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chrio39
I was in my backyard and my nephew (who is saved and knows much about the church and it's workings, though he struggles with addictions) was there as well. Next to the house, or the fence, I can't remember which, was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered.

When I knelt next to it, I noticed that it had grown some new growth and had a gold or yellow flower that was shaped like a trumpet facing the ground. Because it was a pretty flower about the size of a quart jar on a small stump of a plant I chose not to kill it. As I knealt there it began to grow before my eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Within seconds it was growing at the rate of about an inch per second. I called my nephew over and excitedly showed my nephew, who I've been discipling for a few years (his dad died years ago). He was as astounded as I was. You could hear it grow, sort of like the sound of tightly twisting a rope. Before long it was huge, like a great oak, standing out from the rest and covered with these golden trumpet shaped flowers. The dream ended and I awoke. What was strange is that I woke extremely groggy, but vividly recalled the dream, though normally I have to wake up alert to remember a dream.

I believe the dream is prophetic of sudden, phenominal growth of (some of) the church. I also believe that the dream is full of symbolism with meaning, and that it is about many more than just me. I hope for it to represent myself also. I wouldn't want to miss out.

Messiahiscoming
Wow what an awesome dream! Whew.... how I would love to be included with you in that sudden, phenominal growth! Amazing that you could hear it grow! That is something. smile.gif I felt such a peace and hope that flooded over me as I began to read.... Thanks for sharing!

In Christ,
Valerie
Messiahiscoming

HeIsFaithful
Dear Father, Make it so! to the Glory of our Lord and Saviour!!
Miki
There was a large Foxglove growing next to the wood shed. My husband liked it and was protecting it. When someone came to re-stack the wood pile that had fallen, they trampled the Foxglove. We thought it was gone but it came back with many stems. The flower hasn't bloomed yet but it will have many pink trumpet shaped flowers. Two things are blooming. The fox has gloves to cover his finger prints..



The Foxglove is a wildflower.

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Digitalis is a genus of about 20 species of herbaceous perennials, shrubs, and biennials that are commonly called foxgloves. The genus was traditionally placed in the figwort family Scrophulariaceae, but upon review of phylogenetic research, it has now been placed in the much enlarged family Plantaginaceae.[1] The genus is native to Europe, western and central Asia, and northwestern Africa. The scientific name means "finger-like" and refers to the ease with which a flower of Digitalis purpurea can be fitted over a human fingertip. The flowers are produced on a tall spike, are tubular, and vary in colour with species, from purple to pink, white, and yellow. The best-known species is the Common Foxglove, Digitalis purpurea. It is a biennial, often grown as an ornamental plant due to its showy flowers, that range in colour from purples through to whites, with variable marks and spotting. The first year of growth produces only the long, basal leaves. In the second year, the erect leafy stem 0.5-2.5 m tall develops. The larvae of the Foxglove Pug feed on the flowers of Digitalis purpurea. Other Lepidoptera species feed on the leaves including Lesser Yellow Underwing.

The term digitalis is also used for preparations containing cardiac glycosides, particularly digoxin, extracted from plants of this genus.


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Medicines from foxgloves are called "Digitalin". The use of Digitalis purpurea extract containing cardiac glycosides for the treatment of heart conditions was first described by William Withering, in 1785, which is considered the beginning of modern therapeutics (Silverman)[2][3] It is used to increase cardiac contractility (it is a positive inotrope) and as an antiarrhythmic agent to control the heart rate, particularly in the irregular (and often fast) atrial fibrillation. It is therefore often prescribed for patients in atrial fibrillation, especially if they have been diagnosed with heart failure.


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Toxicity

Digitalis purpurea drawings by Franz KöhlerDepending on the species, the digitalis plant may contain several deadly physiological and chemically related cardiac and steroidal glycosides. Thus, the digitalis has earned several more sinister monikers: Dead Man’s Bells, and Witches’ Gloves.

The entire plant is poisonous (including the roots and seeds), although the leaves of the upper stem are particularly potent, with just a nibble being enough to potentially cause death.


The reason l bring this up is because your dream was like a real life experience. What was cut off is now huge... In fact... the person who knocked it down in the first place is somewhat of a fox himself.

But l go back to this.. There are two things coming in bloom.

A little digitalis can save someones life. A little chastisement can too.
jhamner
That IS a nice dream, David. smile.gif Praise the LORD!
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flyingsquirrel
I went for a walk this morning before I read this post and saw some foxglove growing wild...

The trumpet shape of the flowers reminds me of a prophet acting as a sentinel, blowing the trumpet of warning, there maybe a blossoming of prophets and prophetesses sounding the alarm for the Last Days
Roxygal
Wow David...that was wonderful! I could picture it perfectly! Oh Lord yes make it so for all of us!!! AMEN!

