First let me let you know a little bit about how I first figured out that the bible was all a bunch of crap.
Back when my mother and father would take me to Sunday school, (I think this was when I was 5 or 6) I would sit there in Sunday school trying to figure out why these people were trying to teach us these stories and say that they were true! Kids at that age will believe everything, yet I somehow managed to think for myself. Every single story that I learned about, I felt had to be as fictitious as Scientology and Santa Clause. I do understand that this is my own belief and I shouldn't be bothering you all, but I would love to ask... why would anyone think this book is based on fact?? The stories are no more creative then the old nursery rhymes your mothers would read to you before bed. NOTHING in the bible has ever been proven, and I don't think it ever will. If your "god" wants peace on earth and is all knowing and all seeing, why do thousands of people die worldwide due to famine, war , suicide, etc. Wouldn't he have warned someone ahead of time? Wouldn't he have stepped in and stopped this before it happened? .

Well you are with in your rights to disagree even though i will not support your views or will i agree by what you have left hear

that is why i love the freedom we have today compared to others who do not have the freedom we have the freedom to say what we want the freedom to vote for who we want the freedom to believe in what we want to believe in

we live in ripe countrys where people are allowed to express them selves and live out their life to how it suits them my country Australia has not experianced what other countrys have the australians i talk to have not grown up in a war torn country like i have or would a rich australian know what its like to go with out or live in a run down motel and sleep on a floor that smells of urine and use a dirty old carpet to keep warm threw our winters


though their are certain people who have no say in how they live their life or who they vote for and yes god is so mean god does not care he sits in heaven and allows human kind to destroy it self

i too use to think like you i too use to think that this bible we all have heard preached to us was not real i also use to think that it was just made up by some cranky fathers to keep their kids in line



so why are you hear why have you decided to place this in a christian forum are you hear to argue or are you searching how can we help you ?

if you are hear to argue than may i suggest that you find a secular forum live out your life as i have seen that no matter what we say guys like your self will never come around

But when you stand before god you can tell god why he allowed what you see unfolding before you to happen

what you see unfolding in front off you is done by mans own hands not gods hands how can god sit back and allow innocent people die how can god sit back and allow the people in africa to suffer how can god sit back and allow the two planes that hit the twin towers kill inocent people ?

how can god allow the poor to suffer how can god allow the inoncent people in myanmar starv and how can god alow so much distruction like the damage katrina did and what we have seen happen in china

its so easy to blame god its so easy to say you are a fake

have you read the bible or are their certain passages in the bible that you disagree with ?




God bless from damo

If everyone on earth was as vain and faithless as you. God would have burned the place with you in it long ago.

To God you are just another monkey chattering up in the tree.

Then when the great tribulation comes you will serve as a food supply for the real devils of the earth until Christ returns and throws them into the Lake of fire.

So you see it was never about you darwin feeder fish in the first place.

It has always been about those who Love Him.

If you don't have the Spirit to search for Him and find Him then you are indeed a animal for the purpose you were created to serve.

You all serve His purpose no matter what.

Hi Pastafarian..welcome to the board! I like your name..it made me laugh.

I think it's great that you came here to ask questions. There is nothing wrong with you doing so. If we can help you understand that the Bible is actually from God....Great! You don't have anything to lose by hanging out here and talking. Don't feel like because you don't hold our belief that you're not welcome to ask questions. How else do we learn?

Let me ask you a few questions... Do you believe that President Bush is our president? Do you believe that Hurricane Katrina actually hit New Orleans? Do you believe that eight track tapes actually existed?

My point in these questions is that...in a few hundred years from now, when these accounts are written in someone's history book...will they believe it?


My suggestion is to pick up a bible and read the New Testament...It tells the account of Jesus on earth. Say a little prayer...even if you're not enitrely sure you believe there is a God. Something like this... Ok God, I'm taking this ladies suggestion and I'm going to read this...if you really want me to know something then let me understand it..I'm open to learn. That's it! Just try it...what do you have to lose?

God is real honey...take a chance.
Blessings to you..
Love, Lisa

Hey mon, me bibell iz realll. Tiz di truth mon! I hawv eet here weet me. Read eet too.

