http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zg8v7j_Dt0

youtube video..55 minutes

INQUISITION WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES

the rcc and pope were slaughtering 700,000 non-rcc people in 1947........in Croatia.........Serbia.......Yugoslavia

ethnic and religious cleansing

this is clearly nonsense. do you take everything for truth that is posed on youtube?

um it was not the catholic church that was doing this dennis i was born in yugoslavia dennis and i feel that you tube provides false evidence when it comes to what you have left hear

it was the serbs that were slaughtering the muslims in my country dennis


my mums side is croation catholic and my dads side are croation orthadox



i will look at what you have put hear and come back with some real facts later on tonight dennis


i am about to have dinner have been on the net most of the day and just want some time to my self


slovadon milosevic has a lot to answer for as it was not just the muslims he tried to wipe out but he has turned and tried to wipe us croations of the face of the earth until he saw that we where not going to back down

my brother is today serving in the croation army and has killed many serbs plus he was helping out the un peac keeping forces with what happend in kosavo

i will add some more to this topic later on tonight



please dont believe everything you hear when it comes to you tube


God bless from damo

Does this say that the RCC murdered the non-RCC?





Mile Budak (1889 - 1945) was a Croatian politician and writer, best known as one of the chief ideologists of the Croatian nationalist Ustaše movement, which ruled the Independent State of Croatia, or NDH, from 1941-45 and waged a genocidal campaign against its Serb, Roma and Jewish minorities. He created the Croatian national plan to get rid of Orthodox Serbs by killing one third, expelling one third and assimilating the rest.[1]


When the Independent State of Croatia was formed, Mile Budak became minister of education, culture and religion. As such he publicly stated that forcible conversion, expulsion and extermination of the ethnic Serb minority was the official national policy. For instance in a widely documented speech at Gospić on 22 July 1941 he declared: "For the rest - Serbs, Jews and Gypsies - we have three million bullets. We shall kill one third of all Serbs. We shall deport another third, and the rest will be forcibly converted to Roman catholicism." {Ustaše: Croatian Separatism and European Politics, 1929-1945, by Srdja Trifkovic, London 1998 (p141); also Magnum Crimen (in Croatian language only), by Viktor Novak, Zagreb 1948 (p605) and elsewhere. Stella Alexander attributes this exposition of Ustaše policy to Budak in Triple Myth (Columbia University Press 1987) and notes that he spoke in similar terms on several other occasions.}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile_Budak



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia


Croatia is inhabited mostly by Croats (89.9 per cent of the population). There are around twenty minority groups. Serbs are the largest minority, comprising 4.5 per cent of the total population. The predominant religion is Catholicism (87.8 per cent), with some Orthodox (4.4 per cent) and Sunni Muslim (1.3 per cent) minorities. The official and common language, Croatian, is a South Slavic language, using the Latin alphabet. According to the 2001 census, 96.1 per cent of the population speak Croatian as their first language.[5]
The population of Croatia has been stagnating over the last decade. During the 1991-1995 war, large sections of the population were displaced and emigration increased. In 1991 during an ethnic cleansing campaign carried out by rebel-Serb forces and the JNA under control of the former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic[6][7] 80,000 Croats were expelled from their homes by force. 11,834 Croats were killed and 1348 are still missing.[8][9] Even moderate Serbs were killed by Serb forces.[10] Many Croats have returned but a large portion fled to western Europe and stayed there. A large number of Croats (around 118,000) expelled from Serb-held parts of Bosnia, mostly Bosanska Posavina in 1992 continue to live in Croatia unable to return to their homes.[11] Some 200,000[12][13] Serbs fled from Croatia at the end of the war. Hundreds of civilians were killed during Operation Storm, according to the BBC.[14] Only a fraction of Serbs of Croatia have returned to their homeland since 1995, according to the Human Rights Watch.[15] The natural growth rate of the population is currently negative[5] with the demographic transition completed half a century ago.[citation needed] Average life expectancy is 75.1 years,[5] and the literacy rate is 98.1 per cent.[5]



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs





Religion
Main article: Serbian Orthodox Church
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Orthodox Christianity has played a significant role in formation of the Serbian identity. Conversion of south Slavs from paganism to Christianity took place before the Great Schism, the split between the Orthodox East and the Roman Catholic West. After the Schism, those who lived under the Orthodox sphere of influence became Orthodox and those who lived under the Catholic sphere of influence became Catholic. Later, with the arrival of the Ottoman Empire, many Slavs converted to Islam. Some ethnologists consider that the distinct Serb, Croatian and Bosniak identities are drawn from religion rather than ethnicity