Love to you brother!
Lisa
Justice
David, you have witnessed the explosive growth of God's True Church in the Last Days. It is what you have been doing? =)
Spirit Filled One
QUOTE (chrio39 @ Jun 20 2008, 12:27 AM) *
I was in my backyard and my nephew (who is saved and knows much about the church and it's workings, though he struggles with addictions) was there as well. Next to the house, or the fence, I can't remember which, was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered.

When I knelt next to it, I noticed that it had grown some new growth and had a gold or yellow flower that was shaped like a trumpet facing the ground. Because it was a pretty flower about the size of a quart jar on a small stump of a plant I chose not to kill it. As I knealt there it began to grow before my eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Within seconds it was growing at the rate of about an inch per second. I called my nephew over and excitedly showed my nephew, who I've been discipling for a few years (his dad died years ago). He was as astounded as I was. You could hear it grow, sort of like the sound of tightly twisting a rope. Before long it was huge, like a great oak, standing out from the rest and covered with these golden trumpet shaped flowers. The dream ended and I awoke. What was strange is that I woke extremely groggy, but vividly recalled the dream, though normally I have to wake up alert to remember a dream.

I believe the dream is prophetic of sudden, phenominal growth of (some of) the church. I also believe that the dream is full of symbolism with meaning, and that it is about many more than just me. I hope for it to represent myself also. I wouldn't want to miss out.


David,
Let me first say that I do not know your nephew or where he is at in repenting of this sin.
But with that said, this is what the Lord has truly given to me to write.

The very first thing in your dream is that your nephew is in it with you and you say that he is saved and yet he struggles with addictions.

When I saw this I thought of a brother in Christ that talks about Christians that smoke cigarettes or that do things that bring disease to their bodies (that He reminds them are the Temple of the Holy Spirit) and that they refuse to repent of these things, but that they “struggle” with these sins. Next thing is that the “weed” is growing next to the house or the fence and someone had previously tried to chop it off and yet it came back.

The “weed” is the True Word of the Gospel and the fact that it has been previously chopped off and is not wanted, just like a weed, is showing us what the majority of the church is trying to do when it comes to obeying the Gospel of Christ, Jesus tells us to not be a part of the things in the world and to crucify this flesh and follow Him, by contrast, the majority of the church wants nothing to do with this Truth of Jesus and and so they try to cut it off and remove it.

So they say things like I “struggle” with this sin (that very truthfully they refuse to repent of or completely turn from) and take no heed that Jesus said “whatever a man sows, that shall he reap”.

Next is the fact that the weed is growing near the house or the fence.

The house is the Christian and the fence is Christ because though scripture, this body is called a house (Matthew 12:44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. & Matt 7:24 I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock)

(And Jesus is the gate, in this case the fence - Matthew 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate)

And as the truth of the Gospel (the trumpet weed) begins to become clear and gets close to many believers (house) and also once again begins to declare who Christ truly is and not just who they make Him out to be to suit themselves, they cut off that truth and are left with their own version of the gospel. Just like the Scribes and Pharisees did 2000
Years ago, they fulfilled the scripture in Daniel which says Dan 9:26
“ And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;


They cut Jesus off and killed Him just as many today want to cut off the Truth as they create for themselves their own version of what they want Messiah to be as they say that it is okay to live as you want to live and have “struggles” or simply be unrepentant as you live in sin.

The next thing that happens is that the “trumpets” (WOW, Trumpets!!) are pointing to the ground!! And in Revelation, I have learned that the “ground” or the “earth” represents those that think that they are in the faith, but instead are in false doctrine and man-made religion.
In Revelation there is Heaven and the earth and the sea. Heaven is those that are in Christ,
The earth is those that think that they are in Christ and the sea is those that have never professed to know Christ.

(Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”)

So, the Trumpet, which is a representation of the seven trumpets being blown in warning of the Lord’s return and of His wrath, are pointing to the ground/earth because it is those that say they know Him and do not keep His commandments (1 John 2:4) that will be beaten with many stripes according to Luke 12:47-48 - And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.

(These here in Luke that did not know and yet committed things deserving of stripes is represented in Revelation by the sea)

This whole dream blows my mind because it is so much from the Lord and as soon as I was reading it, I knew that the Lord wanted me to write this.
Praise His Name.

In Christ alone,
Chris

chrio39
Thanks for all of your comments. And Chris, I knew the trumpets pointing toward the ground was significant, but I didn't know how. Thanks so much for your entire intepretation, I do believe that it is correct, though I didn't have a clue before I read it on most of what you wrote. I bore witness of all of it as I read it.

Justice, I agree that it is the explosive growth of the church, and yes it is happening with me, but not like what I saw in the dream. But like Val and Lisa, I too am excited!

Yes, trumpets are exciting, golden trumpets no less! A chorus of prophetic voices warning in unison, that yesterday weren't ready!

