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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
VIDEO: “UNDENIABLE PROOF OF REAL ALIENS”

Not recommended for the faint Christian Bible-Thumper who believes ONLY in quaint little Bible stories.

SEE: VIDEO

The Space Shuttle Columbia’s Feb. 25, 1996 STS-75 Space Shuttle mission launch of a satellite 300 miles above the atmosphere precipitated a tether break which was 12 miles long as it straightens while it drifted in space. This event attracted a SWARM of about 40 alien spacecrafts (some 2 and 3 miles in diameter) hovering around the tether to observe the accidental phenomenon unfolding. This was all recorded by NASA on video from the Space Shuttle Colombia. The Columbia astronauts all saw the swarms of alien craft; they were not engaged in mass hallucination. The NASA personnel at the John Space Center in Houston also saw the swarms on their massive viewing screens. They too were not engaged in mass hallucination. This was real.

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dennis mann
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 22 2008, 01:09 PM) *
VIDEO: “UNDENIABLE PROOF OF REAL ALIENS”

Not recommended for the faint Christian Bible-Thumper who believes ONLY in quaint little Bible stories.

SEE: VIDEO

The Space Shuttle Columbia’s Feb. 25, 1996 STS-75 Space Shuttle mission launch of a satellite 300 miles above the atmosphere precipitated a tether break which was 12 miles long as it straightens while it drifted in space. This event attracted a SWARM of about 40 alien spacecrafts (some 2 and 3 miles in diameter) hovering around the tether to observe the accidental phenomenon unfolding. This was all recorded by NASA on video from the Space Shuttle Colombia. The Columbia astronauts all saw the swarms of alien craft; they were not engaged in mass hallucination. The NASA personnel at the John Space Center in Houston also saw the swarms on their massive viewing screens. They too were not engaged in mass hallucination. This was real.

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it was not mass hallucination.

it was a satanic deception..............Pharoah's magicians could turn dry wooden walking-sticks into living snakes........and other miracles

the magicians did it by satanic-miracle-power

but God's miracles (by Moses) were more powerful (and more numerous)

the world has rejected the greatest miracle of all time!.............God turns wicked sinners into wonderful , loving, humble, christians, full of good works!.............by the mighty power of the BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

let's see satan duplicate that miracle!...........he won't do it,,,,,,,,,and he can't do it.............ONLY GOD CAN DO IT.


don't believe satanic deceptions...................believe the Bible-Truths as listed below:


JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ




I can prove , from the Bible text, that there are no ETs anywhere, or Martians, or UFOs.


Man is the image of God, the crowning pinnacle of all creation. There is no other form of life equal to or greater than man because man is God's image.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Who is God?……He is the God of Israel (not Mars).
Jesus was incarnated as a MAN (not a Martian or ET).
There is a MAN (not a Martian) at the right hand of the Throne of God in Heaven, RIGHT NOW!
From Genesis to Revelation, God’s focus is on Earth, Israel, Jerusalem (not Mars).
Who will Jesus marry?……….the Church (mankind, not Martians).
Why did the SON OF GOD become a MAN (not a Martian)?…….He wanted to be ONE OF US ……….EMMANUEL.
Will Jesus die again on Mars for the Redemption of Martians?…………No, He can’t die again (Read Hebrews)…………..Now, His body is a resurrection body, incapable of death.
Where is God’s focus? Earth.
Where did God put His Name? Jerusalem, on Earth.
Where did God put His “peculiar treasure” (the nation Israel)? Earth, in the Promised Land.
What shall the meek (Jesus and His Bride) inherit, as per the Sermon on the Mount? Earth.
Where was the Savior, Jesus, born, crucified, and resurrected? Earth.
Will Jesus die AGAIN for the sins and Redemption of the Martians, on Mars? No. Jesus died a ONE-TIME DEATH, and cannot die again. He is in His Resurrection body now, which CANNOT die or even get sick.
Where will Jesus Return? Earth.
Where will Jesus Reign, during the Millenial Reign? On Earth, in Jerusalem.
Where will we spend Eternity Future, an Endless Day? The New Jerusalem, on (or above) the New Earth.

My point is: God’s focus is on Earth, and Earthlings, and Jerusalem.
There are no ETs. The Bible indicates that there are no Martians..

The (alledged) possiblility of the existance of ETs is simply propaganda for the Evolution Lie.

Why do people “claim” to believe Evolution? It contradicts the Bible; and God’s enemies are try-ing every trick to destroy our confidence in the Bible.

……….

There are a few UFOs which are NOT man-made hoaxes. They are demon-made hoaxes.
Pharoah’s magicians transformed their walking sticks into snakes.
The demons have great super-natural powers.
BUT! God’s powers are greater.
Why does God allow demons (and men) to trick and lie? God is testing our faith and love.

Did God become a Martian? or ET?
no,......He (Jesus) became a MAN!
The Son of God became a MAN (a God-man, Jesus) , who is 100% God, and 100% man.
Why?
He wanted to become ONE OF US (mankind), so that He could SUBSTITUTE for man, and take man's penalty for sin.
A bull cannot substitute for a man……………but a man can substitute for a man.
So, He became a man.and He was resurrected , a man , with a better (resurrection) body,and He now sits at the right hand of the Heavenly Father................a MAN is sitting in Heaven, at the right hand of the THRONE!
WOW!
as in Ephesians, if we are "in Christ", we are "in the Heavenlies" (not down here on lowly, sin-filled earth),
Are the Martians dis-appointed, that God didn't become a Martian?..........No, because , there are no Martians.

