QUOTE (C @ Jul 28 2008, 09:48 AM)

QUOTE (Simple @ Jul 28 2008, 01:58 AM)

Thanks C, WW, DM and everyone for your input.
WW, you say
Blood = Life = Spirit
and Flesh = Carnal Nature = Death
Is it a metaphor for all OT Israel,
eating the flesh of the law withouth the blood of the law?
Having a Law unto death?
Simple, in the OT it was meant as a
literal law (They "drew" the picture for us, by doing something and now we have to look and see what it means in the spirit )
In the NT it has the spiritual meaning. Its always first the literal. (OT)............... and then the spiritual. (NT)
But in a way you are right as well , because Jesus did tell them that they are not living the spirit , but only the letter. Jesus also came to show us the way of the spirit.Like when He said its not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but what goes out of a man (coming from the heart) They only saw the letter of the Law and did not "get" the real meaning.
C
Interesting Marcus...
C, l would say that the things in the NT have a flavor all their own. I think the OT is a tool for understanding but every point needn't be interpreted. If we try to interpret that way then we're right back to the letter again....trying to systematically figure it out.
I had a Jewish man teach me to make bread. He doesn't follow the recipes. I used the idea to make a spiritual point with him. His breads have their own special signature. Even though he doesn't follow the recipe he still uses the basic components. This can be done when you understand the science of bread making. Scripture interpretation has basic components but doesn't always follow exact inderstanding in the natural.
I've seen a piece here and a piece there. God does it with pictures to give us understanding. You may have part of a story have spiritual meaning and the other part nothing but support girders. We have to know when to not try and force something to fit... or create something with our imaginations. I'm reminded of it daily...
But l guess it goes back to having two or more witness to the point. By that l mean to have other things that support the interpretation notion. Shekel gives many examples in his work..more than one thing confirms his conclusions.
If l have a dream or vision and try to interpret it but have no supporting evidence l'm spinning my wheels. The Lord will bring the supporting evidence in time through situations or others. To ignore these things is the same as ignoring the spiritual interpretation of unfulfilled mysteries. God speaks to individuals and confirms it for good reasons.
God can begin speaking through a man and give him great revelation knowledge about scripture. But he keeps hitting up against a wall. People aren't recieving it... WHY? Is it the enemy? Yes..probably a lot of times. But God allows it. Why? Because when you ignore the work that God does through others and think you have the market on understanding then you will receive what you dole out.
I'm not saying this about certain people so don't take it personally because this applies to many many people. I've seen it clear as day. God comes to each where they're at and if a thing is confirmed again and again through scripture first and secondly through the ordinary gifting in people and you refuse to acknowledge it God will allow the same thing to happen to you.
Now this happens on all kinds of levels in life. Who's your friend? Do you patronize in ministry or do you form strong personal bonds. I'm not talking about the forum but your local ministries. I believe that nothing turns God off more than this. Then we go around doing the work but God's spirit isn't there. God raises up our personal ministries to fruit level when we do unto others as we want done to us.
Sorry Marcus...didn't mean to distract...it just seemed to raise to the surface.