At this time, (and I reserve the right to change my opinion on this matter), Obama would be my first choice for the Anti-Christ. I am not stating that he is, just that he is fulfilling everything that I expect to see of the A/C.

1. He is young and has charisma unlike any politician that I have ever seen. He is even smoother than Bill Clinton. ( I am a diehard republican, but I do recognize talent we I see it)

2. He has a silver tongue. Not only does he tell people what they want to hear, he appears to have a solution for all the worlds problems.

3. The world loves him. His recent overseas trip showed that he has the approval of the worlds population as well as ours. This is unusual because the world, for the most part, hates the US.

All of these attributes are what I expect to see in the A/C. And no other politician is exhibiting these qualities at this time. I will continue to watch Obama (I would be completely surprised if he does not win the election).

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

Any US president who was anti war in the middle east would be loved in Europe. So it's not really the fact he's Obama, he could be any other name who had a chance to win who wanted out of Iraq.
Not saying your observations are true or false by the way, I really don't know. I can only give the European perspective on some issues.
It's true he reminds me of JFK and/or Martin Luther King and others from around the world in the past. I don't think he's saying anything new really or am I missing something?

P.S. Me personally I am more interested in David Cameron and the Conservative party getting into power over here.

Hello Melangel,

I am not suggesting that Obama is the man (my gut feeling is that the A/C will come from Europe or the Middle East). But one day the A/C will come on the world scene and this person will be exhibiting the qualities that Obama possesses.

That said; Obama could be the man. It doesn’t say anywhere that the A/C will come from Europe or the Middle East. Part of the A/C’s seat of power is a Ten Nation confederacy. This would require representatives from all parts of the world.

You stated: It's true he reminds me of JFK and/or Martin Luther King and others from around the world in the past. I don't think he's saying anything new really or am I missing something?

My response: You are correct. However, I have never seen anyone like him (remember, I am a Republican). I am 57 year old and have watch the American political scene since before I was eligible to vote. This one is different. He seems like he can’t do anything wrong.

He defeated Hilary, which a year ago was a shoe in for the Democratic party. Obama came out of nowhere, which is another attribute I would expect to see from the A/C.

BTW I love the UK. I’ve been to London twice and I loved it.

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

Heya,

Glad you like the UK I am actually a US Citizen too but I've not been there in so long I know little about the political scene except what I see on Fox News hah.
For us here Obama is akin to Bill Clinton who was pretty loved over here believe it or not. Though you might be surprised to hear that in helping my sister pick a candidate I suggested McCain. Mostly because we here in the UK went with a big "change" party ie new labour some years back. Sometimes change happens tooooo fast which is what I think happened here. (not talking of the WMD and Iraq situation) Now we want the Conservative party back who are actually more like your Republican party I think though there are huge differences still. Anyway I don't know if Obama is or isn't. I know there have been some writers here in the UK and Europe who have done Obama Messiah articles but they have been a p*ss take as we call it here. We make fun of ourselves just as much as we do others so I hope no one is offended! Just the way the Brits are
I was in the US when Clinton first came in to power. Remember the feelings of Hope? He came from no where too. That's why I guess I kind of see him as another Clinton. But you know I could be wrong. In my mind it doesn't matter much as I won't worship any man, no not even Orlando Bloom
Maybe I need to see things from the perspective of someone who isn't watching out for these signs hu?
P.S. My bigger fear is if Obama gets in and some looney does something to him and the terrible situation that would arise race-wise in the states

hi~

Mr. Obama is one of many Antichrists, for no one that is of God would have the sun rising in the east at their standard (aka, graven image...). Antichrist is not a singular individual, more-so the spirit of Antichrist is anyone that denies Jesus Christ as God come in the flesh.

please examine the following -> from 1 John 2:18 - 23 (akjv), 18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

also, from 1 John 4:3 (akjv), 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

notice that this spirit existed even in Paul's time.

now concerning Mr. Obama, his allegiance to babylon is not a mystery as Ezekiel warns against worship of the sun rising in the east; from Ezekiel 8:15 - 18 (akjv), 15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. 16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. 17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. 18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

of a truth, the LORD has no love for BAAL worship & is not fooled, even now ~ neither should we.

~levite-7

b hussein oboma is antichrist but he is not THE ANTICHRIST ...remember that daniel tells us that the antichrist becomes strong with a small amount of peopple...that is part of his miracles rise...being president of the US rules that out...plus the bible refers to the antichrist as the assyrian and mentions iraq (mosul/ninevah) as his home city or city of birth...it aint hussein oboma

The following verses are singled out of the Revelation to make this point-

The beast is a Satan powered king [therefore a man],
who has had a terrible head wound, has disappeared,
and will publicly reappear,and amaze the world.