*****

why did God put the Adamic curse on ALL CREATION, including angels, stars , planets, galaxies, dogs, cats, and me?.......................because Adam sinned..........Romans 8;22

the curse was put on the Martians, because adam sinned...........(assuming that Martians exist, BUT MARTIANS DON'T EXIST)

was the curse put on Adam, because the martians sinned?..........no, that wouldn't be FAIR AND LOVING AND RIGHTEOUS.

obviously, Martians don't exist anywhere in Creation...........(Dave Hunt said so)...........i learned this from Dave Hunt

thank God for Dave and my Bible!





Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Rom 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


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Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Ephesians 5;11 Amplified Bible
11Take no part in and have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds and enterprises of darkness, but instead [let your lives be so in contrast as to] [d]expose and reprove and convict them.

THE WHOLE WORLD, AND TIME ITSELF, REVOLVES AROUND JESUS CHRIST.
either,...... you're busy promoting Him, ........or you're busy fighting Him,....... (whether you realize it or not).




THE SEVEN THUNDERS
COLUMBIA TETHER ACCIDENT & UFOS DOCUMENTED
dennis mann
you said: Not recommended for the faint Christian Bible-Thumper who believes ONLY in quaint little Bible stories.


you said:
quaint little Bible stories.


my response:
you've revealed what you think of the WORD OF GOD...............you've rejected the scripture

THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Jun 22 2008, 02:07 PM) *
you said: Not recommended for the faint Christian Bible-Thumper who believes ONLY in quaint little Bible stories.


you said:
quaint little Bible stories.


my response:
you've revealed what you think of the WORD OF GOD...............you've rejected the scripture


You're PSYCHO.

I was describing the SHALLOW CHRISTIAN MENTALITY that YOU HAVE.
dennis mann
like i've already said 3 times...............deal with the Bible Truths that i have posted in this thread, and the previous thread............you've not done that yet

and you can't do it.............your claims contradict the scripture
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Who do you think you are entitled to make such demands, acting like I owe you? How egotistical.

I don't think so.

You need to take a class in proper and civilized constructive debate, sans personal enduendos, if that's what you desire, but your methodology does not entice me to engage with you; it's very OFFENSIVE and CONDESCENDING which is WHY I have "reacted" to you with repulsion. I'm a human being, not a piece of trash or dirt. Is this how you treat everyone around you, like dirt? How Christ-like--- hmm.

grouchyhermit
I have a problem with the whole "Aliens" coming to earth thing.I'm a creationist but I don't pretend to have it all figured out. My problem is, if the "Big Bang theory" is correct, and evolution is true, we would still have a pretty level playing field. How is it that they "evolved" so quickly and have all this wonderful technology if they started out about the same time we did? The furthest we have sent a man was to the moon, how can they already be exploring the galaxy or even the universe? Just wondering.
Justice
You, who keep doing Satans work, I have news for you all.

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.
Maz
Watching the video, I have to note that we live in a time when digital recorders record detail and send it by telemetry from Mars to earth and have great detail. Yet this pictoral display is fuzzy and grainy. I have seen many pictures of the space program in Hi Rez detail. Yet this is a grade b detail of little clarity. Objects swoop and dive and comparisons are made as to size etc by the known length of the tether. One would expect the astronauts to demonstrate some level of human agitation at such a sight, yet they remain calm and clinical to the max. Like this is so ordinary. But I suppose they have been privately briefed that if and when there is a close encounter they best behave according to a preset standard or risk great censure upon return. If I just saw demons, or if I just saw aliens...one would expect either case to bring a show of spirited exchange. But not....who knows? I know we are not alone in the universe...God is too big for that...
Maz
QUOTE (grouchyhermit @ Jun 22 2008, 02:52 PM) *
I have a problem with the whole "Aliens" coming to earth thing.I'm a creationist but I don't pretend to have it all figured out. My problem is, if the "Big Bang theory" is correct, and evolution is true, we would still have a pretty level playing field. How is it that they "evolved" so quickly and have all this wonderful technology if they started out about the same time we did? The furthest we have sent a man was to the moon, how can they already be exploring the galaxy or even the universe? Just wondering.

I guess I have wondered this too...if they are out there why have they advanced so far and not we?
researcher
Should be Jesus coming back in "chariots" out of the heavens and the armies of the world fight against Him and His armies

Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.


Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.

Chariots
Eze 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.


The a/c, beast etc is going to tell everyone it's an invasion apparently, so, the armies of the world will fight against who is coming down from the sky in "chariots" and on "horses".

Which is why you see so many movies today depicting anything coming from outside of the earth as being bad. Pre-conditioning so everyone will automatically assume when it happens, whoever it is will not be good. Last time I checked, horses can't fly, lol, or "chariots" for that matter. Our modern day chariots can though, F-16's, stealth bombers etc. I don't think they'll be a match for whatever the "armies" are on though. It'll be like a dogfight, in the sky. With missiles and rockets going off trying to take out whatever He and the armies are on. Should be interesting to see at least. blink.gif huh.gif smile.gif
Justice
This is the LAST time I warn you: the fake one comes in a machine. The True One comes visible in His Glory.

So do not go tell before the Throne of God: "I did not know", for I told you so!
whirlwind
QUOTE (researcher @ Jun 22 2008, 05:26 PM) *
Should be Jesus coming back in "chariots" out of the heavens and the armies of the world fight against Him and His armies

Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.


Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.

Chariots
Eze 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.