Let me guess, you are from de Islands, eh? Smoking weed will not draw you closer to God though. I think being on an island would be closer to God than smoking anything would.

Funny, you don't look like a rasta. Too pale.

Naw mon, I'm eento di pasta!

oh great...here's just another Adolescent who thinks "The Flying Spaghetti Monster" is a funny Mockery of god...and you thought Christians were gullible...



go back to youtube kid...tell all your friends how "cool" you are now because you "Bashed and Made Fun Of those silly bible thumpers..."



in the not too distant future...someone please delete this thread...thank you.

Does anyone think the book is based on fact?


I didn't think the Bible was in the business of having "creative" stories to begin with.


Right, but that's because it's a history book.

By the way, didn't we find a large ark on the mountains in Turkey?


Because God gives them free will.

Christians don't actually believe children dying is a bad thing in any way. That's because they believe in an eternal happiness after death.

But when an earthquake happens and kills lots and lots of Muslim adults, then in that case, you might have a moot point.


Apprently, God values people's after life more than their Earth life. So it doesn't matter how sufferable your life on Earth is, only your after life.


Neal C.

Ah yes, mock Roxygal.


Good point.

I'll continue.

To Pastafarian:

Words words words and words.. this topic should not be discussed.. i won't waste my time and try to proof that GOD exists, I know he does, and my point is,
' As ya know, the Latest Religion that came out was Christianity, with the Crowned Bible! no one can discuss this, If ya read Carefully this saint book, u'll
notice that everything 'Scientists reached' is already stated in the Bible, Everything is wrote and explained in a perfect way, you must be blind if ya can't
see this.. READ that book.. you can find it translated.. then come and talk bout GOD !! cuz once ya read and understand it.. u'll know that he's the ONE and ONLY.. and u'll realize that u've lost ya time, then u'll try to do anythin' to erease what ya used to say bout GOD, and ask for his pardon to avoid his punishment! I won't add any post concerning this subject. May GOD show ya the right way.. Peace.

damo7 and Roxygal, you have both made comments that surprised me. I find this to be rather refreshing, though I do not support your views and never will, I will say thank you for being so considerate. Yes I am merely here to ask a question and not make an --- of myself by arguing, and no I am not necessarily blaming god. If you were to create all of this, then wouldn't you want to step in a stop all of this? Believe me when I say that I have tried to believe in god. It didn't get me anything and it didn't get me anywhere. I never felt enlightened, I almost felt worse. I felt as though god was just a kid with an ant farm, merely watching what we do and not really caring. This never made sense to me so I gave up on it.

And Snorch, you say that I will burn in hell, but isn't that just your opinion? Is there an actual rulebook that says who is and who isn't going to burn in hell? And don't say the bible; I'm talking about a book that can be 100% reliable. You say that it has always been about those who love him. You give all your praise to Jesus, but I don't think he cares anymore. He gets the idea that you all think he's great! If I were him, I would actually be *** off with all the praise I would be getting. You also do the same with god, and if he were real, that is probably the reason why he has given up on caring for us. Everyone has praised the living crap out of him!

Wow! he's still up there swinging around chatering at you snorch. Hey little monkey it's not about a book. It is about loving God, Finding God, Asking God. See little monkey, God is Living and will come and talk to you and answer all of your questions Himself. But you have to go search and find Him First.

Opinion doesn't stop God, especially mans opinion.

Oh I'm just getting started Charlie. I now ask you all, how much faith do you have with your own church? Do you really trust the people who are running this religion? Christians have been waging war on people they didn't like for thousands of years. We Pastafarians haven’t laid a finger on anyone. It may be difficult to take in but your church is corrupt. Let me give some evidence of this, today is the dreaded Friday the 13 yes? Well some thousand years ago, the Knights Templar were traveling around Europe crusading in the name of god. They were never with the church but they were indeed doing their part in the name of god. They also invented what we nowadays call banks, and began bringing in a lot of money. The church began to see this as a threat but didn't do anything about it. That is until the Knights Templar became even more powerful then the church itself! Now the church was *** and rounded up every single member of these noble knights, and on Friday the 13, they crucified, and burned alive every single person. If that isn't corruption, then let your god smite me down now.

