For several reasons.

The forum disgusts me. When there is a fun but nonsense topic, everyone is all over it, but when there is a serious topic, only few respond, and most of it is negative.

I thought I would find friends here, but the contacts are minimal. I am tired of giving, reaching out and warning and praying. Yes I am sinking into a severe depression. Don't even dare to say you are going to pray for me. What I need is not prayer.

It is true, I can only rely on God, and I am going back to HIM, forever and for good. And may His Judgment then come, undiluted, the very message bno one wants to hear. So be it, this forum is worse than lukewarm.

Twenty people dive on a topic like "why do men have nipples" but everyone goes silent on topics about forgiveness. When there is a fresh witch hunt topic, everyone dives on it, but we talk about the workings of love, all that happens is some standard phrases.

Then there are the ones who are allowed to introduce what I call seductive topics.

Also there is a group of members, mostly men, who are all brain and no heart. Very cerebral topics, that make me warm nor cold. Is that the way to save everyone? Good luck, you are IN the world. My question: where is your heart? Does it ever speak?

I have been deeply pained, mocked and can not find the motivation to continue here, these grounds are not fertile for God. All I see is yet another cozy self-indulged chat room, very incrowd.

I am depressed, hurting, sad and at the end of my contribution.

The forum is mainly immature and very very lukewarm indeed. Have fun.

You are not alone in your assessment! However, we can't expect a quick revival on a forum such as this. People are slow to learn. You only have a few weeks more than myself on the forum...imagine C's patience!! It has taken me a long time to get even just where I am today. I am 28 years in the Lord...and how much of that time was wasted chasing my own tail rather than moving forward in Christ? Please don't give up on people. This is a marathon and not a 100 metre dash. Your viewpoint is a valuable one if it is submitted to the will of God. Patience is just another lesson to be learned. I'm sure that God is more hurt than you. But we have an opportunity to point things out...some may even listen... eventually. What you said about the majoring in the irrelevent....men's nipples for example....is a truth that should make people think. Many believers are either asleep or have never been spiritually awakened.

Be strong in the power of His might sister,

Your bro,

John

I am very very sad. More than you could ever know.
But where ever you go, I know I'll see you again, someday...
So I sing praises to the Lord for the time you gave me..
Praises to the Lord for the Love you freely shared with me..
Praises to the Lord for the precious sister He gifted me..
Even if your presence was only for a few moments with me,
I'll never forget the time we shared as sisters.

I love you honey..
and don't ask me not to pray for you..It's in my nature.
Love, Lisa

I don't know you well Justice but you are one of the few Europeans here besides me.
For the record I agree with what you are saying, and what adullam is saying. For forgiveness I agree with you especially. People can point a finger at me and say I am stupid for wanting to have forgiveness instead of boiling resentment for things I cannot personally change well that's ok. Point away. I am also however worried about some things I feel are happening in the Christian movement but I think those are things I cannot change too. We have a job to do basically and we aren't doing it. And it has not as much to do with saving the gay guy down the street as some might think. Many feel the prophesies of the bible will soon be fullfilled. Beyond that we agree on little else. And the fact remains there is only one truth and if we aren't all digging deep for that truth we are going to fall short. And I agree men's nipples are probably not part of the knowledge we need to figure out.

The day will come where you wish you had no nipples. There are more demons than christians here.

This forum is not the only one, justice. Remember this is end times. Are you quiting to be Jesus' servant?

God has led me here. I thought I had found a home amongst true christians. I found maybe two or three.

good for you that you found two or three.

So sorry to hear that you're leaving the forum, Justice. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversations... your humor, and how you display your love for the Lord. Praying that He would take away your sadness and depression.

"Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." -Mat.11:28

"But thou, O LORD, [art] a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head." -Psalm 3:3

Love and Blessings to you,
-Annie

NO<NO<NO

IF YOU'RE GONNA GO< GO


You left out half of that verse. God has no use for that.

gregg stop being a parrot

Annie, we can stay in touch through the PM's? There is so much more to say...

this is so cold.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life
.4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Romans 11:2-5





4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers.
5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise and eat.

