damo7



Did Jesus have a hit list or ignore list ? biggrin.gif tongue.gif


I have been reading my bible now since i was 18yrs old the more i read my bible i learn something new i am 40yrs old

can any one inlighten me and please show me those who do study their bibles were Jesus had put people on a ignore list ?


when Jesus picked the 12 disciples what did he say ? he said come follow me



Jesus begins his Galilean ministry


mark 1

14 Now after John Was put in prison Jesus came to Galilee preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God

15 and saying The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of god is at hand Repent and believe in the gospel


four fishermen called as disciples


mark 1

16 and as he walked by the sea of Galilee he saw simon and andrew his brother casting a net into the sea for they were fishermen

17 Then Jesus said to them Follow me and i will make you fishers of men

18 they immidately left their nets and followed him

19 When he had gone a little farther from there he saw James the son of zebedee and John his brother who also were in the boat mending their nets

20 And immediately he called them and they left their father zebedee in the boat with the hired servants and went after him


these guys stopped what they were doing and obeyed him


the twelve apostles

mark 3

13 And he went up to the mountain and called to him those he himself wanted And they came to him

14 Then he appointed twelve that they might be with him and that he might send them out to preach

15 And to have power to heal sickness and to cast out demons


in the scriputures i have left i dont see were Jesus had a hit list or carried a note pad and in the note pad he would put down those that do not respond to him by stating since you ignored me and are using your free will i will put you on my ignore list you are no good to me because you do not believe that i am gods son




mark 4 The purpose of the parables

10 but when he was alone those around him with the twelve asked him about the parable


11 And he said to them to you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of god but to those who are outside all things come in parables

12 so that

seeing they may see and not perceive

And hearing they may hear and not understand

lest they should turn

and their sins be forgiven them



i know that we will never agree when it comes to the way we see what jesus said in the gospels when it comes to how we see what jesus is saying for our selves


our human side will always go against what jesus said its normal as our flesh will never alow us to give in our flesh is so use to the ways of this world


ever since i have had this computer and decided to sign up and get broad band i have had the chance to explore the inter net i am able to see what cyber land has to offer i am amazed with the technologogy and how advanced we are we no longer need to communicate to our friends or to our family we have cyber land and in cyber land we can be who we want to be why no one cant see us we can even show another face as our pastors dont know what we do in cyber land

when i was looking at signing up to a christian forum i took my time to go over the rules and had a chance to read some of the topics the reason i joined up is this were i was living we never had a cell group you only cought up with the people who i met in this church i found my self in on sunday mornings and the monday night prayer meeting

so i decided to sign up as i thought it would give me a chance to make new friends and see what god is doing around the world and a chance to fellowship with like minded christians


i missed my old church as my pastor believed in bible study groups cell groups is what they are called in Australia the cell groups our church had running gave the new christian a chance to meet the members and gave the new christian a chance to grow hear you were encouraged to study your bible and you were also encouraged to use the gifts god has given you my pastor did not believe in keeping a pew warm on a sunday morning or did he see us as a boys club or bless me club


this church i found my self in puzzled me to how one could grow by attending just the sunday morning service with out any real follow up or being involved in a cell group what i did though pick up is this if you are strong in your walk you are fine but if you are new and still of the world you might as well go back to your old life you were use to



i am not perfect but i am willing to work on my flaws i was never taught to put any one who disagreed with me on a ignore list

in the line of work i do as a goverment foster carer we do not even put the kids in our care on a ignore list these kids will push your buttons they will test you to the point were they will call you everything under the sun all you can do is be bullet proof let the hurt full words fly over you and just stand your ground with out using physical force or taking something they like off them for two weeks

if you do this to were you take for example their x box or tv or stereo off them you can say good by to your job you will never be alowed to work with troubled and abused and damaged youth


we took two of our kids under our care for a trip to the coast for 2 days these kids have never been to the coast or had they been camping we took them to a christian camp sight

the first night was hard on me and their mentor who is a young single pastor he works on soft love i work on tuff love instead of doing what was asked these young kids swore at the mentor all we asked if they help us set the tents up we wil get dinner out the way the youngest boy got into the van locked the doors and started hitting the horn then he put the high beam on and he directed the lights to the other campers who were having their dinner it gets worse he rolled down the window and he swore at the mentor this kid wil make an adult blush and he is only 13yrs old

the other boy decided to push my buttons i looked at the mentor he looked at me we stopped doing what we were doing the mentor went to the young boy in the van while i was left with the other kid alex i wil call him tried his hardest to up set me but i did not let him get to me i was able to calm him down when i had calmed alex down he went along and helped paul sort out bill it took 2hrs for bill and the mentor to get bill to come around


hear is why bill went off he wanted a micro wave to warm up his meal which could have been cooked on an open camp fire bill saw that the camp sight had kitchens that campers could use and decided to test his mentor out and the mentor could not pull him up because their were other christians around and this will make the mentor look bad and he wil have the others feeling sorry for him

the mentor said to bill if you help us set the tents up he will go to the front office and ask how much it wil cost to pay for the kitchen we were on a budget so the mentor did this out of his own money this calmed bill down this also happend in town this time alex went of in the main street kicked the van real hard to were we have to do an incident report called us both everything under the sun he could have walked by him self to get two pies all he wanted was for the mentor to have a cold meal and drive him alex got nothing as i put my foot down he had to weight til we got home but the mentor caved in he got him two pies half way which got me mad but i forgave the mentor


this trip would not have happend with out me agreeing as the mentor could not take these kids by him self only i was allowed to pull these kids up if they played up as i was told to use my own head i wil have full support by my boss

i did though talk to the mentor and said you did up set me and know he is going to try this my way if their ever comes a second chance to take these kids away when we got home we had to deal with another kid he smashed his bed room window so the police had to be called as its property damage




i am seeing christians are the same as the kids we deal with

if they do not get their way or see that you are not willing to hear them out they wil put you on a ignore list to see this ignore list in cyber land supprises me


i am on such a list which does not worry me one bit at all


can any one inlighten me and show me in your own words by what i have left hear


can you please show me were jesus had such a list and are we to do this with new christians ? am i to teach my youngest boy who is only 11yrs old and tell him if some one does not agree with him he is to put them on a ignore list or are we to do what jesus taught his disciples ?


John 8

15 you Judge according to the flesh i Judge no one


this is my clossing point

John 3

16 For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life



is this everlasting life Jesus is talking about only for those who have a hit list were they have people like my self who they disagree with or is this everlasting life jesus is talking about for sinners like my self who belive he is the son of god who belive that he died for my sins and rose on the third day i am a little lost or you could say an evil trinitarian

can some one guide a gulable evil trinitarian and show some hard proof were jesus had a hit list


evil trinitarian in need of gods people who study their bibles to answer this

god bless from damo biggrin.gif