And Miki, foxglove..., reminds me of the trees whose leaves are for the healing of the nations, dealing with the heart.
Miki
and yet there's this warning...

But we won't drink the whole cup.

Chris says...(Great job by the way)

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The house is the Christian and the fence is Christ because though scripture, this body is called a house (Matthew 12:44 Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. & Matt 7:24


45... Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last [state] of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. Seven spirits, seven trumpets, seven years.

When and if we really repent we are kept. If we turn back...even if we call it "struggling" the Lord tells us the end result... seven worse spring up.

The young man that crushed the top off the flower
(at the edge of the woodshed ((symbolic of chastisement))

is a friend of my son. He is trying to live the good life. He's supposedly turned from his old ways..(drugs and who knows what else) My son has taken him under his wing sort of... I've been wondering if he's truly turned away... Or just a fox...

This should be a clear warning and it is to me.... about being lukewarm...rationalizing and saying we are "struggling" with sin ... all the while believing a lie. "I just can't seem to get free of this" is the lie.

What l'm saying about the fox glove is that it's timing is now and here. It's a deadly plant. So are the awful things that are coming on this earth. But the chastisement will be the cure for many a fence sitter.

Just like digitalis in fox glove is a remedy for many a heart ailment. This is the carefully measured chastisement the Lord will bring on many before the rapture of the church.

David...that young man needs to know how fast weeds grow. We want to all think of this in a positive light. And we should because when the enemy comes in like a flood God lifts up a standard against him. So there are two things shown. But it's not all happy and light. Two things.

jhamner
Chris, what an interpretation!!!! Thank you so much brother, for sharing it with us.

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Miki


This is the fire of repentence. It is burning just outside my woodshed.

The foxglove grew up just to the left of it.

If you don't completely turn now....
Spirit Filled One
Praise God.

I woke up this morning thinking of this deam and that there is so very much in it.

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As I knealt there it began to grow before my eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Within seconds it was growing at the rate of about an inch per second. I called my nephew over and excitedly showed my nephew, who I've been discipling for a few years (his dad died years ago). He was as astounded as I was. You could hear it grow, sort of like the sound of tightly twisting a rope. Before long it was huge, like a great oak, standing out from the rest and covered with these golden trumpet shaped flowers.


You said that you couldnt believe what you were seeing because within seconds the plant was growing at an incredible rate. And that you could "hear" it grow.

Jesus was always saying things like Mark 4:23 "If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”
and Luke 8:8 "But others fell on good ground, sprang up, and yielded a crop a hundredfold.” When He had said these things He cried, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

The fact that you both see and hear this plant says so much, it is again like the scribes and the pharisees that are spoken of in Isaiah 6:9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people:


‘ Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’
10 “ Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears
,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”

This is also something that is happening right now with so much "easy believism" going on everywhere as people/the earth/false converts refuse to hear the Truth or see the sign of the times.

The rapid rate of growth is synonymous with how things unfold in the end and that the rate at which they unfold is like labor pains which are more rapid / frequent
1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.


In Christ alone,
Chris
chrio39
That is interesting Chris but I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you saying the rapid growth, both heard and seen speaks of easy believeism? I don't get the connection though I do understand the individual components of your post.
Spirit Filled One
QUOTE (chrio39 @ Jun 22 2008, 12:44 AM) *
That is interesting Chris but I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you saying the rapid growth, both heard and seen speaks of easy believeism? I don't get the connection though I do understand the individual components of your post.



No not at all, Im simply saying that in this dream, you heard a plant growing! That seems pretty symbolic of what Jesus tells us when He says "He that has an ear, let him hear"
There are those with ears that can not hear and eyes that can not see, but there are some that can see the end of the prophecy of Christ unfolding right before us and then there are those that are saying "peace and safety"..

The night before last, I was in a conversation with some "believers" in my home that told me:
"people have been saying that Christ is returning for many years, so where is he?"
These people were saying "everything is fine and goes on as it has always" or "peace and safety".

The fact that you actually "heard" a plant growing!! Think of how very odd that is, unless there is meaning behind it that speaks to something important or that just further underscores what Jesus said about hearing (or the fact that only some are able to hear) and discerning the times.

In Christ alone,
Chris
chrio39
I understand. I guess it is pretty fantastic indeed. I must admit that this dream excites me. But I don't trust myself to stay close enough to Jesus at all times to qualify for what I believe is the phenominal growth.

The more I grow in Him the more aware I am of my shortcommings, and the potential costs of falling short.
Justice
QUOTE (Miki @ Jun 21 2008, 02:44 PM) *


This is the fire of repentence. It is burning just outside my woodshed.

The foxglove grew up just to the left of it.

If you don't completely turn now....


