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guysmith
ozell,

You stated that you believe that "death is swallowed up in victory" at the end of the millennium. Then how do you explain:

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Do you believe that Paul got it wrong?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith



ozell
QUOTE (guysmith @ Jun 9 2008, 04:31 AM) *
ozell,

You stated that you believe that "death is swallowed up in victory" at the end of the millennium. Then how do you explain:

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Do you believe that Paul got it wrong?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith



Paul is right!!

death is swallowed up in victory after the 1000 years at Judgement day.

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how do I explain 1 corithians 15v51-54


you have both resurrection in those verses

take a look at verse 51and 52

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

notice we have a trump thae last trump.

when is this trump sounded? is at the coming of Jesus or at the coming of the Father's kingdom after the 1000 year rule or judgement day.

let take a quick look at the last or 7th trump

Rv 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

look what happens when the 7th trumpet is sounded. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ


1Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

when we read 1Corithians15v53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality

we are going into Jesus kingdom.

why do I say this?

check this out, go to

Rev20v7: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8: And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9: And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire
.

after the 1000 year rule of Jesus we still have humans on this earth, which satan is set free to decieve

but notice that at the white throne judgement these put on incorruption until after they are judged

but they follow what Paul said about and this mortal must put on immortality

they put on immortality to be judged whether they get into God's kingdom or the Lake of Fire

they have to put on immortality. yet they might not put on incorruption.

the corrupt will have immortality but in he lake of fire.


so that leaves us with 1Corithians15v54 the end of the verse

Death is swallowed up in victory.

there is dying in Jesus kingdom Jesus 1000 year rule.


Isa 65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.21: And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

22: They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

23: They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

24: And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

25: The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

there is no dying in the FATHER KINGDOM 1000 years after Jesus

death is swallowed up before the Father kingdom come down which is AFTER the 1000 year rule of Jesus.

here is death being swallowed up

14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

the end of death happen before we go into the Revelation 21

but it won't happen until the 1000 year rule is over with.



forgive me Guy I saw this topic when I went to your profile.

please alert me somehow if you have some more that I missed.

peace to you in Jesus name
Zionist
This is partly true only!

“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully. Daniel 7:8

“As I looked, “thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days [God the Father] took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened. Daniel 7:8-10

“Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.) Daniel 7:11

….But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Revelation 19:20

…“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days [God the Father] and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. Daniel 7:8-13

----------This is a separate paragraph and not linked to the other verse of Revelation verse 10--------
Then I saw a great white throne and him [God the FATHER] who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead [The Saints] were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. Revelation 20:11-12

….For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us [Saints], what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17

….For we must all [Saints]appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10

….Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous. Psalm 1:5

…..And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. –Jude 1:6


-----The Throne of God, the FATHER During the Judgment day, at the end of the little horn’s rule ----

The Spirit lifted me up between earth and heaven and in visions of God he took me to Jerusalem, to the entrance to the north gate of the inner court, where the idol that provokes to jealousy stood [Where the little horn sets up the image]. And there before me was the glory of the God of Israel, as in the vision I had seen in the plain. Ezekiel 8:3-4

While I watched, the cherubim spread their wings and rose from the ground, and as they went, the wheels went with them. They stopped at the entrance to the east gate of the LORD'S house, and the glory of the God of Israel was above them. Ezekiel 10:19

Then the man brought me to the gate facing east, and I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east. His voice was like the roar of rushing waters, and the land was radiant with his glory. The vision I saw was like the vision I had seen when he came to destroy the city and like the visions I had seen by the Kebar River, and I fell facedown. The glory of the LORD entered the temple through the gate facing east. Then the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court, and the glory of the LORD filled the temple. Ezekiel 43:1-5

While the man was standing beside me, I heard someone speaking to me from inside the temple. He said: “Son of man, this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet. This is where I will live among the Israelites forever…Ezekiel 43:6

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---The little horn’s power taken away and thrown in the lake of fire
---Satan Imprisoned
---Judgment set up in Jerusalem
---Others judged: Servants, Saints, and Prophets either given Immortality or found guilty depending on what they did.
---Saints (144,000 only) preside over the Judgment, they are resurrected to Immortality.
---Demons judged and found guilty and thrown into the lake of fire.
---The Judgment finishes AND the New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven with no temple. The other Jerusalem city moved Southwards.
---The Son and Father reign for a 1000 years (1 year=365 days) [Their reign has a double fulfillment in earth years and Bible years]; YET,
---Satan released from Prison after 1000 years. He actually does not spend a 1000 years but only spends 1,000 years in Bible years [a 1,000 revolutions around the sun but comes short]. Why is this? you work it out?
---The death of Satan and his hidden brood [Magog and Gog].

guysmith
Hello Ozel,

You stated: take a look at verse 51and 52

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

notice we have a trump thae last trump.

when is this trump sounded? is at the coming of Jesus or at the coming of the Father's kingdom after the 1000 year rule or judgement day.

