I am posting this, not for duscussion, but just for anyone who is looking for this sort of thing on the internet!
The 40-years (a generation) can be viewed adjusted or non-adjusted. They both work together with the difference between them accumulating in a meaningful way. For example, after 483 years (as per Daniel 9:24-27) there are 1260 + 1260 days (84 leap months) accumulated (and 12 generations of 40 years in 480 years). Thus, after 486.5 years (3.5-years more), we have another leap month or 1260 + 1290 days (85 months), (Dan. 12).
This is remarkable since the last seven of Daniel 9 also spans 1260 + 1290 days! The two come together are the very same juncture at 486 regular leap-month-adjusted years. This proves that the calendar is meant to be adjusted and nonadjusted, with the difference taking on a meaning of its own.
For more on the 490 and this series of posts see http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...indpost&p=16769
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Also see, the "seventy weeks" of Dan. 9 from Balance Bible Code to Hurricane Wilma as a sign. www.christian-forum.net/=18956
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For more on bible prophecy numbers in general see:http://www.360calendar.com/ and http://www.1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.org/
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I can't thank you enough for paragraph number two. I could not get that right...
But are you saying two calendars is workable? Would there be a yearly gain on devience?
Leia
But are you saying two calendars is workable? Would there be a yearly gain on devience?
Leia
The one that you see me use on the internet all the time is the one that is sychronized to our regular solar calendar (and Jewish calendar). But when it is not adjusted by leap months than it lags behind exactly seven years every 70 x 7 years.
Have you ever heard of the popular idea that there are 70 x 7 years till messiah, less the one seven (as per Dan.9) unto the Christ starting from the decree to Nehemiah? Its all over the internet. They use a non-adjusted 490 years, which is really just 483 years of normal time. (Actually, they reckon 483 non-adjusted years to be 476 literal/normal years.)
My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar. The bible prophecy calendar (360) is naturally adjusted like most other calendars. (An exception is the Muslim religious calendar. It is not adjusted either, but is strictly a lunar calendar.)
The primary 360 calendar is adjusted, as discussed on the 360 calendar web site. But both methods work in harmony. I rarely mention this fact since men cannot wrap their brains around it and it creates doubt. So why bother. But it is true. God's clock is both simple and complex. And that is just the nature of God! He would not be God, and th calendar would not be His if it were not both complex and simple, depending on what you want to look at.
For when understood properly, the 360 calendar of the prophets is the most simplest and most accurate calendar known to man. And it agrees with all the bible prophecy numbers completely which shows that this calendar is spoken of in the Bible, and no other religion can take credit ---though most do try to! (Look up the 360- day year and you will find a number of modern and ancient religions endorse it. But only the bible proves that it is the product of the one true God.
Have you ever heard of the popular idea that there are 70 x 7 years till messiah, less the one seven (as per Dan.9) unto the Christ starting from the decree to Nehemiah? Its all over the internet. They use a non-adjusted 490 years, which is really just 483 years of normal time. (Actually, they reckon 483 non-adjusted years to be 476 literal/normal years.)
My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar. The bible prophecy calendar (360) is naturally adjusted like most other calendars. (An exception is the Muslim religious calendar. It is not adjusted either, but is strictly a lunar calendar.)
The primary 360 calendar is adjusted, as discussed on the 360 calendar web site. But both methods work in harmony. I rarely mention this fact since men cannot wrap their brains around it and it creates doubt. So why bother. But it is true. God's clock is both simple and complex. And that is just the nature of God! He would not be God, and th calendar would not be His if it were not both complex and simple, depending on what you want to look at.
For when understood properly, the 360 calendar of the prophets is the most simplest and most accurate calendar known to man. And it agrees with all the bible prophecy numbers completely which shows that this calendar is spoken of in the Bible, and no other religion can take credit ---though most do try to! (Look up the 360- day year and you will find a number of modern and ancient religions endorse it. But only the bible proves that it is the product of the one true God.
shekel it is just more than my brain can handle at the time in my development....but i have seen things that only come to be understood later...
but the initial groundwork is laid.
may i add something that, in my simplicity, was given for me to see?
it is very very simple. and i do not yet understand the full implications...
but as it is said, "all roads lead to rome"....and so the truth of God's word can be approached from many different aspects, all converging to a central point. (Jesus is the center) and i deeply appreciate your comments here...
you said: "My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar....But both methods work in harmony."
God indeed makes all things to work together...so that no man can boast! and who "knows it all", but GOD? He is marvelous! and is able to confound the wisdom of the wisest of men!
but here is something very simple.
9-11 had a deep impact on me. in my consequent search and journey from that point in time, i found this, (and all by gradual steps...not even understanding what i had learned, the pieces, until later, how they fit, and there are many! and now? i still do not have full understanding...)
but this is it:
"7 times" can be considered, (in one aspect) as
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
until later, i found, in the back of my old bible, a small chart of the table of bible books, when they were written and by whom...etc.
and i noted that there are very few, very few, books that are known with PRECISION as to when they were written...
but there are 2, (as there must always be at least 2 witnesses to establish a matter)
and they are positioned right next to each other!
in the canon, and they both begin their first verses with the DATE of the precise time of writing.....
and the books were written in the year 520 BCE....
the books are
Haggai and Zechariah.
and so i spent a great deal of time studying these, and have still so much to learn. but it is apparent that Zechariah is connected to Revelation in tone and lauguage. (..this is known and recongnized by many scholars)
but BOTH Haggai and Zechariah have everything to do with the finishing and re-building of the temple...the devestated temple of Solomon....and Zechariah carries things to a completion...even to the Day of Jehovah.
and there was no "Zerrubabel" (seed of babylon) and Joshua that carried out to completion the propecy as it is written..indicating future meaning.
But God is so great!
anyway, dear shekel, i just wanted to post this for you ...
it may be of some use to you, or may not...
i am still seeking and looking.
but there is much to say on this...indeed, i posted at L-E-N-G-T-H on it on an ex-jw forum, looking for assistance with it to look more deeply into the matter.... but i got booted off and cast out three different times...from 3 different forums, due to my speaking about these things.
but i am not discouraged. and i have found this place warm and inviting. and i have come to love the brothers and sisters here, very much so.
but here is just one intersting note (of many):
Haggai's writting, from start to end, covers precisely 112 days..
counting from 9-11-01, i did a simple calculation on a wed site designed for this purpose:
Calculation results
From date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Added 112 days
Resulting date: Tuesday, January 1, 2002
shekel, what i noted about the new years eve celebration here in America from Times Square in New York City that year, was this:
they actually split the celebration coverage (first time ever) to have it broadcast from 2 different places simultaneously...
from NY CITY, Times Square, hosted, as always, by Dick Clark,
and also from an OBSERVATORY, hosted by Peter Jennings....
what were they observing that year?
JUPITER. the "king of planets" ...with the big red 'eye'...which is really a HUGE hurricane on that planet. (the 'eye' of the 'big one')
it was closer to earth than ever then, and they were making, and taking, and plainly showing the world, (at least America), the great note of it.
what struck me about 9-11?
i said to myself...GOD IS WATCHING US!
and plainly, he is telling men everywhere to repent.
for HIS secret INSPECTION work had begun....(see SOS 2:8,9)
and i will tell you plainly....that i think the Real and true COVENANT of a PEACE treaty, is the one that is between Jesus and his followers in the New Covenant. and that He came to confirm it.....
but that is what is laid upon my own heart.
with love, and awaiting the Day...
for all things will be made plain and openly manifest.
-bz
but the initial groundwork is laid.
may i add something that, in my simplicity, was given for me to see?
it is very very simple. and i do not yet understand the full implications...
but as it is said, "all roads lead to rome"....and so the truth of God's word can be approached from many different aspects, all converging to a central point. (Jesus is the center) and i deeply appreciate your comments here...
you said: "My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar....But both methods work in harmony."
God indeed makes all things to work together...so that no man can boast! and who "knows it all", but GOD? He is marvelous! and is able to confound the wisdom of the wisest of men!
but here is something very simple.
9-11 had a deep impact on me. in my consequent search and journey from that point in time, i found this, (and all by gradual steps...not even understanding what i had learned, the pieces, until later, how they fit, and there are many! and now? i still do not have full understanding...)
but this is it:
"7 times" can be considered, (in one aspect) as
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
until later, i found, in the back of my old bible, a small chart of the table of bible books, when they were written and by whom...etc.
and i noted that there are very few, very few, books that are known with PRECISION as to when they were written...
but there are 2, (as there must always be at least 2 witnesses to establish a matter)
and they are positioned right next to each other!
in the canon, and they both begin their first verses with the DATE of the precise time of writing.....
and the books were written in the year 520 BCE....
the books are
Haggai and Zechariah.
and so i spent a great deal of time studying these, and have still so much to learn. but it is apparent that Zechariah is connected to Revelation in tone and lauguage. (..this is known and recongnized by many scholars)
but BOTH Haggai and Zechariah have everything to do with the finishing and re-building of the temple...the devestated temple of Solomon....and Zechariah carries things to a completion...even to the Day of Jehovah.
and there was no "Zerrubabel" (seed of babylon) and Joshua that carried out to completion the propecy as it is written..indicating future meaning.
But God is so great!
anyway, dear shekel, i just wanted to post this for you ...
it may be of some use to you, or may not...
i am still seeking and looking.
but there is much to say on this...indeed, i posted at L-E-N-G-T-H on it on an ex-jw forum, looking for assistance with it to look more deeply into the matter.... but i got booted off and cast out three different times...from 3 different forums, due to my speaking about these things.
but i am not discouraged. and i have found this place warm and inviting. and i have come to love the brothers and sisters here, very much so.
but here is just one intersting note (of many):
Haggai's writting, from start to end, covers precisely 112 days..
counting from 9-11-01, i did a simple calculation on a wed site designed for this purpose:
Calculation results
From date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Added 112 days
Resulting date: Tuesday, January 1, 2002
shekel, what i noted about the new years eve celebration here in America from Times Square in New York City that year, was this:
they actually split the celebration coverage (first time ever) to have it broadcast from 2 different places simultaneously...
from NY CITY, Times Square, hosted, as always, by Dick Clark,
and also from an OBSERVATORY, hosted by Peter Jennings....
what were they observing that year?
