When the Holy Spirit began to open my eyes to what is really going on in the world...how Satan is controlling the world scene, the first thing I noticed was corporate logos and symbolism attached to every religion, political institution, financial institution, government, etc. ... created by Satan's Illuminati... controlled by the Jesuit General and his henchmen.

Look closely at this flow chart:

THE JESUIT GENERAL IS IN CONTROL OF THE ILLUMINATI
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/kolvenbach.htm

ILLUMINATI CORPORATE LOGOS -- Excellent video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=844493245933202727




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thank you for sharing that...i sent it to 3 people.

Annie...God is in control.

He's allowing this for his own purposes which will prevail.

Prov 19:21 "Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the Lord's purpose that prevails."

Eph 1:11 "...according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will."

Prov 16:33 "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD."

Acts 2:23 "This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross."

Job 23:13 "But he stands alone, and who can oppose him? He does whatever he pleases."

Prov 16:4 "The LORD works out everything for his own ends-- even the wicked for a day of disaster."

(there is some satire in the pic )


Here's a thought-

If it's God's will that Obama be the next president - would you be willing to vote for Obama...

shew!

Around 1902, a German emperor had some roads built between Turkey (ANCIENT ASIA MINOR) and Germany. While so doing, the workers discovered an ancient temple in PERGAMUM. This temple is called "THE THRONE OF SATAN".

The temple ended up in BERLIN.

... in Germany...

I can't help it, but when I think of Germany, I think of NAZIS.

IN ASIA is in French

"EN ASIE," which rings like "EN NAZI" (IN NAZI)

THe New World Order will be a NAZI 4th Reich. Nazism is not dead.

So here we have the THRONE OF SATAN, which was found "EN NAZI"; I mean "EN ASIE" (IN ASIA)!!

Since 1999, BERLIN has become THE SEAT of the German government.

"WHERE SATAN'S THRONE IS" (REVELATION 2:12) !!!

http://www.formerthings.com/throneofsatan.htm

I was doing a word/etymology study a couple of months ago on BERG/BURG
from a dream that I had about Hindenberg explosion and Lindberg in same
dream. So I felt impressed to see the "berg/perga" connection and this is
what I was led to with the same scripture you quoted, Revelation 2:12,13


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pergamon_Museum

hi~

lo, beware of hexagrams, or anything with six points, six sides & six intersections.

indeed, it's their way of communicating their allegiance on their assumption that the masses could not grasp; of course, use a bit of geometry to connect one line to another & what's hidden will no longer be hidden. the kings, merchants, and occultists may be clever.......but what is cleverness when matched against the Holy Ghost? it's unfortunate this forum is set for uploading tiny, micro images else i would rummage through the archives & pull up some goodies to share.

these days, i don't pay attention to babylon's mystery cults with the same zeal that i used to; after awhile, it becomes predictable & learning what they do is good until one learns what goes on at the top levels.......then that is good enough to fully walk away from & cling to the Word. since the devil's children like babylon - they can have it.

~levite-7

God has placed Satan in authority as the God of this world, and through him, (just as God has set up thrones in days of old), to bring about His perfect final judgment..

"...the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not" -2Corinthians 4:4

"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me." Matthew 4:9 (It was Satan's to give)

All religious, political, governmental, educational and corporate systems have been infiltrated by Satan's emissaries of darkness on earth. Their goal is to prepare a One World Order and a One World Religion which is required for a successfull enthronement of their god, Lucifer / Satan as ruler of Earth. " Novus Ordo Seclorum" actually implies a New World Order without God:

Annuit Coeptis= Announcing Conception
Novus Ordo Seclorum= New Order (without God)
Ordo ab chao=Order out of the coming Chaos

By exposing Satan's evil design in corporate and government logos and symbols, we can reveal the collusion involved within the world's institutions, and reveal that their purpose of unity is in accomplishing their final goal.

“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.” -Psalm 2:1-5


PYRAMID SYMBOLISM AND ITS USE IN CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENT LOGOS
















http://www.samliquidation.com/section_16.htm

I agree, Levite-7. But who will tell them. Once it is made known to us, we must broadcast it to our fellow brothers and sisters so they would not be deceived. Those evil ones in power would like for us to keep quiet and not disclose their secret agenda.

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24

I think I'd have to pass on that one.

And they will cry peace, peace.

wow, the logo for this site has a pyramid in it! just wondering if it is something else? anyone?

That is just a site icon. Depending on the forum software being used it will put its logo on the tab as a default site icon (invisionpower.com icon) the mods may or may not have the rights to change the icon depending on the host. There may or may not be symbols hidden in our corporate logos and then sometimes it just by chance. Being a graphic designer I can see why some would have a geometrical shape in them it is just a play up on the name.

