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Alice
The White Rabbit
The Mouse
The Dodo
The Lory
The Eaglet
The Duck
Bill the Lizard
The Caterpillar
The Duchess
The Cheshire Cat
The Hatter
The March Hare
The Dormouse
The Queen of Hearts
The Knave of Hearts
The King of Hearts
The Gryphon
The Mock Turtle

I like the white rabbit.

I had a house rabbit, who lived to be 12 years old. I selected the white rabbit of Alice, due
to his trumpet.

This blowing of the trumpet, reminds me of the following scriptures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rabbit
Some believe the rabbit was late for the announcement of the Queen to the royal garden. The panic the rabbit showed was his fear of losing his head. Upon her arrival (where Alice has been helping to paint the roses red) the cards finish their song and the rabbit blows his trumpet (which he had been carrying for most of his lines) royally introducing the king and queen.


<< Joshua 6:9 >>


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And the armed men went before the priests that blew with the trumpets and the rereward came after the ark the priests going on and blowing with the trumpets
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1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (New International Version)

51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Neither one, I am me as God has made me.

If I need an amusement park I go to one.
It is not why I come here.

You amuse me.

Thank you, Justice:

Since you turned this toward the serious, maybe you will approve of me posting the
Alice disorder I suffered from in the real world outside of the Alice of imaginary thoughts.

~Alice in Wonderland syndrome~

So I assure you, this was not an amusement park experience. So I try to look at the Alice childrens
story in positive viewpoints. However, since you did not come here, for the topic under
'JUST FOR FUN', I will post the following description of my suffering.

If others reading this, had childhood migraines and the mononucleosis, and/or both, please
forward your input. I would like to see how this medical issue, has played a role in your daily
life.

His Grace is all I need ! Praise to God(IHVH), who can take a lemon, to make lemonade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Wonderland_Syndrome

Alice in Wonderland syndrome (AIWS, named after the novel written by Lewis Carroll), also known as Todd's syndrome[1], is a disorienting neurological condition which affects human perception. Sufferers may experience micropsia, macropsia, and/or size distorsion of other sensory modalities. A temporary condition, it is often associated with migraines, brain tumours, and the use of psychoactive drugs. It can also present as the initial sign of the Epstein-Barr Virus (see infectious mononucleosis).

Cool! So in the FUN section we can say what we want, already liking this forum.

crown, I miss the Knight of Spades in your list. I feel left out.

NOTE: just remember, there is a debate section, which is aimed at controling unusual
feedback, opinions, ideas . . . in a specific topic section : DEBATE

Welcome :

Sorry, no `Knight of Spades', in the list.

I did scan around and find the following . . .

EXCERPT:
Hero/Heroine (see also Knight, Warrior)

Knight (see also Warrior, Rescuer)

The Knight archetype is primarily associated with chivalry, courtly romance, protection of the Princess, and going to battle only for honorable causes. The Knight serves his King or Lord and so this archetype has spiritual overtones as well of service and devotion. Loyalty and self-sacrifice are the Knight's great virtues, along with a natural ability to get things done.

The Black Knight donning dark armor and riding a black horse represents the shadow characteristics of this archetype, especially the absence of honor and chivalry. Somewhat like the Warrior, the shadow Knight manifests as loyalty to a questionable ruler or principle. In its negative aspect, the Knight can also, like the Rescuer, fall into a pattern of saving others but ignoring his own needs. A true Knight, like the Mystic, walks the fine line between self-sacrifice and self-neglect.

Films: Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade; Tom Hanks in Apollo 13; Christopher Reeve in Superman; Kevin Costner in Dances with Wolves, Tin Cup, and JFK.

Drama: Man of LaMancha by Dale Wasserman

Fairy Tales: Prince Valiant

Religion/Myth: Knights of the Round Table (in medieval English lore, a semi-mythic group of 150 knights including Lancelot, Gawain, Kay, Mordred, Galahad, and others who served under King Arthur); Sir Percival/Parzifal (Knight of the Round Table who got to see the Holy Grail); Fabian (a good knight turned into a forest spirit by his ex-lover, a sorceress, and now dwells in the hills near Prague); Damas (shadow Knight who trapped other knights so that his brother could fight them).

Hey, You left out WhiteKnight?.

I'd have to pick Alice for myself because I like to take naps and have dreams.

And she had a pretty cool dream.

Well, you read the Knight excerpt ?