JUPITER. the "king of planets" ...with the big red 'eye'...which is really a HUGE hurricane on that planet. (the 'eye' of the 'big one')
it was closer to earth than ever then, and they were making, and taking, and plainly showing the world, (at least America), the great note of it.
what struck me about 9-11?
i said to myself...GOD IS WATCHING US!
and plainly, he is telling men everywhere to repent.
for HIS secret INSPECTION work had begun....(see SOS 2:8,9)
and i will tell you plainly....that i think the Real and true COVENANT of a PEACE treaty, is the one that is between Jesus and his followers in the New Covenant. and that He came to confirm it.....
but that is what is laid upon my own heart.
with love, and awaiting the Day...
for all things will be made plain and openly manifest.
-bz
QUOTE(blindzebra @ Oct 6 2005, 10:17 AM)
shekel it is just more than my brain can handle at the time in my development....but i have seen things that only come to be understood later...
but the initial groundwork is laid.
may i add something that, in my simplicity, was given for me to see?
it is very very simple. and i do not yet understand the full implications...
but as it is said, "all roads lead to rome"....and so the truth of God's word can be approached from many different aspects, all converging to a central point. (Jesus is the center) and i deeply appreciate your comments here...
you said: "My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar....But both methods work in harmony."
God indeed makes all things to work together...so that no man can boast! and who "knows it all", but GOD? He is marvelous! and is able to confound the wisdom of the wisest of men!
but here is something very simple.
9-11 had a deep impact on me. in my consequent search and journey from that point in time, i found this, (and all by gradual steps...not even understanding what i had learned, the pieces, until later, how they fit, and there are many! and now? i still do not have full understanding...)
but this is it:
"7 times" can be considered, (in one aspect) as
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
until later, i found, in the back of my old bible, a small chart of the table of bible books, when they were written and by whom...etc.
and i noted that there are very few, very few, books that are known with PRECISION as to when they were written...
but there are 2, (as there must always be at least 2 witnesses to establish a matter)
and they are positioned right next to each other!
in the canon, and they both begin their first verses with the DATE of the precise time of writing.....
and the books were written in the year 520 BCE....
the books are
Haggai and Zechariah.
and so i spent a great deal of time studying these, and have still so much to learn. but it is apparent that Zechariah is connected to Revelation in tone and lauguage. (..this is known and recongnized by many scholars)
but BOTH Haggai and Zechariah have everything to do with the finishing and re-building of the temple...the devestated temple of Solomon....and Zechariah carries things to a completion...even to the Day of Jehovah.
and there was no "Zerrubabel" (seed of babylon) and Joshua that carried out to completion the propecy as it is written..indicating future meaning.
But God is so great!
anyway, dear shekel, i just wanted to post this for you ...
it may be of some use to you, or may not...
i am still seeking and looking.
but there is much to say on this...indeed, i posted at L-E-N-G-T-H on it on an ex-jw forum, looking for assistance with it to look more deeply into the matter.... but i got booted off and cast out three different times...from 3 different forums, due to my speaking about these things.
but i am not discouraged. and i have found this place warm and inviting. and i have come to love the brothers and sisters here, very much so.
but here is just one intersting note (of many):
Haggai's writting, from start to end, covers precisely 112 days..
counting from 9-11-01, i did a simple calculation on a wed site designed for this purpose:
Calculation results
From date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Added 112 days
Resulting date: Tuesday, January 1, 2002...
---------.....
with love, and awaiting the Day...
for all things will be made plain and openly manifest.
-bz
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but the initial groundwork is laid.
may i add something that, in my simplicity, was given for me to see?
it is very very simple. and i do not yet understand the full implications...
but as it is said, "all roads lead to rome"....and so the truth of God's word can be approached from many different aspects, all converging to a central point. (Jesus is the center) and i deeply appreciate your comments here...
you said: "My point is that they are not wrong, but they are emphazing a side point in God's prophetic calendar....But both methods work in harmony."
God indeed makes all things to work together...so that no man can boast! and who "knows it all", but GOD? He is marvelous! and is able to confound the wisdom of the wisest of men!
but here is something very simple.
9-11 had a deep impact on me. in my consequent search and journey from that point in time, i found this, (and all by gradual steps...not even understanding what i had learned, the pieces, until later, how they fit, and there are many! and now? i still do not have full understanding...)
but this is it:
"7 times" can be considered, (in one aspect) as
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
until later, i found, in the back of my old bible, a small chart of the table of bible books, when they were written and by whom...etc.
and i noted that there are very few, very few, books that are known with PRECISION as to when they were written...
but there are 2, (as there must always be at least 2 witnesses to establish a matter)
and they are positioned right next to each other!
in the canon, and they both begin their first verses with the DATE of the precise time of writing.....
and the books were written in the year 520 BCE....
the books are
Haggai and Zechariah.
and so i spent a great deal of time studying these, and have still so much to learn. but it is apparent that Zechariah is connected to Revelation in tone and lauguage. (..this is known and recongnized by many scholars)
but BOTH Haggai and Zechariah have everything to do with the finishing and re-building of the temple...the devestated temple of Solomon....and Zechariah carries things to a completion...even to the Day of Jehovah.
and there was no "Zerrubabel" (seed of babylon) and Joshua that carried out to completion the propecy as it is written..indicating future meaning.
But God is so great!
anyway, dear shekel, i just wanted to post this for you ...
it may be of some use to you, or may not...
i am still seeking and looking.
but there is much to say on this...indeed, i posted at L-E-N-G-T-H on it on an ex-jw forum, looking for assistance with it to look more deeply into the matter.... but i got booted off and cast out three different times...from 3 different forums, due to my speaking about these things.
but i am not discouraged. and i have found this place warm and inviting. and i have come to love the brothers and sisters here, very much so.
but here is just one intersting note (of many):
Haggai's writting, from start to end, covers precisely 112 days..
counting from 9-11-01, i did a simple calculation on a wed site designed for this purpose:
Calculation results
From date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Added 112 days
Resulting date: Tuesday, January 1, 2002...
---------.....
with love, and awaiting the Day...
for all things will be made plain and openly manifest.
-bz
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Blindzebra, you aren't so blind! You understand more than you think!
You said:
QUOTE
"7 times" can be considered, (in one aspect) as
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
7 x 360.
=2520.
so, very simply i counted BACKWARD from 2001
going back 2520 years and it came to 520 BCE.
it meant nothing to me...
As it turns out I discuss this at length on my website. It is acurate to the day (not merely the year). I am happy to know that the Lord is confirming these things to others, even if they are being rejected!
http://www.bible-codes.org/mene-world-trade-center-3b.htm
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Picture Bible Code Prophecy
1260 x 2 years to the day from the two dates
given by the prophet Haggai,
unto when the Towers fell and Afghanistan was bombed
Part 2 of 2 parts of...
Parallels Between the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11,
and the Two Towers that Fell
(To part one)
Two dates are given by the prophet Haggai concerning the rebuilding of the temple and "shaking of all nations." The first on Elul 24th, 520 BC (Hag. 1:15), and in the very next verse: Tishri 21, 520 BC (Hag. 2:1). Tishri 21st is the last of the 7 days of the feast of tabernacles.
Now it happens that exactly 1260 x 2 years from these two dates are when the Twin Towers fell (Kabul, Afghanistan time, i.e., ancient East Persia), and when the American's retaliated by bombing Kabul---exactly to the day both times. (Click here for confirmation of this. Kabul is 8½ hours ahead of New York, and evening would have occurred about 6:25 p.m.)
The bible code also addresses Persia by name. Persia conquered and annexed what is now modern-day Afghanistan about the same year that Haggai and Zechariah prophesied!
The NIV Study Bible notes that Haggai's prophecy initially applied to Alexander the Great when he defeating Persia, but that the NT applies it to Christ's second coming:
"This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land,'" (Hag. 2:6).
NIVSB footnote reads:
"An announcement of the coming day of God's judgment on the nations---which the fall of Persia to Alexander the Great (333-330 B.C.) would foreshadow. Heb 12:26-27 relates this verse to the judgment of the nations at the second coming of Christ."{1}
The prophecy of Ezek. 31 is in agreement
with all that was in this document.
For the exact 945,000 days (1290 + 1335 years)
from Ezek. 31, click here.
One last thought:
We explained how that the building of the temple of Zerubbabel was begun 1260 x 2 years ---to the very day---before Sept. 11, 2001. [The biblical period of "1260 x 2 days" [2,520 days] is the same as 7 years of 360 days in each year.]
However, a seven-year period using the Jewish lunar calendar can last 2,539 days. Amazingly, from the time of the fall of Babylon [and therefore, 'the writing on the palace wall'] in Oct. 539 BC, till when the writing on the wall was published as a code [less than 52 days before the Twin Tower disaster], are also 2,539 days of years!
Surely, it cannot be coincidence that Sept. 11, 2001 is the juncture of these two reckonings of a seven-year period! Keep in mind that a seven-year period is prophesied of in Daniel, and reiterated in the book of Revelation! Moreover, on the night of the writing on the wall, Daniel rebuked Belshazzar for not paying attention to the punishment inflicted upon his father [Nebachadnezzar] when he was sentenced to seven-years of madness! As a matter of fact, the account of Nebachadnezzar's seven-year madness [Daniel 4] sets the stage in the biblical narrative for "the writing on the wall" [Daniel 5]. Therefore, to have this code again deciphered and published [along with the picture-bible code of the hand writing on the wall] seven years of years later, is compelling evidence for its divine origin---and that, therefore, the Twin Tower Tragedy is a warning to America.
America---the writing is on the wall---again!
For more numerical details, and a calendar conversion site, click here.
(Long after this article was written, 1260 days after 9/11, God allowed two great earthquakes to occur to further bring out the Two-Witnesses pattern. See those articles as well! See also Yasser Arafat, who died 1150 days after Twin Towers fell.)
Endnotes
1. Students of prophecy commonly consider the 7 days of tabernacles to be a type of the 7 years "tribulation period," (i.e., 1260 x 2 days.) Moreover, it is recorded in Ezra that 1260 days after the prophecy of Hag. 2:1 was the 7 days of Passover that they celebrated upon completion of the temple, (516 BC, Ezra 6:19-22). This is calculated by using the prophetic 360 days in a year. However, literally speaking there were 1263½ days---the number in Revelation 11:3 and verse 11, which concerns the two witnesses! Moreover, the total time from the start of the temple rebuilding (Hag. 1:15), to this same Passover (N.14 of Ezra 7:19) are 1290 actual days, (cf., Daniel 12:11).
