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destine4glory
I had a dream last night, I moved to my cousin in buffalo ny and I notice the streets were over populated with black bear , milling around with their cubs,( I thought it to be strange.) then I notice a huge polar bear on the deck of someones house by their door, (I said to myself that is so dangerous they belong in the wild) then we had a gathering at my cousins apartment and I looked out the window and saw lion walking around( I thought they dont belong here)and I was afraid to go out to the car, thinking I would be attacked,i kept looking out the window and their were many lioness and lions milling around also, then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence, I looked out of the window again and notice some property had high wooden fence(as to be sucure) then I remmbering looking out the window the next day and saw a big panda swimming in the creek with her baby, it took my breath away because it was a beautiful seen. upon awakening, I pondered what I was dreamming and the I was shown that the polar bear, black bear and panda were all bears that the panda bear is from china, and bears are mean, if any one has input please let me know . thank you
Earendel
QUOTE (destine4glory @ Jul 18 2008, 01:30 PM) *
I had a dream last night, I moved to my cousin in buffalo ny and I notice the streets were over populated with black bear , milling around with their cubs,( I thought it to be strange.) then I notice a huge polar bear on the deck of someones house by their door, (I said to myself that is so dangerous they belong in the wild) then we had a gathering at my cousins apartment and I looked out the window and saw lion walking around( I thought they dont belong here)and I was afraid to go out to the car, thinking I would be attacked,i kept looking out the window and their were many lioness and lions milling around also, then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence, I looked out of the window again and notice some property had high wooden fence(as to be sucure) then I remmbering looking out the window the next day and saw a big panda swimming in the creek with her baby, it took my breath away because it was a beautiful seen. upon awakening, I pondered what I was dreamming and the I was shown that the polar bear, black bear and panda were all bears that the panda bear is from china, and bears are mean, if any one has input please let me know . thank you

sounds like this:
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php

...actually, the rule of man (this means all nations, not just the U.S.) will be destroyed in the coming war (that is to say that Babylon the Great will fall)
Justice
An hour ago, God led me to Wisdom of Solomon 11

Wis.11
[1] She prospered their works in the hand of the holy prophet.
[2] They went through the wilderness that was not inhabited, and pitched tents in places where there lay no way.
[3] They stood against their enemies, and were avenged of their adversaries.
[4] When they were thirsty, they called upon thee, and water was given them out of the flinty rock, and their thirst was quenched out of the hard stone.
[5] For by what things their enemies were punished, by the same they in their need were benefited.
[6] For instead of of a perpetual running river troubled with foul blood,
[7] For a manifest reproof of that commandment, whereby the infants were slain, thou gavest unto them abundance of water by a means which they hoped not for:
[8] Declaring by that thirst then how thou hadst punished their adversaries.
[9] For when they were tried albeit but in mercy chastised, they knew how the ungodly were judged in wrath and tormented, thirsting in another manner than the just.
[10] For these thou didst admonish and try, as a father: but the other, as a severe king, thou didst condemn and punish.
[11] Whether they were absent or present, they were vexed alike.
[12] For a double grief came upon them, and a groaning for the remembrance of things past.
[13] For when they heard by their own punishments the other to be benefited, they had some feeling of the Lord.
[14] For whom they respected with scorn, when he was long before thrown out at the casting forth of the infants, him in the end, when they saw what came to pass, they admired.
[15] But for the foolish devices of their wickedness, wherewith being deceived they worshipped serpents void of reason, and vile beasts, thou didst send a multitude of unreasonable beasts upon them for vengeance;
[16] That they might know, that wherewithal a man sinneth, by the same also shall he be punished.
[17] For thy Almighty hand, that made the world of matter without form, wanted not means to send among them a multitude of bears or fierce lions,
[18] Or unknown wild beasts, full of rage, newly created, breathing out either a fiery vapour, or filthy scents of scattered smoke, or shooting horrible sparkles out of their eyes:
[19] Whereof not only the harm might dispatch them at once, but also the terrible sight utterly destroy them.
[20] Yea, and without these might they have fallen down with one blast, being persecuted of vengeance, and scattered abroad through the breath of thy power: but thou hast ordered all things in measure and number and weight.
[21] For thou canst shew thy great strength at all times when thou wilt; and who may withstand the power of thine arm?
[22] For the whole world before thee is as a little grain of the balance, yea, as a drop of the morning dew that falleth down upon the earth.
[23] But thou hast mercy upon all; for thou canst do all things, and winkest at the sins of men, because they should amend.
[24] For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.
[25] And how could any thing have endured, if it had not been thy will? or been preserved, if not called by thee?
[26] But thou sparest all: for they are thine, O Lord, thou lover of souls.
destine4glory
BEAR: in a dream could mean Evil men,Danger,Cunning,Cruel men