Hay Pastafarian



i am not going to mock you but i am seeing that you are hear to argue so you have been let down you find it hard to believe what the bible has to say and you feel that we are wasting our time believing in a god that does not care for man kind

as you said its like he has an ant farm and he just does nothing to prottect the innocent ones


when god convicted me i came close to killing a drug dealer i should be serving time instead he reached out to me and has shown me how much he loves me

as i said to you in my post you are with in your free will to hold on to your views i will not bash you over the head

for most off my life i mocked god i gave christians a hard time and as i said i thought this bible was made up by some cranky fathers to keep their kids in line

I grew up in a war torn country i did not have a normal life or did i get dealt a good hand i have had to fight to survive and i have had to put up with a fair bit off crap i am covered in tattoos and when i step foot into a church the so called religous nuts give me this evil look its like you are not welcome


i have no family i have been on my own since i was 14yrs old my old man was a violent drunk he took his anger out on me and my mother and my sister thou i dont hate him i have forgiven him i have been able to see how hard it was for him all his brothers and his father and my father served in the croation army know my brother is serving in the croation army he is a snipper i am the only one that decided not to

because of my criminal history i cant become a police officer or serve in the army if i behaved did what my teachers asked me to do and got A like my sister i could have Joined the police force or become a soldier

i decided to go the other way it was my choice but i blammed god for what ever happend in my life

know i dont blame god like i use to

as i said its so easy to blame god come on a chrisitan forum and just trash what we hold close to our hearts

i did time twice and i found my self in the harshes jails just before i got transfered to a prison farm the prisoners decided to riot and the gaurds used tear gas to calm the inmates down i was in the van weighting we had 8 guys on one side and 8 guys on the other side and i can tel you it was not a comfterbal ride to the prison farm the toilet stunk and you had to put up with the smell comming from the toilet the gaurds did not care

when god convicted me in 2001 i had a drug dealer by the throat and i came close to ending his life

today i pray for guys like the drug dealer i nearly killed

my home was a run down old building i searched threw the bins for food i also would go to one of the dumpsters behind this supper market and get fresh food that was thrown

what i have today is off god all i had when i first gave my life to god was a pair off jeans that where torn and a torn shirt on my shoes smelt and so did my socks


i have faith that god is real and i have faith that he hears what we say to him and i know for fact that he sees what we are going threw


search him out your problem is not with me or the members who have responded to you you need to come before god and tell him that you dont believe he is real and then sit in silence and weight for him to respond

i am sorry that you feel this way thou i will not pitty you or support your views



God bless from damo

You are just getting started Pasta?

Nothing that you have said yet means anything.

Weighing wheather God exists or not by what a faithless and perverted world has done just makes you another one of them.

Put on rags and go into the wilderness and don't eat anything or drink anything for fourty days. Cry out for God to show you. He will come to you just like He promised.
Then you will know for certain that God exists and keeps His promisses to everyone.
Including the promise to destroy those who hate Him.
It is all just about over now.
A few more years and the Kingdom of God will be here and the world that you know will be gone.

All of the miracles that Christ did that are written in the bible are true. Your faith is supposed to be in that power of God and not in the ramblings of man. See what this world has done to you and see what you have done.

So now all you need to do is repent or die.

damo7, your story is truely touching, and I do wish you good fortune, but I have already given god a few chances. Every time he has failed me, but I do not look at this as a bad thing. It makes me feel good because I am strong enough that I can continue on through life without his help or guidence. The thing is, you don't need a religion or god to live a normal life. I must say that I have not had the hard life that you have but I also have a horrable burden on my shoulders. I sadly have ADD, and because of it, almost everything in life will be twice as hard for me. It also makes me much more prone to depression that can even lead to suicide. In fact I had a mental breakdown of depression last weekend, but I can still live on every day with an optomistic attitude without gods help.

Don't confuse religion with faith.
There is more to loving God then going to church on sundays.
Realize religion is founded on the books of the Bible, not the other way around.
Just because you do not believe in religion, does not mean you should be so quick to turn your cheeck to the Bible.
Where must the facts come from to be sufficently correct for you?
If the TV testified to it? The radio? A popular scientific magazine?
Realize darwinism is a theory, created by a man, this same man actually denyed his own theory on his death bed!
It is an unproven theory, and a there are alot of sciencetists who believe in Creationism, the greater you study the world, the more you realize it isn't a bunch of random events.
The word coincidence, is just another way to say "I can't explain it", which is what many theories such as darwinism are founded upon!
What were you thinking in school when they told you that you evolved from a monkey?
Your right, kids do believe anything.