For the sake of completion: Haggai's last recorded dates (Hag. 2:10, 20) both occurred 3 months after the Elul 24th date---that is, on Kislev 24, 520 BC. This happens to be the anniversary of the dedication of the temple in 165 BC---called "Chanukah,' when the prophecy of the "2300 evenings and mornings" (i.e., 1150 full days) was fulfilled, (Daniel 8:14). Now it happens that from the Kislev 24th prophecy, unto Adar 3rd, 516 BC, when the temple was completed, are exactly 1150 days! (Inclusive, and using the 360-days in a year, Ezra 6:15).
Will something else occur around Chanukah, AD 2001---1260 x 2 years after the prophecy, as it did on the other two dates of Haggai? We will have to wait and see. But be encouraged with these words from the book of Hebrews, said in regards to the prophecy of Haggai:
" See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire," (Heb. 12:25-29).
http://www.bible-codes.org/mene-world-trade-center-3b.htm
And see here as well:
http://www.bible-codes.org/mene-world-trade-center-3.htm
dear shekel...
i know and recognize
that the wisdom given you
is so much farther and above and beyond my own, and i recognize its Source. and its Source True.
what i have been given is small.
and you must know this...i found your site, years ago now, in my searching...and i saved it to "favorites"....
i knew that you saw that the towers were a "high sign"....
LOL (like a secret club "hi sign"? --i laugh alot!)
and what you have posted concerning the
"handwriting on the wall"
it is the truth.
in fact, in my own postings, on other boards before this last one here with you,
i stated those very words, over and over.....
so much so, they threw me over, and out! LOL HAAAA!!
but yes...9-11 is highly significant...
a sign-post marker in time..i KNEW it.
it was THE start off of the HUGE, EMERGENCY, WAKE-UP CALL!
to REPENTANCE!
fot the KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!
i have loved your work for God, and though i understand so little with my mind,
i do understand within my own spirit.
GO SHEKEL! MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!!
MAY YOU SPEAK WITH BOLDNESS
the GLORY OF OUR GOD!
love,
bz
i know and recognize
that the wisdom given you
is so much farther and above and beyond my own, and i recognize its Source. and its Source True.
what i have been given is small.
and you must know this...i found your site, years ago now, in my searching...and i saved it to "favorites"....
i knew that you saw that the towers were a "high sign"....
LOL (like a secret club "hi sign"? --i laugh alot!)
and what you have posted concerning the
"handwriting on the wall"
it is the truth.
in fact, in my own postings, on other boards before this last one here with you,
i stated those very words, over and over.....
so much so, they threw me over, and out! LOL HAAAA!!
but yes...9-11 is highly significant...
a sign-post marker in time..i KNEW it.
it was THE start off of the HUGE, EMERGENCY, WAKE-UP CALL!
to REPENTANCE!
fot the KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!
i have loved your work for God, and though i understand so little with my mind,
i do understand within my own spirit.
GO SHEKEL! MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!!
MAY YOU SPEAK WITH BOLDNESS
the GLORY OF OUR GOD!
love,
bz
the "two towers" were themselves a TYPE of the "two witnesses"
and also, the sons of Saddam...when i saw them dead..and they showed their pics on the news for days....
i knew that they too, were a foreshadowing TYPE
of the "two witnessess" as well...
God 'foreshadows' everything...he is the GREAT teacher and his Son, Jesus, was the one whom He sent to teach us concerning his Father.
Jesus said that he would go away, but that the Holy Spirit
would be sent in his name to teach us, even teach us concerning all things....
i get afraid sometimes. But i have placed my hope and faith and confidence in GOD. HE is our REFUGE and STRONG TOWER of STRENGTH.
love,
bz
and also, the sons of Saddam...when i saw them dead..and they showed their pics on the news for days....
i knew that they too, were a foreshadowing TYPE
of the "two witnessess" as well...
God 'foreshadows' everything...he is the GREAT teacher and his Son, Jesus, was the one whom He sent to teach us concerning his Father.
Jesus said that he would go away, but that the Holy Spirit
would be sent in his name to teach us, even teach us concerning all things....
i get afraid sometimes. But i have placed my hope and faith and confidence in GOD. HE is our REFUGE and STRONG TOWER of STRENGTH.
love,
bz
QUOTE(blindzebra @ Oct 7 2005, 10:07 AM)
dear shekel...
i know and recognize
that the wisdom given you
is so much farther and above and beyond my own, and i recognize its Source. and its Source True.
what i have been given is small.
and you must know this...i found your site, years ago now, in my searching...and i saved it to "favorites"....
i knew that you saw that the towers were a "high sign"....
LOL (like a secret club "hi sign"? --i laugh alot!)
and what you have posted concerning the
"handwriting on the wall"
it is the truth.
in fact, in my own postings, on other boards before this last one here with you,
i stated those very words, over and over.....
so much so, they threw me over, and out! LOL HAAAA!!
but yes...9-11 is highly significant...
a sign-post marker in time..i KNEW it.
it was THE start off of the HUGE, EMERGENCY, WAKE-UP CALL!
to REPENTANCE!
fot the KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!
i have loved your work for God, and though i understand so little with my mind,
i do understand within my own spirit.
GO SHEKEL! MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!!
MAY YOU SPEAK WITH BOLDNESS
the GLORY OF OUR GOD!
love,
bz
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i know and recognize
that the wisdom given you
is so much farther and above and beyond my own, and i recognize its Source. and its Source True.
what i have been given is small.
and you must know this...i found your site, years ago now, in my searching...and i saved it to "favorites"....
i knew that you saw that the towers were a "high sign"....
LOL (like a secret club "hi sign"? --i laugh alot!)
and what you have posted concerning the
"handwriting on the wall"
it is the truth.
in fact, in my own postings, on other boards before this last one here with you,
i stated those very words, over and over.....
so much so, they threw me over, and out! LOL HAAAA!!
but yes...9-11 is highly significant...
a sign-post marker in time..i KNEW it.
it was THE start off of the HUGE, EMERGENCY, WAKE-UP CALL!
to REPENTANCE!
fot the KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!
i have loved your work for God, and though i understand so little with my mind,
i do understand within my own spirit.
GO SHEKEL! MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!!
MAY YOU SPEAK WITH BOLDNESS
the GLORY OF OUR GOD!
love,
bz
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Yes, I too have been booted out of a popular forum once --- one that specialized in bible prophecy. I was talking about the peace treaty. I guess I wasn't a Hal Lyndsay parrot (with all due respect for Hal, he is a great teacher, but he is not GOD!)
When will God's people stop dishonoring their Living Head at the expense of pleasing their leaders and their peers?
You know what it was for me...And please no offense to anyone lost in that tragedy as he makes the sun rain to fall on all....
But it was the rain of papers coming down from that builing like snow...here was something so poiniant ......
And then Katrina.....It was the gambling boats thrust onto the shore....
What's not to see...Katrina and Rita....Birds of a feather.
Did you hear they want to turn it into a total gambling town now but the working poor class are gone and they can't get enough employes...Oh brother...
But it was the rain of papers coming down from that builing like snow...here was something so poiniant ......
And then Katrina.....It was the gambling boats thrust onto the shore....
What's not to see...Katrina and Rita....Birds of a feather.
Did you hear they want to turn it into a total gambling town now but the working poor class are gone and they can't get enough employes...Oh brother...
Did you hear they want to turn it into a total gambling town now but the working poor class are gone and they can't get enough employes...Oh brother...
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Yes.....doesn't that just make you sick?
Jeep
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Yes.....doesn't that just make you sick?
Jeep
fruitage, my dears, fruitage....
thiers is STINKING FILTHY ROTTEN FRUIT THAT IS SO ROTTEN THAT IT HAS TO BE THROWN AWAY!!!
all it attracts, that rotting "fruit", is FLIES!
thiers is STINKING FILTHY ROTTEN FRUIT THAT IS SO ROTTEN THAT IT HAS TO BE THROWN AWAY!!!
all it attracts, that rotting "fruit", is FLIES!
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First, I must ask that everyone set aside in total, ALL and EVERY commentary and otherwise extraBiblical information from the mind of man, reflecting that God had said to Daniel these words are sealed up till the time of the end; AND to seek to see if what your are about to read is true, using the plumbline of Scripture with all readiness of mind to see if a thing is so!!!
oh yeah, and you may wish to get a writing tool and maybe even a caluclator, expecting to take many of this difficult subject.
Most people agree that according to three of the four canonized gospels, only one Passover is mentioned, and it can be concluded from these accounts that Jesus had a short ministry spanning at the most one year, beginning at His Baptism and ending with the Crucifixion.
The gospel of John does appear to indicate a longer ministry for there are three different Passovers mentioned in it's text. These are in verses 2:13, 6:4, and 11:55. All should agree without contention that the Passover of Jn 11:55 is the one where He was Crucified.
I should mention the obvious here. There is only one year (360 days) between Passovers, and even if there were three conventional Passovers here, that could only confirm only a little over two years. We know from the times mentioned in John's Gospel that the Baptism was only a few months at most prior to Jn 2:13.
So, with this obvious evidence in the gospel of John, there is no scriptural reason for a claim of a ministry length of three or three and a half years. Many, however, cling to such as if it were fact. As it turns out, the 3 and a half years ministry length is a necessary component the present confusion of some popular 'last days' prophecy, supposing to help explain the so-called missing 7 years of Dan 9:25. There is no missing time at all there in Daniel.
In a study of Daniel and the 'weeks' prophecy, it has come to light that, indeed, Christ's flesh ministry was in fact a total of 434 days. It began at His baptism and ended on the second following Passover at the Crucifixion. There is a lot of scripture which builds to this conclusion, and we will go there. Following this, we will see the fulfillment of Dan 9:24, the seventy weeks, written in the accounts of the New Testament.
Before we look at the Passover of Jn 6:4 in detail, which we will shortly do, lets look into the Prophets and the Law in the context of those things written in John's gospel, which were fulfilled by Jesus.
John 1:35-37
35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37 And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. (KJV)
Now, we know Jesus was our Passover Lamb forever, the acceptable sacrifice, for Paul says :
1 Cor 5:7
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: (KJV)
Jesus confirms: John 12:27
27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. (KJV)
We all know Jesus came to be the Passover Lamb, sacrificed for us. We know Jesus fulfilled all the Law and the Prophets. But do you remember what this Lamb was to be?