I Kings 19:4,5,





10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?
14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

And the LORD said unto him
18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

I Kings 19:10, 12-14, 18





.19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

John 21: 20:22




ככה גם אתם אחרי עשותכם את כל אשר צויתם אמרו עבדים אין מועיל בם אנחנו כי רק את המטל עלינו לעשות עשינו׃

So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Luke 17:10

Mat 17
[11] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[12] But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

High Justice



There is no reason to leave Justice if you see this as your home then hang around and dont let certain people up set you we live in a imperfect world


i know how you are feeling their are times i want to leave but i feel that if i leave i am alowing the enemy to win he is good at doing this he does this when we are feeling down or when we dont get on with another person

i am not perfect and i am not the one to say what a person does

you have sevral friends hear justice who like what you say in this forum

i also see this in the broader community and i see this in the churches i have visited

some people go out of their way to mock you and pull you down and there are decent folk out their who will go out of their way to make you feel welcome

i have to admit at first i found it hard to get on with you i was puzzled to why you where comming down on me and when i would come to what you had left me i would attack instead of asking the holy spirit to help me be more understanding my flesh took over sevral times

i have had to fight to get to where i am know in my walk justice i should not have had to fight but certain christians in the city i am living in and the church i found my self in went out of there way to tell me i am not welcome one person said i wil never get the chance white christians have gotten

well i proved them wrong with the lords help and every time i would get insulted i would come before the lord and tel him i am angry please take the hate and anger that i am feeling with

this person no longer mocks me or goes out of his way to attack me it puzzles me why you get on with some people and then there are others who you do not get on with and they will tell you to your face they hate you

that use to hurt me i was also told i will never pastor a church or god would provide a way for me to go to bible collage


hang in there Justice and dont let the enemy have his way if you do this you have given him he leg up



god bless from damo

There are many "true Christians" here. The thing is do they believe what you believe? What makes a Christian true? Is it the issues discussed here? Or is it a simple but profound faith in Him? If you want to know my take....the diversity of thought that scars the peace is that which brings discouragement. Caesar said well..."What is truth?" My biggest confoundation is just that...for Jesus said, "Thy word is truth." But how is it to be recognized amid the many voices which clamour for a hearing? Many have a particular slant and brand. Some are pure Carnation milk. Some are Grade A beef. And then there is all the generics...I have come to the bridge too far over and over again here. Yet even as I have determined to leave, the voice of truth tells me a different story. And I am somehow accomodated in my stand. You say God led you here. I should expect that is true of many. I know you are sincere. I would not declare you are wrong in any particular way. I did not say I agree. Just that does not automatically make you "wrong." Few avoid strivings. But I do feel certain members of the body could use a little less gravity. God is light hearted. But not faint hearted. If you feel you cannot share the heart of this generation (as many also feel) then do not share it. I refer to revival and the outcome of it what ever you feel assurance to deny etc. Pray for truth. It will be granted. Have your faith but not in contempt. My vote for you is that you remain and be intact here. You have every right and discipline and need. As do we all. I should not desire to be regarded as some how contemptible for having my faith, even as I should not desire to see yours stifled by some carnal desire. God is on the throne. I say again. Please remain.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My people, hear the voice of lamentation of My Spirit as it moves upon the face of the waters of My body throughout the nations. I am that I am from everlasting unto everlasting. I came in the meridian of time to set at nought the iniquity of Satan and to deliver My man from the death of subservience to him. I walked the earth and I made atonement and brought peace to every warring member who will but acknowledge the truth and be free. I am calling My people to be at risk in their discipleship in boldly proclaiming My gospel of the Kingdom and to preach it and to teach it and to boldly go where no man has gone before. No man has walked upon the coals of fire before My throne, and yet I have given you access to the very throne of grace to indeed be bold and to be at risk which is no risk at all if so be you are consecrated unto Me with all malleability of spirit and of soul and of body. I am not seeking the dogmatic, written in stone belief of the old but I am coupling in newness of life to those bold and authoritative and disciplined servants who will co rule with Me over all the darkness in every place and hidden recess of the mind and deeds of man. The understanding of who I am and of all I have done remains largely aloof of men's thoughts because My people have not sought to maintain the diligence and integrity over My righteous cause in the proclamation of My gospel. They have not realized and understood My promise to be with them in the lion's den and to be with them in the deserts and the raging torrents of storm tossed seas. They have fallen short in a form of will worship and presupposition that the truth is the truth but only under ideal circumstances and only under special anointings and only with certain creeds and thoughts and character and works. I am saying plainly to you that all this has been the demise in the here and now of any effective speaking forth of all the words of this life as My people indeed fall short in risking there all to take up the cross and to follow Me withersoever My Spirit would lead. I am not at a loss in dealing with any situation which may arise and I am proclaiming with all affirmation that through the praise and worship and prayer of My people I will indeed break through to the hearts of men and to the inner sanctums of disillusionment and I will voice the power of My word in the word of My power and all will know from the least to the greatest that I am He of whom it is written in scripture "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." My people do not normally refer to Me by this name, and yet it is the name by which I would be known of you, for I am the only begotten in a word and in a way to prove myself worthy of your love and of your commitment unto Me saith the Lord. I have not left you alone. I have not left you desolate. Prepare the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. I will make darkness light before you, and crooked things straight. These thing will I do unto you and not forsake you. I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron; and I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel and the shepherd of the sheep. Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; and ALL FLESH shall SEE the salvation of God. Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; and make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.

