Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.


mat 24;34............what generation?

Joe 1:6 For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion.
Joe 1:7 He hath laid my vine waste, and barked my fig tree: he hath made it clean bare, and cast it away; the branches thereof are made white.


the ELECT NATION ISRAEL is God's FIG TREE.

MAT 24;32.........THE FIG TREE IS ISRAEL..........each year, for the last 4000 years , satan has tried to annihilate Abraham, Issac, Israel, and the elect nation israel.

what is the main event in DANIEL'S 70th week?.........the (attempted) annihilation of Israel.........armegeddon.....the final solution......why are jews returning to Israel?.........satan is planning to attack them..........God is setting a TRAP for satan.......the TRAP is a tempting target for satan, a large gathering of jews, surrounded by satanic jew-haters..............but, satan will fail...........GOD'S WORD SHALL STAND FOREVER........MAT 24;35

but!
mat 24;34...........israel shall not pass away till all these things be fulfilled.............ISAREL will be God's Elect Nation FOREVER.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_Discourse#cite_note-7


THE destruction of jerusalem in 70 AD was a little foreshadow of the attack on jerusalem in the Trib.

the 4th kingdom of Daniel 2 is the ROMAN KINGDOM.........BABYLON THE GREAT (REV17) IS ROMAN.

so, Rome attacked Israel in 70 AD.........and will again attack Jerusalem in the 70th week.

Rome failed both times...........True (NT) Israel (the Church, jews and gentiles) survived Rome's attack in 70 AD

Israel will survive Rome's attack in the 70th week............the bible tells me so

in 70 AD, Rome was the world empire (of the known world, around the Mediterranean)
in the 70th week, Rome is the TOTAL world empire (the whole globe)

the times of the gentiles ends .........at the beginning of the 70th week.

what Generation?,

the Generation that see these things

Matthew24v

15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23: Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25: Behold, I have told you before.
26: Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27: For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28: For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

I believe, we are the generation to see the second coming, what a glorious time it will be in world history..

Unfortunately nearly two thirds of the population of the earth will perish by their neighbors hand during the great tribulation. That is over 4 billion people who will not see the return of Christ. Then at the return of Christ, He and His saints will remove millions by fire who were the devils who ate their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and children to survive. All who took part in the abomination of desolation.

The abomination of desolation starts to be set up the moment the Lords two prophets close heaven and turn the waters of earth to blood. 1290 days later the separation of the camps of faith and the camps of devils is complete.

Its already started..a long time ago dude..

2 thess 2:



7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

These are those who restrain.

1 Peter 2
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.

The governments and policing agencies of the world will not be able to help anyone or cure a world with no water. They will disband an become, some of the most dangerous on earth.

TITLE: PROPHECY OF CHILDRENS CHILDREN, TIME OF CHRIST RETURN

http://biobettyculpepperclark.blogspot.com...-culpepper.html


WILLIAM ROBERT SPENCER
BORN: March 26th, 1880

Marriage date : March 26th, 1905

Married : Johnnie Pearl McCalister
BORN: August 12th, 1887

Frances Lunell Spencer
BORN: September 7th, 1928

Deborah Anne Dodd
BORN: November 27th, 1950

Amanda Nanette Collier
BORN: March 23rd, 1983


TITLE: PROPHECY OF CHILDRENS CHILDREN, TIME OF CHRIST RETURN

The reason I have outlined the five parties above, is to establish the timeline of prophecy, given by grandfather Spencer.

His specific instruction was based on mother `not` being the generation of Christ return. He stated, ~Not your generation (Frances, 10th born of 10)), however, your children’s (Deborah, 1st born of 4), children (Amanda, 3rd born of 3) will be the generation~

The following is the factual details given to me, Betty Clark, Saturday, July 5th, 2008 :

In 1940, grandfather Spencer would have been 60 years old, when he shared with mother, age 12, the prophecy he received for our family heirs.

. . . Before mothers birth, 1928, grandfather Spencer held a 3-day fasting and prayer, in his bedroom. The whole community of Sugar Tree, Tennessee thought he had gone mad.

TITLE: PROPHECY OF CHILDRENS CHILDREN, TIME OF CHRIST RETURN

Continued:

When he surfaced from this 3-day experience Aunt Irene, mothers oldest sister of the 10 siblings, confirmed these details to mother :


. . . Due to mother not being born at the time of the prophecy, Irene,
shared the family knowledge of this event.