My response: So, you believe the first resurrection is at the end of the millennium?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith
guysmith
Hello Zionist,

Welcome to the forum. Do you see Mt Zion in Jerusalam as THE place-of-safety for a group of Christians for the duration of the GT?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith
http://www.geocities.com/guysmith123/144000
ozell
Daniel 7v1: In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

2: Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3: And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
(babylon, medeo persia, greece, rome)

4: The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
babylon

5: And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
medo persia

6: After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
greece

7: After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
rome, and it had ten horns, notice no one replace rome as the other nations had been

8: I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
the horn comes from rome, rome is still in power according to verse 7, it was never taken from power

9: I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

IN VERSE 7 AND 8 we have Rome still in power along with 10 horns and a little horn, yet in verse 9 it says the thrones were cast down and the ancient of days did sit, who is this ancient of days? and the throneS was cast down, plural thrones , the thrones was cast down at the coming of Jesus,
Jesus is the one who took down the kingdoms(thrones).


10: A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

we find out in verse 10, judgement was set and the books are opened. the prophecy jumps from the thrones being cast down to Judgement day. 1000 years separation

go to revelation and read the same event

Rev20v7: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

In verse 10 of daniel we have the ancient of days as God the Father

we have the white thone judgement here in Daniel10


11: I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

the above verse we go back 1000 years to Jesus coming, the beast and the little horn are destroyed by Jesus

Rev19v
11: And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12: His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13: And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
20: And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

12: As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

of course the bible says

Rev20v5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

13: I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

now we have Jesus coming to the Father.

14: And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

this is Jesus kingdom, people is the keyword .

there are no people in the Father's kingdom.

we have both resurrections in Daniel 7

the 1st resurrection with Jesus

we have the white thone judgement where everyone who did not make the first resurrection stand in Judgement.

notice at the white throne judgement everyone is turned into a spirit being

some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt


Jn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
ozell
QUOTE (guysmith @ Jul 12 2008, 05:12 AM) *
Hello Ozel,

You stated: take a look at verse 51and 52

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

notice we have a trump thae last trump.

when is this trump sounded? is at the coming of Jesus or at the coming of the Father's kingdom after the 1000 year rule or judgement day.

My response: So, you believe the first resurrection is at the end of the millennium?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith


the first resurrection is at the beginning of the the millineum

the first resurrection is at Jesus coming.

the 7th trump sounds and brings Jesus off the throne for battle.

the 7 trump brings Jesus the angels and the people which is the 1st resurrection..




Zionist
Guysmith,

God only made a promised to his people, the Jewish people that they would never fail to exist. He made this promised to his beloved friend Abraham. God will keep this promised, even though the Little horn will try to exterminate the Jewish nation.
God also made a promise to the Church that the gates of hell or rather Hades would not prevail against it, that is that it would not completely kill every Christian, endowed with the double portion spirit.

This does not mean that The Jewish nation will not have persecution during the tribulation, in fact only a small remnant will survival this second Holocaust to come to the nation. With the Church to be set up, The Christians [wherever they are] are NOT allowed to fight back when the little horn makes war with them during the tribulation. Unlike Zion which will have to fight for its existence.

For GOD to keep his promised to his friend Abraham before the tribulation he will have to provide a place of safety for a remnant ONLY. They will receive help and safety for three and half years. [Bare in mind there is one seven remaining and when half the seven begins the Tribulation starts] These will escape OUT from Jerusalem when they see Jerusalem Encircled again. During the Tribulation there will be some remnant inside the Temple. The Little horn will not be allowed to enter the Temple. He will though set up the image at the North Gate of the temple.
Who is allowed to go inside the temple? ONLY Levites and priest are allowed by law. But in the Court of Men, these will be Only those whom God allows. If someone tries to enter it without approval (s)he will be expire.

For Christians:
The apostles lost their lives, the prophets lost their lives and the most of the early Christians lost their lives. And now for this coming end of the age, Most Christian will lose their lives too. The true Christians have been marked for slaughter for the coming tribulation. God has not promise any one in particular any free passage to the Kingdom.

Yet for Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Psalm 44:22

Thus says the LORD my God, "Feed the flock for slaughter, Zechariah 11:4

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. --Rev 12:17

Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. --Rev 6:11

It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them --Rev 13:7

For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her." Rev 19:2

And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. --Rev 20:4

Remember the words of the Christ, if you want to save your life, you will lose it, but if you lose your life on account of him you will gain it back. “ Remember Lot’s wife. “ Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. Luke 17:33

I live you with this inspiring verses:

…..Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection; and
others experienced mockings and scourgings, yes, also chains and imprisonment.
They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tempted,
they were put to death with the sword; they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, ill-treated (men of whom the world was not worthy), wandering in deserts and mountains and caves and holes in the ground.

And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us they would not be made perfect.
ozell


is this verse fulfilled?