I never read the bible or heard its stories until I was 18, after I had read many manmade theories and came to the conclusion they were severly lacking. I suggest you question your foundation, how did we get here? Where did we come from? Why are we here? What happens after death? What happens before birth? Why are you like how you are? Why are people so different?
Darwinsim would have you believe, it just happened, random events.
If that was true, then my life has been full of so many amazing coincidences.

I beleive there is alot of conditioning happening in this world, it happens when you turn on the TV, read the newspaper. There exists powerful men with an agenda, and people are much easier to control if they believe they evolved from monkeys. Question the facts and the source of those facts which you are using to refute the Bible, these so called facts arenot what they seem.

Hay Pastafarian


i hear you my first son to my first girl friend has autisem right now i am trying to track him down my x wife was in regular contac with his grand mother one off our friends who lives where i am living know has known my first sons grandmother since she was young

its hard enough having to face what i did i stuffed up a fair bit when i was young i was not responsible as some of my male friends where i slept around with diffrent women i met my first sons mother in a youth refuge we were both young i broke the big rule no sleeping around with the female residents

something attracted me to marks mother

i am having to trust that god is watching over my first son who has autisem i have two boys mark is 16 but has the mind frame of a 15yr old last i heard he has gotten him self into a fair bit off trouble his grand mother cant handle him when he was living with his grandmother he tried to kill her and he tried this with his mother who kicked him out

his mother would rather be in the company off her husband who is a herroin dealer then being a responsible mother she has been in trouble with docs in your country family services

i am doing my best to be calm and not loose it al i heard is he needs your help when i was maried my x wife did not want my son living with us his grandmother kept on pushing me to take him into our home i said to her if i took mark on i would loose my first wife and my new born child


so i know what it must feel i have two friends who have ADD this is why i am not going to mock you i know where you are at like you i wanted nothing to do with god or the people who new me in my first church

i allowed to much of the world to take control instead off allowing god to deal with my anger and what i had been threw i became my old man and soon started to behave like he did my wife left me she took off with my son and it took 6 yrs before i was able to say sorry to her

i crushed her spirit and took my anger on my new born child i could not love him as i had no love shown to me but know i am slowly getting the second chance to know my youngest son


i will respond when i come back i have to make a ph cal i hear you and i understand


god bless from damo

Again you amaze me with your stories damo7. But now I want you to, just for a moment, that god truely didn't exist. You have done all of those things on your own, with no ones help, or anyones guidense. Thats how I feel everyday when I get up. It's a very good feeling.

High pastafarian



i am only alowing you to see that i am human as you are i know the peace i am feeling know is off god the peace the world gives us is nothing compared to what god gives us when we cry out to him and ask him for his help

i cant even compare what it must be like for you i know it can be hard having to face the world every day and then having to deal with what you have pointed out to me

i know what you are saying pastafarian as i said i too mocked god at one stage and said to my self you cant exist

thou what changed for me is when i started to seek him out i said one simple prayer lord i want to believe but i am finding it hard to believe what i am reading if you are who you say you are prove to me that i am dealing with a real god i do not want to preach or share this gospel to my mates and those i know if this is all made up

i also asked god to help me deal with my doubt thomas was like us he did not believe that it was Jesus standing in front off him he wanted some hard proof before he accepted that it was Jesus standing in front off him

every time i did this where i was open and said lord prove your self he responded

honestly if i did not have the peace i am feeling know i would be a nerves wreck




John 20


24 Thomas one of the twelve who was called the twin wasnt with them when Jesus came

25 So the other disciples kept telling him we have seen the lord But he told them unless I see the nail marks in his hands put my finger into them and put my hand into his side i will never believe


this is what it was like for me when i first heard the gospel preached in the church i found my self sitting in i found it hard to accept what the pastor was saying i wanted to leave but something or some one was holding me back the pastor preached on lazarus and the rich man luke 16 v 19 - 31