Exod 12:5-6
5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. (KJV)
Notice that according to the Law, the Lamb MUST be a male of the FIRST year. A lamb of more than first year age is not acceptable. Jesus, as the Lamb of God, as spoken by John Baptist, was indeed a male of the first year, beginning a year after his Baptism.
Quoting Isaiah the prophet, Jesus says:
Luke 4:18-21
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. (KJV)
Notice he says acceptable YEAR, not any other time such as 2 or 3 years.
Let us now examine the 'passover' of Jn 6:4. This Passover mentioned is worded differently compared to the ones n 2:13 and 11:55. One may truly ask why this would be, but like all things, it is written for our admonition and instruction.
Here is where you have to be a little wise. The Word clues it for you. Notice that both in Jn 2:13 and in 11:55, the wording is "the Jews Passover". (This SAME wording is used before AND after the mention of this "passover" in Jn 6:4. But in Jn 6:4 it is called "the passover, a feast of the Jews". What’s the difference?
Well if you look in 2 Chron 30, you will find that the second-month passover was re-established by king Hezekiah, a king of Judah, for those who couldn't keep the one on 15 Nisan. It was in the second month, (30 days after the regular passover). This is documented in the companion appendix 51 as well. This one was originally established by Moses < Num 9:10-11>, but apparently fell into misuse until it was reestablished by King Hezikiah. In Ezra 3:8, after the temple was reestablished (the 49 years) there is a feast of the second month mentioned. This one in Jn 6:4 is called a "feast of the Jews"- it was their tradition, the “tradition of the elders“. (ref Matt 15 and Mk 3)
Thus, it is simply that this ‘feast of the Jews’, perhaps began to be a traditional ‘substitute’ for the one true “Passover”, but in any case, it is obvious that Jesus did not keep it. Instead, He went and FED the folks. (See Jn 6:5-71). On the other 2 Passovers, (Jn 2:13 & Jn 11:55) He went to the Temple. Pay attention!! Notice in Numbers 9, the REASON that the second Passover was established. That this Passover was ignored by Jesus is obvious, for Chapter 7 mentions the feast of Tabernacles, which is 5 months later.
Certainly, Christ would never have failed to keep the required Passover as the Law stipulates that the keeping of the Passover is an ordinance forever. (Ex 12:14, many other places)
Finally, looking in Daniel, we see first that 70 week prophecy, in 9:24. Before we jump into proving the fulfillment of these 70 weeks by Christ, lets look at the length of the ministry, which I previously said was 434 days.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (KJV)
(Notice that these MUST BE weeks of days, for Christ surely was not on earth for 62 weeks of years!!)
We can prove this 434 day time period from the Gospels, and a little help from knowing the Jew's feasts.
There is only one year (360) days between the two Passovers of Jn. (ch 2 and the one in ch 11). To this we add the forty days in the wilderness after His baptism, and the 3 days between Jn 1:32 and Jn 2:1, and the "not many days" of Jn 2:12.
But, instead of guessing, lets start at the termination of the ministry, which all know is the Passover preparation day (John 19:14, 31, 42> and accept the 62 week time as specified in Daniel 9:26, for after all Jesus has fulfilled the prophets up until now. So, 62 weeks are 7x62 or 434 days. There are 360 days between Passovers, leaving 74 days, 434-360=74. Since the Passover preparation day is always Nisan 14, two (30 day months) and 14 days earlier would bring us back to the first day of the month Sebat. Is the first of Sebat significant? Paul says in 1 Cor 10:1-4:
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (KJV)
We find, written for our edification:
Deut 1:3
3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the LORD had given him in commandment unto them; (KJV)
Sebat is the eleventh month:
Zech 1:7
7 Upon the four and twentieth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Sebat, in the second year of Darius, came the word of the LORD unto Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet, saying, (KJV)
Deu 1:3 is an acceptable type, when taken with Dan 9:26 and the Gospel records, because Moses was a type of Christ to Israel, and Moses introduced the first Passover. This adds great meaning to the Words Christ quoted at the beginning. This is indeed the "acceptable year" of the Lord. Not, mind you, the acceptable "3 and a half years" as man says. (See Lk 4:19)
Coincidence or not, it is exactly 74 days from 1 Sebat to Nisan 14, and of course 360 days until the next Nisan 14. Thus, it is exactly 434 days, or the 62 weeks as prophesied in Dan 9:26 from the first day of Sebat, to the second following Passover preparation day, Nisan 14.
Now that I have also alluded that the full 70 weeks (of days) have been fulfilled, consider this. The 70 weeks (of days--Dan 9:25) were allotted to all. To both the Elect and to the Jews. Christ came to them (both) for 62 weeks, (434 days) as foretold in Dan 9, and He was loved by the Elect but crucified by Judah on the preparation day of Passover. Passover lasts for 1 week. (Ex 12:15). Now, 434 + 7 = 441 days. Pentecost (Acts 2, when the Holy Spirit was poured out) begins at sunset at the end of 7 weeks from passover. (49 days after Passover-see Lev 23: 5-16). It was immediately on Pentecost day, that Peter and John announced (Acts 3,4 and 5) to Judah that they had rejected their Messiah. NOW, 441+49 =490 days, or 70 LITERAL "weeks" of days.
Before some misunderstand, The prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27 must be addressed. The subjects of these 3 verses are different. The times are given in 'sevens' and the word used there is 'shabuas'.
All reading these verses should realize that the objects of verse 24 can never be satisfied by anything other than Christ. There is no, was a 'city' or an animal sacrifice can fulfill them. Since these are fulfilled in Christ, they must be 'sevens' of days, or literal weeks. there are 490 days here, which were shown in the above.
The 69 weeks of Dan 9:25 are weeks of years, and were shown fulfilled in Ezra (49 years) and the remaining years until the Baptism (advent) of Messiah, Jesus.
Finally in Dan 9:26, the 62 weeks until the cutting off (crucifixion) of Jesus are weeks of days (434 total) as was shown above.
Now, it is sure that there is no final 7 years that is unfulfilled, for there never was. IMO, The problem is that man has failed to see the complete truth as written.
IMO the prophecies given here were given to all. Yes, they are a TYPE for us today. But since we realize that they are not in sync with the seals of Rev, I must assume that these were verbatim fulfilled for the disciples who heard them, for I cannot accept that Father's Word is out of order anywhere. Secular history proves the destruction of the city by Titus, within that generation, in 70AD. Further, since Christ had not yet physically replaced the conventional sacrifice at the time He spoke the words, we can assume the sacrifices were the norm in the temple. Recall that He threw out the dove dealers twice. So sacrifices were still going on up till Antiochus sacrificed the pig, and Titus destroyed the city.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I accept that this literal week, refers to Christ, not to AC. Note the following: Father told Ezekiel in Ch 4: verses 4-7, He is assigning to Ezekiel a day for a year. Thus we can assume that for the Elect, of which Christ is Foremost, the weeks in Daniel 9:24-27 are literal weeks of days. For the natural seed, and for Jerusalem, the weeks are weeks of years.
Ezek 4:4-6
4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.
5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.
6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year. (KJV)
Notice the total time of 430 days. We will see something interesting. Earlier, I indicated that the 62 weeks were the 434 days from his baptism until the Passover preparation day, which was the crucifixion. We shall now find the 'week' in which Jesus 'confirmed' the covenant. It will be the last week, culminating in His resurrection. Let us look into the Gospel record. John 12:1 states that six days before the Passover, (this would be five days before the preparation day when he was crucified), Jesus came to Bethany, to the house of Mary and Martha. He had a meal and spent the night. The next day (Jn 12:12), or precisely four days before the preparation day (the Crucifixion) Christ made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem riding on the donkey. (Jn 12:12-16) People welcomed Him with Hosannas and Palm leaves. You can confirm the elapsed days in Companion App 156.
Now, guess what? We have shown that it was 434 days (62 weeks) from the baptism to the crucifixion. Now, if we subtract the 4 days before the crucifixion where He formally showed Himself as Messiah to Israel, from the 434, we have precisely the 430 days where Ezekiel lay on his side for the transgressions of Israel! The day is our Sunday. This begins the final week, where "he shall cause the sacrifice to cease", for He became our Passover sacrifice forever. (1 Cor 5:7), making vain and void the animal sacrifice of the Jews. He arose on the following Sunday, the end of the final week
Thus this verse (Dan 9:27) describes the events of the "last week" of Christ's ministry. The week began on day 430 with his entry into Jerusalem. In the midst of the 4th day (midweek) He was crucified. The end of the week (3 days later) was the resurrection, where indeed all things were then finished and turned over to the desolator, who is yet to come.
This is the prophecy of the last half of Dan 9:27. It is desolate until the end of the war between God and Satan, where the last generation will stand.
As was previously shown, the total time from baptism to the second following Pentecost filled the complete 70 weeks, or 490 days. God's Word is true, and amazing in accuracy, needing only Faith in His written Word to prove.
Amazing is the Word and it's detail. For 3 and a half days after His entrance on the donkey, or precisely the 'middle of the week' (at the 6th hour, or noon, He was crucified! His crucifixion would indeed 'cause the sacrifice and oblation' to cease, as He became our sacrifice for all time!! At the end of that final week, or 3 days and nights later, He is resurrected as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Yes, this is yet future, and is Satan himself trying to locate himself right between your temples, for as in 1Cor 3:16 and 2 Cor 6:16 Ye are the temple of God. The temple is not one made by hands with bricks. God makes the temple out of us.
Then we have in Rev the time frames which correspond to a "week" based upon the day for a year principle
Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Dan 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
The 2300 "days" are actually 1150 days, and fit quite nicely with the 5 moons and the arrival of Satan in the Revelation.
The main key to understanding the 2300 days in Dan 8 begins by looking at the question actually being answered. The 2300 is the answer to (8:13)........ "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice AND the transgression of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred DAYS; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. (KJV)
Note Carefully: The manuscripts do not use the word "days" in these verses. The word translated days is actually 2 words, and unique ones at that. Literally, the translation is "2300 evening-mornings". The manuscripts use these words "evenings-mornings". You should look them up in your Strong's. Here are the Brigg's Lexicon usages definitions for comparison.
Strong's # 6153 `ereb- evening, night, sunset a) evening, sunset
night (DIC)
Strong's # 1242 boqer- morning, the break of day a) morning 1) used of end of night 2) used of coming of daylight 3) used of coming of sunrise 4) used of beginning of day 5) used of bright joy after a night of distress (figurative) the morrow, the next day, the next morning (DIC)
Later on in this same chapter, the translators correctly translated it.