And with the white, included, I found this for your consideration :


Avenger (Avenging Angel, Savior, Messiah)

This archetype and its related manifestations respond to a need to balance the scales of justice, sometimes by employing aggressive techniques. Attorneys who work for the impoverished or disadvantaged, or who volunteer part of their time for pr bono work are modern avengers. Bringing war criminals to trial or legally pursuing corporations that harm society are examples of the Avenger on a global scale, fueled by a sense of righteousness in behalf of society. One can also be motivated to avenge an injustice against oneself or one's family. The Avenging Angel is an expression of this archetype of mythic proportions that suggests that one is on a mission from God, as in the case of Joan of Arc.

On the global level, the shadow manifests as avenging perceived immoral behavior by resorting to violence, from acts of ecoterroism to bombing abortion clinics. The "rightness" of one's cause can never justify harming innocent third parties. (Gandhi countered the shadow of social vengeance by emphasizing passive resistance to illegitimate authority.) In evaluating your connection to this archetype, review your life for experiences in which your primary motivation was to defend or represent a cause in behalf of others. One instance is not enough. You need to relate to this archetype as a primary force through which many of the choices and actions of your life are directed. A burning desire to get even can be so forceful that you organize a lifetime around meeting that end.

Films: Ingrid Bergman in The Visit; Jane Fonda in Cat Ballou; John Wayne in The Searchers; Julia Roberts in Erin Brokovich; Jane Fonda, Dolly Parton, Lily Tomlin in Nine to Five; Vincent Price in Theatre of Blood (shadow--an actor who kills his critics); Al Pacino in The Godfather (shadow); Robert de Niro or Robert Mitchum in Cape Fear (shadow).

Television: The Avengers.

Drama: The Oresteia by Aeschylus; Hamlet and Macbeth by Shakespeare.

Fiction: To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper S. Lee.

Religion/Myth: The Furies or Erinyes (avenging spirits of Roman and Greek myth, respectively); Bastet (Egyptian cat-headed goddess who is the instrument of Ra's vengeance); Durga (vengeful warrior goddess of the Hindu pantheon); Kali (Hindu mother goddess and symbol of destruction who annihilates ignorance and maintains the world order).

I found this on the main link :

Alice is a fictional character in the books Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and its sequel Through the Looking-Glass, which were written by Charles Dodgson under the pen name Lewis Carroll.

The character has been said to be based on Alice Liddell, a child friend of Dodgson's. Dodgson said several times that his 'little heroine' was not based on any real child, but was entirely fictional.[1] 'Alice' is portrayed as a quaintly logical girl, sometimes even pedantic, especially with Humpty Dumpty in the second book. According to Through the Looking-glass, she is seven-and-a-half years old but seems to conduct herself like a somewhat older child. Alice in Wonderland takes place on May 4th, Alice Liddell's birthday. Through the Looking Glass takes place on November 4th, her half-birthday (and Alice states that she is "seven-and-a-half - exactly.")

Alice is popularly depicted wearing a pale blue knee-length dress with a white pinafore overtop, although the dress originally was yellow in The Nursery "Alice", the first coloured version of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Her blonde hair is held back with a wide black ribbon, and in honour of Alice, such hairbows are sometimes called "Alice bands", particularly in the UK.

SOME STUDIES ON WHY WE PICK SOME ALICE CHARACTERS ?

http://www.sabian.org/alice.htm

Dr. Marc Edmund Jones - Studies in Alice Commentary
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Chapter 01 - Down the Rabbit Hole (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 02 - The Pool of Tears (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 03 - A Caucus-Race and a Long Tale (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 04 - The Rabbit Sends in a Little Bill (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 05 - Advice from a Caterpillar (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 06 - Pig and Pepper (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 07 - A Mad Tea-Party (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 08 - The Queen's Croquet-Ground (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 09 - The Mock Turtle's Story (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 10 - The Lobster Quadrille (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 11 - Who Stole the Tarts? (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 12 - Alice's Evidence (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Through the Looking Glass
Chapter 13 - Looking-Glass House (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 14 - The Garden of Live Flowers (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 15 - Looking-Glass Insects (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 16 - Tweedledum and Tweedledee (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 17 - Living Backwards -- First Half of Wool and Water (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 18 - Wool and Water -- Second Half (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 19 - Humpty Dumpty -- First Half (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 20 - Jabberwocky -- Second Half of Humpty Dumpty (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 21 - The Lion and the Unicorn (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 22 - It's My Own Invention (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 23 - Queen Alice (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 24 - The Banquet (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 25 - The Kingdom of Heaven (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)
Chapter 26 - The Kingdom of Earth (Studies in Alice - Marc Edmund Jones)

yur all in wonderland, haha dats wot i thougt!