what lazarus went threw got me to the point where i found my self down the front the fight i had in me i could no longer fight him i found my self standing in front of people who did not know me i was shaking from the inside and not one person knew what hapend or what was going on



this is what thomas said to and many have said what i have said and what you are facing know


can i ask what made you turn away why are you finding it hard to believe have you also been let down by the people you knew if so dont hold this against them they are only human


thank you for allowing me to see who you are i hear you my friend


god bless from damo

What ar eyou going to do when God takes the water and food from the Planet and the only way to eat and drink is through faith in Him? That is what is coming up so forget about how poor and suicidal an add you are and get out there and find the Living God.

Pastafarian,

Pasta, your posts do not portray a happy, joyful and hopeful soul. What is the hope that you have within you? What gives you joy? What in life makes you so happy that this brings about a spring to your step?

Can we clarify one point in your post? You posted, "I had a mental breakdown of depression last weekend,..." Since I not only work in a psychiatric hospital today, but yesteryear I spent time as a patient in a mental hospital. The proper term that you wish to use is that I am suffering clinical depression, a form of depression that can be treated on an out patient basis. But a person suffering from a mental breakdown needs to be hospitilized.

At one point in my life I was hurting so bad that I was suicidal. Every piece of physical, spiritual, and emotional well being was gone. I was a basket case and yep I was locked in a hospital. I not only hated myself, I hated everyone including God. You posted, "... I can still live on every day with an optomistic attitude without gods help." Excuse me for saying this, your attitude doesn't appear to be very positive. Do you have a reason to be positive, healthy and happy? What gives you shivers of expectation? Perhaps you can't find God because you are seeking many gods? (that's what your post says) But whatever the reason, I just really need to say that it was at the lowest and saddest day of my life that Christ found me. If it weren't for God, I would be dead. Hey, Pasta ever survive driving drunk 30 miles and while driving having the impulse to slam your car into a tree? You might have the abilty to live without your gods but I have neither the will nor the ability to want to live my life without my GOD!

Your posts are also confusing Christianity and religion. Easy mistake to make but religion and Christianity are not the same. I agree with you in that religions have done more harm to the human race then they can imagine. Religions are still hurting people with their apathatic approach in very real problems in a hurting society. IMHO, the world needs less religion and more Christianity.

Pasta, Christianity is all about a MAN...

Shalom,

Al

Incredible. Suicidal with mental breakdown and you still maintain that you are getting along fine without God. As a young man I also suffered depression. At one point I felt that my life was worthless. So I took my worthless life and gave it to God as a living sacrifice. Needless to say I have never had depression since. God wants us to give over 100% of our life. This may seem harsh but this is God's prerogative as God. He created us and when we fell away into rebellion and sin he paid with his Son's life to redeem us. Therefore we are bought and paid for as God's special possession

Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted [2] in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


The extraordinary thing about all of this is that once we give up our lives in service to God a strange thing happens. Rather than being destitute and exploited as we would expect from a human master we find that God treats us as a loving Father, giving to us bountiful gifts of love joy peace patience. Would you like to have joy and peace? What would you be prepared to pay for such a gift? Would you not sell all that you owned for such a treasure? Many people win millions of dollars in lotto but does that bring them joy? No because joy is not something which comes from the earthly realm. Joy is a gift which comes from the heavenly realm to us by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

So the scripture truly states
Matt 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Of course it is too late for you because you have hardened your heart against God. You will never bend your knee to him, you will forever strike your fist at him no matter how bad your life gets. You are suicidal and you will not turn to God. Suffering ADD and still you will not turn to God. Suffering mental depression and still you will not turn to God. Truly I say that you will stand on the brink of the lake of fire and feel the heat of it upon your brow and you will continue to rage against God shaking your fist at him. And that will be the last thing you ever do.

I have to take my hat off to you Cube!

You certainly have not toyed with this kitty.

Pastafarius sought to unite the world through the common bond of love of spaghetti. Yes, he was ridiculed as having lost his noodle, of being a meatball and even being the Anti-Pasta. He could be quite saucy with his detractors. In the end he got his just desserts.

