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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
It seems interesting that the name "Dolly" given to the hurricane that is about to collide into South Texas and North Mexico early Wednesday morning (in just a few hours) is a nickname for both names "Dorothea" (Dorothy), meaning "gift" + "God", and "Dolores", meaning "sorrow". Mutually combined, the full meaning implied is literally the phrase or epithet, "God's Gift of Sorrow".

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dennis mann
Ecc 7:3 Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Perhaps, too, it has to do with the "BEGINNING OF SORROWS".

Mark 13: 7 & 8 - "But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows."

This appears to be the current national and global conditions as great strife, calamities, threat of wars, food shortages, increased earthquake activities, and economic crisis mount; indicating as a clue that "THE END IS NOT YET."

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Earendel
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jul 23 2008, 02:03 AM) *
It seems interesting that the name "Dolly" given to the hurricane that is about to collide into South Texas and North Mexico early Wednesday morning (in just a few hours) is a nickname for both names "Dorothea" (Dorothy), meaning "gift" + "God", and "Dolores", meaning "sorrow". Mutually combined, the full meaning implied is literally the phrase or epithet, "God's Gift of Sorrow".

-7

On June 27 this vision was recorded:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=20684

27 days latter:




There is some concern now because they underestimated this storm; it may breach the levies along the Rio Grande.

Nasty squalls of tropical downpours and tropical storm-force winds from Hurricane Dolly are now rotating onshore along the far South Texas coastline. This is just the beginning and conditions will only continue to deteriorate this morning as Dolly's center of circulation approaches.

Hurricane-force winds and lashing rainfall is and will be experienced by the Brownsville area, including S. Padre Island and Port Isabel, and in neighboring parts of Mexico through the morning hours and into the early afternoon.

Waves will grow in height (generally 10 to 20 feet) through the morning hours as Dolly makes landfall; crashing and punishing the shoreline.

The expected storm surge, from Corpus Christi south to South Padre Island, is forecast to range from 3 to 5 feet.

The intense winds of Dolly will be damaging and in some cases destructive. Power outages and structural damage are a definite especially for poorly-constructed houses and buildings.. However, because of the very slow forward movement of Dolly, it is quite possible that the most life-threatening impact from Dolly will be the flooding rainfall.

Forecast amounts are expected to be in the 6 to 12 inch range in locations south of Corpus Christi through Brownsville and into northern Mexico. A few spots, especially in the northern Mexican mountains, could get as much as 15. Flooding is almost a guarantee for several locations impacted by Dolly.

Hurricane warnings are in effect from Rio San Fernando in Mexico northward to Corpus Christi, Texas. Tropical storm warnings surround the hurricane warning area, with tropical storm warnings in effect in Mexico between Le Pesca and Rio San Fernando (where a hurricane watch is also in effect), and between Corpus Christi and San Luis Pass in Texas.

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurrican...cane_tracker%5c

data set:
000
URNT15 KNHC 231321
AF302 1904A DOLLY HDOB 28 20080723
131030 2528N 09645W 6969 03033 9942 +074 +074 265055 057 058 017 00
131100 2530N 09645W 6964 03036 9925 +083 +083 260054 054 060 011 00
131130 2532N 09645W 6965 03022 9915 +081 +081 262057 059 062 011 00
131200 2534N 09645W 6968 03010 9887 +094 +090 265059 060 064 009 00
131230 2535N 09646W 6963 03005 9868 +098 +090 266061 062 064 009 00
131300 2537N 09646W 6969 02986 9857 +096 +090 267063 065 067 012 00
131330 2539N 09646W 6965 02975 9859 +084 +084 267067 070 069 012 00
131400 2540N 09646W 6967 02958 9828 +094 +090 268069 071 069 008 00
131430 2542N 09646W 6969 02935 9797 +100 +090 266069 069 070 011 00
131500 2544N 09646W 6961 02926 9787 +092 +090 264069 071 068 013 00
131530 2546N 09646W 6968 02895 9756 +095 +090 265066 068 061 008 00
131600 2547N 09646W 6964 02874 9704 +117 +090 264054 061 059 003 00
131630 2549N 09646W 6968 02845 9651 +140 +090 260037 041 059 005 00
131700 2551N 09646W 6969 02824 9610 +164 +090 245021 027 048 002 03
131730 2553N 09646W 6969 02821 9610 +160 +090 222006 009 016 004 03
131800 2554N 09648W 6965 02821 9610 +155 +090 033002 005 001 002 00
131830 2556N 09649W 6963 02833 9627 +148 +090 059007 009 000 004 03
131900 2557N 09649W 6971 02828 9654 +139 +086 084012 014 001 003 00
131930 2559N 09649W 6964 02830 9628 +146 +090 091015 016 000 004 00
132000 2601N 09649W 6966 02821 9622 +144 +090 090025 028 022 003 00
$$
;

