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A DISCUSSION OF BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGY


SOME QUOTES OF PROMINENT BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND OTHERS


"It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archaeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical description has often led to amazing discoveries."

Dr. Nelson Glueck, reknowned Jewish archeologist. (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


"Archaeology has confirmed countless passages which have been rejected by critics as unhistorical or contradictory to known facts......Yet archaeological discoveries have shown that these critical charges.....are wrong and that the Bible is trustworthy in the very statements which have been set aside as untrustworthy.....We do not know of any cases where the Bible has been proved wrong."

Dr. Joseph P. Free. (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


"The reader may rest assured that nothing has been found [by archaeologists] to disturb a reasonable faith, and nothing has been discovered which can disprove a single theological doctrine. We no longer trouble ourselves with attempts to 'harmonize' religion and science, or to 'prove' the Bible. The Bible can stand for itself."

Dr. William F. Albright, eminent archeologist who confired the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls following their discovery (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html)


"There can be no doubt that archaeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of Old Testament tradition."

Dr. William F. Albright (taken from: http://www.gospeloutreach.net/bible.html )


"On the whole, however, archaeological work has unquestionably strengthened confidence in the reliability of the Scriptural record. More than one archaeologist has found his respect for the Bible increased by the experience of excavation in Palestine....Archaeology has in many cases refuted the views of modern critics. It has shown, in a number of instances, that these views rest on false assumptions and unreal, artificial schemes of historical development. This is a real contribution and not to be minimized."

Millar Burrows, Professor of Archaeology at Yale University (taken from:
http://www.greatcom.org/resources/know_why...p07/default.htm


"It is therefore legitimate to say that, in respect of that part of the Old Testament against which the disintegrating criticism of the last half of the nineteenth century was chiefly directed, the evidence of archaeology has been to reestablish its authority and likewise to augment its value by rendering it more intelligible through a fuller knowledge of its background and setting. Archaeology has not yet said its last word, but the results already achieved confirm what faith would suggest – that the Bible can do nothing but gain from an increase in knowledge...
It is therefore legitimate to say that, in respect of that part of the Old Testament against which the disintegrating criticism of the last half of the nineteenth century was chiefly directed, the evidence of archaeology has been to reestablish its authority and likewise to augment its value by rendering it more intelligible through a fuller knowledge of its background and setting. Archaeology has not yet said its last word, but the results already achieved confirm what faith would suggest – that the Bible can do nothing but gain from an increase in knowledge."

Sir Frederic Kenyon, a former director of the British Museum (taken from:
http://www.greatcom.org/resources/know_why...p07/default.htm

"I set out to look for truth on the borderland where Greece and Asia meet, and found it there. You may press the words of Luke in a degree beyond any other historian's and they stand the keenest scrutiny and the hardest treatment."

Sir William Ramsey, eminent archaeologists who changed his mind regarding Luke after extensive study (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of facts trustworthy; he is possessed of the true historic sense...In short this author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians."

Sir William Ramsey, archaeologist (taken from: http://godisforus.com/information/bible/ev...archaeology.htm )


"In every instance where the findings of archaeology pertain to the Biblical record, the archaeological evidence confirms, sometimes in detailed fashion, the historical accuracy of Scripture. In those instances where the archaeological findings seem to be at variance with the Bible, the discrepancy lies with the archaeological evidence, i.e., improper interpretation, lack of evidence, etc. -- not with the Bible."

Dr. Bryant C. Wood, archaeologist, Associates for Biblical Research (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


"Through the wealth of data uncovered by historical and archaeological research, we are able to measure the Bible's historical accuracy. In every case where its claims can thus be tested, the Bible proves to be accurate and reliable."

Dr. Jack Cottrell (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


"I know of no finding in archaeology that’s properly confirmed which is in opposition to the Scriptures. The Bible is the most accurate history textbook the world has ever seen."