Revelation chapter 13

13v1'....I saw a beast coming out of the sea...'

13v2'. ...dragon gave him his power...'

13V3'... .and I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain,

and his fatal wound was healed.....'

13v7'....authority over every tribe and people. ....... was given him....'

13V12'...and he [beast from earth] makes the earth and those who dwell in it

to worship the first beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life....'

Revelation chapter 17

17v3'. ..and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast,

full of blasphemous names, having 7 heads and 10 horns.....'

17v8'....the beast that you saw was and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss

and to go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth will wonder,

whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,

when they see the beast that he

WAS and IS NOT and WILL COME ....'

17v11'...and the beast that was and is not,

is himself also an eighth [king] and is one of the seven...'

Based on detailed, unique, visible, verifiable prophecy/Revelation fulfillment,

I assert/declare that the Vatican is the great whore of the Revelation,

Therefore I further assert the beast is Roman Catholic.

Can you think of a world famous Roman Catholic
who has had a world famous terrible head wound
under extremely mysterious circumstances?

I predict/prophecy in Jesus name that

John F. Kennedy will publicly reappear, amaze the world, take world power, and is in fact the beast of the Revelation.

This fulfillment will confirm the truth of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

This fulfillment will confirm the truth of Jesus Christ the living Lord & Savior.

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KISSINGER and ....... "666"

Note there are two beasts of Revelation chapter 13.

One from the sea. The other from the land.

One is a Gentile. The other is a Jew.

English is the world's single most widespread language:

A = 1 x 6 = 6

B = 2 X 6 = 12

C = 3 x 6 = 18

D = 4 x 6 = 24

E = 5 X 6 = 30

etc, etc.

K = 66

I = 54

S = 114

S = 114

I = 54

N = 84

G = 42

E = 30

R = 108 Add.

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666

Kissinger is the world's premier 'world statesman.'

Kissinger's name equates to '666' by a simple formula.

Kissinger is Jewish.

So: Re- Vatican, JFK, and KISSINGER - The question becomes-

Would Jesus Christ allow such literal fulfillment to occur coincidentally ?

I say NO, Jesus would not.

Therefore I am compelled to believe that it is prophecy fulfillment in progress.
The confirmation of my contention will be the public and literal reappearance of JFK
who will take world power with Kissinger at his side.

I urge anyone to personally study and heed the entire Revelation.

Early in the Revelation of Jesus Christ, God promises to bless anyone

who reads or hears the Revelation and heeds it.

'...for the time is near'...'

'....and the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast...'

wait and see....

Call on Jesus Read and HEED His Revelation!

Communication/discussion welcome.

I would consider John McCain more of a anti-Christ than Obama. (First, let me say Obama is not a Muslim. Faux news came up with that, and it was later proven false.)
He wants to stay in a war, of which their is no reason to stay in. There were no WMD's, saddam is gone, and it is possible bin laden could have been murderd.
As for woman's rights, erm, same-sex marriage, I think marriage is purely about love. I don't think someone should be allowed to get married to someone in their family, but you get my point.


I do not agree with his stance on abortion, but no president is perfect.


I'm too lazy to write about anything else.

i always have the feeling of unmatured people here in the forum

nearly nobody can interact with one say

if one say a the other cannot discuss this a

it is always my opinion is not a my opinion is b or c or d

and also an unmature thing is to think that your opinion is of any good

the opinion of man must be replaced with the opinion of GOD or is the HOLY SPIRIT that will lead us in all things shizophrenic?

THE a/c must come out of Europe, even out of Rome. The last kingdom in Daniel was Rome which has to be around when Jesus return.

Daniel 7v

7: After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8: I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

15: I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
16: I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
17: These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
19: Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
20: And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21: I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

22: Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Spare us your DEMONIAC RUBBISH! – To every one at large, this is from his own interpretation. What this person is trying to do is VERY DANGEROUS. He wants you to be caught off guard to look where you are not supposed to look! REMEMBER even SATAN quotes scriptures and his ministers transform themselves into messengers of light.

It's not a new idea Zionist. I've heard it before. Considering JFK was not exactly the example of morality I find it somewhat bizarre. I no more believe Elvis will pop out of a spaceship (where some claim he is living now) and save us.

Please read this carefully!

