Awesome explanatory power of the Theory Of Evolution is given in these videos;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFG-aLidT8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UbpL83oJNo...feature=related


I can foresee the day when such knowledge would be put to use to relieve some of the many ailments that afflict us. Hooray, hooray, hooray!

Enjoy!

evolution never happened

God predicts the future
he has perfect love, wisdom,

he is truth, the life, the resurrection

he loves me!

What do you mean by this?

This is the same trash, dung, lies, that the living dead taught us in school. It hasn't changed at all, It is still a lie. A theory is a lie until it is proven to be fact. There aren't even any eye witnesses to this trash.

God created a mature earth. The eye witness that saw it all before a single eye was created is still here. If you love Him and ask Him for His Spirit He will let these things be known to you.




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• Evolution predicted lots of "junk DNA". Creationism predicts no - or very, very little - "junk DNA". Science is now learning that what was thought to be huge amounts of "junk DNA" actually has a function, or has latent function.
  
  
• Evolution predicted "vestigial organs". Creationism predicts no "vestigial organs". Science now knows that what were once thought to be "vestigial organs" in humans actually have a function.

Evolution is not scientific, because it can account for anything, as long as a scientist has a sufficiently creative imagination to concoct a story to explain why evolution would produce what is observed. Lots of intermediary fossils? Evolution predicts that. No intermediary fossils? Evolution predicts that, too, which is how the theory of "punctuated equilibria" arose. Gradual increase in complexity observed in the fossil record? Evolution predicts that. Sudden appearance of major animal types, fully formed, in the fossil record? Evolution predicts that, too, though we don't know how just yet. A large percentage of people experience "road rage"? A leftover behavior from our early ape-like ancestors, when getting angry allowed quicker access to the watering hole. Many people are altruistic? Of course, because this conferred an evolutionary advantage to our ancestors in reaping "good will" from their neighbors (thus, altruism is ultimately about selfishness, according to Evolutionary theory). Even more people are selfish? Certainly, because being selfish obviously provides certain quick and easy advantages, and thus was a feature Evolution selected for. Male peacock feathers? Evolution tells us that female peacocks are either stupid, or that male peacocks with ungainly tail feathers must be very fit in order to survive such a hindrance. And so on.

Okay.


Now that's a bad argument on your part.

I don't imagine there were any eyewitnesses that watched God create the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

Does that mean we should reject Genesis too?

Neal C.

There is no reason to be insulting.

At any rate, I would quite disagree.

Firstly, a theory is "not a lie until proven fact." A theory, in the scientific sense, is a comprehensive explanation of a large amount of evidence. Theories are not "absolute truth", but neither are they simply good guesses. Scientists do not refer to an explanation as a theory until it has been very well-tested and passed all the tests. Evolution has clearly done this.

Now, certainly there were not eyewitnesses to the history of life on earth, at least until very recently. So what. We have no eyewitnesses to processes going on inside the earth, or inside the sun, or in some sense to what goes on inside atoms. However, this does not mean we have no knowledge of what goes on in these areas. Similarly, we often convict murderers without necessarily having any eyewitnesses.





It is not necessary to disbelieve evolution to believe in God. Consider, for example, Francis Collins, leader of one of the human genome projects but also a Christian and author of "The Language of God." I certainly view the Bible as inspired, but this does not mean we should accept it all as literal. Early Protestants, including Martin Luther and John Calvin, read their Bibles and saw that it contradicted the Copernican system in quite a few passages. They sided with their understanding of the Bible over Copernicus, and of course, we now know they were wrong.

I believe the same will happen with evolution. Anti-evolutionism survives for the same reason anti-Copernicanism survived for decades after Copernicus book. People have a hard time changing their cherished opinions, even when the evidence indicates they are wrong.

In my view, evolution is an incredibly awesome process which truly reflects God's infinite wisdom and subtlty.

evolution never happened

evolution and bible contradict each other..............it's impossible for both to be true

Shekel has an article and a SIGN FROM GOD concerning evolution.........God's message to evolutionists was: you will be punished.

see www.bible-codes.org for the article and SIGN............it was connected to a Cyclone which struck near Darwin Australia

http://www.bible-codes.org/gospel-of-judas...the%20Crocodile!

evolution never happened............God said so, in this SIGN FROM GOD.

quote from DEAN COOMBS:
"God spared the city of Darwin because He delights in mercy and because no doubt people were praying. However, God warns that Darwinian theory will one day bite fallen man (like a crocodile), that is, it will bring due punishment like a great storm upon the inhabitants of the earth for replacing the honor of the Creator and giving it to the dragon/crocodile, who claims to be the storm-god. And the punishment will be severe --- like the bite of a chainsaw --- for the haughtiness of man will be cut down, and the top of the evolution-tree with it!"