But we are far more than what we eat. Man shall not live by pasta alone, but by every word from God. Seriously, you can't put God to the test. He is not yours, but you are His. Submit to Him and He will help you.

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John

Charlie that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Drinking from his faith? This is a serious discussion, we need to try and keep it that way.



Christianity is a religion. There is no confusion there. During the course of human history, anyone who has acted in the name of god has either killed, or waged entire wars on someone. That, and the morals that come with these religions are supposed to be good, however there are major flaws in these that are totally against human nature. Catholics priests for instance are against marrying, sex, and pretty much anything else that makes us human. So what happens? Little boys are being molested because these priests are lonely, bored, and ready to explode. These are the morals that RELIGION has put upon FAITH.



I experience joy and peace every single day. I experience it without thinking or regarding god. I have PROVEN that you don't need god to feel this way. That is just as good as proving that god does not exist. I truly do not mean to offend, but the reason you all gave your heart to god was because you were all to week to handle what was going on in your life. I have PROVEN that you can overcome feelings of depression without god. I don't need your god, so I will survive your lake of fire, and whatever else your god can throw at me. Though I suffer from a mental disease, I am mentally stronger then all of you.

Have you ever read the bible? and not when you were six..I mean as an adult.

You want to see the REAL Word of God?

Watch the skies, check the news. The warnings have not been heeded.
Then prepare and brace yourselves, for the real shaking will now start.

I started to, but I stopped because I don't trust anything in the bible. The morals are there, but the stories are as fake as Michael Jackson’s nose. Especially Adam and eve, seriously, that's the most bull I've ever heard.

Have you ever read the New Testament? When I first read the bible, I found it very hard to get through the Old testament. It didn't make any sense whatsoever. I understand that you don't trust it, but you haven't even read the testimony of Jesus.

All I'm suggesting is that you find a bible...even online.. and read the New testament. Starting with the book of Matthew. The first part of Matthew is about the geneaology of Jesus. Chapter 5 is the start of Jesus' ministry.

Just say a little prayer... Ok God, this is your chance to convince me what the truth is..amen. And then READ it! It won't burst into flames and burn your hair off, I promise. Just read it without judging it first.

It may even interest you to listen to it online..plug in your headphones and listen.

Your vanity won't even allow you to hear or read what was said.

No one said anything about burning in Hell little monkey.

But you don't have any foundation for understanding.

You are not fit for the kingdom of God.

Charlie gave you good advise so follow it or die like an animal.

Nevertheless you serve His purpose anyway and you go to the place prepared for the heathen.

Not believing in God is a sin and the wages of sin is death.

God is not going to hold you over a fire for eternity little monkey.

Because you are not that important .

You will be separated from life for ever and no one will remember you at all.

While those who love God will Live forever in a world of new things that your mind of flesh can't even comprehend.





This is serious mental illness.

You have given God chances?

No wonder you are sick.

Or maybe you didn't create that god properly "Almighty Monkey".

Now this is the story all about how
My life got flipped, turned upside down
And Id like to take a minute just sit right there
Ill tell you how I became the prince of a town called bel-air

Can someone kick that Pasta Bolognese out, for he has now on three visible accounts violated the Statement of Faith of the Forum?

Do we really need more snares than we already see?

Thank You.

Hang on to the roof of your house Pasta.

You don't even know what joy and peace are. You do not have joy and peace one minute and then suicidal thoughts the next. I am happy to admit that I am weak and cannot handle life on my own. This is part of our confession as Christians. Part of humbling ourselves is that we confess to God that we cannot live on our own and that we need him every second of the day.

You are clearly an extremely deluded young man. How is having a mental disease proof that you are mentally stronger. Thats an oxymoron. That's like saying a man with a disease racked body is stronger than a man with a healthy body. I'd have a mental disease as well if God did not restore my soul and renew my mind daily.
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.


How do you think that you will survive the Lake of Fire. Which man ever cheated death? You will die just like the rest of us. Do you think you have the power to ascend into heaven and live eternally do you? Christians have the hope of the resurrection whereas all you have to hope for is the grave and that there is no such place as hell.

You see whereas you have to battle on with life dealing with everything yourself. I have an Almighty God who deals with a whole range of things for me. This makes my life easy and joyful.