That is just a site icon. Depending on the forum software being used it will put its logo on the tab as a default site icon (invisionpower.com icon) the mods may or may not have the rights to change the icon depending on the host. There may or may not be symbols hidden in our corporate logos and then sometimes it just by chance. Being a graphic designer I can see why some would have a geometrical shape in them it is just a play up on the name.
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Thank you so much for your help in understanding.

God bless

No problem! Just like in anything if we look hard enough we will see what we want to see..

"666" CONDITIONING - THE "BEAST" MENTALITY



666 IS IN THE UK COCA-COLA ZERO LOGO: Look closely at the 'O' in the word 'ZERO'.



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Several company logos also incorporate the image of a 666 either distorted or twisted (hidden in plain sight).

The home of Vintage and Classic Motorcycles.....
1973 Kawasaki H1D 666 Spec



1974 IHC Farmall 666 Gas



In Pythagorean numerology there are three letters that have a value of six: FOX
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Disguised 666 - A disguised interlocked trio of sixes, symbolic of the anti-christ. It is celtic, also symbolizes the triple goddess of Wicca (three interlocked vesica pisces together). Commonly used in Catholic liturgical iconography, and has recently found it's way into the logo of the New King James Bible. Isn't Satan clever? See this: Look at ALL the interesting symbols - http://members.tripod.com/~RU_BOLD/occult_practices.html

Athough I agree that many symbols have hidden meanings, we can not assume that those having or wearing the symbols are involved in conspiracies.....

Many wear, the Star of David, to show support of the Jewish people, which has six sides. If we look to find the devil in everything....we will find him.

That is not to say, we are not being "brain washed" to by degrees in the media. The good stand and walk among the evil in this world. The New Age has used God's symbols to distort the meanings, does that mean we must not ever use them.

Years ago I saw people go "nuts" on symbols. It became "us" and "them".....if you didn't agree you were one of them and "blacklisted"......

One can look for the demons sitting on the rocks.....or under the rocks.....which can keep you pretty busy and take your eyes off the Lord.....and walk in fear.

God Bless <><

The “Star of David” -is it Pagan?



What is the origin of the “Star of David”? Was it really the ancient

symbol on David’s shield? Did it originate with king Solomon?

What is the meaning of two interlaced triangles, one pointed upward

and one pointed down? Where did this ancient symbol REALLY

originate? Why does this symbol figure so prominently in the modern

nation of Israel, today? You may be totally shocked at the explosive,

provocative answers to these questions!


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Rel...ar_of_david.htm

DESIGNER MARKS OF THE BEAST

http://watch.pair.com/stuph2.html

Good morning Annie,

I thought about you earlier when I heard this scripture being read:

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

You use your power and because you do...."rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."

I wouldn't be aware of many things if you had not brought them up on this forum.

Dear Judi,

Your kind words uplift my spirit.

May your day be blessed!

ILLUMINATI SYMBOLS AND CLUES; LEVEL OF INFILTRATION

by: Svali
Q: 'Yes, tell me more about that (german connection, masonic temple, the 'institute' and the Baal statue in Canada, please [see previous article]). What are some of the Illuminati trademarks, symbols and clues that are placed throughout society as their signals (other than the pyramid and all-seeing-eye of Horus), intentionally or unintentionally. Does the Illuminati get careless?

A: To completely answer these questions, you would need my whole biography. I had thought once about writing it, but I doubt many would read it (seriously, this isn't false modesty) and also I really don't believe people will do anything about the Illuminati even if they know. Sorry for the cynicism, but it is based on a lifetime of experience.

The Illuminists don't care who prints this stuff, or if they are "exposed" because they are counting on the majority not believing it, having done a pretty good job with a media blitz campaign (seen any articles in Newsweek or Time lately that addresses this other than as a laughable conspiracy theory? Guess who owns Time-Warner?).

I have heard them laughing about this very thing in leadership meetings five years ago, and I doubt their attitude has changed much since then. If people DID believe this, if action were able to be taken, then I would be very surprised and quite happy.

I'll give you an example. Two years ago, I tried to find a publisher for my book on how the Illuminati program people. I wanted it available for therapists who work with survivors. I couldn't find anyone willing to consider it; they told me it was much too controversial, and "there is no market for this among the general public". Sad, but true.

At the same time, I do believe that God is in control of world history. I have exposed them, and self published my book for free on the web, to let those who work with survivors realize what they have been through. It's hard to help people leaving a group without understanding the traumas both emotional and physical that they have endured.

Okay, now to your questions.

1. The Bruderheist is the ruling council of Germany. It meets in the black forest region, which is considered the center of the earth, and a vortex for psychical/spiritual energy. They are some of the most vicious people I have ever known in my life, and make the Nazis (who they encouraged) look like fun people. They are still there, manipulating people, running banks, and channeling their dirty money to Brussels, Switzerland, and Cairo, Egypt.