You didn't read my post? Or you didn't pay any attention to what was said? Or you didn't understand what was said?

Who was the witness?

As I recall, not even Adam was created yet.

evolution is just a State-funded religion for God haters..

Go ahead, believe that your great great grandfather was SOUP... and that your great grand father was was a monkey...

My Father lives in Heaven and I was made in His image and I believe that with all my heart.

Believe that you are the result of random selection, and HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

I am fearfully and wonderfully made; unique with my figerprints, my DNA, my iris scan... my soul and my emotions and my (CODED!) life is unique.

AND I WILL HAVE A BETTER WEEK END THAN YOU because I have HOPE, which you don't. So believe what you want and keep pouring your trash in this Christian website. God already knows who will believe and who will not!



hebrews 6:13when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
Hbr 6:14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
Hbr 6:15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
Hbr 6:16For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation [is] to them an end of all strife.
Hbr 6:17Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed [it] by an oath:
Hbr 6:18That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Hbr 6:19Which [hope] we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;
Hbr 6:20Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

JESUS IS MY HOPE! WHAT IS YOURS?

If I were to ask someone on a city street to look up at a tall skyscaper and give me evidence that the building had a designer... it would be simple to reply. The building is proof that there is a designer.

It's the same with us. We are proof that there is a builder.

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Clearly 1 must believe in some sort of evolution / mutation if you believe in the Adam and Eve story. That is - evolution/mutation of the races. How else did Asian and Black and Hispanic and Indic people come about?

The Guinness world record for the longest traced ancestor is 86 lineal descendants, to the Chinese philospher Confucius's family. Confucius was several hundred B.C. The Adam and Eve Story was 4,000 B.C. But alas, if you believe that, you must then believe in the Noah's story. His 3 sons that picked 3 different wives that weren't biologically related. But wouldn't all 3 of their wives be Jewish?

And then, Adam lived 930 years, so I wonder what dates back to Noah's time. Clearly Noah's time - the world was all mixed or all Jewish?

Evolution of the races..

Evolution describes the lifetime of the creatures on this earth.

De-evolution describes the lifetime of man on this earth.
Or you could say reverse evolution.

Neal,

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Clearly one must believe in some sort of evolution / mutation if you believe in the Adam and Eve story. That is - evolution/mutation of the races. How else did Asian and Black and Hispanic and Indic people come about?

That's not "Evolution". "Evolution", as commonly presented, involves the "common ancestry" of all living things. Creationists have no issue with what you describe above - that's merely "micro-evolution". The problem is with the idea, central to "Evolution", of the common ancestry of different creatures, which requires "macro-evolution". "Microevolution" is merely the variation within a kind - different human races, different dog breeds, different sorts of Galapagos finches, and so on. No new information is generated. "Macroevolution", on the other hand, is basically the development of new information, of new genetic information which is expressed in a new phenotype. And that has never happened, and cannot under "Random Mutation and Natural Selection" (it is so mathematically improbable as to effectively be impossible).

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The Guinness world record for the longest traced ancestor is 86 lineal descendants, to the Chinese philospher Confucius's family. Confucius was several hundred B.C. The Adam and Eve Story was 4,000 B.C. But alas, if you believe that, you must then believe in the Noah's story.

Oh, alas.

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His 3 sons that picked 3 different wives that weren't biologically related.

They sure had some strange customs back then, didn't they?

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But wouldn't all 3 of their wives be Jewish?

What? Are you confusing your time-frames, I hope?

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And then, Adam lived 930 years, so I wonder what dates back to Noah's time.

Ummm, Adam was before Noah, and died some time before the Flood.

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Clearly Noah's time - the world was all mixed or all Jewish?

The world was "all mixed". Don't you know what it means to be "Jewish", and when the Jews, and Israel, first "arose"?

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Evolution of the races.