I don't know Maz, when you were still Fervent, I had you on my friendlist, but the amount of blood you have drawn from under my fingernails...

honey despite what we want, you have to do what you want and whats right for you, and what God wants you to do. if you decide to stay, thats great, i, we love you and care deeply for you. if you go, i, we will be sad and miss you but you can stay in touch. so, my dear spare mum, i want you to stay, you already know that....but dont let what other people want get in the way of what God wants you to do. sometimes we have to make sacrifices and this may be one of them. remember, God loves you very much and so do i, i love you to bits. love you heapsnessess!!! hugs!!!

I felt led to these verses...chapter and verse reversals

Pro 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

I have had my fingernails pulled out in my Christian walk...because I have been so afflicted, I may also inflict. Hurting people hurt people. Not good. But it happens. It is hard to "feel after Him" with sore fingers. I am still fervent you know...Maz is a name. It means something to me. I offer you an olive branch. I will be kind. I ask forgiveness for rape and brutality. I apply Rom 8:28.

We will see. Turn your cheek?

Lisa made me go to pray over my determination to leave, and I did. I got one word: "Humor".

So you are all stuck with my 24 hour bombardment of humor, and you will find it e-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e. Just sit it out.

These scriptures apply to both parties.

Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

I have always assumed this to be a scripture that calls a Christian to turn the other cheek to the worldly afflictors..but I see that as applied to two Christians, it ought to be a cheek turning extravaganza....

I see you are the anonymous poster tomight...

cool



Sitting down now!

Hugs!

I am sorry to hear that you are leaving. You are "One of The Elite Here" that have a good foundation of the Lord's truth to share.
It is hard when it seems like no one is listening.
But let me reassure you that the Lords word that goes forth from you, will not return to Him void.

The forum media is engineered for the wisdom and craftiness of mans words. It is hard to impart faith in the Power of God here on this type of media. The most that you can hope for here is to tell the truth and hope that it gets recalled when it is needed.

If there is some where else that the Lord needs you then I bid you go with blessings in the name of the Lord.
If not please reconsider that maybe that hundred fold is here right around the corner.
New people are coming here reading these posts everyday. Including hundreds that never register. look at the amount of guests that are logged in all the time. Then go down to the last click and read what they are all reading. It will amaze you how many are reading your posts.

Pitch in peacemaker, pinky has already.
Lisa said: Better dorkness than darkness, and then, if Jesus could wreck every funeral in town, than surely we can wreck each topic in town (for 24 hours and only with humor).

Thank you snorch!
Well after the next 24 hours no one will ever read my posts again!

You mean somebody was reading before?



This is what this forum has done to me...go an do thou likewise...

yuck! I would hope not, but I bet I could find a great doc for that!

Maz, please tell me that is not a video of you?

One day you will all besiege me to leave my humor at the door! But you wanted me lighthearted, so....

Heart breaker...I am the before and after picture...I started as a mole on that guys nose...talk about an identity crisis...

Maz there is more hope for the mole then for Chirac, Praise the Lord!

