own imaginations, they were not born that way. Therefore, we have a dreaded plague among us that’s not only devastating the gay community; it’s also spilling over into heterosexual assemblage as indicated by the AIDS crisis that has been mounting in the world.
Amen, and God gives these vile offenders over to a reprobate mind for such reason it is hard for them to repent. They want their own religion, god, and enjoy twisting the word of God. They always claim love but know not the definition of it. They want churches to accept them in their sin practices and not as repented sinners.
Thank you ,looks like we agree on something.
Bro.Tan
Aug 28 2008, 12:51 PM
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (I Timothy 1:9-10)
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Aug 28 2008, 01:33 PM
Rather than beating the dead horse of condemnation, have any Christians here actually TRIED to reach out in CHRIST'S LOVE to the Homosexual and show or lead them to Christ, the TRUTH, LIFE AND WAY, so that they may actually be delivered from the bondages of their sin and experience LIFE and LOVE in Christ with all of its abundance and liberation? Or, have most of the Christian here taken up the axiom: "I'm not my brother's keeper", or yet WORSE, "He is not my brother"?
Often Christians get so righteous that they forget the sin from which they once wallowed in before coming to know their own deliverance and liberation in Christ. The pre-Christian state of the Homosexual is no different, yet Christians forget. I doubt the Lord is proud of this.
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Spiritofprophecy
Aug 28 2008, 02:13 PM
Greetings in the name of Jesus:
If I may make one correlating point unto the subject of Homosexuality; Which has been, related to Sin, and forgiveness, and love and compassion to accept them in Gods Church; which are all good points and food for fodder as to Gods words. Sin is Sin, and all Sin if repented of, shall be forgiven.
But I would like to point to the truth, that Homosexuality, of placating the desires of the flesh, is in scriptures, termed as Wickedness. Which is to savor the things of man, above that of God, or Gods will for mankind.
But I would like to relate Homosexuality and its relationship to the times of the End, since Homosexuality is accepted in Churches by some, and Gay marriage is also acknowledged by some Churches, and Governments accepting it as Righteous. These are the facts of our Times, for we even have Gay Bishops, and Pedophile priests. Still in Churches of men.
The Prophecies of end Times, of " Calling the wicked righteous". Can be claimed as fulfilled; Since Homosexuality is termed as Wickedness in Scriptures, and now called righteous, by some denominations of men, which churches of men also, claim Jesus as Lord.
I would also like to point out that since Homosexuality and its acceptance in some Religions of men claiming Christ, can also be fulfillment of the prophecy of " before the end comes there shall be a great falling away first". Which I interpret as falling away from the basic principals of Gods words as established in Jesus times. Which the Concept of Homosexuality as Righteous in Jesus times, was not a debate as to truth of God or not, it was deemed as wickedness. Which we have " fallen away from these basic principles", with the Precepts of men denominations, having Faith by, denominations of choice of Gods will. one can find a church to placate almost any sin or evil, one seeks to retain.
So my only addition unto the subject matter of Homosexual acceptance and Acknowledgment in the Church, would be its Sin; as to fulfillment of prophesies about The End times. " Falling away" and " Calling the wicked righteous". Unless one believes, Homosexuality is righteous and not sin unto Gods will. Which is believed by some denominations. And Governments.
Which is the fundamental truth as to the Homosexual argument; that Homosexuality is not really a sin: for if it was accepted as a sure sin: then Churches of men would not Ordain Homosexual unions and Marriages in the Name of God and Jesus, claiming they are ordained and blessed unions of Gods will and the Church.
Only the sin of Homosexuality, does deny it is a sin, and argues for its righteous acceptance as being of God, and Not seen as sin by God. All other sins, are accepted by the sinner, he is doing sin; Murder, rape, Theft, false witness; the argument of righteousness is not made in these cases. Only Homosexuality is in denial of its sin nature, as to the Individual sinner.
Which again as to my point; does point to End times fulfillment of Prophetic events, which end time events, Ushers in the Great tribulation, if we are not already at the Door. Which I believe we are.
I pray my words do not offend, God bless all Christians in forum, and all those who use it.
Bro.Tan
Aug 28 2008, 07:10 PM
QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
I agree, we all born in sin, and I'm proud to hear a brother or sister repent.
AppyGroove
Aug 29 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 28 2008, 08:10 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
I agree, we all born in sin, and I'm proud to hear a brother or sister repent.
What I'm hearing is that all people (irrelevant to sexuality) need to repent... So what's being homosexual have to do with it? Maybe you should have just picked up the banner that 'everyone must repent'.
Bro.Tan
Aug 29 2008, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 29 2008, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 28 2008, 08:10 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
I agree, we all born in sin, and I'm proud to hear a brother or sister repent.
What I'm hearing is that all people (irrelevant to sexuality) need to repent... So what's being homosexual have to do with it? Maybe you should have just picked up the banner that 'everyone must repent'.
I understand what your saying, sin is sin. One thing I notice that makes a differents, and thats
man lie with mankind or woman lie with woman kind its abomination to the Lord.
Even though, both could get you in the lake of fire, but for some reason the Lord divide the commandments from
the things that are an abomination. To mind understanding, when you keep the commandments, you
walking on a narrow path, so the chances on dealing with these abomination are a little slim to none.
I didn't say none, because I know theirs people that will make it seems like they keep the law.
Theirs situation were the Lord stop dealing people...Lets go to Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Aug 30 2008, 04:28 AM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 29 2008, 10:33 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 29 2008, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 28 2008, 08:10 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
I agree, we all born in sin, and I'm proud to hear a brother or sister repent.
What I'm hearing is that all people (irrelevant to sexuality) need to repent... So what's being homosexual have to do with it? Maybe you should have just picked up the banner that 'everyone must repent'.
I understand what your saying, sin is sin. One thing I notice that makes a differents, and thats
man lie with mankind or woman lie with woman kind its abomination to the Lord.
Even though, both could get you in the lake of fire, but for some reason the Lord divide the commandments from
the things that are an abomination. To mind understanding, when you keep the commandments, you
walking on a narrow path, so the chances on dealing with these abomination are a little slim to none.
I didn't say none, because I know theirs people that will make it seems like they keep the law.
Theirs situation were the Lord stop dealing people...Lets go to Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
The reason why homosexuality is defined as an "abomination" is because it defies the First Commandment of not having any other gods before you and worshipping only the One True God.
If our bodies are not sacred temples onto God, then they are defiled temples onto lesser gods (demons).
In the act of sodomy (anal sex) the "sphincter spirit" positions itself in the opening anal contraction muscle of the sphincter muscle to receive its god, the phallus (Baal), as it enters. So when a homosexual (or a heterosexual practicing sodomy, i.e. a man with a woman) engages in sodomy the sphincter demon is actually engaged in the mutual sex act together with the two human participants.
Also, sodomy causes "demonic transference" where the sphincter and phallic spirits from the inserting partner transfer into the receiving partner, which can be legions.
It is this connection with the worship of Baal (the phallic in your temple) that makes sodomy (homosexuality) an abomination.
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Bro.Tan
Aug 30 2008, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Aug 30 2008, 04:28 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 29 2008, 10:33 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 29 2008, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 28 2008, 08:10 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 19 2008, 08:02 AM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:03 PM)

