It behooves every individuals who rides a fossil-fuel car to pause for a minute and think about the origin of the fuel that powers their car. But do they?

Would you stop using fossil fuel if you realise that your notion of their origins conflicts with scientifically supported view that is fundamental to the exploration, distillation and distribution of petroleum fuels?

We have Petro Canada! We all know that crude oil evolves into various products like diesel, gasolene, and vaseline! The evolution of the car! Now, that's a whole topic in itself!

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Of course not. They'll believe the petroleum is no older than the age of the Earth (6,000 years) so why would that be a motivation or reason to not use it?

Out of all your posts, this is probably the worst.

How does fossil fuel form and how long does it take to form?

Wikipedia.

Seeing that they have found human artifacts inside coal, it does not take too long. We are fueling up on some of our ancestors that died in the flood.

yesterday, somebody on TV said.........prehistoric

Genesis 1;1 starts at the beginning...........there is nothing that is prehistoric.............we have a record of all history,,,,,,,,all the way from the beginning

evolutionists always claim millions of years,,,,,,,,,,that way, nothing that they say can be tested,,,,,,because it always takes millions of years for anything to happen...........

but, why don't we see a monkey turn into a man today?..........as per evolution , evolution is a forever on-going process,,,,,,,,,,but they lie

evolution never happened

C is right,,,,,,,tremendous amounts of plants and animals and men lived,,,,,,,,, and were buried in the Flood,,,,,,,,,,and turned into coal, oil, gas, etc

many of those men were very wicked as per bible-text...........i gas up my tank from their oil every week.

black gold!.........Texas Tea!

Something from where I live

The Grooved Spheres
Over the last few decades, miners in South Africa have been digging up mysterious metal spheres. Origin unknown, these spheres measure approximately an inch or so in diameter, and some are etched with three parallel grooves running around the equator. Two types of spheres have been found: one is composed of a solid bluish metal with flecks of white; the other is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance. The kicker is that the rock in which they where found is Precambrian - and dated to 2.8 billion years old! Who made them and for what purpose is unknown.



Something from before the flood !

It could be an pre-deluvian musket ball judging by the size of it. I'd say it was of a cro-magnum calibre!

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Ooparts: A catalogue of discovery.



1844 - Mechanically manufactured gold thread found in sandstone rock, Rutherford-Mills, England. It was embedded in naked rock, at a depth of about 8 feet. 60m yrs. (The Times, June 22 ) (8).



1851 - The June issue of Scientific American (Vol 7, p.298), reports that a 'metallic vase' had been dynamited out of solid rock on Meeting Hill in Dorchester, Massachusetts. The story said, 'on putting the two parts together it formed a bell-shaped vessel, 4 ½ inches high, 6 ½ inches at the base, 2 ½ inches at the top and about an eighth of an inch in thickness". The body of the vessel resembles zinc in colour, or a composition metal in which there is a considerable portion of silver. The vessel is chased, carved and inlayed exquisitely. (9).



1862 - Human bones found by miners in coal seam, (Estimated 286 mill years old)



1872 - Perforated shark teeth, Suffolk, 2-2.5 m yrs. (The Times, April 1872)



1881 - An 'iron nail' from gold bearing quartzite from Kingoodie, Nr Dundee, 387m yrs. (The Times, Dec 1881).



1885 - A small steel cube (2.64 x 2.64 x 1.85 inches), found in coal from an iron foundry in Austria, The cube had perfectly straight and sharp Four of its sides were smooth and flat while the two remaining sides, opposite each other, were convex. A deep groove ran all the way round. Studied at Salzberg museum. Contained Carbon and Nickel (weight 1.73 Lbs, specific gravity of 7.75). The cube disappeared in 1910, and during the bombings of WW2 the museum's inventory file relating to the time period when the cube was on display (1886-1910) were destroyed. Verification relies on the publications; Nature (London, 1886) and L'Astronomie (Paris, 1887). (9).



1891 - Morrisonville, Illinois, USA. An 8 carrot (alloy), gold chain found embedded in coal by Mrs S. W. Culp. As she undertook to take the chain from the coal, the middle of the chain became loosened while each end remained fastened. (estimated at 260-232 million years old). (9).



1899 - Smithsonian institute initiate a survey of anomalous artefacts that 'appear to come from gravels dating 38-55m yrs from 'Table-top mountain'. Finds include: spear heads 6-8'' long, ladles and handles, notched slate object (possibly for a bow), stone grinding tool, human jaw (33-35 m yrs), Mastadon tooth, ¼ '' perforated, white marble bead, stone axe, Andesite stone mortars (nearest 100miles).

1922 - Fossil of a shoe print with stitching, Nevada, 213-248m yrs.

1938 - Human like footprint found by Prof. Wilbur Boroughs in Kentucky, 250m yrs.



1942 - Iron chain still embedded in sandstone, California. Extant photo but object lost.