2. Canada has a very large Illuminati and Templar Knight community (they are hand in glove groups) that worship ancient deities. The gold or bronze statue of Baal is in a holy grove on a large private estate between Quebec and Montreal. Since I was only 12 years old when I went there, the details aren't quite as clear. But the ceremonies there were full of people in white gowns, lots of flowers and fruits and votive offerings, singing, then the final sacrifice in the arms of the statue.

3. Illuminati trademarks: these are the most cautionary people on earth. They try to leave absolutely NO tracks. Most of the symbology can be seen on T.V. or movies, and include: the concept of a military government ruling. These people are very, very militaristic.

The Phoenix: this is one of their highest military and spiritual symbols. If you see a German eagle, too, this is a huge sign. Certain companies will use a phoenix as their logo, especially red on black, or the reverse, this is a huge sign, since the Illuminati use many resuscitation rituals in their training, where the person is brought into a death, or near death state, then "resuscitated" and told that Baal, or some other entity, "gave them life" and they owe their new life to him and the group. Thus, the phoenix is a huge trigger and symbol.

Butterflies and rainbow signs are big triggers for people who have gone through the Monarch programming (yes, the Illuminists invented Monarch programming with the CIA). Certain types of jewelry are used as triggers. If a person goes online, and plays certain role games (like Ultima) the games are FULL of trigger symbols, such as gem stones. I don't play them but my husband does, and I have told him what the symbols mean. He thinks it's funny since they don't bother him (he isn't Illuminati).

A tiara, or crown with 13 gems, with a diamond in the center, is a symbol of the coming reign of the "chosen one".

Star of David: believe it or not, one of the highest Illuminati religious symbols is a star of David with a circle around it. Called "the great seal of Solomon" it is used at the highest ceremonies to invoke the demonic.

Earth, water, and fire: these three are used in a lot of ceremonies. Check out how many Saturday a.m. cartoons use this concept. You'd be amazed. In fact, "The Fifth Element" movie was based on it.

Greek and Roman mythology and symbols: The Illuminati use a tremendous amount of Greek and Roman mythology in their programming, and most people will have internal structures with a roman or greek temple inside. Lightening bolts, and any symbols from this time will also trigger those with this inside. For more, just pick up any recent Time magazine. Most of the ads are filled with Illuminati symbology. A picture of a head with a computer inside is another big one, symbolizes delta programming, for example.

Q: Take the lead and tell me about issues you may not have covered in your articles or in this interview.... perhaps some issues I have missed in regards to the New World Order/ global government and such...

A: 1. These people are pedophiliacs, they abuse and torture small children and teach them under duress to become perpetrators themselves from earliest infancy. This alone means they should be stopped.

They run the porn industry, along with other groups such as the Mafia. They make enormous amounts of money from drug smuggling, gun running, and human slavery (oh, yes, the buying and selling of human beings is alive and well in the 21st century).

They are involved in evil and money making in the extreme. If a profit is being made off of human suffering, you can trace the chain back somewhere to these people.

2. They have money and lawyers that could blast anyone confronting them out of the water.

3. They have infiltrated our government, and the governments of every country in the world, and well as the judicial and legal systems.

4. The media as well.

5. They run our financial institutions.

6. They are ruthless, ambitious, and will not stop at killing those they oppose. They invented MK-Ultra with the help of the CIA. Still want to take them on? Sorry, just letting you know what they are like.

7. They are working towards bringing in a new leader, who will usher in a Luciferian reign of joy, prosperity, and rewards to the faithful. Almost an Elyssian type paradise. Of course, the brutality would continue, and those who oppose his reign are to be hunted down and converted or destroyed, but the followers will be so happy and content that they believe these holdouts will want to come over to their side. Sounds unbelievable, but true.

Also, people will have new jobs, and leadership positions in this new order, since the Illuminati believe that their children are the brightest and best (remember that lifetime of training and teaching?) and will be the intellectual elite who will rule over the unintelligent, or "less fit". These people really, truly believe this, and almost worship Plato's ideal Republic as their blue print for the new order.

Now, the other side of the picture.
1. They are arrogant, and this could be their downfall. They view the common man as "sheep" with no intelligence. They are full of pride, believe they are invulnerable (see above) and that any press about them is the equivalent of a gnat to be swatted. Arrogant people make mistakes, and they are becoming more blatant and open in recent years.

2. They believe they can overcome God, which is a huge mistake. God can stay the hand of history, and has so far, in the hope that more from this group will get out, because He is merciful.

3. Most of them are wounded, abused victims, who don't realize that it is possible to leave the group. There is a lot of discontent in the ranks, and there would be a mass exodus if the members believed it were really possible to get out (and live). Many of the trainers I knew (I know, wicked, torturing pedophiles) were NOT happy with what they did. They would whisper quietly, or give a look, to show that they disagreed with what they had to do. They would resignedly do their jobs, in the hope of advancement.

