The Lord has given me a number of visions, aswell as dreams, concerning the fall of America. This will occur prior to the second coming of Christ. There will not be a pre-tribulation rapture. The rapture and the second coming of Christ are the same event, and this will occur at the last trump, on the last day.


Several years ago, I was working security at a bank in downtown Kansas City Missouri. I was making a foot patrol around the outside perimeter of the bank. I noticed some construction workers were standing around a manhole in the street, that was taped off with barricade's and flashing lights. I thought that this was strange since it was after ten p.m. I then heard a loud explosion and witnessed a large mushroom cloud ascend hundreds of feet into the air. I was terrified and was running for cover. I then looked into the street and noticed that there were not any construction workers, nor had any explosion occurred. I then walked over to the area of the street where I saw the manhole and barricades with flashing lights. To my amazement there was not a manhole nor barricade's. I then realized that I had seen a vision.

Several months later I had a second vision. I was looking out the window from the Twelfth floor upon Kansas City. I was thinking of how beautiful the city looked at night. I then saw the city in rubble. Flames were ascending from the remaines of destroyed buildings, and ash was falling from the sky. This ash was nuclear fallout. The Lord had given me two visions concerning the nuclear destruction of Kansas City.

In this thread I will share dreams and visions that the Lord has given me, aswell as my wife, concerning the rise of China and Russia.

A few years ago I had a dream concerning the invasion and occupation of America. In the dream I was driving down a remote country road. I noticed a group of Martial artists practising on the side of the road, I decided to pull over and watch them. I noticed that they were Chinese and were dressed in black. There were a large number of them and they were throwing punches.

I then continued to drive until I entered a small town. On the outskirts of the town I could see into the homes as the Lord spoke to me. The Lord asked me,( what do you see?) I replied, I see violence Lord. I witnessed husbands beating their wives, parents beating their children, aswell as children beating their parents. I heard loud cursing going on within these homes. One man chased his son out into the front yard pulling on his arm until it was pulled out of the socket. The Lord then spoke to me and said that the violence within the land has come before him and he must put an end to it.

I then drove into a larger town and noticed a military convoy driving down the main street of the town. The soldiers were Chinese and there were tanks and other military vehicles in the convoy. I then entered a small grocery store. The owner of the store held his head down and looked very depressed. I asked him what was going on. He replied, dont you know? The Chinese are our new taskmasters.

Then I found myself standing in a line in a government office. Food vouchers were being passed out by Chinese officials. When I came before the desk, I noticed that I was standing before the ruler of China. He asked me, do you know why we invaded your country? I replied, because America has committed brutal wars against innocent nations. He replied, you have answered correctly, you and your family shall have twice the food vouchers as the others. I understood that I was like Jeremiah standing before Nebuchadnezzar.

Jeremiah warned Juda that God had given them over to Babylon for captivity. Jeremiah told them to resist not the Babylonians. The same is true today. In the near future Russia/China aswell as several Latin American nations will defeat America in WW3. The Lord Jesus Christ will return within a few years after that. He who endures until the end shall be saved.

My wife had a vision of the leaders of Russia, China and three other nations hugging and kissing one another. The Lord told her that they were forming an alliance. Two months later it happened. China, Russia and three former Soviet republics formed an anti-American alliance. On CNN it showed them hugging and kissing one another.

My wife also had a vision of Russian aircraft buzzing our aircraft. This was reported shortly later.

My wife also seen our country being devoured by large canker worms. One came from the direction of Russia, one from China and three from south of our border.

I see the Chinese rule as an economic one, as they are becoming an economic juggernaut.

Oil, might also cause tensions to mount as China enters industrial revelution and they need oil to support their growth.

lots and lots of American people will be saved throughout the whole thing with many miracles. but it wont be on tv! and they wont sell books about it!!! and there wont be a huge industry around selling music,dvds,concerts etc!

if you say in your heart I Am and there is none before me...your saying that your basically God. Thats the high pinniacle of pride.its the extreme opposite of humility that is needed to receive grace and salvation. that to me is Americas biggest problem and it takes a big kick in the balls by a really mean and cruel enemy to solve it!

I agree with your post. The television evangelists are serving money not God. God's true miracles are not seen on television. Christianity is selling God like a cheap comodity. Many Christians lack a fear and reverence for the Lord. The majority of contemporary Christian music aswell as concerts are very demonic. As Christians we need to stop compromizing with the world and start being an example of sanctified living. God bless you!