961mb!

Although it is still officially a CAT 1 at present, CAT 3 pressure is 963-964mb Winds could jump soon much more than 95mph.

It is going to be very rough for those that experience the eyewall.

BRO radar showing 101 kt in the SW eyewall.

If this hurricane stalls out over the water, which is what it is doing right now, it could be a lot worse when it finally hits...some areas could see 20+ inches of rain.
Earendel
QUOTE (Earendel @ Jul 23 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jul 23 2008, 02:03 AM) *
It seems interesting that the name "Dolly" given to the hurricane that is about to collide into South Texas and North Mexico early Wednesday morning (in just a few hours) is a nickname for both names "Dorothea" (Dorothy), meaning "gift" + "God", and "Dolores", meaning "sorrow". Mutually combined, the full meaning implied is literally the phrase or epithet, "God's Gift of Sorrow".

-7

On June 27 this vision was recorded:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=20684

27 days latter:




There is some concern now because they underestimated this storm; it may breach the levies along the Rio Grande.

Nasty squalls of tropical downpours and tropical storm-force winds from Hurricane Dolly are now rotating onshore along the far South Texas coastline. This is just the beginning and conditions will only continue to deteriorate this morning as Dolly's center of circulation approaches.

Hurricane-force winds and lashing rainfall is and will be experienced by the Brownsville area, including S. Padre Island and Port Isabel, and in neighboring parts of Mexico through the morning hours and into the early afternoon.

Waves will grow in height (generally 10 to 20 feet) through the morning hours as Dolly makes landfall; crashing and punishing the shoreline.

The expected storm surge, from Corpus Christi south to South Padre Island, is forecast to range from 3 to 5 feet.

The intense winds of Dolly will be damaging and in some cases destructive. Power outages and structural damage are a definite especially for poorly-constructed houses and buildings.. However, because of the very slow forward movement of Dolly, it is quite possible that the most life-threatening impact from Dolly will be the flooding rainfall.

Forecast amounts are expected to be in the 6 to 12 inch range in locations south of Corpus Christi through Brownsville and into northern Mexico. A few spots, especially in the northern Mexican mountains, could get as much as 15. Flooding is almost a guarantee for several locations impacted by Dolly.

Hurricane warnings are in effect from Rio San Fernando in Mexico northward to Corpus Christi, Texas. Tropical storm warnings surround the hurricane warning area, with tropical storm warnings in effect in Mexico between Le Pesca and Rio San Fernando (where a hurricane watch is also in effect), and between Corpus Christi and San Luis Pass in Texas.

