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Mason
...discern....found on another site..... rolleyes.gif


Chris North wrote:

I don't know whether you have heard of George Green, but he is a former investment banker (Registered Financial Principal with the N.A.S.D.) and a Broker/Dealer, Securities Underwriter, Real Estate Developer, Insurance Broker and Publisher, who was invited to become a member of the 'Power Elite'. However, faced with a moral and ethical dilemma, he turned his back on his former associates and chose to walk an entirely different path in which he has tried to warn the world of the Power Elite's plans for the future.

Anyway, my attention was drawn to a recorded telephone conversation, on July 16th 2008, between George Green and an as yet unidentified web interviewer from the 'Conscious News Network', at: http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/news.htm . If you cannot access it there, it can also be found at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=76...8652774139& q=George+Green+on+the+Economy&ei=jimJSIKTCIamrwLRqYW-Aw

Although it is described as a 'video', as the content is audio only, the streaming is smooth and seam-free. However, knowing how busy you are (and just how little time there is left for the world), I have extracted the main points emphasized by George Green, which I have listed, without comment, as an Appendix to this email. In the event that you require clarification, having listened to this recording a half dozen times, I am familiar with all the 'nuances' and would be happy to oblige.

The bottom line is that Bush is now expected to introduce Martial Law on or before 30th September 2008

- since this date marks the end of the Fiscal Year, when revelations about the true state of the economy - and the questionable practices of the Federal Reserve - are likely to result in riots in the streets and stockbrokers, bankers and financiers throwing themselves off the roofs of their buildings! It is not certain what pretext Bush proposes to use to 'justify' the imposition of Martial Law, but keep an eye on any War Games scheduled to take place in September 2008. My own money is on a Fort Detrick created Flu Pandemic spread primarily by compulsory vaccination but, judging from the deliberate complexity and diversity of 9/11, we must be prepared for multiple false flag events to throw state government and the citizenry off balance.

1. At the beginning of July, the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland, which is owned by the
thirteen [Illuminati] Banking Families under Rothschild, stated that it wanted to audit the US Federal Reserve. Bush reluctantly had to agree to this, but with the proviso that the audit would not be conducted until he has left office. However, when the truth inevitably leaks out on 30th September 2008, clearly the Bank of International Settlements will no longer be prepared to accept the US Dollar.

2. With the realization that the Federal Reserve has been pumping two billion US Dollars a day into the
economy in a forlorn effort to try to keep the US afloat, the US is now construed as 'the poor kid on the block', the 'bankrupt of the world' and nobody is prepared to lend them anything. Foreign governments have said 'We will no longer take your bonds'.

3. This situation has a worldwide repercussion: for example China, which is the biggest US creditor, has
told US importers that they may not pay more then 20% of the total cost of their goods in US Dollars.

4. Also since the beginning of July, Germany has announced that it will no longer accept Euros from eight
of their fellow EU members, the two countries with which they are most concerned being Italy and Spain.

5. The Real Estate market is expected to go down by an additional 50% from its value on 16th August.
Because of the collapse of the Real Estate market, which is expected to lead to at least a further two
million foreclosures within the next 12 months, US Banks are no longer prepared to trust each other, so
inter-bank lending has virtually ceased.

6. This has had a knock-on effect on would-be house purchasers. Like the old days, anyone who now wants to get a mortgage has to put 20% down and to satisfy the lender that their job is secure.

7. You may have seen Bush go on television to tell everyone not to worry as the US Government-sponsored Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) will guarantee the safety of their bank deposits. However, the truth is that the FDIC can barely raise 30 cents on the dollar to cover its potential liabilities; and Bank of America and Wells Fargo are in a similar situation.

8. Banks have already started telling their depositors that they cannot withdraw their own cash.

9. It is universally accepted internationally that the US Dollar is going to collapse by the end of September 2008. Some foreign banks have already started to refuse to take US deposits and, since the Patriot Act, if you do manage to send money to a foreign bank, they are required to report the fact to the USG, who will make you prove how you obtained it and if you cannot do so, they will automatically label you a 'terrorist' or a 'drug dealer' and confiscate it.

10. The Bank of South America is trying to organize its own currency for use within the South American
continent when the US Dollar finally crashes, based on an initial provision of eight billion dollars.

11. As at July 1st, the Japanese stock market was down 12%, the Australian stock market was down 18%, the German stock market was down 22%, the Indian stock market was down 36%; and China's Shanghai Exchange was down 50%.

12. Within the next year, the DOW is expected to fall to between 7500 and 8000.

13. Everyone is now desperately trying to get liquid; and Oil, Gold and Drugs have become the universally accepted world currencies.

14. The only sensible advice is either to change dollars into other currencies, or buy gold and silver (while you still can, because the US is likely to make it illegal to own gold); and stock up on canned food, the price of which is going to go through the roof. Already the major canners have reduced the size of cans by 20% to preserve stock whilst also maximizing their profits.

15. Already 80% of the cost of an apple in the rmarkets is energy costs; and this proportion is likely to rise. We have already started to see the situation where growers, producers and importers have stopped supplying many basic foodstuffs because the price of oil has meant that the cost of getting it to market is more than they can hope to sell it for. The food shortages that have resulted are likely to become even more acute because the USG is talking of introducing price controls. Who will be prepared to continue to supply the market when they are sustaining increasing losses?

16. The falling value of the dollar has created artificial shortages because other countries can now buy US
goods cheaper than they can produce them themselves.

17. Inflation is expected to rise by 35 - 40% by the end of this year in real terms. Gasoline 5 Dollars a Gallon everywhere.

18. Following the collapse of the US Dollar, the Euro is also expected to collapse. In fact, Russia is already negotiating with Germany about a new currency.