I always saw it as a ripped out heart.
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (chrio39 @ Jun 20 2008, 01:27 AM) *
I was in my backyard and my nephew (who is saved and knows much about the church and it's workings, though he struggles with addictions) was there as well. Next to the house, or the fence, I can't remember which, was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered.

When I knelt next to it, I noticed that it had grown some new growth and had a gold or yellow flower that was shaped like a trumpet facing the ground. Because it was a pretty flower about the size of a quart jar on a small stump of a plant I chose not to kill it. As I knealt there it began to grow before my eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Within seconds it was growing at the rate of about an inch per second. I called my nephew over and excitedly showed my nephew, who I've been discipling for a few years (his dad died years ago). He was as astounded as I was. You could hear it grow, sort of like the sound of tightly twisting a rope. Before long it was huge, like a great oak, standing out from the rest and covered with these golden trumpet shaped flowers. The dream ended and I awoke. What was strange is that I woke extremely groggy, but vividly recalled the dream, though normally I have to wake up alert to remember a dream.

I believe the dream is prophetic of sudden, phenominal growth of (some of) the church. I also believe that the dream is full of symbolism with meaning, and that it is about many more than just me. I hope for it to represent myself also. I wouldn't want to miss out.






http://www.wildmanstevebrill.com/Plants.Fo.../Jewelweed.html

The trumpet-shaped flower . . . ( see photos of the yellow trumpet flower, called : Spotted JewelWeed )


This dream key is the oak tree.

The symbolic growing of the oak, is representing the balance in life. The
balance of spiritual matters. The balance of earth issues.

The two lessons of oak, are opposite type lessons :
virtue = devotion
vice = pride

The oak has symbolic context to mother and child, mentor and student.

The oak is linked to archangel Raphael.
The wings of this angel represent the rising above limitations. The word
`seed` in the angel, is linking the growth of the quick growing oak into blooming
yellow tree flowers.

Meaning the divine seed, that continues to grow over time.

Now, I posted a yellow type flower, link. See above ^. . .

Not that this looks like the flower you saw, however, I looked at the flower
at this link and then I knew that the continuance of the yellow meaning
knowledge, doors of opportunity, cycle of life . . .
dennis mann
I HAVE A BULK GASOLINE TANK.......on a stand about 5 feet off the ground.....over the last few years, trumpet vines have gradually covered it, with vines

recently, i noticed, it is covered with rank growth of vines,,,,,,,,,,,volunteer growth of "weeds"............trumpet vines are widespread (common) in my area

yesterday, i stopped to look at the blooms on it ............the first time i had ever noticed blooms on it

large thrifty orange, yellow trumpets...............blooms, flowers



farmers have often told me that when corn is growing,,,,,,,,in good conditions,,,,,,,,if you're quiet and still,,,,,,,,you can hear the corn growing (popping) as it grows rapidly in ideal growing conditions

jesus said..........i am the vine, ye are the branches

Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Joh 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Joh 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Miki
Good eye dennis..





Orange sounds like a warning to me...

dennis mann
some people are allergic to TRUMPET VINE,,,,,,,,,so be careful out there!
Earendel
QUOTE (chrio39 @ Jun 20 2008, 01:27 AM) *
I was in my backyard and my nephew (who is saved and knows much about the church and it's workings, though he struggles with addictions) was there as well. Next to the house, or the fence, I can't remember which, was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered.

When I knelt next to it, I noticed that it had grown some new growth and had a gold or yellow flower that was shaped like a trumpet facing the ground. Because it was a pretty flower about the size of a quart jar on a small stump of a plant I chose not to kill it. As I knealt there it began to grow before my eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Within seconds it was growing at the rate of about an inch per second. I called my nephew over and excitedly showed my nephew, who I've been discipling for a few years (his dad died years ago). He was as astounded as I was. You could hear it grow, sort of like the sound of tightly twisting a rope. Before long it was huge, like a great oak, standing out from the rest and covered with these golden trumpet shaped flowers. The dream ended and I awoke. What was strange is that I woke extremely groggy, but vividly recalled the dream, though normally I have to wake up alert to remember a dream.

I believe the dream is prophetic of sudden, phenominal growth of (some of) the church. I also believe that the dream is full of symbolism with meaning, and that it is about many more than just me. I hope for it to represent myself also. I wouldn't want to miss out.



...who blows the trumpet in Zion? ...the one to whom it is given:

Joel 2:1 - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...amp;version=50;

Perhaps the weed that was chopped are christians, God pruning His garden...perhaps a person who was not accepted by his peers and considered a weed, and who may have gone away from the Lord. But the Lord remembered His chosen vessel, and from the the tree(weed) that was pruned by the Hand of God grew the trumpet of Zion. God will raise His own army of people of His own choosing...
ReadGOD'SWord
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SpiritFilledOne wrote: The “weed” is the True Word of the Gospel and the fact that it has been previously chopped off and is not wanted, just like a weed, is showing us what the majority of the church is trying to do when it comes to obeying the Gospel of Christ, Jesus tells us to not be a part of the things in the world and to crucify this flesh and follow Him, by contrast, the majority of the church wants nothing to do with this Truth of Jesus and and so they try to cut it off and remove it.