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurrican...cane_tracker%5c

data set:
000
URNT15 KNHC 231321
AF302 1904A DOLLY HDOB 28 20080723
131030 2528N 09645W 6969 03033 9942 +074 +074 265055 057 058 017 00
131100 2530N 09645W 6964 03036 9925 +083 +083 260054 054 060 011 00
131130 2532N 09645W 6965 03022 9915 +081 +081 262057 059 062 011 00
131200 2534N 09645W 6968 03010 9887 +094 +090 265059 060 064 009 00
131230 2535N 09646W 6963 03005 9868 +098 +090 266061 062 064 009 00
131300 2537N 09646W 6969 02986 9857 +096 +090 267063 065 067 012 00
131330 2539N 09646W 6965 02975 9859 +084 +084 267067 070 069 012 00
131400 2540N 09646W 6967 02958 9828 +094 +090 268069 071 069 008 00
131430 2542N 09646W 6969 02935 9797 +100 +090 266069 069 070 011 00
131500 2544N 09646W 6961 02926 9787 +092 +090 264069 071 068 013 00
131530 2546N 09646W 6968 02895 9756 +095 +090 265066 068 061 008 00
131600 2547N 09646W 6964 02874 9704 +117 +090 264054 061 059 003 00
131630 2549N 09646W 6968 02845 9651 +140 +090 260037 041 059 005 00
131700 2551N 09646W 6969 02824 9610 +164 +090 245021 027 048 002 03
131730 2553N 09646W 6969 02821 9610 +160 +090 222006 009 016 004 03
131800 2554N 09648W 6965 02821 9610 +155 +090 033002 005 001 002 00
131830 2556N 09649W 6963 02833 9627 +148 +090 059007 009 000 004 03
131900 2557N 09649W 6971 02828 9654 +139 +086 084012 014 001 003 00
131930 2559N 09649W 6964 02830 9628 +146 +090 091015 016 000 004 00
132000 2601N 09649W 6966 02821 9622 +144 +090 090025 028 022 003 00
$$
;

961mb!

Although it is still officially a CAT 1 at present, CAT 3 pressure is 963-964mb Winds could jump soon much more than 95mph.

It is going to be very rough for those that experience the eyewall.

BRO radar showing 101 kt in the SW eyewall.

If this hurricane stalls out over the water, which is what it is doing right now, it could be a lot worse when it finally hits...some areas could see 20+ inches of rain.

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 23 JUL 2008 Time : 134500 UTC
Lat : 25:57:16 N Lon : 96:48:29 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.0 / 947.5mb/115.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
6.0 5.9 5.9

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : -0.5mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 14 km