The a/c, beast etc is going to tell everyone it's an invasion apparently, so, the armies of the world will fight against who is coming down from the sky in "chariots" and on "horses".

Which is why you see so many movies today depicting anything coming from outside of the earth as being bad. Pre-conditioning so everyone will automatically assume when it happens, whoever it is will not be good. Last time I checked, horses can't fly, lol, or "chariots" for that matter. Our modern day chariots can though, F-16's, stealth bombers etc. I don't think they'll be a match for whatever the "armies" are on though. It'll be like a dogfight, in the sky. With missiles and rockets going off trying to take out whatever He and the armies are on. Should be interesting to see at least. blink.gif huh.gif smile.gif




I agree. I saw the video last year and it looks very real. There is another one of them being shot at with a beam from somewhere, possibly another ufo. Something is out there and yes....it will be interesting to see! I beleive they are the "chariots and horses" of the Bible.
researcher
QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 22 2008, 03:33 PM) *
This is the LAST time I warn you: the fake one comes in a machine. The True One comes visible in His Glory.

So do not go tell before the Throne of God: "I did not know", for I told you so!


He's actually coming on a Horse, and, with chariots. And, His armies will be on horses and chariots. Chariots in the bible depict anything from literal horse drawn chariots, to tanks and jets and planes etc. The description spans all advances in technology. Today's chariots and horses are cars, tanks, etc. His will be something different, spiritual material or whatever.

Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Isa 66:16 For by fire will Jehovah execute judgment, and by his sword, upon all flesh; and the slain of Jehovah shall be many.


Rev 19:11 And I saw the heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon called Faithful and True; and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.
Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.

The armies of the world aren't going to be shooting at spirits (well, kind of, but, our spirits will be on horses and in chariots of which we don't know what they are yet). And, they will be visible to people on the earth. If they weren't, the world's armies wouldn't know what to try and take out lol. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif wink.gif wink.gif cool.gif
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (grouchyhermit @ Jun 22 2008, 04:52 PM) *
I have a problem with the whole "Aliens" coming to earth thing.I'm a creationist but I don't pretend to have it all figured out. My problem is, if the "Big Bang theory" is correct, and evolution is true, we would still have a pretty level playing field. How is it that they "evolved" so quickly and have all this wonderful technology if they started out about the same time we did? The furthest we have sent a man was to the moon, how can they already be exploring the galaxy or even the universe? Just wondering.


I agree, but the "IF" Evolution were true premise is false. Academia and science endorse a linear history of Earth assuming that civilization started 5 to 7 thousand years ago. The truth is that earthly civilization has had several starts and stops (cycles) as recorded by the Ancients who were privy to lost historical documents from a previous technological Earth Age (most likely burned in the Great Library of Alexandria).

These cycles are halted by periodic cosmocataclysms, thus catapulting a remnant of postcatastrophic survivors back to a revived state of Neobarbarism. Even the scriptures allude to that the last war with Gog and Magog will be fought with wooden implements and arms that can be burned (wood), postcatastrophic low-tech.

So this means (just as Plato attested) there were several advance civilizations that once preexisted on Earth that progressed to a technological level, a global technoculture. Read "Forbidden Archaeology" by Thompson and Cremo where they examine technological artifacts uncovered from deep below the Earth and in coal mines.

My point is that these former technocultures on Earth "created" out of their "evil imagnination" technological things and even genetically engineered "beings", like anthropomorphic drones, "engineered super-soldiers" for armies, and even the Grays, considered to be a self-contained biological cyborgs to serve certain functions in a post-catastrophic period; hence "DNA harvesting", "reseeding" and "periodic hybrid creation". Some of these have survived and are in the Universe.

Some of the craft are 1) Interdimensional from our own past; and 2) Interdimensional from our own future; 3) emissaries that took refuge elsewhere, having gone forth from the Earth and "multiplied", and return periodically after countless years through wormholes to check on their home base neighborhood, Earth, their origin.

But not ALL these produced from the Earth are "Good", some have the "Mark of the Beast" and are "Evil" and are influenced by Satan; and these two factions war against each other.

The typical Christian has not connected the dots regarding this issue, and those will be at a disadvantage; it will be a detriment to their Faith because their simplistic worldview (the surface reading of the literal letter of the Word rather than the interdimensional depth of the Word) will not be able to digest it resulting in the collapse of their Faith producing spiritual and mental trauma.

And, this is why when Christ returns, He will find "VERY LITTLE FAITH".

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C
I know you guys like to write about these things and I have looked at this video a long time ago as well. You must Google "Rods" and look at them on YouTube as well. Many species of animals have not been discovered yet, even here in the African jungle we hear the stories of the real Dinosaurs that still roam in the deep forests . Deep under the oceans swim dark and wonderful creatures , still undiscovered and then also: High above us and around us, many strange and wonderful creatures still fly and because of where and how fast (as you will see in the Rods) we have only caught glimpses of them. But believe me, God made them all during those six wonderful first days.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Yes, the Rods are certainly a true biological enigma; I've known about them since José Escamilla released his bewildering video tapes of them in the 90's when he captured them on digitized video (when this technology first came out) in the Cave of the Swallows in Mexico.

This is a very good point which I continually stress, we do not know the WHOLE STORY and ALL that IS. If people "think" they do, then they are deceived. Yet, we can see that these "Rod" life forms exist, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF THEM in the Bible. So this ridiculous primitive and archaic "MENTALITY" of "IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE, THEN SATAN DID IT," becomes an obvious FALLACY.