Languages Serbian Religion Serbian Orthodox Christian Related ethnic groups
Other Slavic peoples; South Slavs; especially Montenegrins
See "Cognate peoples" belo




Serbs are SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN………(their religion)



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Croatia


World War II
Main article: Independent State of Croatia
The Axis occupation of Yugoslavia in 1941 allowed the Croatian radical right Ustaše to come into power, forming the "Independent State of Croatia", led by Ante Pavelić, who assumed the role of Poglavnik Nezavisne Drzave Hrvatske (i.e. Leader of the Independent State of Croatia). Following the pattern of other fascist regimes in Europe, the Ustashi enacted racial laws, formed eight concentration camps targeting minority Serbs, Romas and Jewish populations. The biggest concentration camp was Jasenovac in Croatia. The NDH had a program, formulated by Mile Budak, to purge Croatia of Serbs, by “killing one third, expelling the other third and assimilating the remaining third”. The first part of this program began during WWII with a planned genocide in Jasenovac and other locations in the NDH[6] The main targets for persecution, however, were the Serbs. Hundreds of thousands of Serbs were killed.
The all-Yugoslav communist anti-fascist partisan movement emerged in Croatia early in 1941, under the command of Croat Josip Broz Tito, spreading quickly into the other parts of Yugoslavia. As the movement began to gain popularity, Tito's partisans came to encompass Serbs, Bosniaks, Slovenes and Macedonians who believed in a unified Yugoslav state.
By 1943, the Partisan resistance movement had gained the upper hand, against the odds, and in 1945, with help from the Soviet Red Army (passing only through small parts such as Vojvodina), expelled the Axis forces and local supporters. The ZAVNOH, state anti-fascist council of people's liberation of Croatia, functioned since 1944 and formed an interim civil government.NDH's ministers of War and Inter safety Mladen Lorković and Ante Vokić tried to switch to Allied side.Poglavnik was in the beginning supporting them but when he found that he would need to leave his position he prisoned them in Lepoglava prison where they were killed.After that NDH's was more bondaged to faith of Third Reich. By the end of 1941 Ustashas seriously negotiated with the Partisans about organising combined Ustashi-Communist government but that failed when Axis states attacked SSSR.
Following the defeat of the Independent fascist State of Croatia at the end of the war a large number of presumed Nazi supporters, known as Ustaše, and civilians supporting them (ranging from sympathisers, young conscripts, anti-communists, and ordinary serfs who were motivated by Partisan atrocities) attempted to flee in the direction of Austria hoping to surrender to British forces and to be given refuge. They were instead interned by British forces and then returned to the Partisans. A large number of these persons were killed in what has come to be called the Bleiburg massacre.

[edit] SFR Yugoslavia (1945–1991)




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia#Et...economic_crisis
Yugoslavia during World War II
See also: Participants in World War II#Yugoslavia

[edit] The invasion of Yugoslavia
Main article: Invasion of Yugoslavia
At 5:12 a.m. on April 6, 1941, German, Italian, Hungarian, and Bulgarian forces attacked Yugoslavia. The German Air Force (Luftwaffe) bombed Belgrade and other major Yugoslav cities. On April 17, representatives of Yugoslavia's various regions signed an armistice with Germany at Belgrade, ending eleven days of resistance against the invading German Army (Wehrmacht Heer). More than three hundred thousand Yugoslav officers and soldiers were taken prisoner.
The Axis Powers occupied Yugoslavia and split it up. The Independent State of Croatia was established as a Nazi puppet state, ruled by the fascist militia known as the Ustaše that came into existence in 1929, but was relatively limited in its activities until 1941. German troops occupied Bosnia and Herzegovina as well as part of Serbia and Slovenia, while other parts of the country were occupied by Bulgaria, Hungary, and Italy. During this time the Independent State of Croatia created concentration camps for anti-fascists, communists, Serbs, Gypsies and Jews. One such camp was Jasenovac. A large number of men, women and children, mostly Serbs, were executed in these camps.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