I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I think we can all agree that everyone should repent from their sins...
It sounds to me like Dude and Bro. Tan are in agreement: homosexuals are not born that way....
Dude says that they are born in sin... Bro. Tan do you agree with that?
I agree, we all born in sin, and I'm proud to hear a brother or sister repent.
What I'm hearing is that all people (irrelevant to sexuality) need to repent... So what's being homosexual have to do with it? Maybe you should have just picked up the banner that 'everyone must repent'.
I understand what your saying, sin is sin. One thing I notice that makes a differents, and thats
man lie with mankind or woman lie with woman kind its abomination to the Lord.
Even though, both could get you in the lake of fire, but for some reason the Lord divide the commandments from
the things that are an abomination. To mind understanding, when you keep the commandments, you
walking on a narrow path, so the chances on dealing with these abomination are a little slim to none.
I didn't say none, because I know theirs people that will make it seems like they keep the law.
Theirs situation were the Lord stop dealing people...Lets go to Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
The reason why homosexuality is defined as an "abomination" is because it defies the First Commandment of not having any other gods before you and worshipping only the One True God.
If our bodies are not sacred temples onto God, then they are defiled temples onto lesser gods (demons).
In the act of sodomy (anal sex) the "sphincter spirit" positions itself in the opening anal contraction muscle of the sphincter muscle to receive its god, the phallus (Baal), as it enters. So when a homosexual (or a heterosexual practicing sodomy, i.e. a man with a woman) engages in sodomy the sphincter demon is actually engaged in the mutual sex act together with the two human participants.
Also, sodomy causes "demonic transference" where the sphincter and phallic spirits from the inserting partner transfer into the receiving partner, which can be legions.
It is this connection with the worship of Baal (the phallic in your temple) that makes sodomy (homosexuality) an abomination.
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That was very enlighting. First time hearing it put like that.
endtime
Aug 30 2008, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (HeIsFaithful @ Aug 18 2008, 01:43 AM)

He will accept "sodomites, lesbians, bisexual's ( down-low brothers or sisters), or homosexuals" that have repented
which, of course, we know they do by HIS grace and HIS Spirit.. Bless HIS Holy Name!
So the bottom line is He will not accept them. Except they repent and ask for forgiveness and no longer the unclean thing but a clean vessel for the spirit of God to indwell.
There will be no Homosexual in the kingdom of God.
BFSmith
Aug 30 2008, 10:24 PM
QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 08:03 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM)

Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual?
I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I don't remember who did this study but it was shown that certain man made chemical do have an effect on an unborn child that can cause the Child to be attracted to the opposite sex. I would advise everyone not to put hot food in plastics or even heat up food in plastics. Women are usually more susceptible to the chemicals that leech out into a hot food than men, because these chemical mimics the natural hormones that a woman produces in her body. Stainless steal is the best thing to use or at least glass. In fact for sake of your health do not use microwave oven at all, maybe except to heat up water.
We are doing harm to our body because we have aloud ourselves to be deceived by believing that what mankind have artificially produced is good for us. Satan is the great deceiver and does not limit himself to deceiving the world in spiritual things, but everything that God has made for our benefit, which includes what we eat, the water, ground and air.
Bro.Tan
Aug 31 2008, 04:32 PM
QUOTE (BFSmith @ Aug 30 2008, 10:24 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 08:03 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM)

Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual?
I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I don't remember who did this study but it was shown that certain man made chemical do have an effect on an unborn child that can cause the Child to be attracted to the opposite sex. I would advise everyone not to put hot food in plastics or even heat up food in plastics. Women are usually more susceptible to the chemicals that leech out into a hot food than men, because these chemical mimics the natural hormones that a woman produces in her body. Stainless steal is the best thing to use or at least glass. In fact for sake of your health do not use microwave oven at all, maybe except to heat up water.
We are doing harm to our body because we have aloud ourselves to be deceived by believing that what mankind have artificially produced is good for us. Satan is the great deceiver and does not limit himself to deceiving the world in spiritual things, but everything that God has made for our benefit, which includes what we eat, the water, ground and air.
I haven't heard that one before, tell me more about not useing the microwaves.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Aug 31 2008, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (BFSmith @ Aug 30 2008, 11:24 PM)

QUOTE (Bro.Tan @ Aug 18 2008, 08:03 PM)

QUOTE (AppyGroove @ Aug 18 2008, 05:30 PM)

Bro. Tan-
Do you think a person can be born a homosexual?
I have say No. Because it would seem like God would be so unfair, now God got to kill a homosexual because they can"t help them selfs for what they are, or do. It would go against his purpose. Would be like creating humans
just to kill them. God don"t do that. Lets read Ezekiel ch18:[32] For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
I don't remember who did this study but it was shown that certain man made chemical do have an effect on an unborn child that can cause the Child to be attracted to the opposite sex. I would advise everyone not to put hot food in plastics or even heat up food in plastics. Women are usually more susceptible to the chemicals that leech out into a hot food than men, because these chemical mimics the natural hormones that a woman produces in her body. Stainless steal is the best thing to use or at least glass. In fact for sake of your health do not use microwave oven at all, maybe except to heat up water.
We are doing harm to our body because we have aloud ourselves to be deceived by believing that what mankind have artificially produced is good for us. Satan is the great deceiver and does not limit himself to deceiving the world in spiritual things, but everything that God has made for our benefit, which includes what we eat, the water, ground and air.
I've never heard of this research on chemicals that increases attraction to the opposite sex (heterosexuality). Are you implying the possibility that the reverse attraction towards same sex may also be possible via chemical alterations? Or, are you suggesting that through "chemical adjustments" there may be a possible cure for homosexuality where heterosexual balance is regained? Interesting.
I do know homosexuality develops in a child when the child's sexual identity is not affirmed by the father figure, whether Gay or Lesbian tendencies are the result in both male and female gendered children. It is the rise in divorce rates that is aligned with the rise in children with unaffirmed identities and tending towards homosexuality due to the absence of the father figure in the family.
Subconsciously, a homosexual is merely seeking the “interactive father” he/she never had, while simultaneously engaged in attempting to fill the void of the unaffirmed self, but goes about achieving this through what is called “symbolic confusion”. This is where the young homosexual (16 years+) attempts to achieve this in the wrong way by eroticizes towards the same sex, usually an individual possessing characteristic attributes that are lacking in him; and he subconsciously attempts to ingest these attributes and inherit them. This is why there is such a potent “hunger compulsion” associated within the homosexual that often incrementally leads to high risk sexual behavior and sexual addictions. This process is called the “cannibal compulsion”. It is more obviously demonstrated in pedophiles whose childhood innocence was stolen by sexual abuse, so subconsciously, the pedophile attempts to regain their childhood via orally ingesting a child sexually (oral sex). A cannibal in the, traditional sense, literally eats (anthropophagi) people possessing attributes and characteristic traits that they “admire”, i.e. bravery, adroit dexterity, intrepidness, physical beauty, etc. assuming that they will inherit those qualities. Hence, “cannibal compulsion” in the homosexual subconsciously attempts to do the same thing, to inherit the attributes of the unaffirmed self. This is why the most extreme and rare case of this process has been known to lead to a more diabolic state where cannibalism is actualized as in the case of Jeffery Dahmer, involving necrophilia, of course, being collaboration with the Demonic Nature.
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BFSmith
Aug 31 2008, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Aug 31 2008, 09:11 PM)

I've never heard of this research on chemicals that increases attraction to the opposite sex (heterosexuality). Are you implying the possibility that the reverse attraction towards same sex may also be possible via chemical alterations? Or, are you suggesting that through "chemical adjustments" there may be a possible cure for homosexuality where heterosexual balance is regained? Interesting.
No I am not saying either, I am simply saying that some homosexuals tenancy can be trace to man made chemical that mimics the hormones that the body produces, causing adverse effects. We need to understand the dangers of what man has produced....I have wondered from time to time when will we ever learn that eating foods the way God intended it is the best and only way to secure and improve our health....what God had created in the beginning was very good, so how can man make anything better than what God has made?
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Aug 31 2008, 09:11 PM)

I do know homosexuality develops in a child when the child's sexual identity is not affirmed by the father figure, whether Gay or Lesbian tendencies are the result in both male and female gendered children. It is the rise in divorce rates that is aligned with the rise in children with unaffirmed identities and tending towards homosexuality due to the absence of the father figure in the family.
Subconsciously, a homosexual is merely seeking the “interactive father” he/she never had, while simultaneously engaged in attempting to fill the void of the unaffirmed self, but goes about achieving this through what is called “symbolic confusion”. This is where the young homosexual (16 years+) attempts to achieve this in the wrong way by eroticizes towards the same sex, usually an individual possessing characteristic attributes that are lacking in him; and he subconsciously attempts to ingest these attributes and inherit them. This is why there is such a potent “hunger compulsion” associated within the homosexual that often incrementally leads to high risk sexual behavior and sexual addictions. This process is called the “cannibal compulsion”. It is more obviously demonstrated in pedophiles whose childhood innocence was stolen by sexual abuse, so subconsciously, the pedophile attempts to regain their childhood via orally ingesting a child sexually (oral sex). A cannibal in the, traditional sense, literally eats (anthropophagi) people possessing attributes and characteristic traits that they “admire”, i.e. bravery, adroit dexterity, intrepidness, physical beauty, etc. assuming that they will inherit those qualities. Hence, “cannibal compulsion” in the homosexual subconsciously attempts to do the same thing, to inherit the attributes of the unaffirmed self. This is why the most extreme and rare case of this process has been known to lead to a more diabolic state where cannibalism is actualized as in the case of Jeffery Dahmer, involving necrophilia, of course, being collaboration with the Demonic Nature.
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There are many adults who grew up without a father or a father figure as such but have a normal sexual relationship.
LarryD
Aug 31 2008, 09:29 PM
The sword of truth is turned into a gay blade when these guys preach.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Aug 31 2008, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (BFSmith @ Aug 31 2008, 09:23 PM)

QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Aug 31 2008, 09:11 PM)

I've never heard of this research on chemicals that increases attraction to the opposite sex (heterosexuality). Are you implying the possibility that the reverse attraction towards same sex may also be possible via chemical alterations? Or, are you suggesting that through "chemical adjustments" there may be a possible cure for homosexuality where heterosexual balance is regained? Interesting.
No I am not saying either, I am simply saying that some homosexuals tenancy can be trace to man made chemical that mimics the hormones that the body produces, causing adverse effects. We need to understand the dangers of what man has produced....I have wondered from time to time when will we ever learn that eating foods the way God intended it is the best and only way to secure and improve our health....what God had created in the beginning was very good, so how can man make anything better than what God has made?
There are many adults who grew up without a father or a father figure as such but have a normal sexual relationship.
But you said: "I don't remember who did this study but it was shown that certain man made chemical do have an effect on an unborn child that can cause the Child to be attracted to the opposite sex." You didn't say "same sex". I assume, now, this was an error.
No, though there are many adult men that grew up without a father figure and "appear" to have normal sexual relationships, this does not exempt them from "emasculation". There are many types of emasculation. Most of these men you are speaking about often have been emasculated in their ability to operate fully in the "masculine mode", commonly being the debilitation to "take action" and to "produce" as a major contributor to the family structure and society, this being a masculine mode that is paralyzed. Or, they may resort to drug, alcoholism or other debilitating addictions, being other forms of emasculation where their ability to operate fully in the masculine mode is highly impaired. Or, they may not be able to be a proper "father" to their own children, another form of emasculation that impairs the masculine mode from operating arightly.
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Bro.Tan
Sep 1 2008, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Aug 31 2008, 10:57 PM)