Dr Clifford Wilson, formerly director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology

taken from: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3893.asp


Finally, The reknowned archaeologist Millar Burrow of Yale states, "The excessive skepticism of many liberal theologians stems not from a careful evaluation of the available data, but from an enormous predisposition against the supernatural."
(taken from: http://godisforus.com/information/bible/ev...rchaeology.htm)


ARCHAEOLOGY CAN CORROBORATE BUT NOT PROVE THE BIBLE

See this Jewish site: http://ohr.edu/special/books/gott/truth-5.htm

(I am a Christian but I felt as though this was a good article)


EXAMPLES OF BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGY


http://www.christiananswers.net/archaeology/home.html

http://lionofjudah.tribulationforces.com/g...rchaeology.html

http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr1998/r&r9806a.htm

http://www.theexaminer.org/volume5/number3/bible.htm


LIMITATIONS OF ARCHAEOLOGY

While archaeology is of great help to our understanding the Bible, the biblical evidence in the text must be given priority over the archaeological evidence from the field. The reason for this is the inherent limitations of archaeology. The primary limitation of archaeology is the extremely fragmentary nature of the archaeological evidence. Only a fraction of what is made or what is written survives. Most of the great Near Eastern archives were destroyed in antiquity through wars, looters, natural disasters or the ravages of time. To this we must add the limitation that less than 2% of sites in Israel have been excavated and hundreds more will never be excavated due to lack of access or resources and destruction through building projects, military maneuvers, and pillaging by Bedouins. Even when this small percentage of sites are excavated, only a fraction of the site is actually examined, and then only a percentage of what is excavated is ever published. Of the 500,000 cuneiform texts that are known to have been discovered over the past 100 years, only 10% have ever been published.

(this was taken from: http://www.imja.com/Archeology.html )


BIBLE PLACES AND INDIVIDUALS CONFIRMED OR TENTATIVELY CONFIRMED OUT OF THE POSSIBLE TOTALS

I read an interesting site which discusses which Bible places and individuals have been confirmed out of the possible totals. The author also gives his editorial opinions.

1) Bible places confirmed

http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/BNamesGeographicInOT50.htm

2) Here is lists of Bible individuals who have been confirmed:

http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/BHistoricityOfCharacters.htm


ARCHAEOLOGY CONTROVERSIES

Most of the controversies in Bible archaelogy has to do with dating. I personally, think this is now the weakest link in archaeology.

Here is a website that discusses this:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/rr1993/r&r9311a.htm

Here is some information from a website which features a LA Times article which states that a Bible chronology dispute is said to have been resolved in the Bibles favor:

"From History News Network hnn.us/comments/11079.html


News Archives 3-03 to 4-03
Subject: Israeli Kings No Myth
Posted By: Editor
Date Posted: April 17, 2003, 8:17 PM
Los Angeles Times

12 April 2003 Saturday Home Edition

SECTION: Main News; Part 1; Page 25; National Desk

HEADLINE: Science File; Israeli Kings No Myth, New Data Suggest

BYLINE: Thomas H. Maugh II, Times Staff Writer

New radioactive dating from a major Iron Age site called Tel Rehov in northern Israel supports the biblical tradition that David and his son Solomon, founders of the ancient kingdom of Israel, were real nation-builders and not largely mythical figures, as some revisionist historians have argued.

Recent excavations at Megiddo, 25 miles west of Rehov, had suggested that palaces and other artifacts there once associated with Solomon were built by a later family of rulers called the Omrides. Based on those finds, archeologist Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University established a so-called Low Chronology in which Solomon and David are minor chieftains at best.

But a team led by archeologist Amihai Mazar of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem reported in Friday's issue of Science that carbon from olive pits and charred grain from one of three "destruction layers" at Tel Rehov date the layer to 940 to 900 BC. The destruction layers mark times when the site was demolished before being rebuilt.