Variation within a kind. Certainly not evidence of "Evolution", macroevolution, or "common ancestry".

I was born again over 20 years ago. I am not a God-hater. Neither is Francis Collins who is an evolutionary biologist and headed one of the human genome projects. This statement of yours is simply incorrect.



I believe that I am descended from non-human species, biologically. I also have a spiritual father in heaven. God is spirit, and thus, being created in his image must mean we are created in His image spiritually.

Remember that Jesus said in John chapter 6 that his words were spirit and life. The flesh counts for nothing.



I already have!



I agree. We are fearfully and wonderfully made. This does not mean that evolution was not part of the process. To me, it is even more wonderful and awe-inspiring that we were made through evolution.



Hmmm. Well, I am not sure how you could know your weekend has been better than mine. I certainly share your hope and faith in Jesus, even if I disagree with you about evolution. I don't see the need to refer to other peoples views as trash.

Remember Romans 14. We are not to judge each other's walks with God. That is between each of us and the Lord.




Ditto.

God created a fully Mature earth.

He created Adam and Eve fully mature adults.

The book of Genesis and Enoch were given by God to Moses to write down.

They have survived by the Power of God to this day.

There are many versions that are very perverted by the misunderstanding of the flesh and some that are only slightly perverted by the misunderstanding of the flesh.

But if anyone wants to know the truth about any of it, they only need to follow Christ and ask God. It is promised to those who Love Him.

All men are descendant from Adam and Eve. God created all of the human kind from one blood.

Acts 17
26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,

The record doesn't tell us that. The Biblical record of Genesis 1:2 is the beginning of when earth was brought back from it's destruction caused by Satan's rebellion.





He formed Adam and took Eve from him...possibly using Adam's DNA (rib could also be translated as curve - Helix curve = DNA)





Yes, they have.





All are not from Adam and Eve. God created mankind, all the races, on the 6th day....as written. The referece to "one blood" in the above scripture is incorrect. The word "blood" is not in the text and "one" could mean the clay of which everyone is formed.

There is no evolution. God created all the races, mankind, on what Genesis terms the 6th day. Adam was formed following day seven. His line was the line through which Christ would come and ultimately save all mankind.....at least those that believe.


As far as Noah....two of all flesh were taken on the ark and that would include all races, male and female.


There were no "Jewish" people during the time of Noah. Jew means being of the tribe of Judah. Those of the other tribes were of Israel, however, this was before their formation so they are considered Adamic and then later Shemitic and then.....Hebrew, when they crossed the Eber with Abraham. After Moses led them out of slavery the tribes were formed.

So Asian people, Black people, Indic people, Hispanic people, etc., were all around in the time of Noah?

Who were their ancestors - Adam and Eve?


Right, we're arguing terminology.

Obviously, you believe White people can give birth to a Black or Asian child, right? That sort of evolution.

Absolutely none of what you said answers any of my questions.


That's fine, but we have a problem if such and such are idle and don't respond.


So if I wanted to know how Asian and Black and Hispanic and Indic people came about, all I have to do is ask God or Jesus how it came about.

Chances are, you do believe in exactly what I said, evolution of the races.


Explain to me how there are 4 human bloods types. Actually 8.

Oh I know - science is a hoax! All humans have the same blood type!

Either that or - you believe in some microevolution of blood.


Ah yes, this is proof of what you said. Science can't possibly argue.

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Neal: So Asian people, Black people, Indic people, Hispanic people, etc., were all around in the time of Noah?

No.

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Neal: Who were their ancestors - Adam and Eve?

Yes, as well as Noah. The races of man are descended from Noah and his children (Shem, Ham, and Japheth).

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Neal: Obviously, you believe White people can give birth to a Black or Asian child, right?

No, but people of Middle Eastern heritage can give birth to a wide range of "color". The more "selected" certain features are, the less genetic range there is. Exactly like dog breeds: dogs are all descended from a common wolf-like ancestor (and wolves can breed with dogs, so it's not like humans having an "ape-like" ancestor). Dogs are just variations of the "wolf-kind". But dog breeds which have been selected for very specific features have LOST genetic information, in comparison with wolves. Theoretically, one could take some wolves, and over time "re-breed" all the various dog breeds; one could NOT do so if one started with, say, a bunch of poodles or chihuahuas. Same thing with humans: the original people had a greater amount of genetic information, a far wider range of genetic possibility, than the races today.