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whirlwind
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 07:23 AM) *
Yes, the Rods are certainly a true biological enigma; I've known about them since José Escamilla released his bewildering video tapes of them in the 90's when he captured them on digitized video (when this technology first came out) in the Cave of the Swallows in Mexico.

This is a very good point which I continually stress, we do not know the WHOLE STORY and ALL that IS. If people "think" they do, then they are deceived. Yet, we can see that these "Rod" life forms exist, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF THEM in the Bible. So this ridiculous primitive and archaic "MENTALITY" of "IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE, THEN SATAN DID IT," becomes an obvious FALLACY.









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In your opinion....are the rods simply insects that are flying so fast they appear as a "rod" in that segment of film? If not what do you believe they are?
dennis mann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(cryptozoology)
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (researcher @ Jun 22 2008, 06:26 PM) *
Should be Jesus coming back in "chariots" out of the heavens and the armies of the world fight against Him and His armies

Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.


Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.

Chariots
Eze 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.


The a/c, beast etc is going to tell everyone it's an invasion apparently, so, the armies of the world will fight against who is coming down from the sky in "chariots" and on "horses".

Which is why you see so many movies today depicting anything coming from outside of the earth as being bad. Pre-conditioning so everyone will automatically assume when it happens, whoever it is will not be good. Last time I checked, horses can't fly, lol, or "chariots" for that matter. Our modern day chariots can though, F-16's, stealth bombers etc. I don't think they'll be a match for whatever the "armies" are on though. It'll be like a dogfight, in the sky. With missiles and rockets going off trying to take out whatever He and the armies are on. Should be interesting to see at least. blink.gif huh.gif smile.gif


I've heard this before from others and it makes perfect sense. Some have relayed that the reason the unified armies of the Earth go to battle with the Bride and Christ upon Their return is because the world will be convinced by the Antichrist that the invaders (the returning Jesus and the Bride) are aliens from another planet (creations of Satan) coming to invade the Earth, when in fact that will not be the case. See how the archaic Christian Worldview is going to feed the deception against themselves? And this will be the Church of the Tares that flourished with the Church of the Wheat, which by then will have already been taken out, for they will be the Bride returning with Christ.

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Justice
I am not sure if you Trekkies are waiting for God or Jean-Luc Picard... LOL
Adullam
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 08:57 AM) *
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 07:23 AM) *
Yes, the Rods are certainly a true biological enigma; I've known about them since José Escamilla released his bewildering video tapes of them in the 90's when he captured them on digitized video (when this technology first came out) in the Cave of the Swallows in Mexico.

This is a very good point which I continually stress, we do not know the WHOLE STORY and ALL that IS. If people "think" they do, then they are deceived. Yet, we can see that these "Rod" life forms exist, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF THEM in the Bible. So this ridiculous primitive and archaic "MENTALITY" of "IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE, THEN SATAN DID IT," becomes an obvious FALLACY.









-7




In your opinion....are the rods simply insects that are flying so fast they appear as a "rod" in that segment of film? If not what do you believe they are?



Cruise missiles....these have been named after Tom Cruise. Scientologists are in league with the aliens.
whirlwind
QUOTE (adullam @ Jun 23 2008, 10:15 AM) *
In your opinion....are the rods simply insects that are flying so fast they appear as a "rod" in that segment of film? If not what do you believe they are?


QUOTE
Cruise missiles....these have been named after Tom Cruise. Scientologists are in league with the aliens.



There are times you are actually funny and then.....there are times you are simply irritating!
Justice
You who live in your mind in Hollywood, watch it tumble.
dennis mann
Emmanuel.............means "GOD WITH US"

MATT 1;23
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

ISA 7;14
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

The birth of a Child is prophecied , to be a SIGN.
Jesus Christ is EMMANUEL..............or IMMANUEL


if there are humans, Martians , or ETs anywhere (except earth), ............how could God be with THEM?............if God (Jesus ) is WITH US?

belief in ETs or humans on other planets contradicts the Bible (the doctrine and Person of IMMANUEL, GOD WITH US).

will the ETs come to earth, to be with Jesus?..........of course not...........the Bible contradicts it..............the ETs are not descended from Adam and Eve...............

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

Eve is the mother of all living,,,,,,,,,so, if there are men on other planets, they must be dead.

there are no men (or anyone else) on other planets


there are zillions of angels and fallen angels (demons) in the Creation,,,,,,,
and the demons sometimes masquerade as Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the deceased, the Saints, ETs, Spirits, spirit-guides, etc.

demons (masquerading as angels of God) appeared to Muhammed and Joseph Smith (and many others) , and started false religions.

the multitude of false religions are satan's ploy,,,,,,,,,,,,,people are bewildered by the thousands of choices,,,,,,,,,,,,WHICH RELIGION IS THE TRUE RELIGION?

we can prove that the Bible is True..........but, most people don't know how.
Adullam
The fact remains that there are very few aliens migrating into let's say the US. By far the vast majority of these "illegal" aliens are either from Mexico or Latin America. It is too soon to blow the whistle on inter-planetary migrationists IMHO.
C
QUOTE (adullam @ Jun 23 2008, 06:09 PM) *
The fact remains that there are very few aliens migrating into let's say the US. By far the vast majority of these "illegal" aliens are either from Mexico or Latin America. It is too soon to blow the whistle on inter-planetary migrationists IMHO.