QUOTE (destine4glory @ Jul 18 2008, 01:30 PM) *
I had a dream last night, I moved to my cousin in buffalo ny and I notice the streets were over populated with black bear , milling around with their cubs,( I thought it to be strange.) then I notice a huge polar bear on the deck of someones house by their door, (I said to myself that is so dangerous they belong in the wild) then we had a gathering at my cousins apartment and I looked out the window and saw lion walking around( I thought they dont belong here)and I was afraid to go out to the car, thinking I would be attacked,i kept looking out the window and their were many lioness and lions milling around also, then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence, I looked out of the window again and notice some property had high wooden fence(as to be sucure) then I remmbering looking out the window the next day and saw a big panda swimming in the creek with her baby, it took my breath away because it was a beautiful seen. upon awakening, I pondered what I was dreamming and the I was shown that the polar bear, black bear and panda were all bears that the panda bear is from china, and bears are mean, if any one has input please let me know . thank you




Miche

What scripture is this exactly??????



QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 18 2008, 11:18 AM) *
An hour ago, God led me to Wisdom of Solomon 11

Wis.11
[1] She prospered their works in the hand of the holy prophet.
[2] They went through the wilderness that was not inhabited, and pitched tents in places where there lay no way.
[3] They stood against their enemies, and were avenged of their adversaries.
[4] When they were thirsty, they called upon thee, and water was given them out of the flinty rock, and their thirst was quenched out of the hard stone.
[5] For by what things their enemies were punished, by the same they in their need were benefited.
[6] For instead of of a perpetual running river troubled with foul blood,
[7] For a manifest reproof of that commandment, whereby the infants were slain, thou gavest unto them abundance of water by a means which they hoped not for:
[8] Declaring by that thirst then how thou hadst punished their adversaries.
[9] For when they were tried albeit but in mercy chastised, they knew how the ungodly were judged in wrath and tormented, thirsting in another manner than the just.
[10] For these thou didst admonish and try, as a father: but the other, as a severe king, thou didst condemn and punish.
[11] Whether they were absent or present, they were vexed alike.
[12] For a double grief came upon them, and a groaning for the remembrance of things past.
[13] For when they heard by their own punishments the other to be benefited, they had some feeling of the Lord.
[14] For whom they respected with scorn, when he was long before thrown out at the casting forth of the infants, him in the end, when they saw what came to pass, they admired.
[15] But for the foolish devices of their wickedness, wherewith being deceived they worshipped serpents void of reason, and vile beasts, thou didst send a multitude of unreasonable beasts upon them for vengeance;
[16] That they might know, that wherewithal a man sinneth, by the same also shall he be punished.
[17] For thy Almighty hand, that made the world of matter without form, wanted not means to send among them a multitude of bears or fierce lions,
[18] Or unknown wild beasts, full of rage, newly created, breathing out either a fiery vapour, or filthy scents of scattered smoke, or shooting horrible sparkles out of their eyes:
[19] Whereof not only the harm might dispatch them at once, but also the terrible sight utterly destroy them.
[20] Yea, and without these might they have fallen down with one blast, being persecuted of vengeance, and scattered abroad through the breath of thy power: but thou hast ordered all things in measure and number and weight.
[21] For thou canst shew thy great strength at all times when thou wilt; and who may withstand the power of thine arm?
[22] For the whole world before thee is as a little grain of the balance, yea, as a drop of the morning dew that falleth down upon the earth.
[23] But thou hast mercy upon all; for thou canst do all things, and winkest at the sins of men, because they should amend.
[24] For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.
[25] And how could any thing have endured, if it had not been thy will? or been preserved, if not called by thee?
[26] But thou sparest all: for they are thine, O Lord, thou lover of souls.