Dan 8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (KJV)
Now we need to examine the meaning of this number 2300. Man in his zeal says "well an evening-morning is a day, isn't it?” Yes to them it may be, but to God it isn’t. Recall that this is very plain in Genesis chapter 1. The Holy Spirit separates the evenings and mornings, and makes a special statement to combine them into a "day". The Holy Spirit does not do this just to take up space explaining something that should be obvious. Compare the word used for "day" many other places in this book of Daniel.
Strong's # 3117 yowm- day, time, year a) a day (as opposed to night) a day (24 hour period) 1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1 2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey c) days, lifetime (plural) d) time, period (general) e) year f) temporal references 1) today 2) yesterday 3) tomorrow (DIC)
Lets find the special statement. If the Angel of the Lord said it was true, you can bet all that it is in His Word. We turn to:
Exod 29:39-41
39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an hin of wine for a drink offering.
41 And the other lamb thou shalt offer at even, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
And for the second Witness:
Num 28:3-4
3 And thou shalt say unto them, This is the offering made by fire which ye shall offer unto the LORD; two lambs of the first year without spot day by day, for a continual burnt offering.
4 The one lamb shalt thou offer in the morning, and the other lamb shalt thou offer at even;
After some study, we can conclude that the "2300 days" really is 2300 "evening-mornings", or 2300 DAILY SACRIFICES, for the daily sacrifice is the subject of this explanation by the Angel, (see Dan 8:13)
Voila--2 sacrifices per "day". Thus this 2300 takes the "time" of what we ould call 1150 "days".
Well hmmm. How does this fit with anything else? Lets think just a minute. It's obvious that there is only one arrival of both Satan de facto, and sometime later, Yashua de facto.
We have heard that ol Satan and his crew has a 5 month period (as in Rev 9) to do their deed. We have often said that this is 150 days. But is it? If we look at the word used there in Rev 9, we will find out it also means "moon" not just "month". Is a "moon" 30 days, and thus 5 moons 150 days? Not at all. Some of our months have 31 days. Fortunately, the moon keeps pretty good time for a short period like 5 cycles. We can find from any encyclopedia that the time taken for the moon to go through one complete cycle varies from 27 days and a few hours to 29 days and a few hours, depending on particular cycle of interest and also the time of year. Thus an average is 28 days, or about, for each “moon”, yielding a period of 5 X 28, or 140 days Another interesting thought is that the difference between 150 days and 140 days is of course 10 days. Referring to the chart at the end of this study you can see that there is a 10 day overlap when both Satan and his locust army are on earth together, apparently in their dual roles. This coincidentally corresponds to the 10 day tribulation promised to The Church of Smyrna in Rev 2:10.
This Greek word mem, or "month" as in Rev 9 is Strongs #3376, which has the strongs definition of "month", however, the Thayer lexicon has two definitions
Strongs 3376: 1) month. 2) The time of the new moon, the first day of the month was a festival to the Hebrews
Now, if the "5 months" is 5 "moons", then the 150 days becomes 28 X 5=140 days.
Now, something neat. If we add the 1150 "days" when the daily sacrifices are not allowed to the 140, guess what? we have 1290 days. Does this ring a bell? You will find it in Daniel 12:11.
"And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." (KJV)
Guess what else? This word "day" is H#3117. A day! A plain old 24 hour day.
Strong's # 3117 yowm- day, time, year a) a day (as opposed to night) a day (24 hour period) 1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1 2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey c) days, lifetime (plural) d) time, period (general) e) year f) temporal references 1) today 2) yesterday 3) tomorrow (DIC)
Interesting, what? People look for "7 years of tribulation". But how do they reconcile that belief with Jesus' words in Mk 13:20 and Mt 24:22? He specifically said He had shortened the days. And He told Daniel:
Dan 8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (KJV)
The vision will be many days in arriving, as He told Daniel, but as He told us in The Gospels that He has shortened the time of the visions duration for the ELECT, but not for the world. How could this be? Well, for the main, the world will be completely happy in that time, since their Father will be here. But our time of testing does not start until Satan arrives. We have been foretold all things.
Removal of the “daily sacrifice” is the taking away *OR REPLACING* of all man’s religious concepts of worship. This is done by the little horn as described in Daniel 8. The 4 winds (ruach, or spirits) of heaven (Daniel 8: represent the four religious concepts which are prevalent today. These are four in number and comprise the 'religious' spirits . These began with the ancient's plurality of man-gods, but today they consist of 1) Islam, 2) Animism (Buddhists, Shinto, Hindu, etc), 3) universal (Catholic and corporate Christianity), and 4) Judaism. Each of these religions require or even specify require a “daily” devotional (prayer) or ritual of some sort. When this 'little horn' takes worldly power, all of these religious rituals will be done away with, for he will genuinely convince the people of the world that he, alone, 'as the messiah of god', may specify the new methods of worship. It is possible that this may come about after worldwide catastrophe such as war or even natural catastrophe. This one leader of the world will prophecy the coming of the fallen angels as well as Satan, himself, who will play the role he always wanted, God. In any case the worldwide power of this false prophet will be absolute with regard to the daily activity of the people of the entire world. He will show miracles as mentioned in Rev 13. This flesh man is not the anti-Christ, for that one true anti-Christ is Satan in person and is yet to arrive on the scene. This flesh man "little horn" will fulfill the John Baptist (Elijah) equivalent for Satan, fulfilling the last 2 verses of the Old Testament.
Mal 4:5-6
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (KJV)
Two things should be noted in these verses in Malachi. First, that the word 'fathers' is plural, pointing out the two fathers, Satan and God, as Jesus reminded the Jews in John 8. Secondly, just as John Baptist "would have been" Elijah, (Mt 11:14, MK 9:13) there are future flesh men who will fulfill both the negative (false prophet) and positive (2 witnesses) roles. As the chart at the end of this study indicates, the false prophet has a 70 day head start on the 2 witnesses.
The following verses indicate that this 'little horn' is indeed a flesh man.
Dan 11:36-39
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. (KJV)
His 'strange god' is Satan, in fact. This is not a man 'possessed' by Satan any more than we are 'possessed' by Christ. He is very anti-God, and is intent on satisfying the flesh needs of people. (See VV 24 and 39)
So, all the world's "religions" will be put to the test. As was shown to Daniel in the lion's den and the three children in the furnace, only Faith in God and the ability of a person to exercise their own faith in God will overcome during that time. The fire kindled by Satan will be the instrument which will refine God's servants like fine gold.
We, as Christians rest daily in Yashua Messiah, Jesus the Christ. Since the 'temple' is in the kingdom of God and the temple is within us, (Lk 17: 20-21, 1Cor 3:16, 2 Cor 6:16), there is no way someone can remove our "daily". All people don’t know this freedom. They will of course accept any lies that their minds can fathom. They accept the words and traditions of man today, so a miracle man hero will be quite welcome, especially when the entire earth is overcome with the terrible judgment of God. The 1150 days of 'no daily' to other than Satan will not affect true Christians at all. It will destroy all 'religion', however.
But, just as Daniel was caught making his prayer to God, we will be confronted with the minions of the false prophet. Thus, Christian Jews, ‘in the land’, which the peoples of modern state calling themselves Israel (mostly) are not, will get their turn AFTER this 1150 day period. That time will last 140 days, and will be the time of the locust army in Rev 9. Now these of the locust army "have a king over them" (Rev 9:11) (Satan) but he is not here in person until after that 140 days. Those little locusts will be running around, though, feeding spiritual poison to all who will listen. Jews, Animists, Moslems and Christians alike. All will fall away except the very few who know the truth. Now this 1150 and 140 uses up the 1290 of Daniel 12:11. We are told to WAIT, though for our blessedness, on the 45th day, or until after another 44 days. Hmmmm. WAIT. Don’t that sound familiar? Folks, the 1291'st day MUST BE, therefore, the first day of Satan de facto. That 44 days are what we have been waiting for. Satan only has 44 days in a de facto appearance, because on the 45th, we will be "Blessed", because the millennium will start.
If you think it outrageous that Satan has only 44 days of de facto appearance, just re-read Dan 12:-11-12. If we are going to accept that the “abomination of the desolator” is none other than Satan de facto, then it is very plain that once he is set up, there are only 44 days left in this earth age!
Now does this make sense? Well lets look in HIS Word. It should be written if it is true. Father will never ask His Children to do something He would not do. He even came thru this flesh like we all do. Lets think of being happy on the 45 th day after the 1290. Lo and behold those 44 days of tribulation ARE written.
Jesus would not ask us to do in the flesh more than what He Himself did
Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, (KJV) Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. (KJV)
I would not be able to resist Satan on my own for 40 seconds, much less fourty days.
Well now, we all know how Jesus withstood Satan, don’t we? He withstood by having God’s Word in His forehead. He IS the Living Word. We must do the same. Every word Christ used to answer Satan was written in the Law. The Word of God. The temptation of Christ takes care of 40 of the 44. Hmmmm.
Four more days to go.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. (KJV)
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. (KJV)
There’s another 3 and a half. What starts then? Why its the beginning of the 44 th day, because the day begins at sundown. It is the beginning of the "Day of the Lord"! This is the day of God's wrath. You can see it described in Rev 11 and 19, as well as the following.
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. (KJV)
Zeph 1:14-15 14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. 15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, (KJV)
Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: (KJV)
Haggai 2:23 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts. (KJV)
Fear not, and take comfort:
Isa 54:9-17
9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. (KJV)
THEN, beloved, we have made it thru these last 44 days, and guess what?
John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. (KJV)
Now, in summary: 1150 days from the cutting off of the daily sacrifice to the arrival of the locusts. 140 days of locusts. 43.5 days of Satan de facto, 1 day of Gods wrath. total = 1334.5 days. And, as the day begins at sundown, 1334.5 is actually the beginning of the 1335th and as Yashua tells Daniel, "blessed be He that waits and cometh to the 1335 th day." Blessed indeed
ps, I forgot to say this is a part of a study being looked into by Bob, our 'in Christ' friend, he has a website, I'll have to look it up.
First, I must ask that everyone set aside in total, ALL and EVERY commentary and otherwise extraBiblical information from the mind of man, reflecting that God had said to Daniel these words are sealed up till the time of the end; AND to seek to see if what your are about to read is true, using the plumbline of Scripture with all readiness of mind to see if a thing is so!!!
oh yeah, and you may wish to get a writing tool and maybe even a caluclator, expecting to take many of this difficult subject.