Chrio39, You stated that you agreed with the interpretation given by SpiritFilledOne. I am curious as to why you would agree that the "weed" is the true word of God. The true word of God does not have good things to say about weeds.

Here is what the true word of God says about weeds:
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares (weeds) are the children of the wicked one;

Do a search on weeds in the Bible and see what comes up. By what you have shared the Lord revealed to you that this plant was indeed a "weed". This is the foundation of the meaning of your dream. This speaks of something that is of the evil one. Something that was brought under control but has come back to life again, stronger and faster growing. Also I will agree that the golden trumpet flowers on this weed are bringing a message however they are pointed at the ground. If the message of these "weed" trumpets were from God then why are they facing the ground and not pointed up for all to hear what is coming from them. There is more to this dream the Lord has given you......

Just some things to think on....
Earendel
QUOTE (ReadGOD'SWord @ Jul 19 2008, 02:55 PM) *
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SpiritFilledOne wrote: The “weed” is the True Word of the Gospel and the fact that it has been previously chopped off and is not wanted, just like a weed, is showing us what the majority of the church is trying to do when it comes to obeying the Gospel of Christ, Jesus tells us to not be a part of the things in the world and to crucify this flesh and follow Him, by contrast, the majority of the church wants nothing to do with this Truth of Jesus and and so they try to cut it off and remove it.


Chrio39, You stated that you agreed with the interpretation given by SpiritFilledOne. I am curious as to why you would agree that the "weed" is the true word of God. The true word of God does not have good things to say about weeds.

Here is what the true word of God says about weeds:
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares (weeds) are the children of the wicked one;

Do a search on weeds in the Bible and see what comes up. By what you have shared the Lord revealed to you that this plant was indeed a "weed". This is the foundation of the meaning of your dream. This speaks of something that is of the evil one. Something that was brought under control but has come back to life again, stronger and faster growing. Also I will agree that the golden trumpet flowers on this weed are bringing a message however they are pointed at the ground. If the message of these "weed" trumpets were from God then why are they facing the ground and not pointed up for all to hear what is coming from them. There is more to this dream the Lord has given you......

Just some things to think on....



Just some more things to think on...

A Christian in the eyes of the world, and indeed to satan are but weeds in his garden (the world that is), but to God are chosen and elect. For a long time the Christian elect have been trodden under foot and cut down by the world and false bretheren as some sort of parasite or weed, but the day is at hand when we will rise and rule the world with our Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord, and our God, who saved us from the destruction that is soon coming on this world... the day in which Babylon the Great is destroyed (that is to say the rule of man on Earth is coming to end)...very soon now. So in satans garden we are weeds, but in God's garden we are elect and holy. God prunes us (disciplines/corrects) so that we are even more fruitful.
peacemaker
I really liked this dream, I had to look up that flower, sweet! Thanks for telling us the dream, brother, G-d can help us all grow, and it well be unforgetable the sound we hear from that growth in our lives. A great reminder!

Hugs!
ReadGOD'SWord
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Just some more things to think on...

A Christian in the eyes of the world, and indeed to satan are but weeds in his garden (the world that is), but to God are chosen and elect. For a long time the Christian elect have been trodden under foot and cut down by the world and false bretheren as some sort of parasite or weed, but the day is at hand when we will rise and rule the world with our Saviour Jesus Christ our Lord, and our God, who saved us from the destruction that is soon coming on this world... the day in which Babylon the Great is destroyed (that is to say the rule of man on Earth is coming to end)...very soon now. So in satans garden we are weeds, but in God's garden we are elect and holy. God prunes us (disciplines/corrects) so that we are even more fruitful.



That sounds very interesting but i do believe this was a word for Chrio39 from God. When a word is given to someone in a dream or vision from GOD we must look for the symbolism in GOD'S Word only. The Word of GOD is very clear on what the "weed" is:

Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares (weeds) are the children of the wicked one;


We are only to concern ourselves with what GOD is saying and how HE sees us and situations in our lives, not how the world or how satan sees us.
freedom
Interesting dream. What I find facinating is the golden trumpet flower and that it is pointed toward the ground. I believe that there is much more to this dream's interpretation. Please remember, gold was used to cover the holy of holies. A trumpet sounds an alarm. The ground, reminds me of two things, a place that we bury our dead, and new life which comes each spring. The fact that this flower grew out of a weed, is telling you something is amiss. The fact that it grows quickly, and has a huge flower, can be a deception. I have to say that I am in agreement with ReadGod'sWord, on the scripture that was given, in Matthew 13:38. Please pray about these things.
peacemaker
Now, I must point out something here. There are some that are fully believers that there are things like weeds, that truely arent weeks. I have heard it said that a week is something that is planted amiss, or not by plaining by human hands. So, it would be like seeing and fruit tree coming up in a rose garden, the rose lover that only wanted roses there would up that fruit tree up comepletely with out worry about how wrong that might be. Where others would look at that, as food that would feed others, so it stays, and than G-d for it. I think that the flowering tree was thought to be a weed at first, until he was able to see it for what it really was and didnt remove it. Seeing it grow fast is like G-d uppening ones eyes up to seeing truth, clearer than befor, and helping one get over things faster than what we though it should rightfully take.