1961 - The 'Coso Artefact' - Rock hunters collecting geodes in Olancher, California cut a stone in half to discover a form of mechanical device. Beneath the outer layer of hardened clay, pebbles, and fossil inclusion was a hexagonal layer of an unknown substance softer than agate or jasper. This layer surrounded a three-quarter-inch-wide cylinder made of solid porcelain or ceramic, and in the centre of the cylinder was a 2mm shaft of bright metal. This shaft was magnetic and showed no signs of oxidation. Circling the ceramic cylinder were rings of copper, and these also had not corroded. X-ray photography (right, top), showed that the metallic shaft was corroded at one end, but the other was affixed to a spring or helix of metal. (9).



1968 - Split shale has a shoeprint with Trilobites embedded beneath, (left), from Antelope springs, Utah. 213-248m yrs. (1)


1968 - Semi-ovoid metallic tubes of identical shape but varying size found in Cretaceous chalk. The chalk-bed was exposed in a quarry at St. Jean de Livet, France, and is estimated to be at least 65 million years old. (1)



1969 - Human footprints in Limestone that runs underwater. When excavated, dinosaur footprints were found in the same strata at site. Paluxy River, Texas.



1983 - Human footprints found in rock by Prof. Amanniyazov in Russia. 150m yrs.



1989 - Polished willow plank from N. Jordan valley. Dated at 500,000 years B.P.




South African spheres - Quote from (1) - 'Over the past several decades, South African miners have found hundreds of metallic spheres, at least one of which has three parallel grooves running around its equator. The spheres are of two types - "one of solid bluish metal with white flecks, and another which is a hollow ball filled with a white spongy centre" (Jimison 1982). The sphere in the photo (right), was found in a Precambrian mineral deposit, said to be 2.8 Billion years old. Some of the spheres can be seen in the Museaum at Klerksdorp, South Africa. (1)








The 'Fossilised Hammer - This hammer was displayed in an exhibition of anomalous artefacts in the year 2000. (More information to follow soon).





Note - At present, all these artefacts are classified as 'anomalous' or 'fake'.

However...should just one of these discoveries ever be verified by the scientific establishment, then the current theory of a gradual (and single), human development would no longer apply.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/ooparts.htm

LOL I wonder who decided they were all fake. They are so desperate to "prove" their evolution theory, that this is making them very nervous.

You can rest assure, all of these things are from after Adam and pre-Flood.

Noah's hammer perhaps?

Just the thought of cremating the wicked while driving!

pointus,

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It behooves every individuals who rides a fossil-fuel car to pause for a minute and think about the origin of the fuel that powers their car. But do they?

I don't know if I do or not - I don't keep track of my thoughts.

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Would you stop using fossil fuel if you realise that your notion of their origins conflicts with scientifically supported view that is fundamental to the exploration, distillation and distribution of petroleum fuels?

By golly, I sure would. (And I'd boycott all gas stations, just to be difficult.) Which is why I'm very glad that the "scientifically-supported view that is fundamental to the exploration, distillation, and distribution of petroleum fuels" doesn't conflict with my notion of the origins of fossil fuel.

Obviously, that sphere is a Precambrian bowling ball. It is clear that originally it was a weapon used to take down slow-moving but tasty pre-Ostriches and the like. Later, it evolved into a game, where upright Ostrich leg-bones were arranged in a triangular manner (or as close to a triangle that the Precambrian pre-humans could come), and young pre-human males were trained in the art of Ostrich hunting by aiming for the point of the triangle. Those who couldn't average 150 or better were exiled, and eventually formed the nucleus of the pre-human species known as the "Neandernerd", which quickly died out since no females would have anything to do with them.

Yea, I personally filled up on Cain-Super-Unleaded 93 , yesterday. He filled the tank, because they were really, really huge in those days.

LOL you really made me laugh

There was stuff before the creation we know of.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Gap.. Millions of years?
Gen 1:2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith Jehovah that created the heavens, the God that formed the earth and made it, that established it and created it not a waste, that formed it to be inhabited: I am Jehovah; and there is none else.

Ecc 3:11 He hath made everything beautiful in its time: also he hath set eternity in their heart, yet so that man cannot find out the work that God hath done from the beginning even to the end.

Ecc 8:17 then I beheld all the work of God, that man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because however much a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea moreover, though a wise man think to know it, yet
shall he not be able to find it.

Ecc 3:15 That which is, hath been long ago; and that which is to be, hath long ago been: and God seeketh again that which is passed away.

No one knows what all happened.

I'm sorry to tell you this C, but this information is not correct. These spheres are not dated to 2.8 billion years old. This is again, more creationist misinformation.


See http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html for one discussion.

I have previously posted information on these spheres in this forum. See post #111 in the Dinosaurs and Man thread.
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...1125&st=108.

Below is a couple of excerpts from the talkorigins site.



So, no, the spheres cannot be shown to be artificial, nor can they be shown to have been deposited during the Cambrian or pre-Cambrian period. The FOrbidden Archaeology book which seems to be the major source for creationist claims about these spheres clearly has some credibility problems, as does its author.

Crude is crude.