On the other hand your mental disease is proof that you are not able to cope with the rigours of life. However Jesus provides a relief for us.
Matt 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Think of it this way. If you were a weedy kid at school getting bullied and picked on and then some tough kid took a liking to you and stood up for you chasing away the bullys. How would you feel toward that kid who helped you out. Would you curse him for helping you and tell him to clear off because you are coping just fine. No of course not. Only a fool would do that.

Jesus is just like that big tough kid in the schoolyard. He helps us out against the bullies of the world. It is no coincidence that he comes for the poor, the downtrodden, the sick and the diseased. He loves their humble heart and wants to take them under his wing and look after them.

By comparison to Jesus, you scorn the poor and weak, not even realising that you are poor and weak yourself.

I still love that show.



I have not come here to *** and rant aimlessly just because I have some steam to blow off. I have come here to have an intellectual discussion about why god and religion are, not only unnecessary nowadays, but also corrupt. From the answers I am receiving, it would seem as though some people are inconsiderate of other peoples opinions, and don't want me here. Well I will be here until my message has been put out. I am not here to convert any of you. I merely want your opinion, and I want to show you a different way of thinking. Some of you however simply can't handle the fact that your god could very well be fake, and others are merely unsure of what to say, so they attack me with prejudicial statements that I at least have the courage to let go by. It appears that it is not me who is the bad guy here; it is those who can't open up to ideas of change.



You my friend are the perfect example of what I spoke of. You all speak of my death as if it were really going to happen. That sounds like it's a threat. Jesus wouldn't want you to be threatening death upon a young man such as myself would he? Who's the sinner now?

Listen carefully Pasta. I will ask God to show Himself to you. You better prepare.

It's been a few hours now and I'm still waiting. Do you think god could speed it up a little?

The fact that you have been waiting for two hours, means that you have HOPE.

The fact that nothing has happened yet means there's no GOD.

The fact that you are here proves that there is a God.

That is To those with more sense, than that of a trained animal.

Which also proves that your lot in life, to date, is that of the heathen.

Not everyone is called and not everyone called is chosen.

Everyone will serve the purpose that they were created for.

So why are you here taking up bandwidth little monkey?









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I will witness before the Throne of God that very day, that Pasta has denied you Oh Good and Loving God.
So God, IF You love Pasta, then we order in Italian, ok?

Hay Pastafarian


i have been reading what has been left for you please do not let this throw you off is there any one you can talk to where you are living the reason i am saying this some times it is good to have another oppinion

i know where you are comming from and i just want to say why give up know ?

ask the hard questions read the bible seek god out tell him that you doubt him he is not going to zap you this is what use to crack me up

the nuns use to always say this too me god is going to zap me from heaven if i keep up the cursing i use to give the nuns a hard time

and i did this with the christians that use to come to the cross where i was working soon as this group hit the streets of kings cross the bouncers and prostitutes and pimps and bikes use to get together and give them a hard time

i said the very same thing what if this is what i would say and i had no honest responce

i cant lie to you or will i lie when i leave something for you pastafarian i am just a man who has come a long way

what i have know is of the lord if i did not ask the hard questions and give him a chance i would not be hear communicating to you

i can see why you are the way you are and as i said you have that free will to do this no one is going to take your free will off you

if you want god to respond then seek him out pastafarian


their are days that get me and when i am feeling down i come before god and i ask him to help me deal with what is going on

right now i am having to trust god my partner is a female pastor she lives in the philippines while i am working abroad in australia and weighting for the goverment in the philippines to aprove my citazenship for me to live their


i never expected to settle down i was at a point in my life where i had enough and just wanted to live out my life as a single man

my best friend who is an aborigonal pastor prayed with me and he would constantly tell me to give what i was feeling to god

when i stepped foot into the church he was pastoring i was a nerves wreck i was loosing it big time i was depresed and i was very angry i had to put up with what ever my x wife threw at me i picked a community where i was not known i decided to move to this farming community due to no one knowing who i was the cops did not even know me in the town i was living in the cops new me i was the one who would always end up being questioned due to the connections i had and the thugs i new so when ever something went wrong it was me they picked up not the criminals doing the crimes in the community i was living in


when i met my partner i was nerves i was on my own since 2000 i met her in 2006 and she showed me that she was intrested in me and not what i had done i shared to her what happend what i did to my x wife and to my son she just wanted me to see that she wanted me for me

i flew over to the philippines early this year with the lords help i had the chance to meet my partner and my in laws our wedding is this year and i thank god every day for what he has done in my life and what he has given me

i have no one to come home to when i am living hear in australia i have been on my own since i was 14 i am 40yrs old

that is why i am saying to you i do hear you dont let what you have read so far stop you from asking the hard questions


god bless from damo

Listen carefully Pasta. I will ask God to show Himself to you. You better prepare.