Justice
Hi Miche, it is part of the Apocrypha

* 1 Esdras
* 2 Esdras
* Tobit
* Judith
* Additions to the Book of Esther
* Wisdom of Solomon
* Prologue to Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach
* Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach
* Baruch
* Letter of Jeremiah
* Prayer of Azariah
* Susanna
* Bel and the Dragon
* Prayer of Manasseh
* 1 Maccabees
* 2 Maccabees
Miche
QUOTE (Earendel @ Jul 18 2008, 11:12 AM) *
QUOTE (destine4glory @ Jul 18 2008, 01:30 PM) *
I had a dream last night, I moved to my cousin in buffalo ny and I notice the streets were over populated with black bear , milling around with their cubs,( I thought it to be strange.) then I notice a huge polar bear on the deck of someones house by their door, (I said to myself that is so dangerous they belong in the wild) then we had a gathering at my cousins apartment and I looked out the window and saw lion walking around( I thought they dont belong here)and I was afraid to go out to the car, thinking I would be attacked,i kept looking out the window and their were many lioness and lions milling around also, then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence, I looked out of the window again and notice some property had high wooden fence(as to be sucure) then I remmbering looking out the window the next day and saw a big panda swimming in the creek with her baby, it took my breath away because it was a beautiful seen. upon awakening, I pondered what I was dreamming and the I was shown that the polar bear, black bear and panda were all bears that the panda bear is from china, and bears are mean, if any one has input please let me know . thank you

sounds like this:
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php

...actually, the rule of man (this means all nations, not just the U.S.) will be destroyed in the coming war (that is to say that Babylon the Great will fall)

wow! Thanks for sharing that vision.

May we be found as chosen ones. May we continue to do the work of the Lord, giving God glory.

LastDaysServant
QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 18 2008, 10:48 PM) *
Hi Miche, it is part of the Apocrypha

* 1 Esdras
* 2 Esdras
* Tobit
* Judith
* Additions to the Book of Esther
* Wisdom of Solomon
* Prologue to Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach
* Wisdom of Jesus Son of Sirach
* Baruch
* Letter of Jeremiah
* Prayer of Azariah
* Susanna
* Bel and the Dragon
* Prayer of Manasseh
* 1 Maccabees
* 2 Maccabees


Are you a Catholic Justice? Arent the Apocrypha in the Roman Catholic version of the bible?


Bears in a dream .....mmmm.....could it be economic like a bear market or something? t

Do you have Animal Planet and were you watching it before you hit the sack??

Justice
No I am not a Catholic.
flyingsquirrel
We are in a bear market and NY is where the stock exchange is but, I also think of the beasts in Daniel:

http://www.bibleexplained.com/prophets/daniel/da07.htm



Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

In his vision, the lion is thought to represent Babylon and the Bear represented Medo-Persa (Iran and Iraq) the black bear is American, the polar bear can be assoicated with Russia, and the Panda Bear you already made a connecttion to, China. All these nations are prowling about seeking who they may devour. All them know the world is fast running out of resources, now all the countries are searching to take whatever is left for themselves.
destine4glory
thank you, for bringing that back to my remembrance, gina






QUOTE (flyingsquirrel @ Jul 18 2008, 03:51 PM) *
We are in a bear market and NY is where the stock exchange is but, I also think of the beasts in Daniel:

http://www.bibleexplained.com/prophets/daniel/da07.htm



Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

In his vision, the lion is thought to represent Babylon and the Bear represented Medo-Persa (Iran and Iraq) the black bear is American, the polar bear can be assoicated with Russia, and the Panda Bear you already made a connecttion to, China. All these nations are prowling about seeking who they may devour. All them know the world is fast running out of resources, now all the countries are searching to take whatever is left for themselves.
destine4glory
THE BEAR IN DANIEL 7:5

“And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in it mouth between it teeth. It was told, “Get up and eat your fill of flesh”.

This creature has been written about and has been associated with that of the Media-Persian Empire, which came to power after Babylon. I again think this is correct but I also feel that this bear also is associated with that of Russia.