The beast [kingdom] , which you saw, once was [existed before in John’s time] now is not [the beast (kingdom) does not exist anymore when he had the revelation, this is a previous beast before ROME], and will come [but will reappear again] up out of the Abyss [It will be Apollyon who will revive this beast, NOT ROME] and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast [THE KINGDOM], because he once was [he existed], now is not [it does not exist at present at the time of ROME], and yet will come. [he will exist again in the future, this Kingdom] Rev 17:8


“This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills [there has been or will be seven kingdoms given to Satan to rule directly through] on which the woman sits [the harlot]. They [these Kingdoms are kings in them] are also seven kings. Five have fallen [five rulers no longer exist, but existed in the PAST], one is [there is a present ruler at the time ROME], the other has not yet come [The last king remaining, the seventh, the one mentioned above]; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. The beast who once was [a king (KINGDOM) that existed before], and now is not [the beast does not exist at present. If the beast spoken about existed at the time at it was ROME, Then it would not say, is not] then, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction. Rev 17:-9-10

The last beast is made up of many animal parts, that should give some indication of its origin, read Daniel.

If you can not figure out this correctly, then your name is not in the book of life, as simple as that!

I'm guessing this is not said in real seriousness, but just as a way of adding weight to your argument?

Newborns aren't necessarily going to understand everything from cover-to-cover, yet their names are written in the Book of Life, if indeed they are born again.

In Christ,

Mike

or maybe you don't want people to look where they should look.

I didn't hear you squeal about the topics original contention of Obama being the A/c.

I'm waiting for the PUBLIC EVENT of the world amazing reappearance of the final "beast"

who will be JFK, with Kissinger by his side.

No man's disagreement or agreement makes me or breaks me.

But squeal on if you wish.

You probably consider the whole Revelation "somewhat bizarre". Just my WAG.

Many people think the idea that God would have his Son born in a stable and later allow Him to be crucified is "somewhat bizarre".

Rev 17:11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king.

He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

A king is a MAN. The two final "beast" are 2 [two] MEN.

The reign of the final "beast" hasn't occured yet.

The "marking" [without which one cannot buy or sell] has not occured yet.

The following happens when Christ return in power. It ain't happened yet.

Rev 19: 19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together
to make war against the rider on the horse and his army.
20But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf.
With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.
The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
21The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse,
and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

I don't know about you, but Obama strikes me as too nice to be evil incarnate. I think that Jesus would rather us spend the time consumed by arguing about the end times helping others. It's not like nice folks will have to worry about it anyway.

Your interpretation does not hold true based on the time of the writing if the Lord were referring to Nero, Titus or Vespasian as their offspring Domitian was on the throne at that time. The 8th is the same as the 7th, the same who killed the Lord of Glory.

Have you seen McCain's new ad on Obama? LOL. Totally funny. Obama's supposed to be like a messiah in the ad. Then they cut to Charlton Heston as Moses parting the Red sea, lol. Totally funny, lol.



Check it out! LOL!
http://www.johnmccain.com/#tab1

Obama does not fit the complete Biblical description of the little horn. One needs to know and understand the Biblical view before making evaluations.

Stephen,

I was wondering what happened to you. Welcome back.

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

Le's vote Obama as the most liklely to succeed....until the next most likely guy shows up....maybe an American antichrist would go easy on American Christians as we call out of the catacombs....

Would one say he suceeded as antichrist? I should think it is one job that has little hope for a future...maybe he will abdicate....when he sees the truth of it...whoever "he" ultimately is...

Is it not part of our dogma that the antichrist will arise from a place of not being known beforehand...not famous? Seems to me I read that in scripture...

i wonder if it is possible that America will not have an election?

many things can happen between now and then. God knows.

all this could be just the illusion of freedom?

Maybe democracy will fall this fall...

it just might...

Maybe that will be the turning point...no more democracy in the world...a thing I love but it does indicate the greed of man in full view also...along with the reason for working hard to acquire....

there is another currency and it is not of this world...
money cannot buy it, only your life in Christ.

freely given as milk and wine...
foundation and joy.

partake of this abundance
and God alone will feed you and you shall prosper in the rags of life...

for to Him you are adorned in His Son's garment of light and righteousness.

signet

I presume by "the nice folks" you mean Jesus's people.

If my presumption is incorrect, then pray tell who you contend are "the nice folks".

You insinuate that Jesus's people will not be on earth during the reign of the final "beast".

The final "beast" wages war on Jesus's people. [Rev 13 and more]

Temporarily, ignorance can indeed be bliss. But wilful ignorance does not lead to eternal bliss.