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Neal: That sort of evolution.

That characterized by the loss of genetic information? We are in agreement, then.

So what time was Noah? Adam and Eve were 4,000 B.C.

Okay, so all races today came from Middle Eastern people. I guess the real argument is how many generations it takes.

I mean Confucius was 551 - 479 B.C.

There were Greek philosphers around that time too.

I suppose if we found fossils of all-Asian and all-Black people around Noah's time, you would have to reject them of course.

Neal,

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So what time was Noah? Adam and Eve were 4,000 B.C.

I believe the Flood would have been around 2400 B.C.. Give or take a few hundred years or so.

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Okay, so all races today came from Middle Eastern people.

All races today came from people who lived in the Middle East. We don't know if they looked like today's "Middle Eastern people", but probably similar, I imagine.

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I guess the real argument is how many generations it takes.

Yes, that is what it boils down to.

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I mean Confucius was 551 - 479 B.C..

Good for him. He lived just decades after the time Israel was taken into captivity by the Babylonians.

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There were Greek philosophers around that time too.

And to think that after all this time, they haven't really improved upon Socrates or Plato.

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I suppose if we found fossils of all-Asian and all-Black people around Noah's time, you would have to reject them of course.

Of course. But you wouldn't be able to determine strictly from fossils if the people were "all Asian" or "all Black". Fossils wouldn't tell you what race you were observing.

You might enjoy reading the following explanation of how the races of man originated after the Flood: The origin of the human races.

These are my 4 grandparents.

Note that on 1 side, they are Chinese, and the other side, they are Irish, French, German, and English.

So suppose I mated with a girl that was also half and half.

I do not think it is possible to give birth to a child that will be all White or all Chinese.

I do not think science can provide any way for such a child of mine to be like my grandparents.

Once you're mixed, you're a bit mixed.

Certainly in thousands of years, my descendants can forever mate with someone all of 1 race, so eventually, you could barely tell they came from my ancestors.

This is why I reject all humans came from the same parent.

That would mean we're all biologically related.

I found out why people up north are more hairy than those who live in the deep south.
I stumbled on this. I used to wear short sleeves, shorts. I had body hair but it was not very pronounced in either quantity or color.
Then I began to wear long sleeves and pants all the time. Within a year the hair on my arms, legs, and back became thicker and darker than before.

So I think there is some kind of adaptation processes going on within species. It is known that our jawlines are shorter than they were 400 years ago and hence why we have to have teeth extracted more often. Probably too many big macs and not enough bark in the diet. WHo knows.

The funny thing is that the thing people call evolution is putting all of the human species at marked disadvantages to adapt to changing environments or to survive.

Though I am white, I do believe that the indigenous peoples of the earth were black. You cannot get color from the absence of color, genetically speaking. However, you can in fact get a spectrum of absence of color from color whose gene has been affected by either internal processes or external influences whatever that may be.

I do not claim any expert status in this area of science, but by the same token science does not fully comprehend the nature of a sinful state of man and how sin has worked generational consequences on the DNA of all creation, not just humans. Also worthy of mention is how man has taken the evolutionary road of toxifying the environment so the survival of any is a remote chance in the very near future.

You are correct. All humans do not come from the same pair. The Bible tells us that but most overlook it.

You would have to give more than a few hundred since there are tree ring chronologies based on bristlecone pines going back 9000 years.

See http://sonic.net/bristlecone/dendro.html.

Even if you assume that ALL of the years had double rings, which is a rather fantastic assumption, you would still be back to 2500 B.C. If there is evidence for double rings, I would certainly be interested in seeing example, including how often such double rings might occur.

These scriptures say that you don't know what you are talking about.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth,

11 So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest.'

We haven't got to the day of rest yet and the first stone that God created was indeed a mature stone. The Stone that the builders reject to this day.

I guess that is a good thing to name a woman Eve.

What does "all living" constitute to? All things alive? Such as animals? Plants?


So if you needed a blood transfusion, you'd accept a blood that science calls "a different type?" than your blood type?

I read this commentary about the word 'one', could mean the clay of which everyone is formed.

Could I ask for the reference web link, to that commentary ?

Because, I am working on how the clay, interlinks with ' pillar ' . . . Thank you !