I agree that right now they are becoming an economic juggernaut. We are building up China's economy and war machine with the American dollar.

Review this link to these geographic locations under :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north

You will know from the worldwide list, that the great wars have a specific link
to this 33rd parallel north theme.

So no doubt, your information made the list.

About commercialism, these are the sons of perdition, like Judas who sold Jesus for money,or profitering..

Thanks for the info. You have an interesting theory.

The Chinese government is based on atheism. They have no moral fabric to them. But despite this, there is a revival going on among the persecuted believers. The last I heard, there are an estimated 300 million born again Christians in China.

So true about all this "Christian Music" even Christian Rap. Have you ever heard of Craig G. Lewis who exposes the demonic roots of rap, just do a google search if interested. My church is heavily into it and when I hear it durring worship, because the Pastor will encourage the youth to perform durring worship, It just makes me want to vomit everytime I hear it now. He is now exposing the demonic roots of Christian Heavy metal and christian rock. I want to warn my pastor, but I keep fearing his oppinion, and I know God is not pleased with that, so i will give him the information next time I see him.

Dear one,
With a heavy heart, I tell you: be prepared for your words to be rejected. Not saying that they DEFINITELY will reject them, but be prepared in your heart. Our Lord led us to speak the truth in love to our pastor about tithing...primarily because we were in a position which forced us to speak the truth; and we were told we were not welcome anymore due to our genuineness. (Servant of IAM is my husband). And you are right, we need to fear God, rather than man.

When I have some free time, I will check out this individual you mention. Thank you for sharing that here.

God bless you,
Kim

This was told us ahead of time by the communists themselves. "America will sell us the rope to hang them with and they will sell it on credit"

We paid China billions of dollars to move our factories to China so they could hold an enormous trade deficit over us and economic power in the form uf US debt holdings.

I recollect from the 90s a vision from an American prophet (whose name I've since forgotten), and God showed him in a vision that BEFORE 2010 the U.S. will be a victim of a THERMAL NUCLEAR AMBUSH from coast to coast. It will be orchestrated by a joint-alliance between China and Russia. China is going to use Taiwan as a decoy and instigate a war with the U.S., but it will be a complete ruse. They will do this to trick America into mobilizing the entire U.S. Naval Fleet to the West Pacific away from America, then Russia (with the help of the corrupt Mexican government, Cuba and Nicaragua) will position nuclear subs on the Tropic of Cancer in the Gulf of Mexico as their point of southern attack, while North Korea attacks the northeast rim. The Russian point of attack will act as a perfect trajectory radial arm that will sweep across the continental U.S. apt to easily hit all the prime targets, all the U.S. major metropolises from San Diego to Boston and everything in-between.

He was also shown that this would occur while the U.S. is under great internal domestic duress that produces civil unrest, rioting, anti-war protests and civil conflicts over immigration. Again, BEFORE 2010... Subsequently, in the post-nuclear period (within 24 hours) there will be a land grab of the U.S. by China via a mass invasion. In the vision, the prophet was shown that China and Russia have a bilateral agreement to co-rule the Earth. The plan calls for Europe to fall to Russia, while China gets America.

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Thanks for your thoughts Don and 7! 7, I do believe the prophet you mention is Demitri Duduman...although the man got it wrong sometimes (especially with date setting), I do believe God spoke to him...even though we are fallible humans and can get it wrong sometimes.

Shortly before and after 9/11; I had a series of dreams and visions pertaining to our nation. (My husband already BRIEFLY shared about some of these...but this is more detailed)

I saw visions of our flag upheld in the darkness...and as I watched a huge flying, brown cancer worm flew overhead (over my right shoulder) FROM BEHIND me, and it was heading directly for the flag. I understand now that this represented the countries to the south, ie-Mexico etc.

Then, I saw another worm coming from the west of the flag and it was smaller in appearance, AND it had a gray-green appearance to it (similar to China's military color)....it went to the flag and started feeding on it, then it turned it's head towards me and I saw it's mouth opened up in a perfect circular shape. It's teeth were razor sharp and it appeared that there were six teeth, and all of them were PEARLY WHITE. I also noticed at this time that the colors of our flag had became MUTED, as in drained of it's strength or sucked dry. (definitely economically...perhaps signifying a future military invasion too).

Subsequently we have experienced what appears to be a large migration from the South (illegal immigration)...but this was not the worst of our woes, it is China (who is "small" in APPEARANCE); yet is doing MUCH greater damage (economically) than even the huge worm.