South and East Slavs

The Kragujevac massacreMain articles: World War II persecution of Serbs, Occupation of Belarus by Nazi Germany, and Reichskommissariat Ukraine
In the Balkans, up to 500,000 Serbs were killed in Yugoslavia.[67][68] Hitler's high plenipotentiary in South East Europe, Hermann Neubacher, later wrote: "When leading Ustaše state that one million Orthodox Serbs (including babies, children, women and old men) were slaughtered, this in my opinion is a boasting exaggeration. On the basis of reports I received, I estimated that threequarters of a million defenceless people were slaughtered."[69] German forces, under express orders from Hitler, fought with a special vengeance against the Serbs, who were considered Untermensch[70] The Ustaše collaborators conducted a systematic extermination of large numbers of people for political, religious or racial reasons. The most numerous victims were Serbs The USHMM reports between 56,000 and 97,000 persons were killed at the Jasenovac concentration camp[71][72] However, Yad Vashem reports 600,000 deaths at Jasenovac.[73]

In Belarus, the Germans imposed a brutal racist regime, burning down some 9,000 Belarusian villages, deporting some 380,000 people for slave labour, and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. More than 600 villages, like Khatyn, were burned along with their entire population and at least 5,295 Belarusian settlements were destroyed by the Nazis and some or all of their inhabitants killed. Altogether, 2,230,000 people (24% of the population) were killed in Belarus during the three years of German occupation.[74] This includes 370,000 military dead[75] and 245,000 Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen.[36]

In Ukraine, the total human losses during the war and German occupation are estimated at between 5.5 to 7.0 million people (13-17% of the population), including 1.366 million military dead[76] and around 600,000 to 900,000 Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

Hitler also tried to incorporate the Churches into his new regime. On 23 March 1933 he had called them "most important factors" for the maintenance of German well-being. In regard to the Roman Catholic Church, he proposed a Reichskonkordat between Germany and the Holy See, that was signed in July. In regard to the Protestant Church, he used church elections to push the Nazi-inspired "German Christians" to power. This, however, provoked the internal opposition of the "Confessing Church".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessing_Church

Confessing Church
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For the unrelated movement with a similar name in North America, see Confessing Movement.
The Confessing Church (German: Bekennende Kirche) was a Christian resistance movement in Nazi Germany. In 1933 the Gleichschaltung forced Protestant churches to merge into the Protestant Reich Church and support Nazi ideology. Opposition was forced to go "underground" to meet, and created the Pfarrernotbund that September. In 1934 the Barmen declaration, primarily authored by Karl Barth, with the input of other Confessing Church pastors and congregations, was ratified at the Barmen Synod through which it was re-affirmed that the German Church was not an "organ of the State" for the purpose of strengthening Nazi agendum but only subject to Christ and his mission.

Some of the leaders of the Confessing Church, such as Martin Niemöller, were sent to concentration camps, and some died there, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who was sent to Tegel Prison, then to Buchenwald concentration camp, and later to Flossenbürg concentration camp, where he was hanged. Christians who did not agree with the Nazis were left without leadership. The Confessing Church engaged in various forms of resistance, notably hiding Jews[1] from the Nazi regime. The Confessing Church is a unique example of a crypto-Christian movement operating in a majority Christian country.

Some members of the Confessing Church risked their lives to help Jews hiding illegally in Berlin during the war. A hat would be passed around at the end of church services into which the congregation would donate identity cards and passbooks. These were then modified by forgers and given to underground Jews so they could pass as legal Berlin citizens. [2]. Several members of the Confessing Church were caught and tried for their part in creating forged papers, including Franz Kaufmann who was shot, and Helene Jacobs, who was jailed[3].

Most members of the Confessing Church, however, were relatively cautious and strategic in their protests. A few urged more radical and risky action in the presence of genocide. Daniel Goldhagen, in his book Hitler's Willing Executioners, describes Berlin Deaconess Marga Meusel as a Christian offering “perhaps the most impassioned, the bluntest, the most detailed and most damning of the protests against the silence of the Christian churches” because she went the furthest in speaking on behalf of the Jews. Another Confessing Church member unusual in his speaking-out against antisemtisim was Hans Ehrenberg.

Meusel and two other leading women members of the Confessing Church in Berlin, Elisabeth Schmitz and Gertrud Staewen, were members of the Berlin parish where Martin Niemöller served as Pastor. Her efforts to prod the church to speak out for the Jews were unsuccessful and Meusel and Bonhoeffer condemned the failure of the Confessing Church — which was organized specifically in resistance to the Nazis — to move beyond a very limited concern for their church and its Jewish converts to advocacy for all people and especially those suffering the most. Meusel responded to the Confessing Church's timid action in 1935 by saying: “Why does the church do nothing? Why does it allow unspeakable injustice to occur? …What shall we one day answer to the question, where is thy brother Abel? The only answer that will be left to us, as well as to the Confessing Church, is the answer of Cain." ("Am I my brother's keeper?" Genesis 4:9)