QUOTE (whirlwind @ Jun 23 2008, 06:37 AM)
All are not from Adam and Eve. God created mankind, all the races, on the 6th day....as written. The referece to "one blood" in the above scripture is incorrect. The word "blood" is not in the text and "one" could mean the clay of which everyone is formed.



http://www.biblewheel.com/gr/GR_79.asp

79 + Testimony, Witness + Knowledge + Congregation + Boaz (Left Pillar) + Clay + Garment + The Garden of the LORD + Delilah + Expire, Die, Perish




Ten Commandments Are Built Upon The `pillar`: + 2 Criminals Crucified With Christ,, who was the center `pillar` + Biblical characters of the pillar
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=20637&hl=

How much time passed between the 7th day of creation and the fall of man?

She is the mother of all that live eternally....from her Christ came.





"Blood" was not in the text. "One" could mean one clay...all flesh is of clay.

I do not know, however, I am like you . . . I want to know ~

Thanks for asking this very valid question. Maybe Stephen can answer ?

Thanks :

I appreciate that info whirlwind.

If you run into, any `clay` terms . . . send them to me.

I am as I told you using the parallel between the word's `clay` and `pillar`,
due to their numerical foundation.

Isn't the fall of man when Adam and Eve sinned?

Or the Noah saga.

All living people. But you are not that stupid are you? And I'll bet that you know the scripture was also telling you what the word Eve means.

If you would have read the rest of the bible you would know that removing the blood from a human body is an abomination to God. You are not to take part in the heathens blood practices.

But rather you are to find the healing faith through Christ Jesus.

Now now... Don't sling me in the middle of anything...

I was referring to adam/eve's fall.

My point. I do not recall any amount of time mentioned. I know honestly we will never know for sure, but perhaps therin lies the harmony of science (ie. carbon dating, fossil creation, oil production) and creation...

AppyGroove,

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How much time passed between the 7th day of creation and the fall of man?

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My point. I do not recall any amount of time mentioned. I know honestly we will never know for sure, but perhaps therein lies the harmony of science (ie. carbon dating, fossil creation, oil production) and creation....

Actually, we can know, from the Bible, that the Fall of Man occurred somewhere between 1 day and a bit less than 130 years, because the Fall would have occurred after the 7th Day of Creation, but before God gave Seth to Adam and Eve as a "replacement" for the murder of Abel by Cain. Reasonably assuming that both Cain and Abel were adults when Cain murdered Abel (let's assume 30 years old, just for aesthetic purposes), and realizing that the Bible implies that the first child conceived (Cain) was conceived after the Fall (Genesis 3 finishes with God's judgment upon mankind, upon the serpent, and upon the Earth, and ends by describing God driving Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden; and Genesis 4 starts by saying that Adam "knew" Eve, and she bore him Cain), we can reduce the possible time-frame for the Fall to between 1 day and 100 years after the 7th Day of Creation. Personally, I think it was probably within a few months after the 7th Day of Creation (God had commanded Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply", and I doubt Adam and Eve would have waited very long before getting to "know" each other).

No, but it doesn't make sense.

When God made Eve and Adam named her 'Eve' because she was the mother of "all living things," and all living people, that's a lie.

Because Adam was before Eve.

(So Adam must be older than Eve.)

Eve was not Adam's mom..


Well I wasn't talking about donating blood. Suppose you had a car accident and you lost a lot of blood, would you be against receiving it?

Geez.


Trust me, if I were injured, and my choices were to go to a hospital or pray about it, I would pick go to the hospital.

If I had to pick between studying to get better grades or praying to get better grades, I'd pick studying.

Neal.

Adam and Eve were not Born they were created. All other humans came from the line of Eve.

You love the things of man and are not mindful of the things of God. You don't get it.

If you knew the Lord you would not get in a car accident. There is no such thing as an accident. God wounds and God heals. If you knew the Lord you wouldn't have to pray about healing those who are injured you would heal them by displaying the power of the spirit of God.

Since you are worshiping Grades and the things that this dying world has to offer instead of trying to please God by searching for Him, then they can all rise up and save you in the day of trouble that hastens upon the earth.

Not arguing against your reasoning, per se. Your statement reminded of an incident that occured when I was in school...