LOL biggrin.gif

But seriously, the "rods" that have been photographed all look the same. Some are small and some are really huge as seen on that photo 7's post. They are just animal life forms that have not been scientifically "proven" mainly because nobody has ever been able to catch one. They are way to fast biggrin.gif

In that Nasa video, we are also seeing more animals , also never seen before. Just because they do not fit our "box" does not mean that they do not fit the box God placed them in. His creation is wonderful and He is in reality the only One who gets to enjoy its full wonder at the moment. One day, I am sure He will be laughing and showing us so many things that we never even thought about. Even 7 will have to say then: Oh dear God, I really thought they were aliens Lord LOL.

And God will laugh and say: "I know my son, at times you did say they weirdest things"
researcher
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 06:07 AM) *
QUOTE (researcher @ Jun 22 2008, 06:26 PM) *
Should be Jesus coming back in "chariots" out of the heavens and the armies of the world fight against Him and His armies

Isa 66:15 For, behold, Jehovah will come with fire, and his chariots shall be like the whirlwind; to render his anger with fierceness, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure.


Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat upon the horse, and against his army.

Chariots
Eze 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.


The a/c, beast etc is going to tell everyone it's an invasion apparently, so, the armies of the world will fight against who is coming down from the sky in "chariots" and on "horses".

Which is why you see so many movies today depicting anything coming from outside of the earth as being bad. Pre-conditioning so everyone will automatically assume when it happens, whoever it is will not be good. Last time I checked, horses can't fly, lol, or "chariots" for that matter. Our modern day chariots can though, F-16's, stealth bombers etc. I don't think they'll be a match for whatever the "armies" are on though. It'll be like a dogfight, in the sky. With missiles and rockets going off trying to take out whatever He and the armies are on. Should be interesting to see at least. blink.gif huh.gif smile.gif


I've heard this before from others and it makes perfect sense. Some have relayed that the reason the unified armies of the Earth go to battle with the Bride and Christ upon Their return is because the world will be convinced by the Antichrist that the invaders (the returning Jesus and the Bride) are aliens from another planet (creations of Satan) coming to invade the Earth, when in fact that will not be the case. See how the archaic Christian Worldview is going to feed the deception against themselves? And this will be the Church of the Tares that flourished with the Church of the Wheat, which by then will have already been taken out, for they will be the Bride returning with Christ.

-7


Yeah, it makes sense that that is what brings together the armies of the world. First comes the "sign," whatever that is. Could be the "chariots" and horses, dunno. 0_0 biggrin.gif

Mat 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Here's something from Habakkuk I'd never looked at.

Hab 3:1 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet, set to Shigionoth.
Hab 3:2 O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work in the midst of the years; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy.
Hab 3:3 God came from Teman, And the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, And the earth was full of his praise.
Hab 3:4 And his brightness was as the light; He had rays coming forth from his hand; And there was the hiding of his power.
Hab 3:5 Before him went the pestilence, And fiery bolts went forth at his feet.
Hab 3:6 He stood, and measured the earth; He beheld, and drove asunder the nations; And the eternal mountains were scattered; The everlasting hills did bow; His goings were as of old.
Hab 3:7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction; The curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
Hab 3:8 Was Jehovah displeased with the rivers? Was thine anger against the rivers, Or thy wrath against the sea, That thou didst ride upon thy horses, Upon thy chariots of salvation?
Hab 3:9 Thy bow was made quite bare; The oaths to the tribes were a sure word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
Hab 3:10 The mountains saw thee, and were afraid; The tempest of waters passed by; The deep uttered its voice, And lifted up its hands on high.
Hab 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation, At the light of thine arrows as they went, At the shining of thy glittering spear.
Hab 3:12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation; Thou didst thresh the nations in anger.
Hab 3:13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, For the salvation of thine anointed; Thou woundest the head out of the house of the wicked man, Laying bare the foundation even unto the neck. Selah.
Hab 3:14 Thou didst pierce with his own staves the head of his warriors: They came as a whirlwind to scatter me; Their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
Hab 3:15 Thou didst tread the sea with thy horses, The heap of mighty waters.
Hab 3:16 I heard, and my body trembled, My lips quivered at the voice; Rottenness entereth into my bones, and I tremble in my place; Because I must wait quietly for the day of trouble, For the coming up of the people that invadeth us.
Hab 3:17 For though the fig-tree shall not flourish, Neither shall fruit be in the vines; The labor of the olive shall fail, And the fields shall yield no food; The flock shall be cut off from the fold, And there shall be no herd in the stalls:
Hab 3:18 Yet I will rejoice in Jehovah, I will joy in the God of my salvation.
Hab 3:19 Jehovah, the Lord, is my strength; And he maketh my feet like hinds' feet, And will make me to walk upon my high places.

End of the world... Should be... pretty darn cool! LOL! biggrin.gif

--Forgot to add, Ezekiel 1 is probably is a description of what the chariots are. blink.gif Lol.

NIGHTMARE
End of the world... Should be... pretty darn cool! LOL! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Justice
Those who gloat in the Great Tribulation, will surely see and experience it. As you wish.
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 23 2008, 01:11 PM) *
Those who gloat in the Great Tribulation, will surely see and experience it. As you wish.


I dont think anyone gloating, its just a very exciting time we live in, and we are happy about the return of Christ: your not???
researcher
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Jun 23 2008, 09:03 AM) *
End of the world... Should be... pretty darn cool! LOL! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


LOL! Booyah! biggrin.gif
Justice
Word twister, wait till we have our beef, you and I.
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 23 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Word twister, wait till we have our beef, you and I.


are you cooking tonight?
Justice
Pray that I am not.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 08:57 AM) *
In your opinion....are the rods simply insects that are flying so fast they appear as a "rod" in that segment of film? If not what do you believe they are?