The new dates correspond to a Sherman-like march across Palestine by the Egyptian Pharaoh Shoshenq, a well-documented event that occurred around 925 BC. According to the biblical books I Kings and II Chronicles, Shoshenq began his invasion five years after Solomon's death. Because Tel Rehov was a 10-hectare urban center, the dating supports the biblical account of Solomon."

taken from: http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4150

(If you click on the above link you will see that some individuals dispute the information posted at the History News Network [and LA Times] ).


MORE FAITH BUILDING MATERIAL AND ARTICLES

If you liked this material on Bible archaeology and would like to read other faith building material please click the link below:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=199
gregg
Moderator's note. Like Maz use to say: "I am clearing this with reserve"I am clearing this, but I must admit that I have no clue what it is about. I do not find it coherent. I also don't just want to delete it, so here goes. Cornelius


Let me quote Dr. William Albright from the article above which is something I do not personally do any other time and that is use somebody else's opinion which is from their energy center and understanding who the Albright family is would seem to me to put a yay or nay on the process spoken of. The United States is obviously at war with an enemy which has drawn most if not all countries into the disagreement that this government; which is of, by, and for the people, has with peace and retribution. The definition of retribution would arise from the statement 'The terrorist attack of 9/11/01 on the towers in New York was because of . . .' You can finish that statement any way or with any thought that fills the end.
The statement is, 'The reader may rest assured that nothing has been found . . . to disturb a reasonable faith and nothing has been discovered that can disprove a single theological doctrine. . .' But why? We read in the bible that there is a single creator or, maybe, a family with a single intention that created the universe for a purpose. We also read that the creator (God, Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohiym, whoever you want to call) blessed himself because He had no one other to bless.
What is the end of this thought is, 'the discovery of the Picture Bible Code is the example of the first language.' Hebrew may have been the first written language, but it was not the first language.
I will go on to say that the first language was and is movement. There is a language called 'body language,' which is the beginning of the action. There had to be some way to describe the action in order because there is a first and last, a beginning and an end.
The discovery of the Picture Bible Code had a beginning and it will have an end or you can say the end is contained in the picture which is the beginning.
To learn something you have have something to teach. In the bible, the descendants of Abram was like the sands of the sea in number.
Does that mean that Abram's descendants are numbers? Or does that mean that each number descendant will have the sands of the sea?
Most of us take that to mean that the number of descendants of Abram are so numerous like the sands of the sea, and you stop there.
Jesus Christ said something like 'You say to me that you are Abraham's descendants. If you were Abraham's descendants, you would not want to kill me.'
He goes on to say other things but those are irrelevant to my thought.
My thought is that you have teaching in numbers. Is there 'Number Bible Codes?' Like, Roman numerals or Hebrew numerals or Aramaic numerals. Some of us know that mathmatics is a tool of teaching and mathmatics is the manipulation of numbers. And there is Geometry and in the bible you have designs of structures such that you have a room so many cubits long and so many cubits wide and on. Does this not make up geometric figues like hexagrams and triangles and rectangles. Apart from that, you already have the Picture Bible Codes. Using a computer, can you put all of the pictues in a figure so that the figure contains the pictures.
For example, Noah took two of every kind of animal into the ark. Each animal, I'm sure, had a characteristic and the ark was a defined structure. It might take years upon years to define the animals, but we have an idea by what we have now. Using the picture or the figure of the animals can we not find the message of these animals and place all findings in a structure so that it will relay the meaning of our own presence?
To further state my beliefs, I believe we are all natures and that is backed up by Native American teachings of Shamanism and differing clans, such as the butterfly clan, the turtle clan, etc. I also believe that we are not supposed to have these natures, we are supposed to have 'dominion' over these natures which would be a separate being. We might be able to figure what these natures and putting them into a structure. We do not have horses to help us nor cows nor pigs nor sheep; those were found not to help us; so Eve was made. And that, I believe, would be something different than a nature.
Yes, we have men and women and children, but these are grouped in clans and the clans are defined by the nature of the people.
God is Spirit and God is invisible. We were created in the image and likeness of God.
Well, that's my lesson for today. smile.gif
The words above could be a prophesy and maybe it is just speaking in air but as it says 'He that speaketh in an tongue edifieth himself.'
Adonaicole
This is my very website for biblical archaeology.