Weeds on the other hand, arent useful for much, normally eatten, and can cause harm to those things that are normally healthy.

See the trumpet tree...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/245319..._38655d8c35.jpg

Dose it look like a weed? NO! It is a tree that grow as strong as an oak tree would have been. The trumpet flowers shows a promise here to the ground!

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.




This is what I feel it is saying, the trumpets pointing down, to the earth is it butting out a call!

Hugs!
ReadGOD'SWord
QUOTE (peacemaker @ Jul 19 2008, 10:33 PM) *
Now, I must point out something here. There are some that are fully believers that there are things like weeds, that truely arent weeks. I have heard it said that a week is something that is planted amiss, or not by plaining by human hands. So, it would be like seeing and fruit tree coming up in a rose garden, the rose lover that only wanted roses there would up that fruit tree up comepletely with out worry about how wrong that might be. Where others would look at that, as food that would feed others, so it stays, and than G-d for it. I think that the flowering tree was thought to be a weed at first, until he was able to see it for what it really was and didnt remove it. Seeing it grow fast is like G-d uppening ones eyes up to seeing truth, clearer than befor, and helping one get over things faster than what we though it should rightfully take.

Weeds on the other hand, arent useful for much, normally eatten, and can cause harm to those things that are normally healthy.

See the trumpet tree...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/245319..._38655d8c35.jpg

Dose it look like a weed? NO! It is a tree that grow as strong as an oak tree would have been. The trumpet flowers shows a promise here to the ground!

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.




This is what I feel it is saying, the trumpets pointing down, to the earth is it butting out a call!

Hugs!


The backyard and the fact that Chrio39 mentioned that in the dream the weed he thought someone had previously chopped off had not died but instead recovered, is all pointing to something that has returned to grow stronger and faster. Chrio39 revealed this to be a weed. The Word of GOD is clear on what a weed is. Possibly Chrio39, if led could pray and ask the Lord to clarify whether this was a weed or not.
Spirit Filled One
Clearing up the term weed..

First, Its probably best to make it clear that as I discuss things about the "fallen away" church, Im in refenence to those that say they know the Lord, but have gone after a different gospel.

The True church, is still the true church, however small it may be.


With that said,
Here is a quote from the dream:

QUOTE
was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered


chrio said that it was a weed "he thought".
What is important is that is really isnt a weed, but that it was thought to be a weed.
The "True Gospel" today is looked at by so much of the church as an unwanted weed that must somehow be cut off and extinguished, instead of the beautiful fruit producing vine that is truly is.
So in this sense, things are not looked at the way they once were in the church.


Last night I went to a "christian" youth event with my 12 yr old daughter.

This event is held at the same place every friday night and is hosted by a local church (one that I do not attend).

The last time that I was there I noticed a video game that the kids were playing that was called "guitar hero".

As I watched the kids playing this game, Inoticed that the music was 1970's and 80's hard rock music and the pictures on the video screen were filled with animated "demons" playing guitars!!

I said something about it while I was there, but was ignored. When I returned home, I e-mailed the head pastor of the church and explained how terribly wrong and evil this was to have there.
He e-mailed back to me saying that he would look into it.
Well, last night when I returned, there was that game, still waiting to devour some child!


As I was there, I spotted a "christian" man that I know from a church in the area. (The church is a pentecostal church) He came over and started talking with me and asked me what I do for a living.
I said "I preach the word of GOD" He just looked at me kinda funny and I felt as if I should explain.

SO I began to explain that at one time, I was an antique dealer, but the Lord made me to realize how it was simply a life of covetousness and so I no longer have anything to do with it and now I preach the word in homeless shelters and street corners and wherever the Lord wants me to.

He began to tell me how he disagreed with what I said, about collecting antiques and that it was just covetousness. I began to give scripture verses like "whoever desires to be My disciple, let him deny himself, pick up his cross and follow Me", also: "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

He argued that the Lord knows the heart and that having a large and valuable antique collection does not mean that you are not a Christian.