A man (he was a believer/christian/went to church/displayed fruit/etc....) had physical disabilities. Other "Christians" (and they declared it boldly) informed him that if he had more faith Jesus would heal him. His reply:

"I have enough faith to know that 70 years of this 'ol flesh in a wheelchair is nothing compared to dancing and praising our Lord for an eternity..in eternity"


On subject of grades... praying and studying was the best combination for success.. I am not as successful if I only do one of the two... I'm sure there is a parable somewhere in the Gospels that prompt us to prepare...


Anyone remember the book "Where The Red Fern Grows" ? "you got to meet God halfway"



Now we return to 'evolution'....

Wow, I found this 1 a bit funny..


Oh, I get it. If a car crashes into me, it was done by God on purpose. Not an accident.

Everything happens is God's will. We have no free will.

...Not..


When you are struggling to believe, that is not the time to avoid Christ or to be ashamed of your struggle. You will never increase your faith by not going to Jesus! Rather, Jesus wants to help you with your belief. He can not only meet your need, but He will also give you faith to trust Him to provide for you.

If you are struggling to believe that God can take care of your need, it is because you don't know Him as He wants you to. Go to Him and allow Him to convince you of His ability to meet every need you will ever face.

Many are called but few are chosen.

Struggling to believe is not even a calling it is vanity trying to figure out what it wants.

It is true that the Lord has given to each a measure of faith. But that is to those who believe, to the saving of their souls.

mouth service is not salvation.

John 14
21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."

Matthew 22
14 For many are called, but few are chosen."

Matthew 7
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Well, what's described in the video isn't Evolution at all, rather, it is "Spontaneous Polybiological Mass-Profusionism" (SPMP), which I have been saying for a decade, now; where the commonality traits are identical and present in all species due to the parental and primary DNA ingredients and the formulaic codes which adjust the severity or dormancy of the genetic traits to create the mass diversity of the entire multifarious Polybiological Species Pool of Life, being the "Polybiocorpus".

THIS MEANS NOT ONE CREATURE EVOLVED FROM ANOTHER. EVOLUTION NEVER HAPPENED.

"Polybiogenesis" did not happen via the Evolution-Uniformitarian Model of 600 million years, it happened SUDDENLY and in UNISON as the Sacred Writings proclaimed where all life with all its diversity was contemporaneous having emerged from the irradiated primordial seas of the Edenic Earth with its original "upper hydrospheric shield" (Prima Altohydrosphere) that generated a "Pressurized Geocrucible Effect" in combination with the Earth's paternal star, Sirius B, which at that time was a B-1 class Blue Supergiant, about 5 times the mass of our current Sun, a tiny G-2 class star that “arrived” later. In the Egyptian pantheon, Sirius B was "personified" as the deity, ATUM. Even outside of the Bible this collaborative data can be found, e.g. in pagan writings that actually CONFIRM the Genesis account of Creation:

THE EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD:

"I saw in the darkness of the deep,
chaotic waters without form
permeated with a subtle intelligent breath
of divine power.

Atum's Word fell on the fertile waters
making them pregnant with all forms.
Ordered by the harmony of the Word, the four elements came into being,
combining to create the brood of living creatures."

ANALYSIS:

"Atum's Word fell on the fertile waters"
This is referring to X-ray and electromagnetic irradiation upon the primordial seas, NOT by our Sun, for it did not exist at this time, BUT by Sirius B, our original and paternal star, originally 5 times the mass of our Sun... our Sun emerged later out of Sirius B when it received a cometary impact (Comet Metis: "Prudence" or "Knowledge"), ejecting 70% of its mass which reduced the mass of the star into an F-1 class star about 1.49 time the mass of our Sun and created Sirius A, 10 new planet, and Sirius C (our Sun). When life was created on Earth there were ONLY 2 members to our system, Earth (Gaia) and Sirius B (Atum/Ouranos), and the Earth was not 93 million miles from the stellar center, but it was 4.9 billion miles away from Sirius B, as far away as Pluto's distance from the Sun, today.