Center Temp : -1.3C Cloud Region Temp : -61.6C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

~~~~~~~~
happy2Bfree
Texas has had worse. This is not Gods judgement.

Its just mother nature.
Justice
Oh sure, it is a Dolly Good Party.
MMarc
QUOTE (Earendel @ Jul 23 2008, 08:58 AM) *
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jul 23 2008, 02:03 AM) *
It seems interesting that the name "Dolly" given to the hurricane that is about to collide into South Texas and North Mexico early Wednesday morning (in just a few hours) is a nickname for both names "Dorothea" (Dorothy), meaning "gift" + "God", and "Dolores", meaning "sorrow". Mutually combined, the full meaning implied is literally the phrase or epithet, "God's Gift of Sorrow".

-7

On June 27 this vision was recorded:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=20684

27 days latter:




There is some concern now because they underestimated this storm; it may breach the levies along the Rio Grande.

Nasty squalls of tropical downpours and tropical storm-force winds from Hurricane Dolly are now rotating onshore along the far South Texas coastline. This is just the beginning and conditions will only continue to deteriorate this morning as Dolly's center of circulation approaches.

Hurricane-force winds and lashing rainfall is and will be experienced by the Brownsville area, including S. Padre Island and Port Isabel, and in neighboring parts of Mexico through the morning hours and into the early afternoon.

Waves will grow in height (generally 10 to 20 feet) through the morning hours as Dolly makes landfall; crashing and punishing the shoreline.

The expected storm surge, from Corpus Christi south to South Padre Island, is forecast to range from 3 to 5 feet.

The intense winds of Dolly will be damaging and in some cases destructive. Power outages and structural damage are a definite especially for poorly-constructed houses and buildings.. However, because of the very slow forward movement of Dolly, it is quite possible that the most life-threatening impact from Dolly will be the flooding rainfall.

Forecast amounts are expected to be in the 6 to 12 inch range in locations south of Corpus Christi through Brownsville and into northern Mexico. A few spots, especially in the northern Mexican mountains, could get as much as 15. Flooding is almost a guarantee for several locations impacted by Dolly.

Hurricane warnings are in effect from Rio San Fernando in Mexico northward to Corpus Christi, Texas. Tropical storm warnings surround the hurricane warning area, with tropical storm warnings in effect in Mexico between Le Pesca and Rio San Fernando (where a hurricane watch is also in effect), and between Corpus Christi and San Luis Pass in Texas.

http://www.weather.com/newscenter/hurrican...cane_tracker%5c

data set:
000
URNT15 KNHC 231321
AF302 1904A DOLLY HDOB 28 20080723
131030 2528N 09645W 6969 03033 9942 +074 +074 265055 057 058 017 00
131100 2530N 09645W 6964 03036 9925 +083 +083 260054 054 060 011 00
131130 2532N 09645W 6965 03022 9915 +081 +081 262057 059 062 011 00
131200 2534N 09645W 6968 03010 9887 +094 +090 265059 060 064 009 00
131230 2535N 09646W 6963 03005 9868 +098 +090 266061 062 064 009 00
131300 2537N 09646W 6969 02986 9857 +096 +090 267063 065 067 012 00
131330 2539N 09646W 6965 02975 9859 +084 +084 267067 070 069 012 00
131400 2540N 09646W 6967 02958 9828 +094 +090 268069 071 069 008 00
131430 2542N 09646W 6969 02935 9797 +100 +090 266069 069 070 011 00
131500 2544N 09646W 6961 02926 9787 +092 +090 264069 071 068 013 00
131530 2546N 09646W 6968 02895 9756 +095 +090 265066 068 061 008 00
131600 2547N 09646W 6964 02874 9704 +117 +090 264054 061 059 003 00
131630 2549N 09646W 6968 02845 9651 +140 +090 260037 041 059 005 00
131700 2551N 09646W 6969 02824 9610 +164 +090 245021 027 048 002 03
131730 2553N 09646W 6969 02821 9610 +160 +090 222006 009 016 004 03
131800 2554N 09648W 6965 02821 9610 +155 +090 033002 005 001 002 00
131830 2556N 09649W 6963 02833 9627 +148 +090 059007 009 000 004 03
131900 2557N 09649W 6971 02828 9654 +139 +086 084012 014 001 003 00
131930 2559N 09649W 6964 02830 9628 +146 +090 091015 016 000 004 00
132000 2601N 09649W 6966 02821 9622 +144 +090 090025 028 022 003 00
$$
;

961mb!

Although it is still officially a CAT 1 at present, CAT 3 pressure is 963-964mb Winds could jump soon much more than 95mph.

It is going to be very rough for those that experience the eyewall.

BRO radar showing 101 kt in the SW eyewall.

If this hurricane stalls out over the water, which is what it is doing right now, it could be a lot worse when it finally hits...some areas could see 20+ inches of rain.





The expected storm surge, from Corpus Christi south to South Padre Island, is forecast to range from 3 to 5 feet.

Corpus Christi means body of Christ. Peter said God would start by His own house...

Pamela
I live in Texas and we have such a fight with the border. Now I find it ironic that the lower borders got hit as well...It seems like the eye went directly over the Texas Mexico border.

The drug war taking place on these borders are getting out of hand down there....

We have an a war going on with people dying daily but our government is sitting on their hands!!!!

So, this direct border hit does not surprise me a bit!!

Maz
This is a worrycane....
happy2Bfree
What I don't understand why every time there is a natural weather related episode....so many think its Gods judgement.

That is crazy to automatically assume that.

I think the time for Gods judgement is still on the way. And when that hits....there will be no doubt.
researcher
QUOTE (Chloé @ Jul 23 2008, 01:43 PM) *