. . . God himself gave grandfather Spencer these divine revelations. Grandfather was spoken to by God. This encounter revealed that grandfather would be a minister of the gospel.

. . . He was told that he would not have to find verses, to the scriptures of the Bible. That the verses and scriptures of the Bible would come to him automatically by the Holy Spirit.

Mother recalls, that indeed he used his front porch @Sugar Tree, Tennessee to minister with people. And the post office @Sugar Tree, had a physical `Sugar Tree`, that he taught messages of the word of the Lord, under this tree. As people passing by to go to the grocery store and the post office, grandfather Spencer played checkers under this tree and ministered to people who stopped to talk with him about God. Mother said he could recount chapter and verses of the Bible without effort.

. . . When mother was 12 years old, 1940, grandfather Spencer told her on the front porch of the house @Sugar Tree, Tennessee, that the time of Jesus Christ coming back would not be her generation, however, her children’s children generation.

He prophesied . . .

· The True Church has not come, yet.
· The True Church will teach the 5 Fold Ministry.
· People will fall out in the spirit. People will be filled with the Holy Ghost. Fire will come out of their mouths.
TITLE: PROPHECY OF CHILDRENS CHILDREN, TIME OF CHRIST RETURN

· Continued . . .


· People will go to the store, and do not have to eat food, they buy a bottle that contains all the nutrients they need. Everything you need to survive will be in this bottle.
· People will have sex in the street.

( mother is trying to recall all of the prophecies . . . I will post when and if, she recalls anything additional )


· Special note :


· Grandfather Spencer was raised non-charismatic, “Church of Christ”, Puritan. He held no Pentecostal beliefs, prior to the prophecies.
· This 3-day fasting and prayer experience was a community gossip of sorts, that he had gone mad.
· Interesting, his great grand daughter Amanda was born in the month of March, 3 days different than his birthdate, 103 years apart. Amanda is the generation time of Christ return, per the prophecy.


· THE REFERENCE TO THE NUMBER 3:

· Grandfather stayed in the room 3 days
· Grandfather was born in the 3rd month
· Grandfather was married in the 3rd month
· Grandfather’s birth year 1880, versus Amanda’s birth year 1983,
is 103 years
· Amanda was born in the 3rd month and is the 3rd child of 3





HOW DOES THE DAVIDIC BLOODLINE EQUATE IN THE PROPHECY ?

The Davidic bloodline is known for callings/missions, spiritual gifts, special assignments in praise of God.

A.
King David’s history in the Bible, is considered the Davidic bloodline of Christ ancestry.

B.
Queen Elizabeth 1, of England, is of the Davidic bloodline of Christ.

C.
Althorp Estate Spencer’s ( Lady Diana ), are of the Davidic bloodline of Christ.

D.
Great Grandfather William Robert Spencer’s, great granddaughter Amanda, is of the Davidic bloodline of Christ.


Note: This example does not exclude other heirs of Frances, including
any/all children that have not been listed in this example, since Amanda is the 3rd and last child of Frances’ 1st born daughter, Deborah. The generation of Christ return timeframe from Amanda’s birth of 1983, through 100 years which would be 2083.

Amanda’s Great Grandmother Johnnie Pearl McCalister Spencer,
lived to her 90’s. Frances, is 80 years old in 2008. She has one
brother still living in his 90’s and one sister living in her 80’s. By the way, mother is 1 of 3 living siblings of the original 10.

the illusions of fear and security...

that is the work i am doing right now. it is deep. i don't know if i can do it.
it is an inside job. it is a faith walk. it is birthing truth and getting out of the way.

signet

Here is some questions to answer and things to consider:

1: Give scriptures in the New Testament that show WHO or WHAT " Elect nation of Israel" is.

2: From the New Testament show WHO abraham, isaac, and jacob's seed IS.

3: From the New Testament show WHO/WHAT that " generation" is.