Know what one of the biggest carrots offered to those who advance up in the group is? That you don't have to hurt people anymore, and that you can't be abused (it's true: only those higher than you in the group can abuse you, so everyone wants to move up, where the pool of candidates becomes smaller). Of course, people can choose to abuse anyone beneath them, and that motivates some (but not all!) to move up.

4. As more survivors leave, therapists and churches and support people are becoming more aware of the sophisticated mind control techniques used to control members. They are learning to undo it.

5. Prayer can overcome the greatest evil, and my greatest hope is that those I once knew in this group, including the heads and those who hurt me at times, would get out. That they could know that, yes, it is truly possible to leave.

Q: I have seen Clinton do this hand sign on a few occasions, and now Prince William as well. Any hidden meaning?

A: That is an old, well known greeting of one satanist to another. Usually, the Illuminists are a lot more subtle and don't do that publicly. (They are becoming more blatant and open in recent years)


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THE PHOENIX

The Phoenix, and German eagle, is one of the Illuminati's highest military and spiritual symbols. Companies will use a phoenix as their logo; red on black, or the reverse black on red.

Phoenix symbolism meaning:
Illuminati use many resuscitation rituals in their training, where the victim is brought close to death and then 'resuscitated' and told that Baal, or some other entity 'gave them life' and that they now owe their life to him and the group. Thus, the phoenix is a huge trigger symbol.


With 13 arrows, 13 leaves, and 13 stripes on the shield, the number 13 symbolizing the Luciferian revolt.
And 33 feathers on each of the wings, symbolizing the 33 degrees of freemasonry.
The flower of life type symbol on top contains a hexagram.


At the origin, a PHOENIX was used for the seal instead of the eagle. The PHOENIX amongst other things symbolizes rebirth.
Because the PHOENIX stands for being destroyed in flames and then rising from the ashes, for the Illuminati it symbolizes Lucifer.

PHOENIX BIRD WAS ORIGINALLY AMERICA'S SYMBOL ON OUR GREAT SEAL:
Former Illuminist Witch, Doc Marquis, reveals a most interesting, and little known, fact about our American Eagle depicted on our Great Seal. He states that, originally, the American Eagle was not an Eagle, but the Phoenix Bird! Our Forefathers, who were either Masons or Rosicrucians, envisioned that the Phoenix Bird was to be our national symbol, not the America Eagle! [Secrets of the Illuminati, p. 11; see also the Satanic book of symbols, Magic Symbols , p. 140-3]


PHOENIX BIRD SHOWN TO BE LUCIFER

"The Phoenix ... is believed to be a divine bird going back to Egypt ... This Phoenix destroys itself in flames and then rises from the ashes. Most occultists believe that the Phoenix is a symbol of Lucifer who was cast down in flames and who they think will one day rise triumphant. This, of course, also relates to the rising of Hiram Abiff, the Masonic 'christ'." [Dr. C. Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated , p. 123]

Barbara Walker, a radical feminist. She says that the Egyptians and Phoenicians believed that the Phoenix Bird was the representation of a god who "rose to heaven in the form of a morning star, like Lucifer, after his fire-immolation of death and rebirth ..." [Walker, Now Is The Dawning ", p. 281]

PHOENIX BIRD ONE OF MAJOR SYMBOLS OF THE ILLUMINATI

The Phoenix Bird is one of the foremost symbols of the Illuminati, according to Doc Marquis. Therefore, since Hillary Clinton is wearing this symbol, we can know conclusively that she is an Illuminist. Further, since this Illuminist lapel pin was worn by two people very close to President Bill Clinton, we can know for certain that he is an Illuminist, too. [This lapel pin was seen being worn by: Donna Shalala, Secretary of Health and Human Services and Bettie Currie, Clinton's Personal Secretary, see U.S. News & World Report, 2/9/98].
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1354.cfm

Finally, this lapel pin was seen being worn by Conservative Republican Jeanne Kirkpatrick! This fact demonstrates conclusively that both Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, are equally committed to the New World Order! Now you are deceived no longer and you know the truth of what is really going on in Washington, D.C. President Clinton will not get removed from office because that is most definitely not the plan, as the Republican leadership is just as committed to the New World Order as is Clinton. You can read full details in NEWS1248, "Impeachment Process Is A Tool To Topple Our Government".