Lk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

is the times of the gentiles fulfilled?

if the answer is yes?

why do the Protestants and Catholic churches rule? the world. militarily, finacially, economically.

if the answer is no

where is Israel according to this verse.

the fight for Jerusalem continue, changing hands between the 3 son's of Noah for genrations,
now we are in for the final battle between man, who will run Jerusalem

the answer the gentiles.

where is Israel?

captivity




guysmith
Hello Zionist,

If Mount Zion is not the place to be, then who are those that Christ fights for in Zechariah 14: 1-5.

Also, If Mount Zion is not the place to be, then what is the signicance of:

And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said,
among the survivors whom the LORD calls. Joel 2: 32

In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel. Those who are left in Zion, who remain in Jerusalem, will be called holy, all who are recorded among the living in Jerusalem. Isaiah 4:2,3

Blow the trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast, Call a sacred assembly; ---Joel 2:15

For out of Zion shall go forth the law --Isaiah 2:3

For the LORD shall build up Zion; He shall appear in His glory. ---Psalms 102:16

Then the moon will be disgraced And the sun ashamed; For the LORD of hosts will reign On Mount Zion and in Jerusalem And before His elders, gloriously. ---Isaiah 24:23

"The Redeemer will come to Zion, And to those who turn from transgression in Jacob," Says the LORD.-- Isaiah 59:20

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith
Zionist
Guy Smith,

He is fighting for the people of Israel from being exterminated as a nation. This event takes place when all the nations are coming up against Jerusalem to completely destroy it at the last seven. However, the place of safety spoken by revelation 12:14 is at the beginning of the tribulation, and not at the end.

Zechariah 14:1-9
"Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.
And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; [The stone from Daniel that crushes the statue, and pulverizes it] all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.
……And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, "The inhabitants of Jerusalem [Tells us who these people are] are my strength in the LORD of hosts, their God.'
In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place--Jerusalem.

….It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Continuing with Zechariah from Above:
….Judah also will fight at Jerusalem. And the wealth of all the surrounding nations Shall be gathered together: Gold, silver, and apparel in great abundance. Zechariah 14:14

…For thus says the LORD: "Sing with gladness for Jacob, And shout among the chief of the nations; Proclaim, give praise, and say, "O LORD, save Your people, The remnant of Israel!' Jeremiah 31:7

The daughters of Zion will have to fight for their survival but the church members whereever they are scattered they are not allowed to fight.

"Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion; For I will make your horn iron, And I will make your hooves bronze; You shall beat in pieces many peoples; I will consecrate their gain to the LORD, And their substance to the Lord of the whole earth." Joel 4:13

They shall be like mighty men, Who tread down their enemies In the mire of the streets in the battle. They shall fight because the LORD is with them [In Mount Zion], And the riders on horses shall be put to shame. Habakkuk 10:5

Your people [The Israel nation united by the two tribes] shall be volunteers In the day of Your power; In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning, You have the dew of Your youth. Psalm 110:3

...In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place--Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:6

The people here who survive the attack in Jerusalem at the last seven remaining will wash their robes white. These people left in Jerusalem are NOT given white robes but rather they are washed. These are two distinct groups, ones whose robes are washed and ones whose robes are NEW.

In that day the Branch of the LORD shall be beautiful and glorious; And the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and appealing For those of Israel who have escaped.
And it shall come to pass that he who is left in Zion and remains in Jerusalem will be called holy-[because they will have washed robes]-everyone who is recorded among the living in Jerusalem. When the Lord has washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and purged the blood of Jerusalem from her midst [the one spilt by the winepress spoken in Revelation], by the spirit of judgment and by the spirit of burning Isaiah 4:2-4

….I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, “they are before the throne of God. Revelation 7:14-15

….Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed[These are the Saints and this is the Church or rather the Body of Christ.--Remember Christ is the Head of the church] Revelation 6:11

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The event to follow in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:

[Daniel 9:27]… He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven

[Revelation 11:1] I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there.

[Revelation 11:3] …And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

[Revelation 11:17] Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast (that comes up from the Abyss) will attack them, and overpower and kill them.

[Daniel 9:27] …In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.’”

[Daniel 11:31-32] “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

[Ezekiel 8:3] He stretched out the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of my hair; and the Spirit lifted me up between earth and heaven, and brought me in visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the north gate of the inner court, where the seat of the image of jealousy was, which provokes to jealousy.

[Matthew 24:15-16] “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains [This is Where the 'women' escapes]

[Revelation 11:2] …But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

[Revelation 13:5] The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months

[Revelation 12:14] The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

[Revelation 12:16] The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

[Daniel 7:25] He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.

Dan
QUOTE (guysmith @ Jun 9 2008, 05:31 AM) *
ozell,

You stated that you believe that "death is swallowed up in victory" at the end of the millennium. Then how do you explain:

1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Do you believe that Paul got it wrong?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith



Death is no more after the final devils are removed at the end of Christ's millennial reign.

When there is no one left in existence to receive death as the wages of their sin, then death is swallowed up in victory and done away with.



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