Most of what is said above is from personal doctrine and not the scriptures but we must prove all things and show them forth. The New Testament is rightly called the " old testament revealed" Yet most want to still interpret the old testamant AND the new testament, based upon the OLD testament not the new.

the SEED of abraham is christ
genesis 13;15
17;8
galatians 3;16

the ELECT NATION ISRAEL is not the SEED of abraham...............the ELECT NATION ISRAEL is the specially selected nation that god used to bring into the world the ot, the nt and the messiah.........and the Remnant (the saved Few of the Jews) of the Nation Israel will serve god FOREVER in the PROMISED LAND



GALATIANS 3;29
if you are in Christ, you are Abe's offspring and (spiritual) heirs according to the Promise...........AMPLIFIED BIBLE

verse 28........in christ , there is neither jew nor gentile

in the ELECT NATION ISRAEL, all are jews

Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.



"in the ELECT NATION ISRAEL, all are jews"please prove this by scripture because the NT makes it clear that we are grafted in and that we are elect. So give NT scripture that says that " elect nation israel"( which is not a biblical term in itself) is all physical jews.

Gen 13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

God gave the GLORIOUS LAND to abraham and the NATION ISRAEL forever, without any conditions, requirements.

God did NOT say that they must be faithful, good, meek, helpful, etc...........it was an absolute GIFT WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS OR CONDITIONS.

Even when the Jews were exiled and scattered, the LAND still belonged to them.

God never gave any PHYSICAL LAND WITH DEFINITE BOUNDARIES to the Christian Church...........

for the Christian, Jesus is our PROMISED GLORIOUS LAND.

JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ


ONE day, the following prophecies will be fulfilled..............Israel is special to God..........even when Israel is un-faithful, God has a unique plan for Israel.................

Israel is the ELECT NATION OF GOD.

the Christian is the ELECT PERSON OF GOD.

don't confuse the NATION with the INDIVIDUAL.

SOON, daniel's 70th week will start...........the 70th week applies to NATION Israel (not to the gentiles)


Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

ISRAEL is a fantastic SIGN, WONDER, AND WARNING.

What happens to you when you reject Jesus?..........Israel can tell you!...........great punishment

if you hurt Israel, the APPLE OF GOD'S EYE?..........ask Pharoah and Egypt............10 horrific plagues!

if you are excessively cruel to Israel?..........Assyria and Babylon are vanished!.......never to be rebuilt!

what is the GREAT PROOF THAT the bible is true?...........God resurrected the NATION ISRAEL from the dead in 1948!..........

there are many lessons that we should learn from studying the NATION ISRAEL.

the OT was not written for them...........it was written for NT believers , and the un-saved,,,,,,,,,,,we learn so much by studying the OT.

The evil and adulterous generation that was being talked about is a type. Their toys and evil inventions are a little more hitech but it is the same generation that was here then. It will pass away with the great tribulation.

If it's so glorius then why are the tribes of the earth mourning and hiding


30: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Rv 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Jesus is also called

Jer 4:7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.

the Destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way.

we learn a lot from studying the Words of God

jer 4;7
the lion = god of israel
jeremiah was the prophet , just before babylon destroyed jerusalem and temple
the destroyer of Gentiles (KJV) = THE DESTROYER OF THE NATIONS (AMPLIFIED BIBLE)

the AMPLIFIED BIBLE is more accurate than the KJV

Israel was very wicked at this time,,,,,,,so, God called Babylon to destroy jerusalem

this prophecy was fulfilled about 2600 years ago, when nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem



but, it might have ANOTHER FULFILLMENT..........God's destruction of (physical) jerusalem may be a foreshadow of the ENDTIMES, when God will attack the (very wicked) nations in the Trib.
the Church will go apostate (or already has gone apostate),,,,,,,,and God will exile the (fake) Church into Babylon (the satanic world system of opposition to God, see Revelations 17, Babylon)

the True Church (non-apostate) will ?????????????..........rapture?....be martyred?.........i don't know

2600 years ago, the GREAT MEN OF GOD were where, after the exile?............they were in Babylon.........Daniel was in Babylon, in the palace, serving the King nebuchadnezzar...........is that a clue for the ENDTIMES?........I DON'T KNOW

today, there are very few REAL christians left on earth........that's why we are having the trib.

just like the "days of noah and lot" (just as Jesus predicted!)............another fulfilled prophecy!........wow!

the Saints are precious to Christ,,,,,,,,,but God will destroy the un-repentant

the wicked will hide from christ..........Israel will mourn that she rejected Christ 2000 years ago..........what a waste!........what a mistake!