http://www.anchorstone.com/
mead777
I highly recommend this article:

The Book of Acts andArchaeology by Craig S. Hawkins
http://www.apologeticsinfo.org/papers/actsarcheology.html

Brian
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Mar 23 2006, 03:40 PM)
This is my very website for biblical archaeology.

http://www.anchorstone.com/
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You must agree though that what Ron Wyatt was doing certainly wasn;t archaeology.

I am not sure if Ron was sincere, mentally ill, or just a crook, but his grasp of archaeology is amazingly inept.

Also very surprising is the failure of any supporting evidence for any of Ron's 'discoveries'.

His claim for the crossing at Aqabah is also unbiblical.

C
Somebody ask Pamela, I think her father (and her?) met Ron. Am I right Pamela?

I found this:


Back in 1990 I decided to check out the claims of not only Ron Wyatt but also of others who said that they had made Biblical discoveries. I planned to make a trip to the Middle East to see for myself, as scripture says, whether those things were so. I also wanted to come to some conclusion about the things that I had been hearing.

One night while watching a Bible based television news show I heard Ron Wyatt telling of his discovery of Noah's Ark, not up in the ice and snow where it would be almost impossible to get to, but in an area where you could actually go and check it out.

The person interviewing Ron mentioned the fact that Ron had written a book. So, the next day I went to a large Christian book store expecting to find a shelf full of expensive, professionally marketed and cleverly written books telling all about Ron Wyatt and his discoveries. Boy was I surprised! When the owner of the book store finally got the book for me, I found that it was an inexpensive, simply stated, documentation of the claims both pro and con as to the discovery of Noah’s Ark.

From the book I was able to find out Ron's address and from that his telephone number. After several tries, I was finally able to reach him and during our conversation I asked him if I could come and talk with him about his discoveries. He said: "come on over"; and when he found out that I would be flying in he insisted on picking me up at the airport.

When I arrived at the Nashville Airport he was right there to meet me. I was taken to his home where I spent the day and half the night looking at video, artifacts and other very convincing documentation as to the discovery of Noah’s Ark as well as many other things.

I told Ron that I planned to make a trip to the Middle East, and before I left that night, he asked: "When are you going over?" I told him when I was going, and to my surprise, he said "Well, If you will help me work on Noah's Ark, I'll just go with you." I couldn't believe it. There I was trying to figure out how to get to all these places and now the man that made the discoveries was going to personally take me there. I don't think that he really expected much help with Noah's Ark. That was just a nice way for Ron to say that he would like to help me, without saying so. In other words, He was going to help me but he had turned it around like he needed me to help him. That is the way Ron was if he thought that you were honestly searching for the truth. He would do anything to help. He was a little different if he thought otherwise. Well, maybe a lot different!

We made our trip to the Middle East and I tried my best to be of as much service as possible. I must have been of some assistance, because he has allowed me to help ever since. I have even had the honor to be on hand as new discoveries were made.

Please allow me to share with you what I have learned, not only about the discoveries of Ron Wyatt, but about Ron Wyatt the man.

To begin with, the discoveries of Ron Wyatt "just don't fit in" with "traditional thinking" and when you go against "tradition" you are asking for it. Ron knew that; and was willing to take the criticism. Over the years he got it!

I am not saying that all traditions are no good; but I have found that when you hear the word "tradition" or "traditional" you need to check it out "real good." As the Bible states "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good"

The site Ron proclaimed to be the remains of Noah's Ark is not on Mount Ararat. It is on the mountain next to Ararat.

