pointus
Jul 27 2008, 10:42 AM
Why are there no fossils of rabbits in pre-Cambrian and Cambrian rocks?
What are stromatolites?
What is the end-permian extinction event?
What are dinosaurs?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I bet none of you honest Christians can answer these questions. I would like to be proved wrong.References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxLR9hdorI...ature=rec-fresh
Adam Weishaupt
Jul 27 2008, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (pointus @ Jul 27 2008, 10:42 AM)

Why are there no fossils of rabbits in pre-Cambrian and Cambrian rocks?
What are stromatolites?
What is the end-permian extinction event?
What are dinosaurs?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I bet none of you honest Christians can answer these questions.References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxLR9hdorI...ature=rec-freshWhat are stromatolites?
I will have to look that up before answering this, if I can.
What is the end-permian extinction event?
It is a theory.This means that it is not a scientifically established fact.
What are dinosaurs?
Animals that are now extinct. They are another family of animals that is not reptile, mammal, bird, plant nor fish. Why does this matter?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I will have to look that up before answering this, if I can.
Southernguy
Aug 1 2008, 01:55 AM
You can be a Christian and still believe in the Big Bang, Evolution, etc. I think that God triggered the big bang, and let things go their course, interfereing from time to time like a cook stirring a pot of soup to ensure things go right.
Not believing in Evolution or dinosaurs is rather odd, given the massive bulk of irrefutable evidence supporting their existance.
His Glory is a Rainbow
Aug 1 2008, 09:09 AM
Pointus,
Have you read this book? Instead of asking here, in forum without many biologists, why not go directly to a biologist to see what he has to say.....
Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution (Paperback) by Kenneth R. Miller
I DARE you to!
Beware: it may cause you to move into the camp of faith (especially near the end of the book)!
His Glory is a Rainbow
Aug 3 2008, 05:06 PM
Actually, Pointus, you may have been asking the wrong question of us. You asked about whether we knew what cognitive dissonance was, but I think you may have really been wanting to ask whether we have confirmation bias?
[b]Confirmation bias:[/b
]In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias is a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions and avoids information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs. It is a type of cognitive bias and represents an error of inductive inference, or as a form of selection bias toward confirmation of the hypothesis under study or disconfirmation of an alternative hypothesis.
Confirmation bias is of interest in the teaching of critical thinking (non-cognitive dissonance), as the skill is misused if rigorous critical scrutiny is applied only to evidence challenging a preconceived idea but not to evidence supporting it.[1]
I think you (Pointus) may be trying to accuse us of confirmation bias when you, Pointus, may be the one actually guilty of it.
Let me share with you a tidbit from Brother Lawrence regarding this very subject:
"All the comfort I need can be found in the privilege of suffering just because it is His desire that I suffer. In a little time, I will go to God. What comforts me in this life is that I now see my Lord by faith. In seeing Him by faith I actually see so well I sometimes say, "I believe no more! I see!" I can feel what faith teaches; I can sense what faith sees. This of course, works great assurance in me. In that assurance and in that practice of faith, I will live and die with Him. So continue always with God. To be with Him is really your only support and your only comfort during affliction."
We are in a cycle of which came first the chicken or the egg? You say "we have confirmation bias - our faith" that prevents us from proper critical thinking (confirmation bias), and we feel the same about you (you won't go at it by faith - only intellectually- or without faith). But, the thing about faith that Brother Lawrence brings up, though, is that if you seek Him sincerely by faith, you can sense Him now and have the reassurance you are seeking. Logically speaking, if He exists and wants us to approach Him by the method He set out (faith), you'll never be able to prove He does/ does not exist with your intellect because He is sooooooooooooo far above us that He can put scientific blocks that would prevent the most intelligent human from ever doing it (such as the probablity factor in quatum physics which prevents proof of miracles, etc...)? Since by intellect you cannot prove whether He exists, or not, why not go the only possible way to solve your dilemma and sincerely seek Him by faith? If you will, you will know whether He truely exists or not.
1) You say proof/assurance first, then faith (this would make you a robot/slave - forcing you to love Him - no potential for true love)
2) He says faith first, then reassurance (this is Him giving you the freedom to love Him -and the option not to - but the only potential for true love)
option 2 is clearly the better option
raysondawn
Aug 3 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (eliyahuzion @ Jul 27 2008, 12:15 PM)

QUOTE (pointus @ Jul 27 2008, 10:42 AM)

Why are there no fossils of rabbits in pre-Cambrian and Cambrian rocks?
What are stromatolites?
What is the end-permian extinction event?
What are dinosaurs?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I bet none of you honest Christians can answer these questions.References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxLR9hdorI...ature=rec-freshWhat are stromatolites?
I will have to look that up before answering this, if I can.
What is the end-permian extinction event?
It is a theory.This means that it is not a scientifically established fact.
What are dinosaurs?
Animals that are now extinct. They are another family of animals that is not reptile, mammal, bird, plant nor fish. Why does this matter?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I will have to look that up before answering this, if I can.
I think I ate some stomowhatever the other night.
I wasn't around when these creatures (now called dinosauers) ate the rabbits probably with the bones.
I would like to know what a stromatolite is.
Do tell!
gregg
Aug 6 2008, 01:21 PM
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Why are there no fossils of rabbits in pre-Cambrian and Cambrian rocks?
What is oil? Have you ever seen how rabbits decompose? The same thing with all of the dino's and every other living organism of the time. You have fossils because the normal decaying process is stopped somehow, either by freezing or some other solidifying event.
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What are dinosaurs?
They might be the biblical behemoth and leviathan. I believe all of the animals in the biblical times were so much larger than they are now but through the process of supply and demand, the foodstuff that keeps the animals alive has diminished to the point of making the herds so small. And that goes back to the supply of oil in the earth.
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What is cognitive dissonance?
Cognitive dissonance is the stress caused by holding two opposing beliefs and either not modifying one or discarding one. Now confirmation bias is the result of the prevention of the dissonance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceQUOTE
What are stromatolites?
I believe all life on earth evolved from stromatolites. Go to the moon of Jupiter and possibly Jupiter itself and you may find the surface dotted with stromatolites. Stromatolites gave the early-earth atmosphere oxygen which caused the stomatolite to evolve into eukaryotic organisms [because of what oxygen does].
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What is the end-permian extinction event?
It could have been the sun exploding.
Belinda
Aug 9 2008, 04:13 PM
QUOTE (pointus @ Jul 27 2008, 11:42 AM)

Why are there no fossils of rabbits in pre-Cambrian and Cambrian rocks?
What are stromatolites?
What is the end-permian extinction event?
What are dinosaurs?
What is cognitive dissonance?
I bet none of you honest Christians can answer these questions. I would like to be proved wrong.References:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX_WH1bq5HQ...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA_UFImmulY...feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxLR9hdorI...ature=rec-freshPontius,
i like you. you ask provocative questions, that makes people think. that's good. where do you get all of it?
regarding creation, find dr dino's website on creation and evolution. i think it is www.drdino.com. something to that extend. i believe in a very literal six day creation and that dinosaurs lived with man on the earth before the flood. if you get kent hovind's (dr dino) dvd's, it will explain everything you might need to know regarding "ancient fossils" and all the rest.
stay out of trouble.
blessings.