Most people agree that according to three of the four canonized gospels, only one Passover is mentioned, and it can be concluded from these accounts that Jesus had a short ministry spanning at the most one year, beginning at His Baptism and ending with the Crucifixion.
The gospel of John does appear to indicate a longer ministry for there are three different Passovers mentioned in it's text. These are in verses 2:13, 6:4, and 11:55. All should agree without contention that the Passover of Jn 11:55 is the one where He was Crucified.
I should mention the obvious here. There is only one year (360 days) between Passovers, and even if there were three conventional Passovers here, that could only confirm only a little over two years. We know from the times mentioned in John's Gospel that the Baptism was only a few months at most prior to Jn 2:13.
So, with this obvious evidence in the gospel of John, there is no scriptural reason for a claim of a ministry length of three or three and a half years. Many, however, cling to such as if it were fact. As it turns out, the 3 and a half years ministry length is a necessary component the present confusion of some popular 'last days' prophecy, supposing to help explain the so-called missing 7 years of Dan 9:25. There is no missing time at all there in Daniel.
In a study of Daniel and the 'weeks' prophecy, it has come to light that, indeed, Christ's flesh ministry was in fact a total of 434 days. It began at His baptism and ended on the second following Passover at the Crucifixion. There is a lot of scripture which builds to this conclusion, and we will go there. Following this, we will see the fulfillment of Dan 9:24, the seventy weeks, written in the accounts of the New Testament.
Before we look at the Passover of Jn 6:4 in detail, which we will shortly do, lets look into the Prophets and the Law in the context of those things written in John's gospel, which were fulfilled by Jesus.
John 1:35-37
35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37 And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. (KJV)
Now, we know Jesus was our Passover Lamb forever, the acceptable sacrifice, for Paul says :
1 Cor 5:7
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: (KJV)
Jesus confirms: John 12:27
27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. (KJV)
We all know Jesus came to be the Passover Lamb, sacrificed for us. We know Jesus fulfilled all the Law and the Prophets. But do you remember what this Lamb was to be?
Exod 12:5-6
5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. (KJV)
Notice that according to the Law, the Lamb MUST be a male of the FIRST year. A lamb of more than first year age is not acceptable. Jesus, as the Lamb of God, as spoken by John Baptist, was indeed a male of the first year, beginning a year after his Baptism.
Quoting Isaiah the prophet, Jesus says:
Luke 4:18-21
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. (KJV)
Notice he says acceptable YEAR, not any other time such as 2 or 3 years.
Let us now examine the 'passover' of Jn 6:4. This Passover mentioned is worded differently compared to the ones n 2:13 and 11:55. One may truly ask why this would be, but like all things, it is written for our admonition and instruction.
Here is where you have to be a little wise. The Word clues it for you. Notice that both in Jn 2:13 and in 11:55, the wording is "the Jews Passover". (This SAME wording is used before AND after the mention of this "passover" in Jn 6:4. But in Jn 6:4 it is called "the passover, a feast of the Jews". What’s the difference?
Well if you look in 2 Chron 30, you will find that the second-month passover was re-established by king Hezekiah, a king of Judah, for those who couldn't keep the one on 15 Nisan. It was in the second month, (30 days after the regular passover). This is documented in the companion appendix 51 as well. This one was originally established by Moses < Num 9:10-11>, but apparently fell into misuse until it was reestablished by King Hezikiah. In Ezra 3:8, after the temple was reestablished (the 49 years) there is a feast of the second month mentioned. This one in Jn 6:4 is called a "feast of the Jews"- it was their tradition, the “tradition of the elders“. (ref Matt 15 and Mk 3)
Thus, it is simply that this ‘feast of the Jews’, perhaps began to be a traditional ‘substitute’ for the one true “Passover”, but in any case, it is obvious that Jesus did not keep it. Instead, He went and FED the folks. (See Jn 6:5-71). On the other 2 Passovers, (Jn 2:13 & Jn 11:55) He went to the Temple. Pay attention!! Notice in Numbers 9, the REASON that the second Passover was established. That this Passover was ignored by Jesus is obvious, for Chapter 7 mentions the feast of Tabernacles, which is 5 months later.
Certainly, Christ would never have failed to keep the required Passover as the Law stipulates that the keeping of the Passover is an ordinance forever. (Ex 12:14, many other places)
Finally, looking in Daniel, we see first that 70 week prophecy, in 9:24. Before we jump into proving the fulfillment of these 70 weeks by Christ, lets look at the length of the ministry, which I previously said was 434 days.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (KJV)
(Notice that these MUST BE weeks of days, for Christ surely was not on earth for 62 weeks of years!!)
We can prove this 434 day time period from the Gospels, and a little help from knowing the Jew's feasts.
There is only one year (360) days between the two Passovers of Jn. (ch 2 and the one in ch 11). To this we add the forty days in the wilderness after His baptism, and the 3 days between Jn 1:32 and Jn 2:1, and the "not many days" of Jn 2:12.
But, instead of guessing, lets start at the termination of the ministry, which all know is the Passover preparation day (John 19:14, 31, 42> and accept the 62 week time as specified in Daniel 9:26, for after all Jesus has fulfilled the prophets up until now. So, 62 weeks are 7x62 or 434 days. There are 360 days between Passovers, leaving 74 days, 434-360=74. Since the Passover preparation day is always Nisan 14, two (30 day months) and 14 days earlier would bring us back to the first day of the month Sebat. Is the first of Sebat significant? Paul says in 1 Cor 10:1-4:
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (KJV)
We find, written for our edification:
Deut 1:3
3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the LORD had given him in commandment unto them; (KJV)
Sebat is the eleventh month:
Zech 1:7
7 Upon the four and twentieth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Sebat, in the second year of Darius, came the word of the LORD unto Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet, saying, (KJV)
Deu 1:3 is an acceptable type, when taken with Dan 9:26 and the Gospel records, because Moses was a type of Christ to Israel, and Moses introduced the first Passover. This adds great meaning to the Words Christ quoted at the beginning. This is indeed the "acceptable year" of the Lord. Not, mind you, the acceptable "3 and a half years" as man says. (See Lk 4:19)
Coincidence or not, it is exactly 74 days from 1 Sebat to Nisan 14, and of course 360 days until the next Nisan 14. Thus, it is exactly 434 days, or the 62 weeks as prophesied in Dan 9:26 from the first day of Sebat, to the second following Passover preparation day, Nisan 14.
Now that I have also alluded that the full 70 weeks (of days) have been fulfilled, consider this. The 70 weeks (of days--Dan 9:25) were allotted to all. To both the Elect and to the Jews. Christ came to them (both) for 62 weeks, (434 days) as foretold in Dan 9, and He was loved by the Elect but crucified by Judah on the preparation day of Passover. Passover lasts for 1 week. (Ex 12:15). Now, 434 + 7 = 441 days. Pentecost (Acts 2, when the Holy Spirit was poured out) begins at sunset at the end of 7 weeks from passover. (49 days after Passover-see Lev 23: 5-16). It was immediately on Pentecost day, that Peter and John announced (Acts 3,4 and 5) to Judah that they had rejected their Messiah. NOW, 441+49 =490 days, or 70 LITERAL "weeks" of days.
Before some misunderstand, The prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27 must be addressed. The subjects of these 3 verses are different. The times are given in 'sevens' and the word used there is 'shabuas'.
All reading these verses should realize that the objects of verse 24 can never be satisfied by anything other than Christ. There is no, was a 'city' or an animal sacrifice can fulfill them. Since these are fulfilled in Christ, they must be 'sevens' of days, or literal weeks. there are 490 days here, which were shown in the above.
The 69 weeks of Dan 9:25 are weeks of years, and were shown fulfilled in Ezra (49 years) and the remaining years until the Baptism (advent) of Messiah, Jesus.
Finally in Dan 9:26, the 62 weeks until the cutting off (crucifixion) of Jesus are weeks of days (434 total) as was shown above.
Now, it is sure that there is no final 7 years that is unfulfilled, for there never was. IMO, The problem is that man has failed to see the complete truth as written.
IMO the prophecies given here were given to all. Yes, they are a TYPE for us today. But since we realize that they are not in sync with the seals of Rev, I must assume that these were verbatim fulfilled for the disciples who heard them, for I cannot accept that Father's Word is out of order anywhere. Secular history proves the destruction of the city by Titus, within that generation, in 70AD. Further, since Christ had not yet physically replaced the conventional sacrifice at the time He spoke the words, we can assume the sacrifices were the norm in the temple. Recall that He threw out the dove dealers twice. So sacrifices were still going on up till Antiochus sacrificed the pig, and Titus destroyed the city.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I accept that this literal week, refers to Christ, not to AC. Note the following: Father told Ezekiel in Ch 4: verses 4-7, He is assigning to Ezekiel a day for a year. Thus we can assume that for the Elect, of which Christ is Foremost, the weeks in Daniel 9:24-27 are literal weeks of days. For the natural seed, and for Jerusalem, the weeks are weeks of years.
Ezek 4:4-6
4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.
5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.
6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year. (KJV)
Notice the total time of 430 days. We will see something interesting. Earlier, I indicated that the 62 weeks were the 434 days from his baptism until the Passover preparation day, which was the crucifixion. We shall now find the 'week' in which Jesus 'confirmed' the covenant. It will be the last week, culminating in His resurrection. Let us look into the Gospel record. John 12:1 states that six days before the Passover, (this would be five days before the preparation day when he was crucified), Jesus came to Bethany, to the house of Mary and Martha. He had a meal and spent the night. The next day (Jn 12:12), or precisely four days before the preparation day (the Crucifixion) Christ made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem riding on the donkey. (Jn 12:12-16) People welcomed Him with Hosannas and Palm leaves. You can confirm the elapsed days in Companion App 156.
Now, guess what? We have shown that it was 434 days (62 weeks) from the baptism to the crucifixion. Now, if we subtract the 4 days before the crucifixion where He formally showed Himself as Messiah to Israel, from the 434, we have precisely the 430 days where Ezekiel lay on his side for the transgressions of Israel! The day is our Sunday. This begins the final week, where "he shall cause the sacrifice to cease", for He became our Passover sacrifice forever. (1 Cor 5:7), making vain and void the animal sacrifice of the Jews. He arose on the following Sunday, the end of the final week
Thus this verse (Dan 9:27) describes the events of the "last week" of Christ's ministry. The week began on day 430 with his entry into Jerusalem. In the midst of the 4th day (midweek) He was crucified. The end of the week (3 days later) was the resurrection, where indeed all things were then finished and turned over to the desolator, who is yet to come.