Now, traditional teaching says that Noah's Ark landed on Mt. Ararat; but when I began to check things out, I found that the Bible does not say that at all. It says that Noah's Ark landed upon the mountains of Ararat; mountains plural. In the Hebrew text, it literally says the mountains of Urartu: that whole mountainous region of Eastern Turkey.

When I began to check things out, I found out that Mt. Ararat is a 17,000 foot volcano which has erupted less than 200 years ago. I also found out that where most people have been looking for Noah's Ark, on Mt. Ararat, is in the Ohura Gorge, a vast area that "blew out" during the eruption.

I found out that Mt. Ararat has a glacier on top of it that replaces itself (flows down the mountain) every 500 years or less. Even so, people look for Noah's Ark in the ice.

What is left of Noah's Ark is not what Hollywood would like to portray. I had seen television shows depicting people climbing ladders to the top of the Ark which looked like, as one might say, "it just came off the showroom floor." We have been programmed to believe that, if it is on TV, it must be true.

The television show, that I had seen, had people climbing around on Noah's Ark in the ice and snow on Mt. Ararat. They also said that they had found petrified wood there. It was very convincing; but I later found out that the person claiming to have been there had never even been to Turkey. He was a paid actor who had taken wood, soaked it in juice, and baked it in an oven to make it look old.

By the way, I no longer watch TV.

On the other hand, Ron took me to Turkey and showed me something that you could look at, and touch. What I saw looked like the remains of a giant ship. What Ron was talking about was really there!

He showed me a "boat shaped object" composed of material containing organic carbon, which is what is found in petrified wood. He pointed out metal fittings, which contain modern day alloys. He showed me what appear to be vertical and horizontal deck support timbers, rib timbers and other features that are evenly spaced.

The Bible tells us that Noah's Ark was 300 cubits in length. I measured it myself. What Ron said was Noah’s Ark was 300 cubits long.

Now, there are people who say that there is absolutely no evidence that would support the claim by Ron Wyatt that this could possibly be the remains of Noah's Ark. I believe that after you study the pages of this web site you will have a different opinion.

Many damaging things have been said about Ron, which, through first hand knowledge, I know to be totally false. Authors have spent pages trying to disprove his findings and speakers without any evidence of their own go to great lengths to discredit him. Most of these people have never taken the time to check out the things they are talking about! Ron's response "Well bless their heart. If I hadn't seen these things for myself I would be a skeptic too."

Ron Wyatt said that "boat shaped object" was Noah's Ark. The Turkish Government and their scientists agree. They have declared the site to be the remains of Noah's Ark. They have declared it a National Park and a National Treasure. The site is now on the Turkish map as Nuhun Gemesi, Noah's big Boat. A visitors center has been built at the site and full time security is maintained there.