It's been a few hours now and I'm still waiting. Do you think god could speed it up a little?


The fact that nothing has happened yet means there's no GOD.

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Why dont you just ask God to reveal himself to your mind.... All this above nonsense its gonna work...
God loves you but dont play him like a punk.... Dont temp Him dont mock Him....

You dont need anyone on this forum to help you talk to God....Hes your Father like everyone else just be humble and ask Him the questions you have, if you are true He will point you to the answer....

You people don't seem to get it, well deno7 does, but you are all acting like typical Christians. All you people want is to convert everyone into your "perfect harmony". Well sorry about your luck but it will never happen. There are lots of us out there that have seen through the lies of religion and denounce god, yet have no ill effects. We don't need your false and corrupt ways, and neither do the poor Africans that your missionaries choke to death with white names and religious crap. What is so wrong with the religions that those people grew up knowing? Just because you people have the money to fly over there and tell them about your religion doesn't make their religions wrong. You people aren't saving humanity, your being an annoying inconvenience.

Apparently you talk out of your neck, for you have obviously not read any of my posts, plus everything you said about me is wrong and a concoction of the hatred in your mind and heart.

I am neither rich, nor corrupt, nor religious. I belong to no denomination, and God exists for I have seen Him.

Have a good day, religion-basher.

I'm bumping this up because I don't know if you saw this or not.

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hi pasta, nice to meet you.

I am assuming you are here to listen what Jesus' followers have to say about the Bible. so I would like to share how I value the Bible. I value the Bible especially the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). I like them because it is the most practical "how to" book in the world. Jesus tells us how we can be kind to everyone around us. I am only 9 year old in Christ even though I am not young. I was not so kind when I was non-believer even though I thought I am decent enough because I was not trouble maker or law breaking citizen. I thought I did not need God as long as I am kind enough to all around me. But Jesus thought me what I was doing was not enough to live happily. He showed me how I can do better in every situation no matter what.

He taught me I am happier to live if I know how to give myself for others. I am not using Jesus words because you don't know Jesus, yet. I just want you find Him out by yourself by reading the Gospel and followe what Jesus teaches. You never know Jesus unless you practice what He says in your life.

I can tell you many more how wonderful Jesus is but I do not want to bore you with my ineloquent words.

May God help you to understand Jesus by reading the Gospel with sincere and open heart.

In Jesus' love, follower.

As one of my rights to free speech I would like to put forth another statement regarding Jesus Christ himself. I don't think he was all that he said he was. Jesus was most likely just another David Blaine of 2000 years ago. I can prove this by explaining a few "amazing" things that he was able to accomplish. Walking on water was my favorite, but it's quite simple really. Some sailors were caught in a storm, thus giving bad visibility, and got stuck in an area where the water was quite shallow. Jesus happened to be in the area (probably at an encampment by the shore and saw the lights on the ship) so he merely walked out on the sand as if he were walking on water. Truly brilliant illusion. Jesus did die "for your sins" but I do not believe that is what happened. I believe he merely gained too much power through his illusions and his preaching that he was then killed off. His followers however took all of this far too seriously and continued to remember him. He did not die for your sins, he just became to powerful. Now it seems you Christians are getting revenge by keeping their own control at an all time high. Well not if the free thinkers can have anything to say about it. Soon people will most likely give up on this bothersome religion and continue on with their lives in a totally normal way with out your gods help.

Ok...we both have our own opinions of truth..fine. But have you ever read the New Testament? I'm not trying to catch you or convert you...I'm just curious.

Peter walked on water as well... for a little bit, and Jesus came out to meet him.