Another Masonic author, revealed that the Sun God, who created all other gods, was symbolized by the Phoenix. [Joseph Fort Newton, The Builders: A Story and Study of Masonry, The Torch Press, 1914, p. 13-14; also J.S.M. Ward, The Hung Society or the Society of Heaven and Earth , The Baskerville, Press, Ltd., 1925, p. 44 and 102]

PHOENIX BIRD DEPICTS OCCULTIC TEACHING OF BEING BORN AGAIN

But, now let us return to the occultic story of the Phoenix Bird. "All symbols have their origin in something tangible, and the Phoenix is one sign of the secret orders of the ancient world, and of the initiate of those orders, for it was common to refer to one who had been accepted into the temples as a man twice-born, or re-born. Wisdom confers a new life, and those who become wise are born again ." [Hall, Ibid.; Emphasis added] Isn't this amazing? The Phoenix Bird legend now has a fourth Messianic type connotation; it represents a man being "born again ". Always remember that most pagan groups, especially the most sophisticated ones, have deliberately created the myth that their members are "born again". Even Roman Catholicism teaches that its members become born again, usually at Baptism.

COMPANIES WILL USE A PHOENIX AS THEIR LOGO, ESPECIALLY RED ON BLACK... OR BLACK ON RED.




PHOENIX TO RISE FROM ASHES ON MARS
http://www.wallstreetweather.net/2008/05/p...es-on-mars.html




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Rome hosts Vatican-Muslim summit

4 Nov 08

The Vatican says it wants to open a "new chapter" in relations with Islam
Muslim and Vatican officials are holding historic talks in Rome to establish a better inter-faith dialogue and defuse any future tensions.

Catholic-Muslim ties soured after Pope Benedict XVI's speech in 2006, in which he linked Muslims with past violence.

The speech provoked Muslim outrage and triggered violent protests.

It also prompted leading Muslim scholars to launch an appeal to the Pope for greater theological dialogue, called the Common Word.

The manifesto now has more than 250 signatories.

Muslim leaders say protests against the Pope's speech - and also the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper in 2005 - might have been avoided if Christian and Muslim leaders had spoken out together against such violence.

'New chapter'

The three-day talks in Rome are being attended by nearly 60 religious leaders and scholars from each side.

The Muslim delegation is being led by Grand Mufti of Bosnia Mustafa Ceric, while Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran heads the Vatican officials.

The meeting opens " a new chapter in the long history" of the dialogue between the two faiths, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran told France's La Croix newspaper on the eve of the talks.

The first two days will be taken up by discussions on God's love and loving one's neighbour, with the Pope due to meet the delegates on Thursday.

The pontiff is seeking to avoid future misunderstanding between the two religions, the BBC's David Willey in Rome says.

The Vatican is also keen to exchange opinions with Muslims about reciprocity in allowing places of worship to be built, our correspondent says.

Although many mosques are now being built in Europe, some Islamic countries, such as Saudi Arabia, still bar Christians from erecting churches there and practising their religion freely.

There are about two billion Christians in the world, just over half of them Catholics.

Muslims, who now number about 1.3 billion, recently overtook the number of Catholics worldwide for the first time.

Vatican defends Holocaust-era pope

Philip Pullella,

Reuters

Published: Thursday, November 06, 2008

ROME - Jewish accusations that Nazi-era Pope Pius XII turned a blind eye to the Holocaust are "outrageous" and no one can tell the Vatican whether he should be made a saint, Pope Benedict's deputy said on Thursday.

Some Jews have accused Pius, who reigned from 1939 to 1958, of being indifferent to the Holocaust. The Vatican says he worked silently behind the scenes and helped save many Jews from certain death during World War Two.

"The depictions of Pius XII as indifferent to the fate of the victims of Nazism - Poles and above all Jews and even going as far as saying he was 'Hitler's pope' are first of all outrageous," said Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone.


Bertone who is known as the 'deputy pope' because he ranks only second to Pope Benedict in the Vatican hierarchy.
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Differences over what Pius did or did not do during the war have haunted Catholic-Jewish relations for decades and conflict has resurfaced over whether Pius should be made a saint.

The Vatican has shown signs of chafing and irritability recently as some Catholics have pushed for the Pope to expedite his sainthood process and some Jews wanted it frozen pending the opening of Holy See archives in about seven years.

Last week a Jewish leader urged the Pope to put the sainthood process on hold and Benedict reportedly said he was "seriously considering" the possibility.

Jewish leaders have called on the Vatican not to make Pius a saint until all doubts about his so-called silence are cleared up, with one saying it would open a "wound difficult to heal."

But Bertone was short with such requests. He said the sainthood process was "a religious matter that must be respected by all (and) the exclusive jurisdiction of the Holy See".

At issue is whether Benedict should let Pius proceed on the road to sainthood - which Catholic supporters want - by signing a decree recognizing his "heroic virtues." This would clear the way for beatification, the last step before sainthood in the Roman Catholic Church.

Benedict has so far not signed the decree - approved last year by the Vatican's saint-making department, opting instead for what the Vatican has called a period of reflection.

The Vatican says while Pius did not speak out against the Holocaust, he worked behind the scenes to help Jews because direct intervention would have worsened the situation by prompting retaliation by Hitler.

In his speech at Rome's Gregorian University, Bertone offered a long defence of Pius, saying that in 1939-1940 he secretly supported a British-German plot to overthrow Hitler.