"making them pregnant with ALL FORMS"
The primordial seas were a "polybiological hatchery" where the ENTIRE GENETIC DIVERSITY OF ALL KNOWN SPECIES were SEEDED in UNISON via irradiation of the chemical compounds, and under the highly unique environment of the Geocrucible Effect with Sirius B's X-rays radiating through the Prima Altohydrosphere that also generated a 30% greater oxygen concentrate and a higher geomagnetic amplitude, resulting in Gigantism (giantism) and vast longevity of life. None of these conditions exist today due to the Noachian Flood percipitated by mass celestial bombardment that collapsed the shield, and because we now have a tiny star due to the "split" when Sirius B eventually went Nebula after depleting all its helium at the end of its Red Giant phase, which created the celestial dynamics that split the former trinary stellar system in half, e.g. into our current Solar System and the Sirius Binary.

"Ordered by the harmony of the Word,
the four elements came into being"
This is the appearance of the four primary polymers of life from the effects of the X-ray irradiation from Sirius B (Atum), organized into the 4 classes: carbohydrates, fats and oils, nucleic acids (DNA) and proteins that subsequently produce MOLECULES, the building blocks of life.

"combining to create the BROOD OF LIVING CREATURES."
The entire multifarious genetic species pool of life, the "Polybiocorpus", is created in UNISON; it is contemporaneous, created simultaneously.

So all life came into to existence at ONE TIME, and it was ALL CONTEMPORANEOUS.

This means that the Fossil Record has been MISINTERPRETED. Instead, it was laid down by periodic cosmocataclysms affecting the whole Earth by "transterrestial" inundations, where the original Polybiocorpus was periodically whittled away by these SUDDEN celestial onslaughts and entombed in mud to fossilize in various layers that represent the perodic cosmocataclysms. This can be termed "Periodic Polybiolysis". Thus, the Fossil Record and the Geological Column did NOT form over vast geological time, as is currently assumed.

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Seven Thunders,

QUOTE

"Polybiocorpus".

"Okay, next contestant. Your word is, 'polybiocorpus'."

"Polybiocorpus"?

"Yes. 'Polybiocorpus'."

"Polybiocorpus. Can you use that in a sentence?"

"No. Just spell it."

....

"Oh, certainly Mr. Spelling-Bee Moderator... it is... 'P - O - L - Y - B - I - O - C - O - R - P - U - S'... meaning 'MANY + LIFE + BODY OF', or 'A BODY (AS IN A COLLECTION) OF MANY LIFE FORMS'. And, in a sentence one might say, 'Ninety percent of the Polybiocorpus that thrived on the Edenic Earth became extinct during Noah's Flood.'"

"Correct, and congratulations! You have just won the National Spelling-Bee!"

"Thank you! Thank you! I so humbly want to thank all the little people that made this day possible, including my spelling agent Bernie Shelley, my dog Syllable, my cat Hyphen, my teacher Mrs. Applegate, my psychiatrist, mummy, daddy and grand-pappy, and most of all my makeup artist and hairstylist, the Baroness Felice Von Kissel!"

The problems with the instantaneous creation of all life is that, if this did happen, we should find all the species that ever existed in the fossil record all present from the earliest times, the lowest layers. As we go up, if all that happens are extinctions and never any new species, we should see that reflected in the fossil evidence.

This is not what we see. We see trilobites in lower layers, know land animals for a long time, later the dinosaurs, and no humans until the very top .

Now, I certainly agree cataclysms play a big role in the fossil record. But the problem is, after some cataclysms we see whole new kinds of species arising in the record. We can fairly firmly establish some worldwide cataclysms, for example, the asteriod collision which led to the iridium layer. Many of the species found in the fossil record above this layer are not found below. For example, dinosaurs disappear right around this layer. There are no primates below the iridium layer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%E2%80%93T_boundary

http://www.scn.org/~bh162/iridium.html

This phenomenon and the fossil record in general are consistent with evolution, but are not consistent with 'special instantaneous creation', unless, it seems to me, you assume God miraculously tampered with the evidence. Somehow, deception does not fit my idea of GOd.



In addition, what evidence is there for the "upper hydrospheric shield" ever existing? Is such a thing even scientifically feasible? I have heard people try to claim the earth once had a 'vapor canopy.' The problem's with such a canopy are many, including that it would cause the earth's temperature to rise above the boiling point.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH310.html

http://www.sentex.net/~tcc/fcanopy.html

Even some creationist sites argue the vapor canopy is not only scientifically impossible, but also unbiblical.

http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/canopy.html

Here is a critique from a Lutheran standpoint.

http://www.lutheranscience.org/2003-VaporCanopyTheory1.html