This is the prophecy of the last half of Dan 9:27. It is desolate until the end of the war between God and Satan, where the last generation will stand.
As was previously shown, the total time from baptism to the second following Pentecost filled the complete 70 weeks, or 490 days. God's Word is true, and amazing in accuracy, needing only Faith in His written Word to prove.
Amazing is the Word and it's detail. For 3 and a half days after His entrance on the donkey, or precisely the 'middle of the week' (at the 6th hour, or noon, He was crucified! His crucifixion would indeed 'cause the sacrifice and oblation' to cease, as He became our sacrifice for all time!! At the end of that final week, or 3 days and nights later, He is resurrected as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Yes, this is yet future, and is Satan himself trying to locate himself right between your temples, for as in 1Cor 3:16 and 2 Cor 6:16 Ye are the temple of God. The temple is not one made by hands with bricks. God makes the temple out of us.
Then we have in Rev the time frames which correspond to a "week" based upon the day for a year principle
Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Dan 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
The 2300 "days" are actually 1150 days, and fit quite nicely with the 5 moons and the arrival of Satan in the Revelation.
The main key to understanding the 2300 days in Dan 8 begins by looking at the question actually being answered. The 2300 is the answer to (8:13)........ "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice AND the transgression of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred DAYS; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. (KJV)
Note Carefully: The manuscripts do not use the word "days" in these verses. The word translated days is actually 2 words, and unique ones at that. Literally, the translation is "2300 evening-mornings". The manuscripts use these words "evenings-mornings". You should look them up in your Strong's. Here are the Brigg's Lexicon usages definitions for comparison.
Strong's # 6153 `ereb- evening, night, sunset a) evening, sunset
night (DIC) Strong's # 1242 boqer- morning, the break of day a) morning 1) used of end of night 2) used of coming of daylight 3) used of coming of sunrise 4) used of beginning of day 5) used of bright joy after a night of distress (figurative)
the morrow, the next day, the next morning (DIC) Later on in this same chapter, the translators correctly translated it.
Dan 8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (KJV)
Now we need to examine the meaning of this number 2300. Man in his zeal says "well an evening-morning is a day, isn't it?” Yes to them it may be, but to God it isn’t. Recall that this is very plain in Genesis chapter 1. The Holy Spirit separates the evenings and mornings, and makes a special statement to combine them into a "day". The Holy Spirit does not do this just to take up space explaining something that should be obvious. Compare the word used for "day" many other places in this book of Daniel.
Strong's # 3117 yowm- day, time, year a) a day (as opposed to night)
a day (24 hour period) 1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1 2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey c) days, lifetime (plural) d) time, period (general) e) year f) temporal references 1) today 2) yesterday 3) tomorrow (DIC) Lets find the special statement. If the Angel of the Lord said it was true, you can bet all that it is in His Word. We turn to:
Exod 29:39-41
39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an hin of wine for a drink offering.
41 And the other lamb thou shalt offer at even, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
And for the second Witness:
Num 28:3-4
3 And thou shalt say unto them, This is the offering made by fire which ye shall offer unto the LORD; two lambs of the first year without spot day by day, for a continual burnt offering.
4 The one lamb shalt thou offer in the morning, and the other lamb shalt thou offer at even;
After some study, we can conclude that the "2300 days" really is 2300 "evening-mornings", or 2300 DAILY SACRIFICES, for the daily sacrifice is the subject of this explanation by the Angel, (see Dan 8:13)
Voila--2 sacrifices per "day". Thus this 2300 takes the "time" of what we ould call 1150 "days".
Well hmmm. How does this fit with anything else? Lets think just a minute. It's obvious that there is only one arrival of both Satan de facto, and sometime later, Yashua de facto.
We have heard that ol Satan and his crew has a 5 month period (as in Rev 9) to do their deed. We have often said that this is 150 days. But is it? If we look at the word used there in Rev 9, we will find out it also means "moon" not just "month". Is a "moon" 30 days, and thus 5 moons 150 days? Not at all. Some of our months have 31 days. Fortunately, the moon keeps pretty good time for a short period like 5 cycles. We can find from any encyclopedia that the time taken for the moon to go through one complete cycle varies from 27 days and a few hours to 29 days and a few hours, depending on particular cycle of interest and also the time of year. Thus an average is 28 days, or about, for each “moon”, yielding a period of 5 X 28, or 140 days Another interesting thought is that the difference between 150 days and 140 days is of course 10 days. Referring to the chart at the end of this study you can see that there is a 10 day overlap when both Satan and his locust army are on earth together, apparently in their dual roles. This coincidentally corresponds to the 10 day tribulation promised to The Church of Smyrna in Rev 2:10.
This Greek word mem, or "month" as in Rev 9 is Strongs #3376, which has the strongs definition of "month", however, the Thayer lexicon has two definitions
Strongs 3376: 1) month. 2) The time of the new moon, the first day of the month was a festival to the Hebrews
Now, if the "5 months" is 5 "moons", then the 150 days becomes 28 X 5=140 days.
Now, something neat. If we add the 1150 "days" when the daily sacrifices are not allowed to the 140, guess what? we have 1290 days. Does this ring a bell? You will find it in Daniel 12:11.
"And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days." (KJV)
Guess what else? This word "day" is H#3117. A day! A plain old 24 hour day.
Strong's # 3117 yowm- day, time, year a) a day (as opposed to night)
a day (24 hour period) 1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1 2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey c) days, lifetime (plural) d) time, period (general) e) year f) temporal references 1) today 2) yesterday 3) tomorrow (DIC) Interesting, what? People look for "7 years of tribulation". But how do they reconcile that belief with Jesus' words in Mk 13:20 and Mt 24:22? He specifically said He had shortened the days. And He told Daniel:
Dan 8:26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (KJV)
The vision will be many days in arriving, as He told Daniel, but as He told us in The Gospels that He has shortened the time of the visions duration for the ELECT, but not for the world. How could this be? Well, for the main, the world will be completely happy in that time, since their Father will be here. But our time of testing does not start until Satan arrives. We have been foretold all things.
Removal of the “daily sacrifice” is the taking away *OR REPLACING* of all man’s religious concepts of worship. This is done by the little horn as described in Daniel 8. The 4 winds (ruach, or spirits) of heaven (Daniel 8: represent the four religious concepts which are prevalent today. These are four in number and comprise the 'religious' spirits . These began with the ancient's plurality of man-gods, but today they consist of 1) Islam, 2) Animism (Buddhists, Shinto, Hindu, etc), 3) universal (Catholic and corporate Christianity), and 4) Judaism. Each of these religions require or even specify require a “daily” devotional (prayer) or ritual of some sort. When this 'little horn' takes worldly power, all of these religious rituals will be done away with, for he will genuinely convince the people of the world that he, alone, 'as the messiah of god', may specify the new methods of worship. It is possible that this may come about after worldwide catastrophe such as war or even natural catastrophe. This one leader of the world will prophecy the coming of the fallen angels as well as Satan, himself, who will play the role he always wanted, God. In any case the worldwide power of this false prophet will be absolute with regard to the daily activity of the people of the entire world. He will show miracles as mentioned in Rev 13. This flesh man is not the anti-Christ, for that one true anti-Christ is Satan in person and is yet to arrive on the scene. This flesh man "little horn" will fulfill the John Baptist (Elijah) equivalent for Satan, fulfilling the last 2 verses of the Old Testament.
Mal 4:5-6
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. (KJV)
Two things should be noted in these verses in Malachi. First, that the word 'fathers' is plural, pointing out the two fathers, Satan and God, as Jesus reminded the Jews in John 8. Secondly, just as John Baptist "would have been" Elijah, (Mt 11:14, MK 9:13) there are future flesh men who will fulfill both the negative (false prophet) and positive (2 witnesses) roles. As the chart at the end of this study indicates, the false prophet has a 70 day head start on the 2 witnesses.
The following verses indicate that this 'little horn' is indeed a flesh man.
Dan 11:36-39
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain. (KJV)
His 'strange god' is Satan, in fact. This is not a man 'possessed' by Satan any more than we are 'possessed' by Christ. He is very anti-God, and is intent on satisfying the flesh needs of people. (See VV 24 and 39)
So, all the world's "religions" will be put to the test. As was shown to Daniel in the lion's den and the three children in the furnace, only Faith in God and the ability of a person to exercise their own faith in God will overcome during that time. The fire kindled by Satan will be the instrument which will refine God's servants like fine gold.
We, as Christians rest daily in Yashua Messiah, Jesus the Christ. Since the 'temple' is in the kingdom of God and the temple is within us, (Lk 17: 20-21, 1Cor 3:16, 2 Cor 6:16), there is no way someone can remove our "daily". All people don’t know this freedom. They will of course accept any lies that their minds can fathom. They accept the words and traditions of man today, so a miracle man hero will be quite welcome, especially when the entire earth is overcome with the terrible judgment of God. The 1150 days of 'no daily' to other than Satan will not affect true Christians at all. It will destroy all 'religion', however.
But, just as Daniel was caught making his prayer to God, we will be confronted with the minions of the false prophet. Thus, Christian Jews, ‘in the land’, which the peoples of modern state calling themselves Israel (mostly) are not, will get their turn AFTER this 1150 day period. That time will last 140 days, and will be the time of the locust army in Rev 9. Now these of the locust army "have a king over them" (Rev 9:11) (Satan) but he is not here in person until after that 140 days. Those little locusts will be running around, though, feeding spiritual poison to all who will listen. Jews, Animists, Moslems and Christians alike. All will fall away except the very few who know the truth. Now this 1150 and 140 uses up the 1290 of Daniel 12:11. We are told to WAIT, though for our blessedness, on the 45th day, or until after another 44 days. Hmmmm. WAIT. Don’t that sound familiar? Folks, the 1291'st day MUST BE, therefore, the first day of Satan de facto. That 44 days are what we have been waiting for. Satan only has 44 days in a de facto appearance, because on the 45th, we will be "Blessed", because the millennium will start.
If you think it outrageous that Satan has only 44 days of de facto appearance, just re-read Dan 12:-11-12. If we are going to accept that the “abomination of the desolator” is none other than Satan de facto, then it is very plain that once he is set up, there are only 44 days left in this earth age!