The Vatican says he saved several hundred thousand Jewish lives by ordering churches and convents throughout Italy to hide Jews and instructing Vatican diplomats in Europe to give Jews false passports.

Bertone defended Pius's lack of public outcry after Nazis occupying Rome massacred 335 men and boys in retaliation for a partisan attack that killed 33 German soldiers.

He said Rome convents were full of refugees, including Jews, and a public denunciation by Pius of the Nazi massacre would have led to "catastrophic" raids on the convents.

What verses of scripture specifically define the "Illuminati", their location, their origin, their position against the Lord and national Israel, and actions as described for the time of the end?

The scriptures do define a conspiracy against the Lord and His nation during the tribulation period, but this does not match up with current conspiracy theories at all

Some are very gullible to this kind of story telling which distorts and leads into false predictions and expectations as if these things are biblically based ..... when they are not. Those who develop and spread these ideas attempt to attract attention by the "spectacular" and one must ask what the motivations are

Those who follow this kind of thinking have been lured into false applications for understanding the scriptures and the entire rant is nothing more than crystal balling the future. It is a form of fortune telling and this behavior is forbidden by the very scriptures themselves

Conspiracy theorists create the ideas that make a total sham out of the Lord's Word and at the same time they divert believers and unbelievers alike from the gut truth of the scriptures

Incorrect. Actually, false Bible teachers are the culprits diverting believers and unbelievers from the truth of the Bible.

Impossible

The Bible does not define the conspiracy of the "Illuminati" at all

Show me where this is in scripture

One must also note that predictions from those who teach conspiracy theory are always false

This should be a major indicator of the validity of the teaching

This is the method used

Create the story and then use the Bible peace meal to support it

One should never do this

Always study and know the scriptures first before evaluating extra-biblical material

All things must be tested in the light of the scriptures

The book of Acts chapter 9 calls it the "star of your god Remphan" This was a statement made by Stephen who was stoned at least in part for this statement.
It is not the star of David. David would never have transgressed scripture in this manner concerning graven images. It could possibly be associated with his son Solomom, who as we know went into deep idolatry. It is also called the Bohemian star. Basically, it is phallic and copulative. To the Jew it represents the congress (sexual) of the holy blessed one and his Shekinah and therefore symbolizes the entire Jewish religion, their prayers, and rituals which are to achieve this end, according to Dr. Israel Shahak a professor at Hebrew University. It might be worthy of note that when the Nation state Israel became recognized by the U.N., the origional banner that hung over the knesset was the Minorah or 7-branched lamp. It was later changed into the present one which is the Seal of Solomon. Why would a people of God take the very symbol of who God is and his ministering spirits and trade down to the concoction of a witch?

Though I do not believe that those who use this symbol are direct conspirators of Satan, they are at the very least ignorant of God's word and no doubt that conspiracy of Satan continues through man to this day.

Conspiracy is a fact of life on every level of existance. People conspire to marry, to form businesses, to rob Gas stations, or to meet for a dinner. When ever two or more people gather to do any thing. It is a conspiracy. Satan and Eve conspired to feed Adam and thereby corrupt the entire human race.

Thanks to you both. This is very important information!

Levite -7-- Sorry, I missed your post somehow.
Rays -- Very good explanation.


HISTORY OF THE SIX-POINTED STAR

The 6-pointed star is not a Jewish symbol, but an Egyptian symbol which Israel adopted in the wilderness due to their apostasy.

Acts 7:37-43 This is that Moses...to whom our fathers wold not obey, but thrust him from them, and IN THEIR HEARTS TURNED BACK AGAIN INTO EGYPT... And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifices unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the HOST OF HEAVEN: as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to Me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of FORTY YEARS IN THE WILDERNESS? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 But ye have born the tabernacle of your Moloch, and Chiun (Remphan) your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore, will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord...

"The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia declares that the SIX-POINTED STAR...according to the Rosicrucians...was known to the ancient Egyptians." (Graham, p. 13)

"SIX TRIANGLES...is the Egyptian hieroglyphic for the ...Land of the Spirits." (Churchward, p. 177)

"Ancient Egyptian Seal of Solomon" (Churchward, p. 188)

"In the Astro-Mythology of the Egyptians, we find belief in the first man-god (Horus I) ...and his death and resurrection as Amsu"

"This (6-pointed star) was the first sign or hieroglyphic of Amsu"

"Amsu - the risen Horus - was the first man-god risen in spiritual form." (Churchward, p. 3, 65, 38)



http://watch.pair.com/mark2.html

FREEMASONRY / ILLUMINATI - SYMBOLISM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PENRwp2Iv3w

There is no such thing as the Illuninati.