The only place where men have no hope is hell. For when we say "You don't have a hope in hell, we speak truth."

I see he is a Roman Catholic. I don't know why but that just jumped up at me..."ROMAN catholic....

Wow, did God ever teach me a valuable lesson yesterday. I used to love God's great sense of humor, and now when I look back, I can't believe how serious I have been lately, all caught up in seriousness and zeal, but I forgot to laugh, while humor is a powerful tool.
I am sorry I put you all through such torment, I will be more lighthearted indeed.

My ex-collegues had to put up with that for 21 years, so yeah I can see it now!

The downside is, now you have to put up with me being silly till the 24 hours are up! lol

Yes, Chirac is Roman Catholic.

Every major "player" on the world scene is Roman Catholic... or has ties to Vatican.

http://www.nndb.com/people/649/000023580/

Just that something seems to be said in ROMAN catholic...speaking of a world church...not in the "universal" sense but in the power sense. Man made.

Yes...'ROMAN' Catholic...AKA VATICAN.

I have been enormous grumpy lately, I realize it, and I also realize that it burdens the forum, or I would rather call it this family.

I count it totally my own doing that I am not always the most pleasant person with the most pleasant and sweet messages. It looks almost like a constant pms, but is is not a hormonal origin. Lately I am in some sort of pressure cooker and when the steam is reaching the maximum pressure point I fly off the handle, only to regret what I said a little later. I pray then for forgiveness, patience and please God keep me mellow! Fortunately I learned to apologize for this behavior. On top of that, everything I do or say comes with an overdose of zeal, *sigh*.

What I am going through, is simply the fact that there are things happening that I must learn how to handle, and I obviously haven't mastered it yet..
A few friends here know what I am referring to. I am best kept in a vacuum sealed bag in a sea of patience, only to be opened in times of crisis. The label would say: Do not open unless the house is on fire.

So it would be best for me to ask everyone for forgiveness and a lot of patience. Thank you and God Bless ALL.

You're you... and you are loved!

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:25

He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers... Malachi 4:5,6

And what do you want to say with that, voice?

(voice) I have been trying to figure out your avatar for a while...it looks like a knee covered in feathers.

This is kinda what I mean, someone copy/pastes some verses, with totally no explanation, logs out, leaving me wondering what this cryptic verse copying means, and instead of an answer, someone else starts totally off topic talking about an avatar.

Honestly it gives me grey hair to hold my patience.

maybe you will reconsider and stick around...

i have quit the forum about 3 times already.
don't know...but sometimes i get really good advice
and counsel or home remedies that are really
spiritual remedies...grin.

stay! no need to go anywhere else...

J, that was a courageous thing to own up to. I have problems as well in my walk with Christ...All I got to say it (my relationship with Christ) is the hardest thing that I love.

well i have a lot of patience with you spare mum lol. *builds a little house, sets it on fire* can i let you out now???

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:25

He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39




For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:25

He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 10:39

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers... Malachi 4:5,6

voice, stop trashing this thread, I asked you what you meant, and the repetition of your copy is highly annoying and interfering.
go play somewhere else if your ability to communicate consists of only repetitious copy/pastes.

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(Justice @ Jun 16 2008, 10:30 AM) I have been enormous grumpy lately

I realize it

I also realize that it burdens the forum

I count it totally my own doing

I am not always the most pleasant person with the most pleasant and sweet messages

Lately I am in some sort of pressure cooker

I fly off the handle, only to regret what I said a little later

I pray then for forgiveness, patience

keep me mellow

I learned to apologize for this behavior.

everything I do or say comes with an overdose of zeal

there are things happening that I must learn how to handle

I obviously haven't mastered it yet


I am best kept in a vacuum sealed bag

The label would say: Do not open unless the house is on fire.

So it would be best for me to ask everyone for forgiveness

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
John 8:43



Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John 5:25



11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. Deuteronomy 30:11-14

And who are you to tell me that I do not do this? I can not hear God's Word? That is new. But when you quote the Word, than at least show me that you do not random quote to satisfy your own ego, but to truly have communion with me.

So once again: what did you say?

voice, why do you just quote verses from the bible and not explain what you are talking about when you just keep repeating the verses?? im just curious is all.

this made me laugh