Karl Barth also wrote in 1935: "For the millions that suffer unjustly, the Confessing Church does not yet have a heart."[4]


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how accurate is the site you are looking at dennis i have been going over this site since yesterday dennis and i am finding it hard to believe what you have jotted down



i was born in 1967 dennis and what you have jotted down is past history this does not happen if it is true to what the catholic church has supposed to have done

we have churches propping up with in yugoslavia plus teen challange also has a rehabilitation center in Zagreb

we have born again christians also living in the villages and their are sevral croation and serbian pastors reaching out to my people these are penticostal pastors dennis


as i said my mums side is croation catholic and my dads side orthadox croation

yes we risked our lives prottecting the jews my grandfather also killed sevral german soldiers dennis as we hid sevral jewish families when the germans came into osijek my grandfather and the men who could handle them selves stood up to the germans my grandfather told me they had to hide the bodies of the dead german soldiers if they were cought they would have been shot in the village in front of their wifes and family


i am still going over the links you are leaving and i am going to send the web sites to some close friends i want to see if this is a trusty web site dennis i am not picking on you or do i want to get into a biblical argument with you

we too hated what the catholic church stood for dennis my old man had to control him self as he wanted to kill sevral parish priests but his dad had a good long talk to him


i will respond later on threw the week to much reading dennis and i sort of dont want to drag the past up its to pain full


also if you are going to bring what slovadon milosavic did make sure you have your facts as it was the muslims slovadon milosavic was wanting to wipe out dennis

growing up in a war torn country is not something i wish on anyone dennis and having been brought up the way i was i wish this on no young male

god has taken the anger i had towards the serbs i no longer hate the serbs like i use to instead i put the hand out and preach the good news and try to offer some hope as you know as i do jesus can do what man cant do



god bless from damo

I remembered getting an F grade for using wikipedia as source references. LOL

wiki may not be right .............i don't know

my point is:

the RCC claims that the inquisition never happened..............the video in post # 1 of this thread says that the inqisition was in full swing just 60 years ago............that's very recent history

and , apparently, the BIG MEDIA and the protestants are protecting the pope............everybody is getting lined up to be pope-lovers in the GREAT TRIB

in the Trib, the pope will be the a/c

in Daniel 2, the 4th kingdom is ROMAN

the a/c will be ROMAN


and, if i have said false things, or hurt anyone,,,,,,,,,,,please forgive me........i want to help, not hurt

THE VATICAN THROUGH THE JESUITS CONTROL THE MEDIA

The corporate media is controlled by the Jesuits

The Illuminati consist of the Jesuits and some of the world's richest families including the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the Windsors. While they pay lip service to religion, they worship Lucifer. Their agents control the world's media, education, business and politics. These agents may think they are only pursuing success, but success literally means serving the devil. Prisoners of their wealth, the Illuminati prefer hatred and destruction to Love. Understandably, they can't go public with this. They pretend to be moral while working behind the scenes to degrade and enslave humanity in a "new world order."

http://www.whale.to/b/makow.html


“Both the Jesuits and NewsCorp attract highly talented people from all over the globe, both like to challenge the status quo and both have the reputation for independence and innovation,” Murdoch said.

http://www.thehoya.com/node/15758


The Jesuits Then and Now Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2UkylTn4i4

dennis,

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in the Trib, the pope will be the a/c

I believe you are mistaken here. In the Tribulation, at least for the first half of the 7 years, the "Woman" rides the "Beast" - the RCC will be either the Woman, or the head of the Woman, while the Antichrist will be the Beast, or the head head of the Beast. The Beast will hate the woman, and destroy her - quite a bit less likely, in my mind, if the Woman is the Beast.

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in Daniel 2, the 4th kingdom is ROMAN

Agreed.

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the a/c will be ROMAN

Agreed. However, the current Pope is, by nationality, German. Have you ever considered King Juan Carlos of Spain as the Antichrist? He was born in Rome, and is king of the 11th nation to have joined what would seem to be the Revived Roman Empire (thus, Spain would seem to be the "little horn" [nation] which "rose" after the first 10 horns [nations] of the Beast in Daniel's vision/dream in Daniel 7). He also has versions of his name in 10 languages which each add to 666, using the Hebrew/Greek alpha-numeric system (1 through 9, 10 through 90, 100 through 900). And the Middle East peace process(es) are mostly all centered around, or flow from, Spain (the peace process began in Madrid in 1991; the "Mediterranean Union" process is actually immediately based on and derived from what is officially called "The Barcelona Process" [which originated in 1995]; Javier Solana, former diplomat of Spain's, is responsible for the EU's relations to the Middle East [if I understand correctly]; etc..).

thanks, i see your point............the pope is connected with the a/c somehow

all popes have been roman.........because, they become Roman when they join the Roman Church,,,,,,,,,and they take the office of Roman Bishop/pope

the current pope was german,,,,,,,,,but he is Roman now

all RCC members of all times and all nations have been Romans



the 4th kingdom of daniel 2 is Roman, because they use Roman coins in the ENDTIMES:
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

the NT penny (KJV) is the Roman coin DENARIUS...........wiki for DENARIUS..........THE DENARIUS is a roman coin

in the ENDTIMES, the Roman kingdom will be a world-wide dictatorship, and will use the denarius as currency

You may find some things of interest at


http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/balklist.html

the information is correct after doing some reading and then going over what i have on what dennis is placing hear in his thread

but remember dennis and any one else who is doing their own re search on the catholic church and what it did a long time ago

some of the information has been wiped out under the information of freedoms act you can gain valuable information if you have the time

the catholic church does not like being reminded of its dark past

but for the healing to begin the catholic church needs to admit what it did was wrong and it should not be covering what it did in the past


my mothers side does not like talking what they observed nor does my fathers side luckly i had a good grand father who was full of knowledge before he passed away in 2004 i was able to learn and he gave me valuable information as my mums side is catholic and my dads side is orthadox

i was born in yugoslavia and how i wish we stayed instead of having to leave yugoslavia my dad did the right thing by moving to a country where we can get a fresh start and if my dad did not make the move i would have never found god or met my fiancee who is a filapino pastor

instead i would be carrying the hurt and the hatred my brother is carrying know he is a croation soldier and he hates what the catholic church stands for and cant stand seeing the catholic priests taking advantage of my people my brother decided to live in yugoslavia so my dads father took him in and he was raised the way my old man was raised by his father

also the national geographic channel has some good shows concerning what dennis is bringing up


i try to tend to avoid getting into biblical arguments with catholics i am leaving what was done in the past to my people by the catholic church and the serbians to god come judgment day god will deal with these guys i tend to enjoy the freedom i have and i tend to hold on to the peace i have and the joy i have


you have not offended no one dennis i know you have a good heart



God bless from damo

thanks

quote from one of your articles at your link:
From- Catholic International - October, 1995

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pg 455

BOSNIA

The Catholic auxiliary bishop of Sarajevo has rejected charges by Bosnia's president and Islamic spiritual leader that all Christians share the blame for the massacre of Muslims in the Balkans.

Meanwhile, another senior Church figure has appealed to the leader of the republic's rebel Serbs to stop the killing and expulsion of Catholics from his diocese.

In a statement, Auxiliary Bishop Pero Sudar of Sarajevo, the Bosnian capital, said Catholics had also fallen victim "in equal measure" to the same aggressor. "We cannot disregard the dangers of this kind of irrational argumentation in the face of the suffering we are all experiencing," the Sarajevo auxiliary said.

Sudar was responding to claims by President Alia Izetbegovic in a Bosnian TV interview that the "whole Christian world" was responsible for the slaughter of Bosnia's Muslims.

Speaking in the besieged Muslim-held town of Tuzla, the republic's Muslim Rais-ul-ulema, Mustafa Ceric, the senior Bosnian Muslim cleric, said he also believed the "Christian world" stood behind current anti-Muslim atrocities, saying they had been perpetrated by "people declaring themselves Christians."

Allegations of a collective Christian responsibility for anti-Muslim actions in the Balkans have persisted since the 1991 outbreak of war
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the RCC are blamed for anti-muslim atrocities............the muslims blame the WHOLE CHRISTIAN WORLD, since the RCC claims to be Christians................but the RCC is not Christian

the RCC religion is not the Christian religion............the Christians get a bad name because fake christians (RCC) are mis-behaving.

this is satan's goal.........to turn people away from christianity and christ...........the RCC is helping to turn people away from Christ

the world loves the pope, and the Media protects the pope (by not publicizing the pope's murders),,,,,,,,,,so the Media is satanic.

Jesus told us:.......in the ENDTIMES, deception will be RAMPANT!...........good is called evil, and evil is called good.

the RCC is the Rev17 whore.........Jesus said: COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE.

there are christians within the RCC, and they are called to COME OUT!

Amen !

Well, I notice that everybody is learning all about the past and it makes no difference at all to anybody. We still repeat it.

Some people are learning about the past and it makes a difference to some people.

Of course Satan is still on the loose and conflict will continue till Christ returns.