"There is no such thing as the Illuminati"

Correct

The scriptures do not tell of this concoction of human design

These are all speculations with racially biased motives that have been added with the attempt to mix falsehood into the scriptures

Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than politically driven earth dwellers with an agenda

Do not follow this aberrant brand of gnosticism

The formation and existence of the ILLUMINATI is history.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/283050/Illuminati


ADAM WEISHAUPT - FOUNDER OF THE ILLUMINATI



“At a time, however, when there was no end of making game of and abusing secret societies, I planned to make use of this human foible for a real and worthy goal, for the benefit of people. I wished to do what the heads of the ecclesiastical and secular authorities ought to have done by virtue of their offices...[21] ”

On May 1, 1776 Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists", which was later known as the Illuminati. He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Though the Order was not egalitarian or democratic, its mission was to establish a New World Order, which meant the abolition of all monarchical governments and religions.

Weishaupt wrote: "the ends justified the means." The actual character of the society was modeled on one of its traditionalist enemies, the Jesuits, and was an elaborate network of spies and counter-spies. Each isolated cell of initiates reported to a superior, whom they did not know, a party structure that was effectively adopted by some later groups.

Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform. Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human nature" through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Masonry, with the aim of creating a New World Order.

He wrote: "I did not bring Deism into Bavaria more than into Rome. I found it here, in great vigour, more abounding than in any of the neighboring Protestant States. I am proud to be known to the world as the founder of the Illuminati."[citation needed]

Weishaupt's radical rationalism, sweeping away nations and religions, private property and marriage, with the vocabulary used by the French Revolution, was not likely to succeed, and did not. Writings that were intercepted in 1784 were interpreted as seditious, and the Society was banned by the government of Karl Theodor, Elector of Bavaria in 1784. Weishaupt lost his position at the University of Ingolstadt and fled Bavaria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt


"The tenor of my life has been the opposite of everything that is vile, and no man can lay any such thing to my charge. I have reason to rejoice that these writings have appeared. They are a vindication of the order and of my conduct. I can and must declare to God, and I do it now in the most solemn manner, that in my whole life I never saw or heard of the so much condemned secret writings, and in particular, respecting these abominable means; such as poisoning, abortion etc. Was it ever known to me in any case that any of my friends or acquaintances ever even thought of them. I was indeed always a schemer and projector, but never could engage much indetail. My general plan is good, though in the detail there may be faults. I had myself to form. In another situation, and in an active station in life, I should have been keenly occupied, and the founding of an order would have never come into my head. But I would have executed much greater things, had not government always opposed my exertions, and placed others in situations which would have suited my talents. It was the full conviction of this, and of what could be done, if every man were placed in the office for which he was fitted by nature and a proper education, which first suggested to me the plan of Illumination. I did not bring Deism into Bavaria more than into Rome. I found it here, in great vigour, more abounding than in any of the neighboring Protestant States. I am proud to be known to the world as the founder of the Illuminati."
- Adam Weishaupt


"Weishaupt had long been scheming the establishment of an Association or Order, which in time, should govern the World." (Robison's proof of a Conspiracy)

There have always been Occultists who practiced the process of Illumination, but the term "Illuminati" was used first in the 15th Century by enthusiasts in the Occult Arts, signifying those who claimed to possess "light" directly communicated from some higher source, through mysticism. We find the name "Illuminati" in Spain about the end of the 15th Century. The Founder of the Jesuit Order, Ignatius Loyola classed himself as a member of the Illuminati. And, from time to time, here and there, small bodies of those called "The Illuminati", sometimes known as Rosicrucians" rose into publicity for a short period.

But it was the Order that Dr. Adam Weishaupt headed that was the best known of all the Illuminati Orders. Dr. Adam Weishaupt founded the Order of the Illuminati on May 1, 1776. It is no accident that May 1st is considered to be a "high Day" among Witches! -Janet Stewart Farrar, Eight Sabbats for Witches, pg. 80,81 Weishaupt was a Jesuit Priest who was involved in "Illumination" or Witchcraft. In 1773, due to the pressure of the European Governments- was put out of existence by the Pope. And so, the Jesuits had to secularize.

Ingolstadt University in Bavaria had been a Jesuit Institution for many years. Weishaupt was professor of Canon Law there at Ingolstadt. He wanted to see the Jesuit Order come back into power, and eventually, he published a Plan to help the Jesuits take over the world. This Plan is laid out in a book called "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, in 1798, and is discussed in other books as well:

"Weishaupt had long been scheming the establishment of an Association or Order, which in time, should govern the world! In his first fervor and high expectations, he hinted to several ex-Jesuits the probability of their recovering, under a new name, the influence which they formerly possessed, and of being again of great service to society, by directing the education of youth of distinction, now emancipated from all civil and religious prejudices." -Proofs of a Conspiracy, John Robison, pg. 59

Weishaupt formed his own Secret Society and called it The Illuminati- after the "Illuminism" or Witchcraft that he practiced. Like Freemasonry, the Illuminati is a Luciferian Movement used to preserve and promote the ancient Black Arts of Babylonian and Druid Witchcraft. Weishaupt began the Order of Illuminati with a mere 5 members.