Well, while I do believe that God can save anyone that He wants to, I also know that "the birds of the air had nests and the foxes had holes, but the Son of man had no place to lay His head"

And that Jesus was homeless and that He told us to not store treasures up for ourselves here on this earth but to store our treasure in heaven etc, etc, etc...

Which brings me to today, this morning, I went to a homeless shelter in Norristown, PA and as some brothers and sisters in Christ gave out eggs and bacon, I gave the Word of the Lord.

After the message, a man came up to me and said, "I agree with everything that you preached except the part about having faith in Christ and living in sin and then going to hell if you died in that sin, simply because a person might have been weak and lived in sin while he also believed in Christ".................This man believed that if yo believe in Jesus, you can do anything that you want as long as yo truly believe in Christ, it just meant that when you got to heaven, you may not get as many rewards????

Can you see this pattern of false gospels that so many are holding on to today???

The greater portion of the "church" has no real idea what the TRUE Gospel message is!!

They are so lost in half truths and lies that they are truly lost and perishing for a lack of knowledge.

Part of it is the fault of the preachers today that absolutely refuse to define what sin is in an uncomprimising way. But the other part is that unfortuneately, so many love the sin that they are in and do not want to seek the True Kingdom of God.

(This is where I make it clear that Im so thankful to the Lord for His mercy in my own life)

So, what I see is that there is a beautiful vine that is growing right in the midst of this "church",
but the church keeps getting out the weed killer......


In Christ alone,
Chris
ReadGOD'SWord
QUOTE (SpiritFilledOne @ Jul 20 2008, 12:22 AM) *
Clearing up the term weed..

First, Its probably best to make it clear that as I discuss things about the "fallen away" church, Im in refenence to those that say they know the Lord, but have gone after a different gospel.

The True church, is still the true church, however small it may be.


With that said,
Here is a quote from the dream:

QUOTE
was a weed (I thought) that someone had previously chopped off yet in the weeks since it had somewhat recovered


chrio said that it was a weed "he thought".
What is important is that is really isnt a weed, but that it was thought to be a weed.
The "True Gospel" today is looked at by so much of the church as an unwanted weed that must somehow be cut off and extinguished, instead of the beautiful fruit producing vine that is truly is.
So in this sense, things are not looked at the way they once were in the church.


Last night I went to a "christian" youth event with my 12 yr old daughter.

This event is held at the same place every friday night and is hosted by a local church (one that I do not attend).

The last time that I was there I noticed a video game that the kids were playing that was called "guitar hero".

As I watched the kids playing this game, Inoticed that the music was 1970's and 80's hard rock music and the pictures on the video screen were filled with animated "demons" playing guitars!!

I said something about it while I was there, but was ignored. When I returned home, I e-mailed the head pastor of the church and explained how terribly wrong and evil this was to have there.
He e-mailed back to me saying that he would look into it.
Well, last night when I returned, there was that game, still waiting to devour some child!


As I was there, I spotted a "christian" man that I know from a church in the area. (The church is a pentecostal church) He came over and started talking with me and asked me what I do for a living.
I said "I preach the word of GOD" He just looked at me kinda funny and I felt as if I should explain.

SO I began to explain that at one time, I was an antique dealer, but the Lord made me to realize how it was simply a life of covetousness and so I no longer have anything to do with it and now I preach the word in homeless shelters and street corners and wherever the Lord wants me to.

He began to tell me how he disagreed with what I said, about collecting antiques and that it was just covetousness. I began to give scripture verses like "whoever desires to be My disciple, let him deny himself, pick up his cross and follow Me", also: "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

He argued that the Lord knows the heart and that having a large and valuable antique collection does not mean that you are not a Christian.

Well, while I do believe that God can save anyone that He wants to, I also know that "the birds of the air had nests and the foxes had holes, but the Son of man had no place to lay His head"

And that Jesus was homeless and that He told us to not store treasures up for ourselves here on this earth but to store our treasure in heaven etc, etc, etc...

Which brings me to today, this morning, I went to a homeless shelter in Norristown, PA and as some brothers and sisters in Christ gave out eggs and bacon, I gave the Word of the Lord.

After the message, a man came up to me and said, "I agree with everything that you preached except the part about having faith in Christ and living in sin and then going to hell if you died in that sin, simply because a person might have been weak and lived in sin while he also believed in Christ".................This man believed that if yo believe in Jesus, you can do anything that you want as long as yo truly believe in Christ, it just meant that when you got to heaven, you may not get as many rewards????

Can you see this pattern of false gospels that so many are holding on to today???

The greater portion of the "church" has no real idea what the TRUE Gospel message is!!

They are so lost in half truths and lies that they are truly lost and perishing for a lack of knowledge.

Part of it is the fault of the preachers today that absolutely refuse to define what sin is in an uncomprimising way. But the other part is that unfortuneately, so many love the sin that they are in and do not want to seek the True Kingdom of God.