It was after I saw the worms that I also saw a large (straight-line) row of black, iron, razor sharp teeth descending upon our uppermost NW corner of the flag. After careful prayer over this, I do believe that this row of teeth (approx 7 teeth in total number) would invade from this area; ie-uppermost NW of the U.S.
(which has not happened, YET).

I've received other visions as well, having to do with Russia's fighter jets and our fighter jets and there being an altercation in the future that would be comparable to the "Day of Infamy". (I also believe this will occur along our West Coast).

It does appear that Russia and China will have an alliance to invade our country. The ten horns (spoken of in Revelation and Daniel's ten toes) could also symbolize some middle-eastern nations as well as some of our south American nations. I believe the U.S. is Mystery Babylon.

God bless you all,
Kim

edit note: I meant to say earlier that I believe the identity of the row of teeth is Russia.

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Ecclesiastes 12:13-14



13 Now all has been heard;
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the whole duty of man.

14 For God will bring every deed into judgment,
including every hidden thing,
whether it is good or evil.


love,
signet

No, it wasn't the Romanian Christian Dumitru Duduman and his visions of Sodom/Gomorrah-America; it was someone else. He spoke of seeing the Statue of Liberty ruined and plummeted into the Gulf of Mexico at the Tropic of Cancer where the Russian missile launches will occur from their nuclear subs.

America is the Daughter of Babylon and her complete destruction is described in Jeremiah 50 and 51.

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Thanks for the info in regard to Mr. Lewis. God gave me four dreames about how shameful modern worship, aswell as dancing within the Church is to him. I have posted these dreames within the thread entitled, " Modern worship and contemporary Christian music". Christian rock music is VERY DEMONIC.

When I was a teenager, I would attend many Christian rock concerts, aswell as listen to this music within my bedroom. I suffered from many nightmares, aswell as direct demonic attacks during this time period. My parents were in the Apostolic/Prophetic type ministry. My mother prayed in my bedroom, and she saw four or five demonic spirits gather around my stereo and link arms. She asked them, why they were here, they replied, "we like the music". I then destroyed all of my Christian music tapes and the attacks ceased.

God bless you for hearing his voice. Dont be afraid to speak out for the truth. If you keep silent, you will not be doing them a favor.

Thank you for sharing this. If you remember the name of the Prophet please let me know, I would like to contact him. You mentioned Russian naval vessels in the Gulf Of Mexico. Six years ago we lived in Pensacola Florida, and my wife Kim had a vision of a nuclear missle washing up on the beach. Then she saw a nuclear explosion go off in the distance. We prayed about it and felt that we needed to move away from the coastal areas.

Back in 1987, I was awakened by the Angel of the Lord, and had a trance like vision. I saw a very black sky and the moon was the color of blood, I heard civil defense sirens blarring loudly, and then a sudden explosion, then the black sky broke up into black flakes and fell toward me, then the vision ended. I understood that a nuclear judgement was coming in my lifetime.

I dont agree that it will occur by 2010. We need to be careful about date setting. Although the Lord gave me an idea about my approximate age at that time, he did not indicate the year. God Bless You!

Thank you for your post.

I have a copy of the vision (since the early 90's before the Internet) somewhere in my "forbidden closet", where things go in and are never ever seen again. One day I will have to hunt for the vision.

Meanwhile, I do recollect that the Lord spoke to the American prophet and told him that the nuclear attack would occur between 2008 and 2010, that "when 2010 arrives it will have already had happened". Those are the words of God that I recollect from the vision.

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Thanks for clarifying the prophet wasn't Duduman. LOL...don't we all have a forbidden closet? I'd label mine as the "black hole"...hehehe! Throw something in, and it never returns!

Have you guys considered that perhaps these dreams and visions could be God revealing to you the plans of the enemy to call you to prayer and intercession?

Because that has been my personal experience with the dreams and visions I have had as have many others that share these same types of experiences that I have talked to.

Hi Looking Up,
Yes, we have considered that. Most times that we receive words/dreams/visions is directly because we had already been praying over a certain situation..praying for our govt, it's leaders etc. We also ask for wisdom and guidance how to pray over certain things which are revealed because some things can be averted....yet some things are meant to be...as in fulfillment of prophecy.