I can't pick one....I always thought Alice in Wonderland was way too weird. Then, as an adult I heard Lewis Carroll was on drugs when the book was written....I can believe that!


CSA I am sorry to hear about you experiencing so many problems, especially when you were younger. My grandson (15) has migraines and they are really hard on him. Thank goodness they don't strike often but they're doozies when they do.

Thank you, Whirlwind :

Keep this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Wonderland_Syndrome

Because the research is conclusive of the combination risk of both migraines and mono.

And the more sensory pain with the cycle of migraines, the more the risk. Really go
research the additonal links, at this link ^, on this syndrome.

The migraines began in elementary school, for me.

And then later as a teenager, I got the mono.

And then in my early 20's the symptoms of the mono, came back on me. And this
Canadian doctor tested my blood work day after day, one day positive mono/next day
negative mono. Flip flop readings . . . very strange indeed.

So pay attention to the severity of the migraine. He may never get the mono, with
the migraine.
However, the medical proof of the control of the migraine offsets the re-occurring
mono symptoms.

I think it must be in DNA.

My younger brother has migraines and had mono also during his lifetime. He is 40
years old.

Let me know, if you find other research about this . . . I will so the same for you in
behalf of your grandson.

Blessings . . .

Were there any handsome, athletic, chivalrous, brave, perceptive, and insightful male characters in the book? If so, that would be me. Now, if the book in consideration was "The Lord of the Rings", I'd be Faramir. Or Galadriel (I always thought she was cool).

[Just joking about Galadriel, by the way.]

hELLO----------

HERE IS A NEW POST, UNDER ANOTHER TOPIC, ABOUT THE MIGRAINE . . . ALICE SYNDROME


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You see, you make a great point.
No brave male characters, in Alice.

And know wonder, we move from childhood play role . . . to the real world. Some of us girls
realize that Alice can never find her male mate. Due to one not existing.

Wow ~ Godsword, you may be on top a univeral theme of mental exploration ( ha )

You made me laugh, at myself. Have a great day ! And blessings in the name of the Lord Christ
the Messiah !

I copied/pasted this for you . . . And if you put in the computer search engine, the word
galadriel you will get a little tid bit on that to. ( smile )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faramir
In The Fellowship of the Ring it is recounted that shortly before the battle Faramir had a prophetic dream, which later often recurred to him and once to Boromir. In this dream a voice spoke about a council that was to be held at Imladris far to the north, about the awakening of "Isildur's Bane", approaching of "Doom", and appearance of "the Halfling". Faramir decided to journey to Imladris and seek advice of Elrond the Half-elven, but Boromir claimed the errand for himself, fearing for his brother, and was approved by Denethor and a council of the elders; Faramir remained to defend Gondor.[10][9]

Oh sorry CSA, I did not know that, my apologies.. forgive my crankness?

I miss the Pink Fluffy though... =)

I just love you, Justice . . . ( big hugs )

No need for apologies . . . sister ! Well, as soon as I saw your commentary
of the pink fluffy . . . it reminded me to tell you that the dark pink is for a child
and the light pink is for the parent. . . due to the color fading with age.

And together these represent the pink harmony among offspring and mother/father.

So yes, let us provide some pink fluffy as well as the science, and its outstanding formations
of the conclusions of God (IHVH) our Creator.

Amen !


And I am picking the character not listed on the Alice list, for you Justice.
The sister to Alice.
Who is waiting for Alice, once she awakes . . .

You are the sister, who supports the child part of us . . . as we explore those realms
of the Lord's love, that only a child can understand.

Blessings for all you are, and all that you become for His Divine Purpose . . .

Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz are two of the biggest mind control themes in use, interestingly enough, due to all their ready-made symbolisms, use of “inverted reality”, reality vs. dream and illusion, and word play.

http://www.theuniversalseduction.com/artic...ggers-in-movies

I cannot relate to or associate myself with any likeness of the characters of Alice in Wonderland, because I never saw the movie / cartoon.
It may be that God has kept me from its malevolent influence and deception.

"But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep [you] from evil." -2Thessalonians 3:3

Nursery rhymes are part of the world of childhood.
And like Biblical parables . . . they mirror great learning lessons. So just like the crazy
deal with Jim Jones, who used Kool-aid to mass murder his followers . . . should Kool-aid
be banned as demonic ?


Oh well, even Satan could distort Alice in Wonderland. However, I glean the seeds of
good from it.