QUOTE (C @ Jun 23 2008, 12:42 PM) *
LOL biggrin.gif

But seriously, the "rods" that have been photographed all look the same. Some are small and some are really huge as seen on that photo 7's post. They are just animal life forms that have not been scientifically "proven" mainly because nobody has ever been able to catch one. They are way to fast biggrin.gif

In that Nasa video, we are also seeing more animals , also never seen before. Just because they do not fit our "box" does not mean that they do not fit the box God placed them in. His creation is wonderful and He is in reality the only One who gets to enjoy its full wonder at the moment. One day, I am sure He will be laughing and showing us so many things that we never even thought about. Even 7 will have to say then: Oh dear God, I really thought they were aliens Lord LOL.

And God will laugh and say: "I know my son, at times you did say they weirdest things"



According to Escamilla's research, the Rods undulate their flat form from tip to tip to propel themselves aerodynamically, which means they require atmosphere (air) to travel. This means they cannot be found in the vacuum of space. Escamilla has recorded various size Rods from a mere 3 feet to 2 and 7 miles long. They appear to be translucent membranic creatures. The Rods on Earth are not visible to the naked eye, and are only detectable by digital recorders that snap the imagery at a high resolution and at X amount of frames per second, which the human eye cannot do, but according to Escamilla, quick-witted birds appear to detect the creatures and dart out of their way.

The objects picked up by the Columbia swarming around the 12 mile long tether was recorded by a UV camera and were also not visible to the naked eye of the astronauts. The tether swarms appear to be intelligently navigated because they avoided collision despite the swarm concentration around the broken tether. If they are a life form as C suggests, perhaps that is a possibility, but they would be different from the earthbound Rods. The researchers that examine the UV video, though, have concluded the objects are vehicular in nature with Transdimensional capability, entering our 3-D reality and exiting it.

The Rods are confined to our 3-D reality.

-7

C
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 08:42 PM) *
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 08:57 AM) *
In your opinion....are the rods simply insects that are flying so fast they appear as a "rod" in that segment of film? If not what do you believe they are?



QUOTE (C @ Jun 23 2008, 12:42 PM) *
LOL biggrin.gif

But seriously, the "rods" that have been photographed all look the same. Some are small and some are really huge as seen on that photo 7's post. They are just animal life forms that have not been scientifically "proven" mainly because nobody has ever been able to catch one. They are way to fast biggrin.gif

In that Nasa video, we are also seeing more animals , also never seen before. Just because they do not fit our "box" does not mean that they do not fit the box God placed them in. His creation is wonderful and He is in reality the only One who gets to enjoy its full wonder at the moment. One day, I am sure He will be laughing and showing us so many things that we never even thought about. Even 7 will have to say then: Oh dear God, I really thought they were aliens Lord LOL.

And God will laugh and say: "I know my son, at times you did say they weirdest things"



According to Escamilla's research, the Rods undulate their flat form from tip to tip to propel themselves aerodynamically, which means they require atmosphere (air) to travel. This means they cannot be found in the vacuum of space. Escamilla has recorded various size Rods from a mere 3 feet to 2 and 7 miles long. They appear to be translucent membranic creatures. The Rods on Earth are not visible to the naked eye, and are only detectable by digital recorders that snap the imagery at a high resolution and at X amount of frames per second, which the human eye cannot do, but according to Escamilla, quick-witted birds appear to detect the creatures and dart out of their way.

The objects picked up by the Columbia swarming around the 12 mile long tether was recorded by a UV camera and were also not visible to the naked eye of the astronauts. The tether swarms appear to be intelligently navigated because they avoided collision despite the swarm concentration around the broken tether. If they are a life form as C suggests, perhaps that is a possibility, but they would be different from the earthbound Rods. The researchers that examine the UV video, though, have concluded the objects are vehicular in nature with Transdimensional capability, entering our 3-D reality and exiting it.

The Rods are confined to our 3-D reality.

-7


Cool smile.gif how many more things are there to discover on this planet. I think too many things to mention. I agree, the Rods are not the same species as the organisms that appeared in the NASA shots.

I have my doubts about what the researchers have found out, because they look at the same video as we do. We can clearly see different sizes (babies and mature adults) so they are growing like any other life form. Nothings stopped God from making them in this way. Its delightful smile.gif

C
GodspromisesRyes
We should keep somethings in mind.

First of all every culture around the world has their histories based in having had " gods"come from space and from other planets and teach them things etc...

Now we know that there are no other Gods but God but we also know that the enemy would like to be worshipped and they decieve.

If they have come in form to cultures since the beginning and allowed themselves to be worshipped then it is very likely that they will do that again in the end days to decieve for the last time all who do not love the truth.

We should also remember that in the beginning of the tribulation satan and his angels are cast down out of heaven for the final time. We assume this is a truth that we will not see in any form but MAYBE we will see it. Maybe they will use this time ( for Gods purpose) to decieve those who do not love the truth. All of the trumpets until 7 are about mountians(kingdom) and stars falling from heaven to the earth and causing problems or demons comming up out of the bottomless pit etc...

We should as believers in the Lord, be prepared for ANY sign or wonder, ANY being(s) ANYTHING SEEN that go against what we know to be the truth of our Lord Jesus Christ so that no matter what we see we DO NOT WALK BY SIGHT AND BE DECIEVED!

