QUOTE (guysmith @ Jun 9 2008, 04:31 AM)

ozell,
You stated that you believe that "death is swallowed up in victory" at the end of the millennium. Then how do you explain:
1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Do you believe that Paul got it wrong?
In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith
Paul is right!!
death is swallowed up in victory after the 1000 years at Judgement day.
QUOTE
how do I explain 1 corithians 15v51-54
you have both resurrection in those verses
take a look at verse 51and 52
1 Cor 15: 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
notice we have a trump thae last trump.
when is this trump sounded? is at the coming of Jesus or at the coming of the Father's kingdom after the 1000 year rule or judgement day.
let take a quick look at the last or 7th trump
Rv 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
look what happens when the 7th trumpet is sounded. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ
1Thes 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and
with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
when we read 1Corithians15v53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality
we are going into Jesus kingdom.
why do I say this?
check this out, go to
Rev20v7:
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8: And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9: And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10: And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
after the 1000 year rule of Jesus we still have humans on this earth, which satan is set free to decieve
but notice that at the white throne judgement these put on incorruption until after they are judged
but they follow what Paul said about and this mortal must put on immortality
they put on immortality to be judged whether they get into God's kingdom or the Lake of Fire
they have to put on immortality. yet they might not put on incorruption.
the corrupt will have immortality but in he lake of fire.
so that leaves us with 1Corithians15v54 the end of the verse
Death is swallowed up in victory.
there is dying in Jesus kingdom Jesus 1000 year rule.
Isa 65:20
There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.21: And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22: They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23: They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
24:
And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25:
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.there is no dying in the FATHER KINGDOM 1000 years after Jesus
death is swallowed up before the Father kingdom come down which is AFTER the 1000 year rule of Jesus.
here is death being swallowed up
14:
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
the end of death happen before we go into the Revelation 21
but it won't happen until the 1000 year rule is over with.
forgive me Guy I saw this topic when I went to your profile.
please alert me somehow if you have some more that I missed.
peace to you in Jesus name