19. The Iranian Oil Bourse was set up to trade oil internationally in Euros (see: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/12125 ) but, just when the bourse was ready to go live, the
submarine cables were conveniently cut.

20. You can forget about the NAU's Amero. The Amero is off the table - the Canadian Prime Minister said 'We're not going to support a bankrupt country'; and Mexico is so corrupt that nobody knows where they're coming from.

21. In the future, South America will be one of the safest areas on the planet. They have ample commodities and very little debt. Not everywhere is ideal (in some countries you would need to live in a defended compound). Ecuador is close to becoming self sufficient in food terms.

22. Kissinger and the population reduction crew are trying to get WW3 started before September 30th (end of the US Fiscal Year), then Bush can suspend everything. Israel and the US are working out the details to attack Iran to start WW3. The main reason for the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in Iraq is 'to cull the herd'.

23. Of the US population of 300 million, half are over 50 and most of the kids can't read or write. Sport and entertainment are what has been used to keep everyone going. When (rather than if) Bush calls a National Emergency, if you are over the age of 44 only if you have a use which 'they' want will 'they' be prepared to keep you alive. Moreover, what law will we have which says that we even own our own homes?

24. Everybody must downsize into small self-contained and (as far as possible) self-sufficient communities, People will have to forget their 'wants' and to concentrate solely on what they actually need to survive.

24. In short, we are marching towards our self- imprisonment. I'm ready to get out of harm's way. I
know high ups who will tell me when it's time to leave.


LoisFaith2000
CJ*:


I don't know anything about this source, but can tell you this. The Lord spoke to me about a "chicken in every pot" at the beginning of this year. I finally figured out it was the depression....there is definitely another worse depression coming...the timing of which I am not sure....if we follow the pattern of a chicken in every pot, the collapse would not happen until next year, though this year would be rough...and is as we know!!!

The dollar is going down and most think it will definitely collapse. I anticipate martial law...and have heard rumors that it will hit before the elections to stop the elections....but I have not heard from the Lord on this one...other than last year He told me He was bringing both Bush and Olmert down throwing both countries politics into turmoil until Jesus came to take His rightful place as KING....that is why this election does not surprise me for whoever does get in will be in chaos politically from here forward really.

God is in control and He is shaking it all out....all that is not of the KINGDOM is coming down by the hand of the Almighty Jehovah! Hallelujah! I pray for mercy for we are indeed in perilous times. Wish we were all in a small country community somewhere, but it ain't all over yet. Watching and praying and trusting in our Lord for ALL!
Mason
and futhermore, Bush bought a huge ranch in South America not too long ago...do you remember???



My friend wrote me......bank closings and marshal law Or a major terror attack
first with a bomb or bio wepons etc. I feel like the walls
are closing and closing fast. I am not sure of storing up
food for someone to kill me over it. Have cash on hand and
no place to spend it. or give it all away and sit on a hill
somewhere. Even the
internet may not be avaible to comfort one another soon.
Here Am I
Interesting post. I am aware of most of these points made.

IMO, Martial Law being imposed before the end of the year is highly plausible; Bush would remain in office indefinitely.

Mandatory flu vaccine... scary! sad.gif
Mason
HereAMI, LoisFaith,
Zeetz:
Prayers!
and God has most of you in the USof A for such a time as this....Lord, have mercy!!!

I woke up dancing and praising and feeling so good about the Lord this morning, but it seems as if a heaviness has hit now and UGH! We must remember that Jesus already has the victory and so do we through HIM!

Times are going to be very very bad...I know this and expect some very very bad happening to put everything in a tailspin....we are in that season when the temple was destroyed twice...I am just watching and praying and looking for our Savior.

Most of the world is totally unaware of anything going on at all...so blind and deaf and lost...it makes me want to cry, but there is nothing that I in my own power or resources can do about any of this....BUT our Lord is about to show up and show out in all His Glory!!!! Hallelujah!!!



Have you read this one? I know it's not the most reputable source!

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1122.htm
LoisFaith2000
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more proof of what is going on....

Posted On: Friday, August 01, 2008, 10:32:00 PM EST


Spin Versus Economic Law



Author: Jim Sinclair








Dear Friends,

On and on it goes.

You can spin it every day 24 hours a day, but economic law will not allow the end of the day to be altered. The FT will look at the weakness that has set the stage for such events and the local US media will praise the FDIC?s instant action.

I really don't want to see you in one of those lines because financial TV tells you that all is well and to buy the dollar and lots of shares of those really cheap financials.

International and US media will report this event in diametrically opposed perspectives.

Note that this was first published at 6:56 EDT after all major equity and debt markets closed, leaving an entire weekend to package the spin.

The only problem is all banks that fail following this. The pictures of lines of worried depositors published in the Financial Times is going to mute the publishing of skewed data on any other factors such as inflation and crude, making them all side shows. The system is broken and cannot be put back together again by the application of more of the monetary explosion that created all the bubbles that got us here.

Let?s not forget to thank the manufacturers and distributors of all those OTC derivatives that have killed the financial system and all of us to some degree.

Protect or perish, it is up to you.

Respectfully yours,
Jim



Florida bank closed by FDIC
First Priority Bank becomes the eighth bank failure of the year. Branches will reopen as Sun Trust Bank.
By Ben Rooney, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: August 1, 2008: 7:33 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal regulators in Florida closed First Priority Bank Friday, marking the eighth bank failure of the year.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which was named the receiver of the failed bank, entered into an agreement with Atlanta-based SunTrust Bank (STI, Fortune 500) to assume the insured deposits of First Priority.

All six branches of the Bradenton, Fla.-based bank will reopen on Monday as branches of SunTrust. First Priority depositors will automatically become depositors of SunTrust, the FDIC said.

First Priority had assets of $259 million and total deposits of $227 million, according to the FDIC. That includes $13 million in uninsured deposits held in approximately 840 accounts that potentially exceeded the federal insurance limits.

Account holders with more than the $100,000 insured limit will essentially "become a creditor" of the failed bank, said FDIC spokesman Andrew Gray.

Those accounts will be credited as the FDIC sells more of the failed bank's assets, Gray said.







On a positive note...
Shout with the voice of triumph unto God! It isn't over...it's just beginning! Dreams, relationships,health, ministries, plans that you have thought were long dead in your life are being resurrected. The Lord God is breathing His resurrection power over these things to bring them back!!! Now is the time to prophesy to the dead things in your life.....prophesy.....LIFE THROUGH THE RESURRECTION POWER OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!

AGAIN HE SAID TO ME, PROPHESY TO THESE BONES AND SAY TO THEM, O YOU DRY BONES, HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD.
THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD TO THESE BONES: BEHOLD, I WILL CAUSE BREATH AND SPIRIT TO ENTER YOU, AND YOU SHALL LIVE...
EZ. 37: 4,5

THEN HE SAID TO ME, PROPHESY TO THE BREATH AND SPIRIT, SON OF MAN, AND SAY TO THE BREATH AND SPIRIT, THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD: COME FROM THE FOUR WINDS, O BREATH AND SPIRIT, AND BREATHE UPON THESE SLAIN THAT THEY MAY LIVE.
SO I PROPHESIED AS HE COMMANDED ME, AND THE BREATH AND SPIRIT CAME INTO (THE BONES), AND THEY LIVED AND STOOD UP UPON THEIR FEET, AN EXCEEDINGLY GREAT HOST.
EZ. 37: 9,10
GenesisGirl
To all my cyberspace pals:

I love ya ....and yes we're gonna meet...and we'll be friends for eternity with Jesus!! doesn't that just sound great?

I am telling you I have been at this post for quite a while....I have hardly moved as the Holy Spirit has been here so heavy. I am overwhelmed and not even sure what all is going on, but there is something up in the spirit...I KNOW IT...and we've got the VICTORY!!!

I am gonna have to make myself get up and go to the kitchen to eat...I'm sure starving! anyways, I will be back and catch ya...if not see you sooner in the air! Hallelujah!!







zeetz
We love you too GenesisGirl! And YES, I look forward to the day we all meet also! And Yes, what a wonderful day that will be! Praise the Lord... We do have the Victory In Jesus 1dsz5e4.gif
Go get something to eat now, and be blessed and refreshed!
zeetz


QUOTE (GenesisGirl @ Aug 2 2008, 11:37 AM) *
To all my cyberspace pals:

I love ya ....and yes we're gonna meet...and we'll be friends for eternity with Jesus!! doesn't that just sound great?

I am telling you I have been at this post for quite a while....I have hardly moved as the Holy Spirit has been here so heavy. I am overwhelmed and not even sure what all is going on, but there is something up in the spirit...I KNOW IT...and we've got the VICTORY!!!

I am gonna have to make myself get up and go to the kitchen to eat...I'm sure starving! anyways, I will be back and catch ya...if not see you sooner in the air! Hallelujah!!







Adonaicole
QUOTE
We love you too GenesisGirl! And YES, I look forward to the day we all meet also! And Yes, what a wonderful day that will be! Praise the Lord... We do have the Victory In Jesus


Yes, we love you too GenesisGirl and the artwork that you share. 1dsz5e4.gif I look forward to meeting you and being friends for eternity with Jesus, that will be an awesome day. A day of miracles and great victory.

Victory was a word on my mind this morning. It doesn't matter what evil plans they make, in the end God will display his great power and miracles to those who trust in him. They trust in money which has no real power, it is a vain idol, if you speak to it, will it answer? God always answers, those who pray to him and by his great power he will deliver. I was reading in Isaiah this morning.

QUOTE
Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

9That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.

10They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.

11And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.

12Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.

13Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.


He is the good shepherd, in him will I trust. He causes my heart to sing in the midst of tribulations.
Mason
Martial Law Before Sept. 30th?....more Executive power in SECRET ...

Reported over the UPI's today . REPUBLICAN House members walked out of the meeting of Congress's Intelligence Committee when the following was announced .
George Bush met secretly with cohorts to revise and change the rules of the Intelligence community of the USA . This is already drawing criticism from civil liberty groups and conservative politcal groups across the nation . His actions could harm the autonomy of the CIA .
Never has a president of this country afforded THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH of our US Government so much privilege , and most of what he has done has been done in secret . But when strongly criticized , he takes it very lightly . Who is giving him so much power that criticism falls off his back like water off a duck's back ? THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS ...our shadow government... .
What "they" say and do outweighs anything that happens in CONGRESS .
We know this , because the move to push the North American Union went right on through though highly
criticized by the American people . IT NEVER HAD TO PASS CONGRESSS !! WHY ???
(((( We already have a dictatorship when anything that should have passed through Congress does not have to NOW !!! ))))
George "W" Bush , the most audacious man to ever serve in office . BUT one cannot be this audacious by oneself ; one must have the backing of world power-brokers like the Rothchilds and the Rockefellers !!
HE HAS IT !!!!
martial law is coming ....
IrishRose
You know CJ, you speak the truth! My uncle reads up on all of this every day and my nephew used to be a Navy Seal and he also knows the history and the secret dealings of this present administration. I see it coming. I wish I could convince my husband.. he thinks that it's just a big fantasy land when everyone wants to talk about 'Illuminati", "secret societies", the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds.. but it's so TRUE! It is not unthinkable.. and he just thinks that life will go on as we know it... he's even revelling in the fact that 'hey, gas even went down.. see, you are paranoid'. I think not! I think I am at least aware of what's going on! Lord Help US! I'm with you CJ... he does have the backing and nobody's stopping him!

And it's hard to convince many people who dismiss everything that sounds like a 'conspiracy theory'. Theories also become reality! I'm not getting the vaccine.. no way Jose!
researcher
QUOTE (CJ* @ Aug 2 2008, 02:35 PM) *
Martial Law Before Sept. 30th?....more Executive power in SECRET ...

Reported over the UPI's today . REPUBLICAN House members walked out of the meeting of Congress's Intelligence Committee when the following was announced .
George Bush met secretly with cohorts to revise and change the rules of the Intelligence community of the USA . This is already drawing criticism from civil liberty groups and conservative politcal groups across the nation . His actions could harm the autonomy of the CIA .
Never has a president of this country afforded THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH of our US Government so much privilege , and most of what he has done has been done in secret . But when strongly criticized , he takes it very lightly . Who is giving him so much power that criticism falls off his back like water off a duck's back ? THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS ...our shadow government... .
What "they" say and do outweighs anything that happens in CONGRESS .
We know this , because the move to push the North American Union went right on through though highly
criticized by the American people . IT NEVER HAD TO PASS CONGRESSS !! WHY ???
(((( We already have a dictatorship when anything that should have passed through Congress does not have to NOW !!! ))))
George "W" Bush , the most audacious man to ever serve in office . BUT one cannot be this audacious by oneself ; one must have the backing of world power-brokers like the Rothchilds and the Rockefellers !!
HE HAS IT !!!!
martial law is coming ....


What about the militia's and 93 million gun owners? Lol
Here Am I
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 2 2008, 06:04 PM) *
I'm not getting the vaccine.. no way Jose!


The vaccine will actually be a major catalyst in fomenting this planned, demonic pandemic.

IrishRose
I think I'd take a bullet instead. Will not go for the vaccine. And I'm sure you're right Annie!
Here Am I
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 2 2008, 07:35 PM) *
I think I'd take a bullet instead. Will not go for the vaccine. And I'm sure you're right Annie!


Hi Rose smile.gif

This is a planned genocide; mostly against Bible-believing Christians, Jews and other resisters of the NWO. The evil ones call it population control. God's Word calls it murder.


What Is Coming Through That Needle?

The Problem of Pathogenic Vaccine Contamination

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccin...the_needle.html

IATROGENOCIDE: The Biotechnology, Politics, and Economics of Emerging Pandemics

http://www.tetrahedron.org/index.html
IrishRose
Annie, what sick minds! And this is possibly, probably or GOING to happen? And if we resist?? I guess "off with her head". Yikes... well, it's better than what would be coming after that vaccine, at least it will be over with in a second. I'd just resist it and take my chances, which at this point don't look very good, but hey, I'll see my dad and mom a little earlier than expected wink.gif
Here Am I
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 2 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Annie, what sick minds! And this is possibly, probably or GOING to happen? And if we resist?? I guess "off with her head". Yikes... well, it's better than what would be coming after that vaccine, at least it will be over with in a second. I'd just resist it and take my chances, which at this point don't look very good, but hey, I'll see my dad and mom a little earlier than expected wink.gif



Hi Rose smile.gif

I can foresee those not taking the vaccine willingly being hauled off to camps as resistors, or even be considered terrorists... or forcibly injected. Under martial law, one has no rights.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html
IrishRose
I think I'd be one facing the camp. I mean, aren't they already killing us with the vaccines they have given us all our lives, the fluoride in our water and the pesticides in our food? MSG and other stuff that is doing us no good but killing us? I just dread that day. Bleh.
Here Am I
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 2 2008, 08:21 PM) *
I think I'd be one facing the camp. I mean, aren't they already killing us with the vaccines they have given us all our lives, the fluoride in our water and the pesticides in our food? MSG and other stuff that is doing us no good but killing us? I just dread that day. Bleh.



... and the mercury in our amalgam dental fillings.
End-Time Calling
Walk with Jesus and you will not fall, if you are alive in these coming times you will see many awesome things done in the name of the Lord /JEsus and these will be the light in this world. The spirit of God will not be restless in his people during these times. Look to the scriptures to see that Jesus said the miracles he performed so will his people do and more. In faith there will be the hand of God used in Mighty ways through his people and creation. Get ready not for the scary or bad things about to engulf this earth but to live in times written of in millinia past, get ready to be witnesses and participants in the days that have been studied and awaited for patiently in the heavenly realms for a long time. Soon you will see life as though you were alive in biblical times because you will be. But its the time written about at the end of this age, when Christ comes to earth and starts a new age. The age of the Kingdom of God! Hike up your boots, tie up your jacket cause the clouds are getting ready to carry the king of kings in all his power and fire, with his mighty angels and the saints of the Lamb. WHoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
IrishRose
Amen End Time Calling.. I think it is a matter of having more faith as the time grows closer (and yeah Annie.. those amalgum fillings, I have lots of them, unfortunately!)

I remember a book I read by Corrie Ten Boom when she was in the concentration camps in the 40's and she got a Bible to get through invisibly so she could preach to those in the camp. She was able to tell her story and it is a heartfelt one... she is a miracle and she tells everyone to believe in them.. so never give up! It's coming but the Lord knows His own! Amen.. and Whoooo! smile.gif
signet

that is really interesting that you mention Corrie ten Boom. a couple of months ago
i was impressed on several occasions that there was something in the corner of the
room. i looked but couldn't see what it could be. i prayed and continued to look at
the corner. i could see this in a dream, also.

a few weeks later...just recently, i was making space for a suitcase and started to
clean an area that had old framed pictures and some artwork stacked up. when
i moved the art, there was that book. it isn't mine. i never had that book and
i just don't know how it got into that corner?

i knew that it represents the time we are coming into of greater persecution and
that there would be similar suffering on a greater scale. if indeed a marshal law
is implemented...something that many have considered a possibility...we would
indeed be reading the writing upon the wall. if not there are still possibilities...

and other possibilities will come, however, not by the one of fierce countenance...
but by the prayers of the saints.

blessings,
signet
IrishRose
Wow, signet, that was a word indeed!

Maybe the book was also invisible like the Bible was when she hid it in the camp and they never saw her with it... yes, the time is a coming when there is going to be even greater persecution. I believe that. That's incredible that the book wasn't yours. I am compelled to buy it... last time I read it I borrowed it from the library but then there must be lots of websites with her and her sister's story on it.

Thank you for your blessing.. yes, thing are all coming together!

Love, Rose
Adeline
The Federal Government is presently training clergy on how to control Christians when martial law is declared. (Not if but when) The clergy will be calling for Christians to behave themselves by preaching on Romans 13. "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."Romans 13:1

Please read the whole chapter. If I close my eyes tight enough, I can hear the ministers paraphasing Romans 13 to Christians that are confused and a little bit scared. "Do Not resist or run away for this is not God pleasing." The clergy will be quoting these verses in order that Christains:
1. obey governmental orders
2. relinquish guns
3. that these Christians can be quietly transported to Fema Camps during a state of emergency

Clergy and government are going to be walking hand in hand and it is only going to be a handful of Christians that will be able to see through this ploy. Some Christians will be able to see the calculating actions taken by both government and clergy but not many. Yep, those of us who have been called conspiracy nuts see what is coming.

During such a time as when martial law is declared we will be able to hear the urgency in the voices of those servents of God who shall be misquoting and misrepresenting our Lord. God have mercy on them. May I suggest that we say a prayer for these misguided souls?

Gods Blessings,

Al
signet



being deceived they become deceivers...
forgive them Father and even right now deliver them from this entrapment.
Adeline
QUOTE (signet @ Aug 2 2008, 11:24 PM) *
being deceived they become deceivers...
forgive them Father and even right now deliver them from this entrapment.



AMEN!
FreedomPower
Everyone who believes in this please forgive me, but I simply don't buy into these conspiracy theories. When September comes and nothing happens life will continue and thats it. There have been many recessions before this one and its nothing special, its part of the economic cycle, I just hate to see people put fear into people and get away with it. Even if this were to happen, let us trust the Lord for all we do and let's not worry too much about tomorrow, but on how we can help people today.
Bought&Paid4
QUOTE (FreedomPower @ Aug 2 2008, 10:58 PM) *
Everyone who believes in this please forgive me, but I simply don't buy into these conspiracy theories. When September comes and nothing happens life will continue and thats it. There have been many recessions before this one and its nothing special, its part of the economic cycle, I just hate to see people put fear into people and get away with it. Even if this were to happen, let us trust the Lord for all we do and let's not worry too much about tomorrow, but on how we can help people today.


You make a good point FreedomPower about not jumping to hasty conclusions; however, I've been studying this topic and the Illuminati for over 25 years. There's so much more to it than what has simply been mentioned here. I don't have the time to pull resources/quotes at the moment, b/c it would take days, if not weeks, to find them all. I will say this however, and I say it in Christ's Love..... CJ (and others) make mention of events that have been in the planning for decades now, even centuries....and just you wait....it WILL happen...if not in Sept., then soon enough!!

I hope for you and your family's sake that you are stocking up on food and provisions...as well as protection! IT'S COMING!!! By the way...do you not believe what the BIBLE says??? It's fortold in numerous books by many prophets....Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Daniel, John...just to name a few!! Maybe not specifically "martial Law" per say, but many catastrophes and world-changing events are described....probably which include WW3, pestilences (flu epidemic??), and natural disasters. Anyone who knows anything about how the government operates, knows that Martial Law would be imminent!

Do you not know that our government, as well as other nations, have the technology to actually "create" disastrous weather conditions (i.e. hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.)? Only GOD truly knows what's in store for our future, but I also believe that as a nation, we have defied GOD for too long, and that's not even mentioning the fine line that we're treading with this "land-for-peace" treaty that makes a mockery of GOD ALMIGHTY!! We as a nation have cursed Israel, therefore, we have cursed ourselves!!...and I haven't even started to mention our moral decay!!! I believe we are "overdue" for God's judgement. IMHO, I believe that HE has simply been merciful to this nation for the sake of the saints! JUDGEMENT DAY IS COMING for the USA and the world!!! sad.gif
LORD, please give us the courage, strength, and ambition to spread Your Word & Plan of Salvation through your Son, Jesus Christ, to as many lost souls as possible, and to diligently go about Your work before Your soon return, AMEN.
God Bless!!
Mason
.......denial??????? We can only live in denial for so long
Things are getting interesting fast!




Possible Rapture at Feast of Trumpets Sept. 30
Attack on Iran by USA & Israel
Banks failing
Economy failing
Possible Martial Law by Bush; Dictator Bush
Republicans sees Obama's star rising and don't want an election
Feds going bust
USA on a roll, printing $$$$$ at fast as they can to prop up economy
Revival in the Land.....various places
Obama acting like Antichrist
GM & Ford about to go under
Money value dropping 30%
Housing dropping 40%

These are all happening at the same time!

Things are happening so fast, now; and, you will no longer find yourself ignoring or be in denial about things that have swept under the rug, but you will suddenly have the courage and insight to look squarely at every situation and make decisions that are long overdue. Yes, we will need to detach emotionally and seek our Lord for wisdom and direction, which is abundantly available to us.