It is true that many many christians do not give any room to think such things are possible and sadly IF they do not love the truth and IF they still walk by sight, they may be decieved by SEEING such things.
Levite-7
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 22 2008, 12:18 PM) *
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Jun 22 2008, 02:07 PM) *
you said: Not recommended for the faint Christian Bible-Thumper who believes ONLY in quaint little Bible stories.


you said:
quaint little Bible stories.


my response:
you've revealed what you think of the WORD OF GOD...............you've rejected the scripture


You're PSYCHO.

I was describing the SHALLOW CHRISTIAN MENTALITY that YOU HAVE.

hi~

dennis mann makes a valid point. your viewpoint of "bible-thumper" speaks clearly of one of two things - either you read the Word & have rejected the truth that is from the LORD, or you're attempting to justify what's going on around you without knowing the Word.

one faithful to the Word of the LORD is not psycho.

more-so, the LORD created the earth, the animals, & man after His image & likeness & woman from the rib of man. aliens are not part of that design. of a truth, what you see & research is the works of men under the dominion of the devil, & all it takes is a little homework & deductive reasoning to figure that one out. do not be deceived by the works of the devil's children.

~levite-7
dennis mann

THERE ARE NO ETs mentioned in the Creation account.

no martians

no animals in outer space

just birds of air, fish of seas, land animals, creeping animals, man

no ETs

no martians







Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
whirlwind
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 12:42 PM) *
According to Escamilla's research, the Rods undulate their flat form from tip to tip to propel themselves aerodynamically, which means they require atmosphere (air) to travel. This means they cannot be found in the vacuum of space. Escamilla has recorded various size Rods from a mere 3 feet to 2 and 7 miles long. They appear to be translucent membranic creatures. The Rods on Earth are not visible to the naked eye, and are only detectable by digital recorders that snap the imagery at a high resolution and at X amount of frames per second, which the human eye cannot do, but according to Escamilla, quick-witted birds appear to detect the creatures and dart out of their way.

The objects picked up by the Columbia swarming around the 12 mile long tether was recorded by a UV camera and were also not visible to the naked eye of the astronauts. The tether swarms appear to be intelligently navigated because they avoided collision despite the swarm concentration around the broken tether. If they are a life form as C suggests, perhaps that is a possibility, but they would be different from the earthbound Rods. The researchers that examine the UV video, though, have concluded the objects are vehicular in nature with Transdimensional capability, entering our 3-D reality and exiting it.

The Rods are confined to our 3-D reality.

-7



Thank you 7.

When I first saw the video of the tether the "rods" didn't even cross my mind. However, what did was a program on "Dropa Stones." The dropa stones were shaped just as the "vehicles" swarming around the tether....same little wedge missing in the circular shape.


I didn't realize that the astronauts weren't able to see them. For some reason I thought they commented on them.
whirlwind
QUOTE (Levite-7 @ Jun 23 2008, 01:18 PM) *
hi~

dennis mann makes a valid point. your viewpoint of "bible-thumper" speaks clearly of one of two things - either you read the Word & have rejected the truth that is from the LORD, or you're attempting to justify what's going on around you without knowing the Word.

one faithful to the Word of the LORD is not psycho.

more-so, the LORD created the earth, the animals, & man after His image & likeness & woman from the rib of man. aliens are not part of that design. of a truth, what you see & research is the works of men under the dominion of the devil, & all it takes is a little homework & deductive reasoning to figure that one out. do not be deceived by the works of the devil's children.

~levite-7



When I see the expression...."Bible thumper" it means, to me, someone that just reads the outer layer and has no clue as to the depth contained therein. For instance....the word "rib" can also be translated as "curve." Could Eve have been taken from Adam's DNA - helix curve, instead of rib? It is something to consider.



THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 02:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Levite-7 @ Jun 23 2008, 01:18 PM) *
hi~

dennis mann makes a valid point. your viewpoint of "bible-thumper" speaks clearly of one of two things - either you read the Word & have rejected the truth that is from the LORD, or you're attempting to justify what's going on around you without knowing the Word.

one faithful to the Word of the LORD is not psycho.

more-so, the LORD created the earth, the animals, & man after His image & likeness & woman from the rib of man. aliens are not part of that design. of a truth, what you see & research is the works of men under the dominion of the devil, & all it takes is a little homework & deductive reasoning to figure that one out. do not be deceived by the works of the devil's children.

~levite-7



When I see the expression...."Bible thumper" it means, to me, someone that just reads the outer layer and has no clue as to the depth contained therein. For instance....the word "rib" can also be translated as "curve." Could Eve have been taken from Adam's DNA - helix curve, instead of rib? It is something to consider.


Whirlwind...

I agree with you regarding the term "Bible Thumper". In addition, a Bible Thumper rudely hits everyone over the head with the Bible in an ostentatious way, preaching their “surface mantra” like a mindless broken record possessed with an obsessive-compulsive regimented message (that they keep reposting), while a balanced Christian sees beyond the surface of the Word and discerns the multiplicity of the Scriptures, considering all possibilities.

-7
Levite-7
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 01:48 PM) *
For instance....the word "rib" can also be translated as "curve." Could Eve have been taken from Adam's DNA - helix curve, instead of rib? It is something to consider.

hi~

i'm sure to stay with the akjv translation that the LORD had a hand in keeping. smile.gif besides, the original point to this is that aliens are not part of the design of the LORD. more-so, the only creation that was created outside of the design of the LORD's plan were the giants that were smitten in the elder days. however, as in the days of Noe, so shall the days of the coming of the son of Man be. what man can create these days - especially with the right funding - can be a frightful thing.

would you like an alien? give me the right location, equipment, & funding & i'll genetically grow you one.

