I have a question. If there are false Jews could there possibly be a false Jerusalem where the false Jews worship. Is it possible that there are two Jerusalems. There is one which the world believes to be Jerusalem and one which God sees as Jerusalem. If that is so is it possible that we are looking for something that is already happening but we cant see it because we are looking in the wrong place. Could it be possible that Jerusalem is already surrounded but we can't see it because we are looking in the wrong place? Could it be possible that the abomination that causes desolation will be set up and we will not know it because we are looking in the wrong place.

This is very interesting


Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

beuatiful observations, mindonfire and nettekkie. beautiful!
Praises to GOD! and GLory to his SON!



New Jerusalem is our Mother.
New Jerusalem is the Bride, the Lamb's wife. (honor your mother and your father)
She comes down out of heaven, from above.
John writes that he does not SEE a temple in it.
Because God the ALmighty IS its Temple and also, the Lamb is. --Rev. 21:22
The Glory of God lights it...and its lamp is the Lamb.


Do not we all recall and remember how it is explained in scripture that the temple and the whole arrangement were simply earthly things that FORESHADOWED THE REALITY in the HEAVENS? Hebrews plainly declares this to be so.

the REALITY BELONGS TO THE CHRIST.

When the REALITY arrived, that which was earthly, of the flesh, was near to passing away...

But concerning the literal city of Jerusalem...
Jesus said plainly LOOK! YOUR house is ABANDONED to YOU.
it was left....abandoned ....BY WHOM? and it was ABANDONED ...TO whom?

Please do not look BACK to that which is earthly....(REMEMBER the wife of LOT!)
why should you be turned back again to the elementary things of this world.. ??
for all those things were a Pattern, an example, and the all those former things pointed TO, and lead TO,
all these things FORESHADOWED and were to LEAD TO THE REALITY.
and the REALITY is the CHRIST.


who is it that OPERATES...according to the FLESH...?
and who is it that operates....according to the thing SEEN...?

But rather, the scriptures speak to us of things UNSEEN.

and the REALITY belongs to the Christ!!

do not be misled....Christ FULFILLED THE LAW....

and HIS BODY... the TRUE TEMPLE ....
was RAISED UP!!!
HE resides, not here, but in HEAVEN...

but his followers--some still remain here, alive, on earth.
These are the representatives that That ONE sends forth....
And just as HIS Father sent Him forth,
So therefore, likewise, Christ sends his own ambassadors forth,
to proclaim the Good News,
that JESUS is THE CHRIST.

DO NOT turn back again to the things that LEAD to the CHRIST.
FOR he is the LIVING SON OF GOD!!

love,
bz

(the devil is very crafty...always....he appeals the the FLESH...
always...to the things seen with the eyes..and his prupose?
ALWAYS is to lie and to DECEIVE. --that one is a manslayer! a liar!)

FOR those that have EARS! LISTEN TO WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS!

Thank you, BZ. I needed that just now. Newness. Everything old passing away. Jehovah Father, thank you for not keeping any of it adn amking it all gone. None of it is worth anything. Is it not so grand that He can not be anywhere there is evil? keeping Himself pure and spotless so we will eventually have somewhere to go.

Thanks. You always help me and distroy me and get rid of old "skeletons" (skull, crossed femors and all). Dont you ever forget my address.

Leia

always, dear Leia, i will remain your friend. but you know this!
and i will not forget.
but i thank our God and Father along with you,
for truly, His Son makes all things NEW.

But regarding the HOUSE that would be completed and finished...
It is Jehovah God himself who must build it.
and it is by means of His SPIRIT that it is finished and accomplished.
the work of men's hands is to no avail.
Unless Jehovah himself builds the Temple,
it is of no use that men have worked hard on it.
and unless Jehovah himself Guards the City,
it is of no use that its watchmen have stayed awake.

and what earthly temple could house the very God of the HEAVENS!
the heavens themselves are not enough to contain him!!

LOOK!! he stretches out the heavens as mere fine gauze!
ALL the Nations!! are as a drop hanging from a pail's rim!!
He measures the waters in the mere palm of his hand!!

Our GOD IS GREAT
and I do tremble before him!
His Word is MAJESTIC!
LET US PRAISE HIM!!
ALL YOU PEOPLE!!! ALL YOU NATIONAL GROUPS!!
LET US PRAISE JAH!!
PRAISE JAH YOU PEOPLE!!

FOR OUR GOD IS KING OVER ALL CREATION!
HIS LOVE ENDURES FOREVER!
HIS LOVE ENDURES FOREVER!

LOVE!!
bz

Yes perhaps the Jerusalem refferred to is not meant to be taken liturally in the explanation of the abomination that causes desolation , it does say figuratively in Revelations 11.

I saw this post and thought Mindonfire was back. That's a name I haven't seen around here in a while. I wonder what Jerusalem was surrounded in 2005 or after that we didn't know about.

There are two, physical and the Spirtitual
Summarising the Meaning of the Ancient Sanctuary in Daniel

http://www.livingstonsda.org.au/Daniel8.pdf

Minister D