Since the first time Bush started his campaign to destroy Israel while speaking his nice words horrible things have happened to the US. As a result, there have been some of the worst storms the US has ever witnessed. I just read an article that every American should read very carefully for terrible things are about to happen there, and the government is getting ready for it http://www.uaff.us:80/deathcamps.htm and the majority of Americans are living in total denial to what is happening or about to happen.

Can it get any worse? Never has there been a society such as this one. Truly, it is now as it was in the days of Noah, and as it was in the days of Sodom! Every kind of outrageous thing is happening continually.

Never has it been like it is now with so much happening so quickly. It is a time of wars and rumors of war. Gasoline and all petroleum products are skyrocketing in price, causing airfares and all forms of transportation to throw our country into a partial paralysis. Banks are failing, home values are decreasing, health care and college tuitions are out of reach for millions of people, and there is no relief in sight. Floods, fires, tornadoes, and other disasters have been breaking previous records. The average American is choking on credit card debt, and yet the people continue to feed their lusts for pleasure. There is gross dishonesty in government at all levels; and integrity and character are becoming non-existent. What is going on? These are all signs that an entire society is being groomed by the powers of hell to accept an answer man that is to rise up and lead them to accept and believe the ultimate lie that will seal them for all eternity.

Is all of this really happening? We can only live in denial for so long, and then reality becomes overwhelming. In California, so many people have lost their homes that parking lots have been converted into sites for the homeless who now live in their cars. There are twelve such large sites in Santa Barbara, California. (1) Others are springing up everywhere. It is all like a bad dream come true.
IrishRose
This is not a conspiracy theory, FreedomPower... really look at the history of the presidents and see all the way down the line where the majority of wealth has come from in this country, for only then you can make up your mind whether you want to believe it or not.. look up Rothchilds, Rockefellers, the Bilderberger Group, and of course, the line of presidents, the Illuminati... it's not fake, it's REAL... and denial will just lead you into blindness. God wants us to be aware.. I totally heed the warnings. Thanks CJ... this may feel like it's not true because nothing REALLY BAD has happened but to a few states in the US (floods, hurricane damages, fires and earthquakes)... but there are other parts of the world too, and to them, they know the reality of it. We sit here fat and happy in the US on our internet and going about our business thinking 'it can't happen to me'.. well, it CAN and it WILL. God has ordained our future.. but we are not supposed to just 'let it happen'. We are to watch and be aware. Otherwise we miss the signs, which happen to be so loud and clear all around us. Those who want to be ostriches can go ahead and stick their heads in the sand, but that doesn't make it go away. It's reality now. We all have to deal with it. Nothing here is meant to be disrespectful or correcting in any way... I just mean to voice my opinion as I have done many months of reading about these issues. God bless you and may He reveal to you His hidden ways.

Rose
Adonaicole
I do not worry about the conspiracy theories. I do believe they are making evil plans, for the bible says they will, I just know that God laughs at their plans, for he has his own plan and he is faithful and true.

Isaiah 54

17No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
IrishRose
Don, I do believe in what you say too... be watchful, but know the Lord is taking care of His own! AMEN! smile.gif

Love you, brother Don! xo Rose
Adonaicole
Yes, watch and listen. I couldn't find the exact verse, but it goes something like this...

Listen, until you hear the sound of rustling in the treetops, then go down for I have gone before you to deliver them into your hands.
signet


from a dream this morning...

a page number 1118, Jeremiah 8:11

"For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of My people slightly,
Saying, 'Peace, Peace!' when there is no peace.

LoisFaith2000
It is over! The collapse is sure! The time of debate is ended! I'm just adding more "chit-chat" to this Martial law topic. Not to bring fear; but, to encourage "thought" & prayer! ....thanking God that He is again making us all aware and not keeping us in denial or in the dark. Just wait on the Lord about this and He will guide us. He is our shepherd!


America will be a nation of refugees. Those who hate shall meet with hatred! Those who mocked shall be a derision! Those who refused to obey shall be punished! Terror shall take hold of a nation that has forsaken the LAW OF THE LORD!



SAINTS, I agree with IrishRose & Adoniacole, He will take care of His own; but, be listening to the Lord and He will be your guide! It may be this....(or it may be that).... find your way to the cities of refuge now! Begin to build your lives in those places. Go to those places that uphold the Laws of the Lord. You will be protected. Build cities that will welcome and provide for survivors who are sent from the Lord. These will be seeking Christ Jesus from true hearts. Establish Godly leaders within the cities of refuge for the transfer will come to a nation within a nation! Fill up the storehouses! Many will be led by the Spirit to these safe places they never knew of.
IrishRose
Amen Loey.. the ostriches will be amazed at what is about to happen. Pray and watch diligently. This is real!
LoisFaith2000
QUOTE
Note: I know this sounds kinda harsh! If it bothers you too much just pm me
and I'll take it off. However, I do believe God is trying to give us a little warning here!
This is just meant for prayer and time to seek the Lord like never before.
No fear....Our Shepherd/He is here.....
.... rolleyes.gif loey






The ostriches and the button pushing get me outta here group will really be angry now......



h, you say; “this is a hard saying! This is all too negative! This is all metaphorical of course! This cannot be!” Yet I say to you that I will reveal the exact measures before they happen, so you will know that I have sent my word into the earth.

A MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE IS GOING TO STRIKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FROM LOS ANGELES TO LAS VEGAS.
THE WATER AND FOOD SUPPLY ON THE WEST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO SUFFER A FATAL BLOW.
PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ARE GOING TO BE FORCED TO THE STREETS, HAVING LOST THEIR HOMES.
HOSPITALS ARE GOING TO OVERFLOW WITH THE DEAD.
REPORTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ARE GOING TO RELEASE THE NEXT WAVE OF DESTRUCTION UPON AMERICA.
MARTIAL LAW WILL BE IMPOSED WITHIN THE NATION, MAKING TRAVEL NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
RIOTS WILL EMERGE EVERYWHERE AND A TIME OF GREAT VIOLENCE WILL ARISE IN THE NATION.
OUTSIDE ENEMY NATIONS WILL SEE THEIR MOMENT AND WILL EXECUTE THEIR PLANS TO TAKE CONTROL OF AMERICA.
INTERNAL WARS FOR CONTROL WILL DEVELOP BETWEEN MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS AND FOREIGN POLICY MAKERS
MAJOR SUPERPOWER NATIONS WILL BREAK THEIR ALLEGIANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES, BRITAIN AND ISRAEL AND WILL COME AGAINST THESE THREE NATIONS WITH GREAT FORCE.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS WILL BE UNLEASHED AROUND THE WORLD, WHILE SEVERAL U.S. CITIES ARE NUKED ON THE SAME DAY.
GREATER STORMS WILL HIT THE EASTERN SEABOARD OF THE U.S. CAUSING MILLIONS TO SEEK SHELTER IN THE MIDWEST.
A GREAT GATHERING OF SAINTS WILL UNITE IN THE MIDWEST AND WILL BE LED BY THE ARMIES OF GOD INTO TRIUMPHANT BATTLE AGAINST THE INVADING FORCES.
BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM AND CHEMICAL WARFARE WILL CAUSE MULTIPLIED MILLIONS TO BECOME SICK AND DIE IMMEDIATELY.
MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE WILL OCCUR WITHIN THE ELDERLY SECTOR OF HUMAN LIFE AS FACLITIES AND SHELTERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR NEEDS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
A SPIRIT OF INSANITY AND CONFUSION WILL HIT THE NATION AS MILLIONS WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO STOP THE VOICES IN THEIR HEAD DUE TO THEIR INABILITY TO HAVE THEIR PHARMACUTICAL DRUGS.
NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD WILL WEEP AND LAMENT THE FALL OF AMERICA AND WILL GO INTO A TIME OF DESPAIR, HAVING NO HELP FOR THEIR CAUSE.
A DARK NIGHT SHALL EMERGE AS ALL OIL SUPPLIES WILL CEASE, LEAVING THE WORLD IN A STATE MUCH LIKE IT WAS IN THE EARLIEST DAYS AFTER THE FALL FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN.
ANIMALS WILL BECOME A GREAT RESOURCE IN THE DAYS AHEAD AS THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY WILL BE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY.
FIRES WILL ERUPT AROUND THE WORLD AND CATACLYSMIC, UPSCALE AND MAJOR DISASTERS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS TIME.

While these things begin to come to fruition, the Lord would say to His people, those who have ears to hear, to get to the place he has already shown you! For in that place safety and shelter shall be found. Make sure you understand that even the United States Government is prepared for these things. They have their bunkers and underground facilities. Be wise and prepare now and for those who have prepared get to where you need to be. The first sign of these times unfolding will be the massive quake in Southern California that will rip through the region from Los Angeles to Las Vegas.

USE EVERY SECOND

WISELY

LET EVERY MINUTE

BE FOR JESUS

NO MORE

THE DIVERSIONS, WINNING

LEADING TO SINNING

BUT NEW BEGINNINGS
IrishRose
Not going to push any buttons. My head is above ground level. laugh.gif wub.gif

May the LORD REVEAL THE TRUTH TO THE LAST DAYS THAT ARE UPON US AND MAY WE ACT WITH DILIGENCE!!!

Amen Loey. Love ya lots! xo Rose
GenesisGirl
YOU HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YOUR DESTINY IN CHRIST. THE ENEMY HAD COME IN LIKE A FLOOD TO KILL THAT DESTINY, BUT GOD CAME IN AND RAISED UP A STANDARD ON YOUR BEHALF....HIS BANNER OF VICTORY AND LOVE OVER YOU!!! AS THE LORD HAS DECREED SO SHALL IT BE...BOTH IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH!!! HALLELUJAH!!! STAND UP AND SHOUT FOR THE LORD HATH DELIVERED YOUR DESTINY OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE ENEMY THIS VERY DAY, AND NOW IT SHALL SPRING FORTH....NOW IS YOUR TIME AND SEASON.....THE LORD IS BRINGING YOU FORTH IN ALL THAT HE HAS PROMISED. SING AND DANCE INTO YOUR PROMISED LAND!!!
EXODUS 23:20
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ThXHJBzq0E
Mason
We are safe in the hands of Jesus period!!! I'm stomping the devil this afternoon...tired of being jerked around by him...and the Lord is cutting him off like a little blade of grass on my behalf...Hallelujah...jump and shout on that one. I have pretty much been praying and praising since Friday night...got the breakthrough and don't even know what it all means...but is is DONE by the Spirit of the Lord....want to jump and sing and shout and YIKES!!!!

THE LORD IS GOOD!!! and MIGHTY IN BATTLE!!!


don't worry about martial law...ambassadors are NOT subject to the laws of their assigned nations...only to those of their homeland....Heavenly Jerusalem is our home and the law there is mercy grace and love!!!!!!!!
IrishRose
AMEN AMEN... shouting with you Genesis Girl and CJ!