~levite-7
Here Am I
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Jun 23 2008, 07:23 AM) *
Yes, the Rods are certainly a true biological enigma; I've known about them since José Escamilla released his bewildering video tapes of them in the 90's when he captured them on digitized video (when this technology first came out) in the Cave of the Swallows in Mexico.

This is a very good point which I continually stress, we do not know the WHOLE STORY and ALL that IS. If people "think" they do, then they are deceived. Yet, we can see that these "Rod" life forms exist, and there is ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF THEM in the Bible. So this ridiculous primitive and archaic "MENTALITY" of "IF IT AIN'T IN THE BIBLE, THEN SATAN DID IT," becomes an obvious FALLACY.









-7




Viewing the rods in the pics reminded me of my own personal, close encounter. Let me explain my experience.

My husband and I were sitting at a state park picnic area about 2 feet from the edge of a lake. We noticed circles forming in the water, they were whiter in color compared to the rest of the lake. With our eyes fixed on the body of water, we both witnessed two rod-like entities which came from behind us, about a foot over our heads and dove into the water. I would describe them as being silvery-white; have a shiny steel-like appearance, about 12 to 15 inches long and about 1 inch thick; pliable as a worm yet having a determined destination. They were in perfect synch with each other, like two dolphins would perform at a Sea World show... best way I can describe them.

I cannot help wonder if there were more of them in the water, causing the circles to form... and when humans are in the water how can they affect them?

In the spiritual realm, there are entities all around us. I wonder if the chemicals being sprayed in the upper atmosphere are allowing certain of them to now be seen in the physical; like some insects which are almost invisible until they're sprayed with bug-spray and are covered in white foam. I've been on this earth over 50 years, but never witnessed anything like this until last year.


Interesting reading regarding fallen angels, demons and E.Ts:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...aliensindex.htm
dennis mann
in matthew 24, the 12 asked jesus ..........what will it be like in the endtimes?

jesus said 4 times.............don't be deceived....

deception is the MARK of the endtimes

believe the word of god...........no matter what you've seen and heard



how did the false religions get started ?
mormon and koran started with a miracle-revelation from an angel of god.........(but it was really a demon masquerading as an angel)

hindu brahmans enjoy astral travel, and they talk with pleasant hindu gods (demons)

native americans (and others) have spirit-guides (demons)

shamans go into trance/hallucination/vision,,,,,,,,,,,,and get info from the spirit-woprld (demons)

Baptist deacons water-witch for their church members, to find a good place to drill a well for water..........this is divination,,,,,,,,,,demons provide the info..........(water-dowsing),,,,,,,,or dousing

i could go on and on and on


the world is filled with the occult,,,,,,,,,,,,,some threads on this forum are filled with occult

StormEagle
I think the main thing here is...what does the UFO or ET do when you cut to the chase?

In the end, I caused people to take their eyes off God and focus on another source of Intelligence, power, and answers. And in the end, that is what Satan is all about. What can he do to get you to look elsewhere. It doesn't matter where or what, just somewhere other than God. If you have to try too hard to press it into the "God" mold, then chances are, it really isn't of God. If it's real (and I'm inclined to believe that Satan / AC can use this to bring an end to hunger, world peace, ect...) than it can be an amazing deception, especially when confronted with the physical manifestation of a UFO. I do not doubt they may exist...but where does their power derive from?
raysondawn
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 01:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Levite-7 @ Jun 23 2008, 01:18 PM) *
hi~

dennis mann makes a valid point. your viewpoint of "bible-thumper" speaks clearly of one of two things - either you read the Word & have rejected the truth that is from the LORD, or you're attempting to justify what's going on around you without knowing the Word.

one faithful to the Word of the LORD is not psycho.

more-so, the LORD created the earth, the animals, & man after His image & likeness & woman from the rib of man. aliens are not part of that design. of a truth, what you see & research is the works of men under the dominion of the devil, & all it takes is a little homework & deductive reasoning to figure that one out. do not be deceived by the works of the devil's children.

~levite-7



When I see the expression...."Bible thumper" it means, to me, someone that just reads the outer layer and has no clue as to the depth contained therein. For instance....the word "rib" can also be translated as "curve." Could Eve have been taken from Adam's DNA - helix curve, instead of rib? It is something to consider.


You are hitting it right on Whirlwind. I believe that "curve" a refrence to the helix. is the proper translation. I often wonder if there is any relation of the word "rib" and "ribe" from whence we get the word 'ribsome" or another words "root"? It just so happens that the richest source of DNA is in the rib-bones.
Yah formed Adam from the dust of the ground, but from the man he literally genetically "cloned" or built the woman from the DNA material present in Adam. The Lord took the material and probably threw the rib away! So in addition to being the first surgeon ever he also was the first genetic engineer. Though I must say he did a much better job than Monsanto.


THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Of course, we should be focused on Christ; those of us grounded in scripture are and as a result can tackle these fringe topics without any harm or unraveling of our firm Faith. However, in busily witch hunting for heretics the Bible-Hell-Bent-Christian runs the risk of "practicing the presence of the Demonic Nature" and overlooks that he/she has actually and unwittingly become galvanized with a FALSE CHRISTIANITY governed by Satan. We know this from history, from the Spanish Inquisition, the Branch Davidian Cult, etc., all in the precious name of God and Christ they claim their actions against those who dare to step out of the boundaries of the Holy Scripture. This is genuine religious lunacy as demostrated by some on this very thread.

-7
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