(This is where I make it clear that Im so thankful to the Lord for His mercy in my own life)

So, what I see is that there is a beautiful vine that is growing right in the midst of this "church",
but the church keeps getting out the weed killer......


In Christ alone,
Chris


I am very happy that you are doing what you believe God has called you to do. May HE bless your work. I do not agree with your understanding of Chrio39's dream and that is okay. Chrio39 is the one that must bear witness to what the Lord was teaching him through the Holy Spirit in his dream. I will lay this down and pray that true understanding will come to Chrio39 concerning this word. This entire thread bears witness as to why the Holy Spirit is teaching what He is in this dream.
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Justice
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Weeds on the other hand, arent useful for much, normally eatten, and can cause harm to those things that are normally healthy.


The term weeds is applied by the unknowing to about every plant that is not useful in their sight.
Yet many of these so called weeds are made by God to help man. Many have medicinal purpose.
One can expel a worm infection (worm wood), another can clear the lungs. A third can strengthen a weakened heart while being toxic to a strong hearted person (digitalis). There is one that quickens the healing of broken bones (angel root). Another is a natural anti-biotic (sage, the mints). There is one that cleans eye infections (called eye bright). Etcetera.

So it is with christians. They walk past the homeless and call them weeds.
ces280
Garlic. I know it's not a weed, but plants nonetheless aren't just there for eating or looking at. I used to get chronic sinus infections, and trouble tasting food, and diagnosed myself with candida. Chopped up one raw clove a day for only two days, and swallowed it like pills with water, and boy did it work!
ReadGOD'SWord
QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 20 2008, 02:34 AM) *
QUOTE
Weeds on the other hand, arent useful for much, normally eatten, and can cause harm to those things that are normally healthy.


The term weeds is applied by the unknowing to about every plant that is not useful in their sight.
Yet many of these so called weeds are made by God to help man. Many have medicinal purpose.
One can expel a worm infection (worm wood), another can clear the lungs. A third can strengthen a weakened heart while being toxic to a strong hearted person (digitalis). There is one that quickens the healing of broken bones (angel root). Another is a natural anti-biotic (sage, the mints). There is one that cleans eye infections (called eye bright). Etcetera.

So it is with christians. They walk past the homeless and call them weeds.


Dreams are full of symbolism. Chrio39 stated that he believed the dream to be full of symbolism. God will speak to us in a dream to teach us or warn us about something. The Word of GOD says:
Job 33:15-17 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That he may withdraw man [from his] purpose, and hide pride from man.
To know if a dream is from the Lord we must take the symbolism in it and search it out in the Word of GOD. If the plant in Chrio's dream is a weed then find out what the Word of GOD says about weeds. After all the Word of GOD is just that....GOD'S Word. Using man's knowledge is confusing and we may never know the true meaning of a dream or vision the Lord has given because we will go around in circles......well, maybe it means this or maybe it means that. You yourself has made an example of that in what you said about weeds. From man's thinking, weeds are good and bad but what does GOD'S Word say about them?
Again, only Chrio39 can bear witness to what the Lord may be showing him. May GOD bless you.
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jhamner
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Justice
QUOTE (ReadGOD'SWord @ Jul 20 2008, 05:49 PM) *
You yourself has made an example of that in what you said about weeds. From man's thinking, weeds are good and bad but what does GOD'S Word say about them?
Again, only Chrio39 can bear witness to what the Lord may be showing him. May GOD bless you.
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No I have not. Learn to read properly. I said:
Weeds are weeds. But not all that we call weeds, ARE weeds.
Actually what I said was in concordance with Davids dream.

So stop twisting my words.
Sabrinar48
Just to put my 2 pence worth in... The plant sounds like Angel's Trumpet or aka Mexican Trumpet. We have several of them growing in our neighborhood.

The plant is growing fast! So is the vine and the branches. (Christ & us) very prophetic to see the vine growing and the trumpet ripening!





Weeds....
Matt 13:41 -43 - The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.
ReadGOD'SWord
QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 20 2008, 12:46 PM) *
QUOTE (ReadGOD'SWord @ Jul 20 2008, 05:49 PM) *
You yourself has made an example of that in what you said about weeds. From man's thinking, weeds are good and bad but what does GOD'S Word say about them?
Again, only Chrio39 can bear witness to what the Lord may be showing him. May GOD bless you.
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No I have not. Learn to read properly. I said:
Weeds are weeds. But not all that we call weeds, ARE weeds.
Actually what I said was in concordance with Davids dream.

So stop twisting my words.

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freedom
The Lord has shown me something else in this dream. All that is happening is in the back yard, which is spiritually speaking of something hidden. Often what is hidden, is sin. When the sin is allowed to continue to grow, within a Church, it causes confusion. Don't be fooled by what may look like a true ministry of the Lord, but in reality it is something that the devil has planted among the believers.
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