Love to all, Rose
End-Time Calling
Same thing here. Today God is breaking chains and moving his men and women that have been in battle for their very lives and destiny are being set free from their bondages and they are preparing for the conflict to come. Raise up your voices in praise to the Lamb of God because we will see his power in the coming times. I have felt him today like this and so have many. Today is a good day in the sake of the Kingdom of God. But let us not forget what hour of time we have been called for. Stand firm, hold fast to your faith and be bold for his name sake. The door has been opened for this season. Now is the hour to respond if you have not. Today take your Stand and have your sins forgiven by JEsus as be welcomed into your true family. Come out of darkness and live in the light of JEsus!
Amen and see some of yall soon.
LoisFaith2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss

Martial law coming.......
Here Am I
QUOTE (Adonaicole @ Aug 3 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Yes, watch and listen. I couldn't find the exact verse, but it goes something like this...

Listen, until you hear the sound of rustling in the treetops, then go down for I have gone before you to deliver them into your hands.



"And let it be, when thou hearest the sound of a going in the tops of the mulberry trees, that then thou shalt bestir thyself: for then shall the LORD go out before thee, to smite the host of the Philistines." -2Samuel 5:24

smile.gif
Mason
QUOTE (CJ* @ Aug 3 2008, 03:17 PM) *
don't worry about martial law...ambassadors are NOT subject to the laws of their assigned nations...only to those of their homeland....Heavenly Jerusalem is our home and the law there is mercy grace and love!!!!!!!!


I have been feeling that something big is about to happen REALLY SOON. Time is running out we are soooooo close to the last particle of sand dropping in the hour glass one can and should be able to feel it. We need to get out of our sinful ways now while we still can.
signet


and when people truly need to be in the house of the Lord for
prayer and truth, encouraged, exhorted, comforted, and edified
the institutional state clergy will sell out God as hirelings.

very important to stay close to God and follow the Holy Spirit
towards fellowship that will sustain our spirit and feed us the Word.

truth will put down confusion, however, denial is used both ways
in the church institution and of those that are double minded.

being deceived they become deceivers...

good news! God knows who you are!
GenesisGirl
STAY HARNESSED TO ME







Arise, My love, and hear My knock. It’s time to arise to a higher perspective. You are about to face the greatest challenges as well as the greatest rewards you have every known. Keep the door of your heart open so that we may dine together and share with one another.





World events are going to rapidly reshape destinies. Fear not the changes that come into your life. I will make you as flexible as a palm tree bending low under strong winds. Stay harnessed to Me and feast upon My Words. Then you will be able to face the commencing end time events with assurance and courage.





"Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.” (Revelation 3:20 NKJ)





“For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you, 'Fear not, I will help you.'” (Isaiah 41:13 KJV)





“Say to those who are fearful-hearted, "Be strong, do not fear! Behold, your God will come with vengeance, With the recompense of God; He will come and save you." (Isaiah 35:4 NKJ)





"And the LORD, He is the one who goes before you. He will be with you, He will not leave you nor forsake you; do not fear nor be dismayed." NKJ Deuteronomy 31:8 NKJ)
Here Am I
BLACKWATER SEEPS INTO DOMESTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT

If that's not enough to make you a little nervous, how about the news [via] that Blackwater is now actively marketing itself to Fortune 500 companies, with the division being run by J. Cofer Black who is also Chairman of Total Intelligence Solutions, a private intelligence gathering group. The same guy who reportedly told an audience at the Special Operations Forces Exhibition in Amman, Jordan, that Blackwater could supply a "brigade-sized force on alert." Wouldn't that come in handy for a president who wanted to declare martial law?

Even if Blackwater isn't really assisting the DEA in drug raids, looking at the numerous scandals over their recklessness in Iraq and the reports on their private duty work in NOLA during Katrina, it's clear they're a dangerous 'security' force. The problem is their mission appears to be to keep the government safe from us.

http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2008/08/blackwater-seep.html
signet


so who protects us from the government?
mrdh
QUOTE (Adonaicole @ Aug 3 2008, 09:14 AM) *
I do not worry about the conspiracy theories. I do believe they are making evil plans, for the bible says they will, I just know that God laughs at their plans, for he has his own plan and he is faithful and true.


Such things need not be conscious conspiracy. Rather, many things are seen as ad hoc necessities.

Nixon had a problem. Under Johnson the government had overspent on guns and butter. Oil was costing a bundle. Nixon saw it as an ad hoc necessity to take us off the international gold standard.

Our politicians know that there's no such thing as an unlimited credit card. Yet they daily make the ad hoc decision to spend more money. They know that putting us in debt to China is not a great idea, but find it necessary.

FDR made the ad hoc decision to confiscate people's gold and in effect tax them about 30% by compensating them at a lower price but valuing the gold at $35. Another ad hoc decision was to bring labor unions into his command economy, which kept many blacks out of work -- which really irritated Eleanor. To FDR it was pragmatic politics to throw blacks to the wolves in order to get labor onto the corporatist ship.

Just so, the decisions now being made are seen by some as ad hoc necessities. They know the dollar is crashing. They have no clue how to prevent it, and so must concentrate on maintaining order, no matter how draconian the tactics. They've lied to the people for so long that they cannot expect a warm welcome when the real situation becomes evident to all.

On the clergy and cooperation with government: This was set up in 2000. With wide public support, faith-based initiatives put government in charge of churches' funds, especially in low-income areas -- right where government might expect the most desperation and hence the most trouble.

The manipulators by and large don't see themselves as evil conspirators. They may act like conspirators, making decisions behind closed doors, but in their own minds they are dedicated public servants protecting us from ourselves. And the public has demanded this of them, insisting that government control the economy, create jobs, keep them from their irresistable urge to use drugs, protect people from having their feelings hurt, etc. ad infinitum. This despite no Constitutional authority to do such things. The people don't care much about the Constitution; why would one expect different of their elected leaders?

Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
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