The nature of the bear as described in the Bible:
I found the bear mentioned in the bible eleven times. It is mentioned in terms of that of a very strong and fierce creature. There is no reference as to any Godly attributes
.



The nature of ribs as described in the Bible:
I only found rib or ribs described in the bible three times. Twice in Genesis in regards to Eve coming out of Adam’s rib and once in the above mentioned Daniel 7:5.


The argument for the Daniel 7 bear being associated with Russia:
The first point is that Russia is a super-power which is needed to match the creature mentioned in Daniel 7:5.

Russia has always been known in secular terms as “the bear”.



  • “It was raised up on one of its sides ” This would I believe refer to that of Russia’s military buildup on it western side to match that of the USA and of NATO. Also the population of Russia is packed into its western region
  • “…and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth”. This could mean the three counties in which it held with military fighting between 1945 and the early 1990’s. This would include Czechoslovakia, Hungry and either Poland or East Germany. Or this could imply current day Russian intervention with three of it’s old states in which it is currently involved or it could involve some future clamping down on runaway states like possibly the Ukraine, etc.
  • It was told, Get up and eat your fill of flesh” This no doubt refers to the world wide Soviet expansion of communism in which the old USSR had many countries under its thumb. It also refers to the mass killing under the rein of Joseph Stalin.
  • According to the National Geographic “bears roam enormous home ranges - up to a thousand square miles”. Thus Russia has one of the largest areas of land of any country on the planet and yet they were still trying to expand to cover their empire to include the entire earth. Sounds like the roaming bear.
beloved57
QUOTE (flyingsquirrel @ Jul 18 2008, 03:51 PM) *
We are in a bear market and NY is where the stock exchange is but, I also think of the beasts in Daniel:

http://www.bibleexplained.com/prophets/daniel/da07.htm



Daniel 7
3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

In his vision, the lion is thought to represent Babylon and the Bear represented Medo-Persa (Iran and Iraq) the black bear is American, the polar bear can be assoicated with Russia, and the Panda Bear you already made a connecttion to, China. All these nations are prowling about seeking who they may devour. All them know the world is fast running out of resources, now all the countries are searching to take whatever is left for themselves.


If i am not mistaken, I think all the former world powers are represented on the american dollar bill..can anyone confirm this ?





Earendel
QUOTE (Miche @ Jul 18 2008, 03:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Earendel @ Jul 18 2008, 11:12 AM) *
QUOTE (destine4glory @ Jul 18 2008, 01:30 PM) *
I had a dream last night, I moved to my cousin in buffalo ny and I notice the streets were over populated with black bear , milling around with their cubs,( I thought it to be strange.) then I notice a huge polar bear on the deck of someones house by their door, (I said to myself that is so dangerous they belong in the wild) then we had a gathering at my cousins apartment and I looked out the window and saw lion walking around( I thought they dont belong here)and I was afraid to go out to the car, thinking I would be attacked,i kept looking out the window and their were many lioness and lions milling around also, then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence, I looked out of the window again and notice some property had high wooden fence(as to be sucure) then I remmbering looking out the window the next day and saw a big panda swimming in the creek with her baby, it took my breath away because it was a beautiful seen. upon awakening, I pondered what I was dreamming and the I was shown that the polar bear, black bear and panda were all bears that the panda bear is from china, and bears are mean, if any one has input please let me know . thank you

sounds like this:
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php

...actually, the rule of man (this means all nations, not just the U.S.) will be destroyed in the coming war (that is to say that Babylon the Great will fall)

wow! Thanks for sharing that vision.

May we be found as chosen ones. May we continue to do the work of the Lord, giving God glory.


Amen...Thanks for sharing.

I want to say that I am truly greatful that God has called me back to Him, that He has allowed me repentance and humility, and that He has counted me worthy to escape the judgement that is coming on the world. God give us strength in the days that are before us. For we know that when He appears, we shall appear with Him in great glory.

The peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be upon you.

Amen.

destine4glory
then I talked to the mayor at the gathering we were having, and I asked him if children go out to play? he said absoultley ,if there house is surrounded by a fence,


I scence the fence, is like God's protection
scripture declares, the walls that surround Jerasulem, so the Lord is around his people.
if we our surronded by danger we our in God's protection
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