And since I have the true medical history called : Alice in Wonderland Syndrome,
I feel I am entitled to explore the suffering of migraines and mono . . . in the
parallels.

Satan can take a flying leap off the double edge sword of archangel Michael.
And as his guts are sliced . . . Michael will clean off his blade and worship the Amighty
God (IHVH), the next zillion years of eternity.

Thanks for the opinion Here Am I, however, you are not fully presenting all the positive
with negatives in your post. However, I respect our differences.

Annie, I sincerely appreciate you warning us for media products with a hidden agenda, but fortunately God made the children in the way that they will only pick up what they understand. Now if you want to have a go at a nasty media prodyuct, then let us pick South Park. (but please in another thread, so that Betty does not have to spank us =)

I never read the book, but I saw the disney version of alice in wonderland. I guess i'd choose the cheshire cat, he seemed mysterious and perhaps wise he used riddles I think to talk (it's been a long time since i watched that movie)

Interesting choice !

I found a stuffed Cheshire Cat, in an antique store several years ago. Mint condition !



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat

The Cheshire Cat is a fictional cat appearing in Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Alice first encounters it at the Duchess's house in her kitchen, and then later outside on the branches of a tree, where it appears and disappears at will, engaging Alice in amusing but sometimes vexing conversation. The cat sometimes points out philosophical points that annoy or baffle Alice. It does, however, appear to cheer her up when it turns up suddenly at the Queen of Hearts' croquet field, and when sentenced to death baffles everyone by making its body disappear, but its head remain visible, sparking a massive argument between the executioner and the King and Queen of Hearts about whether or not something that does not have a body can indeed be beheaded.
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where –" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.
"– so long as I get somewhere," Alice added as an explanation.
"Oh, you're sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough."
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And since you never read the original version, here is an excerpt which outlines the lessons
within the story. Including the Cheshire Cat !

Analysis:
Alice initially faces the Court of Cards with great confidence; she boldly
says to herself that they are only a pack of cards, and she has nothing to
fear. She is much stronger than when she first arrived in Wonderland. Her
confidence comes through when she saves the lives of the three gardeners.
But Alice soon realizes that although the people of the Court are only a
pack of cards, their nature does not make them any less dangerous. The Court
of Cards, like people of power in real life, rely on rank and costume for
their status. Carroll turns rank and costume into a game, mocking it;
however, he does not deny that ridiculous people can be frightening or
dangerous. Alice begins by thinking she has nothing to fear, but as she
spends more time with the Queen of Hearts she becomes increasingly anxious.
The theme of games, and learning their rules, is central in this chapter.
Alice is learning to get along in a social set of powerful people; Carroll
makes this adaptation into a kind of game by turning the court into a deck
of cards. Alice also has to adapt to a very difficult game of croquet. Part
of her problem is realizing that no one else is paying any attention to the
rules; sometimes, learning to play means more than learning the rules.
The argument about beheading the Cheshire cat is more fun with nonsense, as
the king argues that anything that has a head can be beheaded and the
executioner argues that being beheaded actually requires having a body.
Alice is composed enough to mediate.
The Cheshire cat is one of the few animals in Wonderland who treats Alice
with courtesy. He is a figure similar to the Caterpillar, in that he seems
tranquil and unbothered by the confusion of Wonderland. He is unimpressed by
the King's threats, and he easily escapes when his safety is threatened.

Whirlwind :

Did you think of the above info, when you posted this > ?


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http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=21961&hl=

Dear Chrio.....You and Cindy are not "outside" His kingdom, you are His kingdom.


I agree with Signet. It could be that just a lot of rest would help tremendously. Too, I had numbness in my face a few months ago and after going through lots of expensive tests the doctor said it was....migraines. I never had headaches but he said they manifest in other ways...numbness in the face was one way. After the one experience it never happened again.


You are both in my prayers.........Whirlwind

I like the white rabbit.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:White_rabbit_trumpet.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat
The Cheshire Cat is a fictional cat appearing in Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Alice first encounters it at the Duchess's house in her kitchen, and then later outside on the branches of a tree, where it appears and disappears at will, engaging Alice in amusing but sometimes vexing conversation. The cat sometimes raises philosophical points that annoy or baffle Alice. It does, however, appear to cheer her up when it turns up suddenly at the Queen of Hearts' croquet field, and when sentenced to death baffles everyone by making its body disappear, but its head remain visible, sparking a massive argument between the executioner and the King and Queen of Hearts about whether something that does not have a body can indeed be beheaded.