Its Glorious to us that are saved, not to the unsaved..For the elect church it will be a glorious appearing titus 2:

13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

This glorious appearing is the same as this one matt 24:

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

So there are two diffrent reactions from two different classes of people, you dont seem to differ from one another..

I agree, we are experiencing now rev 13:

8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

very few presently are not worshipping the beast..



exactly..

what i am seeking is scriptural proof for what you are saying from the NT. If you are capable of proving your position please do. if not you should question it.

How would you define or discern a REAL Christian, Dennis?

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John

the OT was not written for the benefit of the OT people...........the OT was written for people in NT times..........for example,..........
i read about the Exodus, passover, tabernacle, pentecost, temple, exile, etc....and i see parallels in the NT.........every NT doctrine has a picture-story in the OT.

when we see the OT picture-stories, we understand the NT better, AND IT STRENGTHENS MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE.

THANK GOD!

what do we think when we read about the destruction of sodom?.........we see the GREAT FIERCE WRATH OF GOD upon the wicked......and we learn to fear/respect/believe God...............
the destruction of Sodom will (some day) fall upon some of my next door neighbors!..........this is serious business, folks!

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.




1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1Co 10:5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
1Co 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Co 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
1Co 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
1Co 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1Co 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

the bible tells me that I can know that I am saved.

the Holy Spirit bears witness with my spirit that i am a child of God...........paul said that

i can't know for sure about other people,,,,,,,,,,i'm not qualified to judge..........but, the bible says.........good trees produce good fruit,,,,,,,,,,and i am to inspect the fruit of others.............

a saved person today may be un-saved tomorrow.........1 cor 9;27

the bible tells me to avoid fellowshipping with the un-saved/heretics/etc..........
the bible tells me to fellowship with the saints...........
how can i know which is which?...........i inspect their fruits, and i check their doctrines against the bible.


the ENDTIMES is when the whole world (generally speaking) is beyond hope/redemption............like Sodom, Caanan, Egypt, Assyria, babylon, when they were completely destroyed

Egypt was in ruins, after the 10th plague, when Israel left in the Exodus.
every thought of men was wicked at the time of Noah,,,,,,,,,except for 8 souls.


how many REAL christians do you personally know?...........count them.

i count very few,,,,,,,,and i'm in the BIBLE BELT, USA

even my performance is scarcely "good enough".........seems to me.

Don't forget the innumerable host of people... Who get saved in the end.

Rev 7:9 After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands;

Rev 7:14 And I say unto him, My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they that come of the great tribulation, and they washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God; and they serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall spread his tabernacle over them.
Rev 7:17 for the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne shall be their shepherd, and shall guide them unto fountains of waters of life: and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes.

No one is beyond hope

you're right!

i think shekel told us...........soon , a great harvest of souls will happen,,,,,,,,,,many will convert,,,,,,,,,,,but, many will follow the beast.

shekel said..........as time goes along, the SIGNS FROM GOD will become more frequent, more blatant, more disastrous,,,,,,,,,and at the end of this series of SIGNS , even un-churched people will recognize the SIGNS as being from God,,,,,,,and understand them,,,,,,,that we are at the ENDTIMES.

and God will use this to save some


many soldiers converted at the beginning of the Gulf War...........they were baptized in little portable troughs of water in the Iraq desert, before they were sent into battle............
my point is:
when people get sick, go bankrupt, lose their home, get arrested, go into danger, etc...........some of them will call on God for help.....and some will get saved..........we'll see this phenomenon in the Trib

That's how it usually works for some reason, lol. People seek Him in difficulty. People, go figure, lol.

yes,,,,,,,,,i did it , also...........shame on me!

the heart of man is desperately wicked...........and , also, i didn't know what i was missing.............i didn't have a good teacher,,,,,,,,,and i hadn't studied my bible as i should have.

thank God for this forum, where we can broadcast God's fabulous Treasure!

Guilty as charged! From crisis to Christ. But we then learn to put Him first in all things. He is a loving God.

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John

Hear Ye! Hear Ye! All Rise- The Right Hon. Public Opinion presiding . . .


Note:
A bailef (you know, the police/security guards in court rooms)


AS you so well stated John, " I am guilty as charged ", " Guilty by association " . . .

. . . " Bailef, remove the public opinion of the letter of the law and bring forth the
spirit that giveth life " . .

AMEN !



2 Corinthians 3:6

King James Bible
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.