Texas has had worse. This is not Gods judgement.

Its just mother nature.


I would have to agree. Hurricanes have been hitting the U.S. for hundreds of years, and, probably long before we even took records. This storm turned out to be pretty small. smile.gif Now if 20 or 30 hit all at the same time.... wink.gif Lol, yeah, I'd say wrath lol. wink.gif
happy2Bfree
Yep!

This hurricane is not even in the same ball park as the things we read about in Revelations.

When the Lord shows His wrath....I believe the whole world will know...and NOT JUST the United States.

There will be no doubt then.

Its very very silly to automatically launch into judgement mode everytime something bad happens in the United States.

Texas has had much much worse weather....lol. (and bigger hurricanes) wink.gif

Messiahiscoming
Yes.... there have been certainly been bigger and more destructive hurricanes than this one. I do have to agree that not ever disaster is a sign of judgement from the Lord. Yet maybe why some feel the need to closely scrutinize things so much is because we are commanded "to watch"

So in order to make sure that it is not something from the Lord... we have to watch.... seek Him in prayer.... and know the Word.

I honestly still have to wonder about the name of this storm..... Dolly "God's gift of sorrow"


Is there something more behind that than we know? Of course I immediately think of what 7 had to say.... and all the sorrow and travail scriptures in the word. I know from experience having 4 children that the travail and sorrow did not start out with Great Intense and Excruciating Pain. Actually quite the opposite It was just a little twinge in the back or slight cramp in the stomach.

My 1st child.... I was quite shocked. I thought well goodness....I don't think this could be labor? Surely it would have to begin worse than this? I was very young and really only knew of labor from what I saw on tv..... and all I knew that everyone I had ever seen on TV was SCREAMING LIKE CRAZY. After awhile I was like whew well I know I am really not hurting that bad but the slight pain seems to be hanging around. My husband was like Valerie just go for a walk..... so I did. After I got back I was like Noel I think we better go.... this may be the real thing?

After getting to the hospital still in "very little pain/ nothing that had caused hardly any discomfort" they checked me in and I got in bed. Before the nurse could even get to the room to check me, I told my husband to check.... I thought my water had broke. To our suprise it was not water at all.... but I had started hemoragging.... within in seconds the doctor and probably 10 nurses were prepping me for surgery. The doctor looked at my husband and my mother right in front of me and said....."if you know how to pray.... you better start praying now!"

Praise the Lord..... within just minutes my oldest daughter was born.

I say all of that to say..... do we honestly know when the begining of sorrows starts? I am not sure? Yet the Lord always compared the end to just this ....a woman in labor.

For most... typical labor just does not start out intense... but rather quite the opposite.

For a normal labor and delievery the pain and frequencies increase. How will the end be I am not sure? Some labor starts out with a twinge and they do not have a baby for a day. For others it starts as a twinge and they have a baby in a half a day. While others still.....have labor only for an hour?

So who is to say how it will be in the end? One thing is for sure ......in every labor case that I know of..... it never starts with a BANG!

Love in Christ,
Valerie
Messiahiscoming

Pamela
QUOTE
One thing is for sure ......in every labor case that I know of..... it never starts with a BANG
YEP!

I don't think this hurricane was judgment...But I do believe it was a warning because of all the things happening on the border right now...
flyingsquirrel
I think the fact that this hurricane missed all the oil platforms it could have slammed is God's way of saying only by His mercy was this not a disaster...pay attention! repent!

If it hit all the oil platforms in its way - imagine the economic impact!
Pamela
QUOTE (flyingsquirrel @ Jul 25 2008, 02:10 PM) *
I think the fact that this hurricane missed all the oil platforms it could have slammed is God's way of saying only by His mercy was this not a disaster...pay attention! repent!

If it hit all the oil platforms in its way - imagine the economic impact!

Oh you are so right FS....

happy2Bfree
All I'm saying is that when God does choose to give the world a dose of reality....

I think its not going to be just one thing....but a multitude of things going on around the WHOLE world.

I think every nation is going to know that God is God.

However...there is a saying that the bigger you are...the harder you fall.

So.... heaven have mercy on our country.

There is something strange going on. (carrying my soapbox with me on my bunny trail)

Its like most of the politicians are intentionally trying to destroy us and people just keep putting them in office.

The people of this nation have been brainwashed, through the media, from politicians who have wanted more power for government instead of more power for the people.

You put a Democrat in power....you will always have more Government control.

Frustrating!

I want the Lord to come soon and stop all this crazyness. But I think about what that really means then. Many will perish in hell including some that I love if they do not repent and find the Lord in time.
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