In order to stay hidden from the vast population, Weishaupt and his co-conspirators selected for themselves "code names". Weishaupt himself assumed the name of Spartacus, and another Illuminist, Baron Von Knigge assumed the secret name of Philo. As a measure of security, the Order would correspond, using their pen names.

Weishaupt's goal was and to use Humanism (Atheism) to do it with. Then he would set up a One-World Government. And in order for his plan to succeed, Weishaupt realized that he needed to operate as much under cover as possible, and then when the gullible world finally found out what he and his Illuminati Order were up to, it would already be too late to undo the damage or to stop all of the plans that he had already set into motion!

This was another reason for having such great secrecy within his Order of the Illuminati. And, besides assuming their secret names for their members- the Illuminati also tried to hide their location, as they traveled in various countries, spreading their evil Illuminist Doctrines. They did this by using "Secret Code Names" to tell the other members of their Order where they were. For instance, Ingolstadt, Germany was given the secret name of "Eleusis", Austria was "Egypt", Munich was called "Athens, and Vienna took on the name of "Rome".

The Illuminati even went so far as to invent their own calendar, so that the dates when they planned to meet would remain a secret! The names of the months on their calendar were changed. January became "Dimeh", and February became "Bemah", and so on." -An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and its kindred sciences, Mackey, (33rd degree Mason), pg. 346

http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org/ml_adamweishaupt.htm



"THE THIRD WORLD WAR must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

None of the above nonsense is part of visionary prophecy recorded in the scriptures .... none of it

You cannot find it there

Give the complete and composite setting of the time of the end as recorded in the visions of the Bible prophets and show these things

You cannot do it

The time frame of recorded history over the last two millennial is not contained in the visions of the Bible prophets

The balance of things unfulfilled is still pending and the Lord has not invoked them ..... yet

All that conspiracy theories have concocted is not a part of the scope of Bible prophecy

Please tell me your joking.

You are pointing out that in the letters of these logos that it appears that the number 666 is in them.

Did you notice how you have to TWIST the lettering to make up even a similarity to the number?

I bet if I write your name a certain way I can spell out 666 also.

Annie....this does not make any sense.

666... as well as other Illuminati symbolism appears in a multitude of company logos, commercials, cartoons, movies, etc. . Most will never notice, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-f0NdWa33Q


DISNEY, ONE OF THE GREATEST DECEPTIONS OF ALL TIME

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=17569

Annie...

I think these companies are just creating a look in their company logo. I do not think they are intentionally trying to put the number six in the name.

Forgive me.... but this is totally crazy. And again... you point to a youtube video as a source that this is what they are doing. Ever heard of Snoopes? Check it out. You might find some surprises.

Those videos are made to fool people who will believe them.

I don't know what to say about this.

But slandering others with no proof is sinful. I'm speechless that you can base your opinions on this kind of garbage.

Chloe,

I can understand your deception.

Unfortunately, based on my observation of many of your previous posts, demonstrating your lack of knowledge and understanding in many areas, I don't find your opinion to have much credibility.

No one is being slandered here. This thread is meant to be an exchange of information, thoughts and ideas.

Evil needs to be exposed. Don't be deceived. This is nothing compared to what lies just ahead.

"Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way."
-Psalms 119:104

I do know that the Illuminati was once a very real club. Your post is about events over one hundred years ago. When secret societies were legally banned, the Illuminati eventually fell apart. It was a club for aristocrats to make them feel important. The illuminati also claimed to have had Muhamed as a member! Muhamed died hundreds of years before the Illuminati existed. This is another example of a secret society making grandious false claims in order to add mystique and significance to an otherwise unattractive club. Having an incredible past and a grand future makes a club more attractive for aristocrats to want to join. It adds prestigue. It makes the members feel like they are part of something bigger than themselves.

Here is what the Urban Dictionary had to say about it, and I agree (exept for the rude comments at the end).

Illuminati

Group founded in 18th century Bavaria by Adam Weishaupt; they claimed to possess the true right to the illumination of Christ. They also had republican political views(that is, anti-monarchial, not part of the conservative american political party of today)Thus the Order of Illuminati quickly arose the aiur of the Jesuits and the Catholic Church for their objection to church doctrine and the right of kings. It was in 1785, the Bavarian goverment, fearing Papal retribution; banned the Illuminati from gathering and group membership dwindled until it died. Though it hasn't stopped the Conspiracy theorists; who claim that the Illuminati control world affairs by orchestrating wars and playing both sides so as to keep global events well under their thumbs. This is because most Conspiracy theorists are insane hippies who hate the federal goverment for outlawing psychedelic drugs and bestiality.