Now does this make sense? Well lets look in HIS Word. It should be written if it is true. Father will never ask His Children to do something He would not do. He even came thru this flesh like we all do. Lets think of being happy on the 45 th day after the 1290. Lo and behold those 44 days of tribulation ARE written.
Jesus would not ask us to do in the flesh more than what He Himself did
Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, (KJV) Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. (KJV)
I would not be able to resist Satan on my own for 40 seconds, much less fourty days.
Well now, we all know how Jesus withstood Satan, don’t we? He withstood by having God’s Word in His forehead. He IS the Living Word. We must do the same. Every word Christ used to answer Satan was written in the Law. The Word of God. The temptation of Christ takes care of 40 of the 44. Hmmmm.
Four more days to go.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. (KJV)
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. (KJV)
There’s another 3 and a half. What starts then? Why its the beginning of the 44 th day, because the day begins at sundown. It is the beginning of the "Day of the Lord"! This is the day of God's wrath. You can see it described in Rev 11 and 19, as well as the following.
Joel 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. (KJV)
Zeph 1:14-15 14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. 15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, (KJV)
Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: (KJV)
Haggai 2:23 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts. (KJV)
Fear not, and take comfort:
Isa 54:9-17
9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. (KJV)
THEN, beloved, we have made it thru these last 44 days, and guess what?
John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. (KJV)
Now, in summary: 1150 days from the cutting off of the daily sacrifice to the arrival of the locusts. 140 days of locusts. 43.5 days of Satan de facto, 1 day of Gods wrath. total = 1334.5 days. And, as the day begins at sundown, 1334.5 is actually the beginning of the 1335th and as Yashua tells Daniel, "blessed be He that waits and cometh to the 1335 th day." Blessed indeed
ps, I forgot to say this is a part of a study being looked into by Bob, our 'in Christ' friend, he has a website, I'll have to look it up.
While you have some good points, the most important point is very wrong. Jesus ministry was between 2 and 3.5 years in length. Very few scholars would contradict this minimum and maximum. To try to force the 490 as days (only) into this tight mould is incorrect.
Also this statement you made is false, or at least misleading (not judging your motive):
This statement ignores the fourth "canonized gospel!" ---The one that is the most prophetic since it was written by the same author as the book of Revelation. We are talking about the book of John.
John mentions at least three Passovers which means that the synoptics simply didn't mention one or two!
John 2:13 (Jesus first journey to Jerusalem); John 6:4 (feeding of the 5000 where there was "much grass" [such as would be in the spring, not fall; also compare Mark 2:23 with 6:39 where obviously a full year had passed since we have changed from "fully ripened grain" to "green grass"]); and John 11:55 (the passion Passover).
But just as importantly, the rest of the bible clues us into the fact that His ministry was 3.5 years long, with yet another passover implied between John 2:13 and 6:4. (See John 4:35 and 5:1.)
(For arguments sake, it is possible that Jesus ministry was just 3 years, and the half-year is made up symbolically or literally by John the Baptist who was born a half-year before Jesus was.) And as far as I can determine, this is the conscensus of opinion --- (i.e., a two to 3.5-years span). Beside the gospel accounts, we have the two witnesses of Rev. 11 who, in agreement with Dan. 9 and 12 prophesy 1260 days and then are slain but then rise after 3.5 days. It is so obvious that their ministry is a shadow of Christ's own ministry that it is silly to argue otherwise. (The difference being that Christ preached the fruits of grace the other law like John the Baptist. The two witnesses are patterned after Moses and Elijah who in turn are a shadow and type of Jesus and John. Mark 9.)
Now, the 490 days is both days and years of same value intersecting one another. It is not that you are competely wrong, but that you have ommitted much of the glory of this prophecy! The 490 days does interwork with the 1260. As you know the 490 is divided up into 483 + 7 days. It happens that 770 + 490 = 1260 days as does 777 + 483. Thus, Christ's 1260-day ministry lasted 1260 days divided as 777 + 483, which then agrees with a lot of what you said, only you left out the most important and obvious parts!
Moreover, 1150 days (Dan. 8) from when Christ began His 1260-day ministry lands us upon the festival of lights/dedication (John 10:22), mentioned once in the bible and that in the book of John, which occured in the last year of His life, thus 110 days before Passover (Kislev 24/25 on the 360 calendar to Nisan 14/15th as per John and synoptics respectively). (1150 + 110 days = 1260 days.)
This is more than a remarkable concidence since the 1150 was initially fulfilled by Antiochus Ephephenes on Kislev 24/25, 165 BC in fulfillment of this very prophecy of Dan. 8 and the 1150 days (2300 evenings and morning), which is where the festival of lights/dedication has its origins!
How obvious does God have to make it!
So we have two very powerful points in time that prove that Christ began His ministry on Tabernacles (or at least John did) and ended 3.5 years (1260 days) later on Passover, with the first 1150 days landing on the feast of lights in fulfillment of Dan. 8 (as well as Dan. 9 and Dan. 10-12)!
More could be said, such as the clue given at the beginning of Jesus' ministry where He reminds us of the days of Elijah "where he shut up the heavens for 3.5 years." (Luke 4:25), as well as John 2:20 (46 + 3 more years = a jubilee of 7 x 7 from when Herod's temple was built and then destroyed symbolically in the body of Christ. "Destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days." Thus three days, but with 3 more years of ministry too! See this passage in John to know what I am talking about.)
To this we add the fact that Christ began His 3-year (or 3.5-year) ministry at [B]30 [/B]years of age on the [B]30th [/B]jubilee from what should have been the first feast of Tabernacles (1445 BC), but unfortunately the Canaan-land entry was delayed another 39 years due to unbelief, just as Jerusalem and Herod's temple likewise perished one generation after Christ died, etc.
Once again we find ourselves arguing over one mountain than another only to find out that one was hidden from view from the other, but the prophet spoke of both simutaneously. This is as true numerically as it is narratively. We must come up higher to see that "Not one jot or tittle will by any means pass away from the law until all is fulfilled!"
Also this statement you made is false, or at least misleading (not judging your motive):
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Most people agree that according to three of the four canonized gospels, only one Passover is mentioned, and it can be concluded from these accounts that Jesus had a short ministry spanning at the most one year, beginning at His Baptism and ending with the Crucifixion.
This statement ignores the fourth "canonized gospel!" ---The one that is the most prophetic since it was written by the same author as the book of Revelation. We are talking about the book of John.
John mentions at least three Passovers which means that the synoptics simply didn't mention one or two!
John 2:13 (Jesus first journey to Jerusalem); John 6:4 (feeding of the 5000 where there was "much grass" [such as would be in the spring, not fall; also compare Mark 2:23 with 6:39 where obviously a full year had passed since we have changed from "fully ripened grain" to "green grass"]); and John 11:55 (the passion Passover).
But just as importantly, the rest of the bible clues us into the fact that His ministry was 3.5 years long, with yet another passover implied between John 2:13 and 6:4. (See John 4:35 and 5:1.)
(For arguments sake, it is possible that Jesus ministry was just 3 years, and the half-year is made up symbolically or literally by John the Baptist who was born a half-year before Jesus was.) And as far as I can determine, this is the conscensus of opinion --- (i.e., a two to 3.5-years span). Beside the gospel accounts, we have the two witnesses of Rev. 11 who, in agreement with Dan. 9 and 12 prophesy 1260 days and then are slain but then rise after 3.5 days. It is so obvious that their ministry is a shadow of Christ's own ministry that it is silly to argue otherwise. (The difference being that Christ preached the fruits of grace the other law like John the Baptist. The two witnesses are patterned after Moses and Elijah who in turn are a shadow and type of Jesus and John. Mark 9.)
Now, the 490 days is both days and years of same value intersecting one another. It is not that you are competely wrong, but that you have ommitted much of the glory of this prophecy! The 490 days does interwork with the 1260. As you know the 490 is divided up into 483 + 7 days. It happens that 770 + 490 = 1260 days as does 777 + 483. Thus, Christ's 1260-day ministry lasted 1260 days divided as 777 + 483, which then agrees with a lot of what you said, only you left out the most important and obvious parts!
Moreover, 1150 days (Dan. 8) from when Christ began His 1260-day ministry lands us upon the festival of lights/dedication (John 10:22), mentioned once in the bible and that in the book of John, which occured in the last year of His life, thus 110 days before Passover (Kislev 24/25 on the 360 calendar to Nisan 14/15th as per John and synoptics respectively). (1150 + 110 days = 1260 days.)
This is more than a remarkable concidence since the 1150 was initially fulfilled by Antiochus Ephephenes on Kislev 24/25, 165 BC in fulfillment of this very prophecy of Dan. 8 and the 1150 days (2300 evenings and morning), which is where the festival of lights/dedication has its origins!
How obvious does God have to make it!
So we have two very powerful points in time that prove that Christ began His ministry on Tabernacles (or at least John did) and ended 3.5 years (1260 days) later on Passover, with the first 1150 days landing on the feast of lights in fulfillment of Dan. 8 (as well as Dan. 9 and Dan. 10-12)!
More could be said, such as the clue given at the beginning of Jesus' ministry where He reminds us of the days of Elijah "where he shut up the heavens for 3.5 years." (Luke 4:25), as well as John 2:20 (46 + 3 more years = a jubilee of 7 x 7 from when Herod's temple was built and then destroyed symbolically in the body of Christ. "Destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days." Thus three days, but with 3 more years of ministry too! See this passage in John to know what I am talking about.)
To this we add the fact that Christ began His 3-year (or 3.5-year) ministry at [B]30 [/B]years of age on the [B]30th [/B]jubilee from what should have been the first feast of Tabernacles (1445 BC), but unfortunately the Canaan-land entry was delayed another 39 years due to unbelief, just as Jerusalem and Herod's temple likewise perished one generation after Christ died, etc.
Once again we find ourselves arguing over one mountain than another only to find out that one was hidden from view from the other, but the prophet spoke of both simutaneously. This is as true numerically as it is narratively. We must come up higher to see that "Not one jot or tittle will by any means pass away from the law until all is fulfilled!"
how does Shekel keep all of this stuff in his head?
and keep it straight?
it's a miracle!
and keep it straight?
it's a miracle!
QUOTE(dennis mann @ Oct 1 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]123107[/snapback]
how does Shekel keep all of this stuff in his head?
and keep it straight?
it's a miracle!
I am anxiously awaiting Shekel's return. The stuff in his head stirs my heart and makes me hungry for more meat.
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