Can anyone honestly believe that there is absolutely no evidence? You be the judge.
.....................read more here:
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/ron-wyatt.htm
sharon
Has anybody seen the Ark, backed into a cave on Mt. Ararat.... from Google Earth?
When my daughter was serving in Iraq, I got onto the program to see Balad, where she was based. As I explored on this wonderful program, I went up to Ararat, near the border of Georgia.
The colors in the mountain are gorgeous, and I looked at the snow cap where some scientists have believed may be the "hulk of a large vessel." However, I don't see how even a fourth of the humans and animals could have survived decending those steep peaks at the top of the mountain. As I explored the lower part of the mountain, I noticed what looked like a "face" sitting in a cave near the 10,000 foot elevation mark. This face was a bright honey color, totally set apart from anything else on the mountain. It could have been a large ship with windows at the top making it look like a pair of eyes, but it seemed to be backed into a cave.
Over the cave, is the perfect form a "serpent" (the Bible symbol for sin and the reason the ark existed to begin with) with two, perpendicular white stripes running along it's sides. The face is perfectly formed and even has a tongue. This serpent juts out of the side of the mountain and curves around the top of the cave containing the "face". The serpent face is asymetrical and almost looks like a mammal, rather than a reptile. Before the fall in the garden, the sepent had apparently had legs, and then had to crawl on it's belly as part of "the curse".
Under this cave, are two huge scoops that almost look like giant seashells from far away. It almost looks like God carved out a couple of mud slides so that people and animals could safely slide off of the mountain.
I would love to hear from anybody else that has seen this. I haven't heard it mentioned anywhere, so I don't know if anyone else has happened to find it.
Dan
QUOTE (sharon @ May 9 2008, 11:09 AM) *
Has anybody seen the Ark, backed into a cave on Mt. Ararat.... from Google Earth?
When my daughter was serving in Iraq, I got onto the program to see Balad, where she was based. As I explored on this wonderful program, I went up to Ararat, near the border of Georgia.
The colors in the mountain are gorgeous, and I looked at the snow cap where some scientists have believed may be the "hulk of a large vessel." However, I don't see how even a fourth of the humans and animals could have survived decending those steep peaks at the top of the mountain. As I explored the lower part of the mountain, I noticed what looked like a "face" sitting in a cave near the 10,000 foot elevation mark. This face was a bright honey color, totally set apart from anything else on the mountain. It could have been a large ship with windows at the top making it look like a pair of eyes, but it seemed to be backed into a cave.
Over the cave, is the perfect form a "serpent" (the Bible symbol for sin and the reason the ark existed to begin with) with two, perpendicular white stripes running along it's sides. The face is perfectly formed and even has a tongue. This serpent juts out of the side of the mountain and curves around the top of the cave containing the "face". The serpent face is asymetrical and almost looks like a mammal, rather than a reptile. Before the fall in the garden, the sepent had apparently had legs, and then had to crawl on it's belly as part of "the curse".
Under this cave, are two huge scoops that almost look like giant seashells from far away. It almost looks like God carved out a couple of mud slides so that people and animals could safely slide off of the mountain.
I would love to hear from anybody else that has seen this. I haven't heard it mentioned anywhere, so I don't know if anyone else has happened to find it.



Do you have a link to that program or web site? I would like to look at it.





Dan
QUOTE (snorch @ Jun 11 2008, 03:58 AM) *
QUOTE (sharon @ May 9 2008, 11:09 AM) *
Has anybody seen the Ark, backed into a cave on Mt. Ararat.... from Google Earth?
When my daughter was serving in Iraq, I got onto the program to see Balad, where she was based. As I explored on this wonderful program, I went up to Ararat, near the border of Georgia.
The colors in the mountain are gorgeous, and I looked at the snow cap where some scientists have believed may be the "hulk of a large vessel." However, I don't see how even a fourth of the humans and animals could have survived decending those steep peaks at the top of the mountain. As I explored the lower part of the mountain, I noticed what looked like a "face" sitting in a cave near the 10,000 foot elevation mark. This face was a bright honey color, totally set apart from anything else on the mountain. It could have been a large ship with windows at the top making it look like a pair of eyes, but it seemed to be backed into a cave.
Over the cave, is the perfect form a "serpent" (the Bible symbol for sin and the reason the ark existed to begin with) with two, perpendicular white stripes running along it's sides. The face is perfectly formed and even has a tongue. This serpent juts out of the side of the mountain and curves around the top of the cave containing the "face". The serpent face is asymetrical and almost looks like a mammal, rather than a reptile. Before the fall in the garden, the sepent had apparently had legs, and then had to crawl on it's belly as part of "the curse".
Under this cave, are two huge scoops that almost look like giant seashells from far away. It almost looks like God carved out a couple of mud slides so that people and animals could safely slide off of the mountain.
I would love to hear from anybody else that has seen this. I haven't heard it mentioned anywhere, so I don't know if anyone else has happened to find it.



Do you have a link to that program or web site? I would like to look at it.

Yes no maybe so?
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