I would like to ask you something, ....is there something that you saw in this thread which would tell you otherwise...(that we had not been praying or interceding)? The reason why I ask this is because I see this question being raised several times (not just by you). So, I'm left to wonder..."what is giving the impression that we don't pray???". Maybe it's because some of what we share has been revealed to (us, personally), that these events will come to pass, regardless of whether we pray or not. I don't say that for every experience I've had though.

Thanks,
Kim

Amen!
Christians are a called out people; a special people unto God. We shouldn't be trying to keep up with the world nor imitate it.

several months ago, or it could have been last year i had a dream that the statue
of liberty was in San Diego facing Mexico and the naval base in San Diego that is
built like a swastika was in New York.

next i was in a shopping mall and went up an escalator, but couldn't get back down
as i ended up in something that looked like a basket.(the torch part of the
Statue of Liberty) it was wobbling around and i called out for help. there were women
praying at the base, and i was released to where they were praying. the mall was
called the Galleria...i have never been there but it is in Pasadena, where Norton Simon
musuem is and the Rose Parade is held. this just made me think of Norton AFB and the
San Diego Naval Base involved and responding to something in the future.

it seems that people are trapped into the window dressing and materialism,
along with the delusions of politics that serve to divide us in these times, rather
than unite us. when we fail to see the enemy within our borders, how be it that
we so readily can point to "them" outthere? i believe we should be praying, not for
politics, but for repentance of America. politics is the hands of the clock.

blessings,
signet

America's Fall before the Rapture at the end of the tribulation, right before Christ comes to claim his bride and pour his wrath on the wicked; but God hath not appointed us unto wrath but to obtain salvation. fellows.


Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;


Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. Take note the saints are here until the end of the worldly system. The beast with 10 heads and seven horns, which becomes the litle horn, America wages war on the saints. Notice the little horn defeats three horns of the 10 horns. This defeat from the little horn was a victory over England, Spain, and France, or the three little horns from the original 10 horns. Now America stands as the last beast empire, which will wage war against the saints and prevail during the tribulation. THere is not a pretrib rapture; get ready. Then CHrist returns and establishes an everlasting kingdom whos days shall have no end.



(KJV) Isaiah - Chapter 13

Isa 13:1 ¶ The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.


Isa 13:2 Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.


Isa 13:3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, [even] them that rejoice in my highness.


Isa 13:4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.


Isa 13:5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even] the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.


Isa 13:6 ¶ Howl ye; for the day of the LORD [is] at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.


Isa 13:7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:


Isa 13:8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces [shall be as] flames.


Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.


Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.


Isa 13:11 And I will punish the world for [their] evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.


Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.


Isa 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.


Isa 13:14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.


Isa 13:15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined [unto them] shall fall by the sword.


Isa 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.


Isa 13:17 ¶ Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and [as for] gold, they shall not delight in it.


Isa 13:18 [Their] bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.


Isa 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.


Isa 13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.


Isa 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.


Isa 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in [their] pleasant palaces: and her time [is] near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Your visions are not set in stone. They can be a warning if they truely are from God. We need to pray against them that they will not happen. I have some people I care about that live in K.C. including a brother on this forum.

Cindy,
We have blood relatives in Kansas City (we lived there for many years) including many friends...so yes, we are praying...and are very concerned for all of them. However, we believe that these events will happen close to the time of His return (as He has shared this with us). In that sense, we do not see it as avoidable.

I do sincerely hope you understand where I am coming from....we are not callous people and we definitely do not desire to see this happen, but we believe that it will happen, at a time known by our Lord and it will be close to His return.

Of course, you are free to decide if this word is from God or not. I will respect your freedom of decision.

God bless you,
Kim

PREACH IT!!! PREACH IT! AMEN!

Signet,
I have some thoughts to share with you about your dream but will come back later as time permits...God bless and thanks for sharing, Kim

a few years ago, I had a dream or some sorts. America was in distress. Everyon was runnig, but for some reason we did not fear. The seas were raging, and I saw two large beast come up out of the sea and it proceeded to eat the people on earth. For some reason, I did not fear the beast, as my brother and I saw it in this dream. I feared it not, as in my dream they could not harm us for some reason; but everyone around us was getting eaten up. The sight was grusome. I usually have very descriptive dreams.

Just a little more "digging" and you will find that there are more interesting facts about the Statue of Liberty!!

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/mason7.htm

http://21stcenturycicero.wordpress.com/ame...-top-to-bottom/

I had a vision that I was to go and help the people in Texas, working for bread and bed, and then travel upward for 400 km through wasteland to find a group distrought in surviving, and I helped them.

I just hope it will not be that bad... please God?