My mother has made a few times when tries remember some of the bible.This one day she was telling me about when Paul begged God for death while he was in prison. Does anyone know if it says that in scripture because I have been looking for it for some time and can't find it.


Jeff

Jeff,

I have no recollection of Paul begging for death because of earthly suffering he had to endure. Is it possible that your mother meant the below verses:

"We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life. Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead, He has delivered us from such a deadly peril, and he will deliver us. On him we have set our hope that he will continue to deliver us, as you might help by your prayers. Then many will give thanks on our behalf for the gracious favor granted us in answer to the prayers of many."
2 Corinthians 1: 8-11

Gods Blessings,

Al

LOL well at least I am reseaching this. I am like you Al cause I cant find anything about this topic. All that I can find is motivated by suffering. I havent look yet but I wonder if there is something about this where it talks about Paul having a thorn that he had to live with.

Thank you so much for finding that verse, it does tell me what I have been believing for some time. You see, in times when I have been in despair people have gotten mad at me and said "how can you be a christian when christians don't ever feel this way no matter what circumstanced your under". Everyone would go on about how great Paul was and that he would suffered far more then I ever did and would have never given up hope because even with his thorn in his flesh and being beaten in prison he was still so perfect. They would compare me to him but yet they left that scripture out which cleary shows with all of Pauls faith he still dispeard from the tortures they did to him in Prison. Meaning he didn't sit there 24/7 repetively saying "holy holy holy praise God Praise God Not going to think negative only going to think posative, not in any pain because Jesus alreay healed me".

This is what all the phonies on TV preach now, posative 24/7 repetive confession "never say a negative word or let yourself be put down, your lettin the enemy win then".



Thanks again

Jeff

Jeff,

Your post reminded me of a past memory. When I was in my 20's I was sick and needed to stay at home from work. I remember that this preacher came on the tv preaching such a positive and Godly message; or so I thought. At the end of his programming something that he did completely took me by surprise. He put his hand to the TV screen and exclaimed, "Touch my hand, believe and all your pain will instantly go away. In order for this healing to be complete you must write a $500.00 check to me." Jeff, I became indignant. How bogus. How many people did this evangelist financially bankrupt with a promise of a healing? God can and does heal but am unsure if he uses such outlandish techniques as this minister used.

Not to long ago one of my patients was watching on TV a lady preacher. She looked good. She was excited and positive. But the more she spoke, a serious student of the Bible could pick apart biblical errors. Jeff, keep on doing what your doing. Keep studying the bible. It is written: "And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them." Romans 8:28

Our Lord knows our cares even before we do. He knows our hurts, pains, and doubts. Here is a song that I hope you will enjoy. "Cry Out to Jesus" http://youtube.com/watch?v=53pCcjIHeuU

Gods Blessings,

Al

Lol. Al, you're story reminded me of my own story about phony preachers, lol. Before I was called, I lived in a warehouse when I was about 22 and our band had practice there. One night after practice (or just me sitting around) I got hammered (per usual, ha), and, saw Benny Hinn on TV. This guy was sooooo fake, I was totally ticked off. I was raised in a Christian home and all that, so, I knew about God etc. This guy just raised my hackles, even not being saved yet. I called the hotline number, and, started laying into the operator who answered which was a young woman. I think I may have been cussing about Hinn. I said, "he's just trying to make money off this &%*&^%$!" LOL. The girl on the other end said, "well, he is spreading the message of Jesus and that you can be saved and a lot of people are getting saved" I was like, "oh, um, ok.. that's ok then. Thanks, bye." LOL. Man, that was the funniest! There was nothing else I could say. The girl had the best answer, lol. I still didn't like Benny Hinn though. Lol.

Thanks for your funny story!

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

What does 'buffet' mean? In this case it probably means 'to fight against.' He may have had a disability and the bible does say if you are made free, use it. I myself have been made free and I have really misused it, but I can't fight against any ruling against me. Notice it says that he could have been exalted. In that case, it means both joyous feeling and praise from outside. There is a statement in the New Testament that says people will seek death and death will flee.
In that case where the preacher was fondling the TV screen and telling people to touch the screen and get healed was an honest request and it does work, just ask the people who enjoy watching porn on their computers. It heals erectile dysfunction.

Thank you Al,

And Jeff . . . I decided to present to you who Paul is in his birth history:

Click here: Benjamin the Cup/Sceptre of Christ
http://benjaminthecupsceptreofchrist.blogspot.com/


And the sceptre/cup continues through the New Testament, bloodline of Paul :

Paul of the Tribe of Benjamin.
Romans 11:1 . . . I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid.
For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin.