Al Gore would be proud. And most likely, knows something about this. If not he's not the 'Greenie' we all thought our Nobel prize winner claims to be!

The need for more energy is always present. Growing economies and populations need more energy to do the things they do. Petroleum, coal, nuclear and hydro-generated forms are the most popular. However, this is a new initiative. It is a plan from the boys (and girls) at the Club of Rome, of which the proud Prince of Jordan is honorary 'President for life'.

On November 27, 2007, Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordon, who I think is about to burst upon the world scene in a big way, submitted a plan to the EU parliment. There is a project, though, that the TREC people want to accomplish in the Gaza strip! Interesting! Here is an excerpt from the white paper on that:

1. Gaza Solar Power and Water Project (PDF): To build CSP plants for the combined generation of electricity (1 GW in total) and desalination of sea water. These plants, part of a potential international recovery programme for Gaza, could be located in the Egyptian Sinai coastal region. With the provision of appropriate water and power lines into the Gaza strip, these facilities could provide supplies for 2-3 Million people. This project could mark a turning point in the currently disastrous social and economic development of Gaza, in the regional conflicts for water and in the stalled peace process between Israel and Palestine. The total investment required would be about 5 billion Euros.

So how about that? Peace and security through water and power?

Here is an article that tells you all about it:

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Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan Presents White Paper to European Parliament
Submitted by Newswire on 27 November 2007 - 9:30am.

HAMBURG, Germany, November 27 /PRNewswire/ --

- German Association CLUB OF ROME: Clean Power From Deserts for Europe, the Middle East and North Africa

HAMBURG, Germany, November 27 /PRNewswire/ --

Former President of The Club of Rome, His Royal Highness Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan, will present the White Paper "Clean Power from Deserts - The DESERTEC Concept for Energy, Water and Climate Security" to members of the European Parliament and hand it over to its President, Prof. Pottering, in Brussels on November 28.

The paper describes the vast potentials of deserts to supply secure, clean and cheap power to Europe, the Middle East and North Africa (EU-MENA). The authors of the White Paper are proposing a solar co-operation between the technology belt and the sun-belt, between Europe and the MENA region, to fight climate change "in a way that is economically, technically and politically feasible".

"We are in the middle of a defence situation against energy shortage, water scarcity and climate change! We need a defence and recovery strategy, defence and recovery measures, and a defence and recovery budget!", says Dr. Gerhard Knies, coordinator of the international Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation (TREC) network which developed the DESERTEC Concept in collaboration with scientists at the German Aerospace Center.



To resolve these problems The Club of Rome presents an international action plan. It foresees seven immediate measures to be implemented within seven years. The Club of Rome demands a budget 10 billion Euro for an Apollo-Program like effort to implement the DESERTEC Concept.

Key technologies in the DESERTEC Concept are concentrating solar thermal power plants with solar heat storage for day/night operation and low-loss high voltage direct current transmission lines to bring clean power to Europe from the deserts of MENA.

The presentation in the European Parliament is staged by a cross-party group of four Members of the European Parliament - Matthias Groote, Rebecca Harms, Vittorio Prodi and Anders Wijkman - and by the Club of Rome initiative TREC.

As of November 29th the White Paper and the Action Plan will be available as a PDF file at: http://www.DESERTEC.org

Information for Pressmen:

Further information and pictures:

http://www.DESERTEC.org/press.html

Concentrating Solar Thermal Power (CSP) plants use mirrors to concentrate sunlight and create heat which is used to raise steam to drive steam turbines and electricity generators. Excess heat from additional collectors can be stored in tanks of molten salt and used to power steam turbines during the night or when there is a peak in demand.

Pictures:

SCHOTT AG, https://www.schott-pictures.net/

Solar Millennium AG, presse@solarmillennium.de

Euro-Supergrid with a EU-MENA-Connection:

Sketch of possible infrastructure for a sustainable supply of power to EUrope, the Middle East and North Africa (EU-MENA)

Picture: TREC, http://www.DESERTEC.org/press.html

Preliminary PDF versions of the White Paper and the Action Plan:

Michael Straub, DESERTEC Office Manager, Mobile: +49(0)179-90-46-859, Michael.Straub@ClubOfRome.de.


Press statements by the President of the European Parliament Prof. Hans-Gert Pottering and by His Royal Highness Prince Hassan bin Talal:

November 28th, circa 12:00 - 12:30, European Parliament, Brussels, near Room PHS11B

Presentation:

November 28th, 13:00 - 15:00, European Parliament, Brussels, Room A5G3

Interviews:

November 28th, 15:00 - 16:00, European Parliament, Brussels, near Room A5G3

Please confirm your participation to rebecca.harms@europarl.europa.eu (if you are not accredited to the Parliament, please also send your name, date of birth and place of residence).

Preliminary PDF versions of the White Paper and the Action Plan: Michael Straub, DESERTEC Office Manager, Mobile: +49(0)179-90-46-859, Michael.Straub@ClubOfRome.de. Please confirm your participation to rebecca.harms@europarl.europa.eu (if you are not accredited to the Parliament, please also send your name, date of birth and place of residence).

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You can find the web site for the project at http://www.desertec.org/. Notice at the top of the page that it says it is an initiative from the Club of Rome. I will say it now that Prince Talal will be the next Nobel recipient when this thing gets off the ground. Al Gore's reciept of the prize paved the way, because the TREC project uses solar, geo-thermal, hydro and biomass energy conversion to generate power, and then transmit it via high voltage direct current transmission lines.

This is all about Global Warming, people. The new religion, the new future for mankind. This project seeks to build a 'community' that will jump start the 'de-carbonisation' of the world. This is thought to help control the climate change the earth is going through. Never mind the fact that creation is having 'labor pains' as Paul wrote in Romans 8:

Ro 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Ro 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.
Ro 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;
Ro 8:21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Ro 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

Please read about this initiative from the folllowing link: http://www.desertec.org/downloads/articles...white_paper.pdf

It describes the immediacy of the project, and why 10 Billion euros are needed right now.

Here is a link to the action plan, and the description of the Seven year plan:
http://www.desertec.org/downloads/articles...llo_program.pdf

Here is a quote towards the end of the white paper:

Humankind has mastered to reach the
Moon. Now it has everything for a programme
to master the energy and climate
crises on Earth. – Let’s do it!

And don't overlook the seven step plan that will take seven years, up and running by 2015 in Jordan and the European states.!

Tower of Babel all over again it seems.....

Blessings of peace and comofrt from JESUS CHRIST, the KING OF GLORY!

gr82bsaved

Wow Todd... this is really interesting. I am not sure if you remember but back in April of 2006 I started a thread on this guy. I had watched a DVD and was amazed at the decoration this man held.


What a project that this would be! The scope of that plan is truly enormous! What I find interesting... is that the very day that the Peace Conference was taking place in Annapolis.... was the day that he submitted this plan to the EU!

This is the very man that to my knowledge authored the Oslo agreement! Here is the link to the thread that I started about 9 months ago.... attached is my 1st post from that Link.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...pic=5449&hl=


Your Friend In Christ,
Valeire

Messiahiscoming

Dang, Val!

His bio from his own webpage is as follows:

CHECK OUT HOW MANY DEGREES THIS GUY HAS!!! And THEN the organizations... woooooah nelly.

http://elhassan.org/reg/personal/ebio2.html

HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS PRINCE EL HASSAN BIN TALAL

His Royal Highness Prince El Hassan bin Talal was born in Amman, on 20th March 1947, to a branch of the Hashemite family directly descended from the Prophet Muhammad, in the forty-second generation of descendants. His Royal Highness is the youngest son of Their late Majesties King Talal and Queen Zein El Sharaf, and is the brother of His late Majesty King Hussein.

His Royal Highness was officially invested as Crown Prince to the Hashemite Throne of Jordan, in April 1965. Until the changes in succession brought about by His late Majesty King Hussein, in January 1999, he served as the King’s closest political advisor, confidant and deputy, as well as acting as Regent in the King’s absence from the country.

Prince Hassan had his early schooling in Amman, largely through private tuition, then attended the English preparatory school, Summer Fields. In 1963, HRH went to Harrow School, where he was in Park House, and then matriculated to Christ Church College, Oxford. HRH graduated from Oxford with a B.A. (Hons.) in Oriental Studies, followed by an M.A.

Prince Hassan has also been awarded the Honorary Degree of Science, Bošziçi University, Turkey (1981); Honorary Degree of Doctor of Civil Law, University of Durham, U.K. (1990); Honorary Degree of Doctor of Humane Letters, Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies, Chicago, U.S.A (1995); Honorary Degree of Doctor of Letters, University of Ulster, Northern Ireland (1996); Honorary Doctorate from Moscow State Institute for International Relations, Russia (1997); Doctorate of Laws, University of Birmingham, U.K. (1999); Honorary Doctorate from Bilkent University, Turkey (1999); Honorary Degree of Doctor of Laws (Hon LLB) from the University of Hertfordshire, U.K. (2000); Honorary Doctorate of Theology from the Faculty of Catholic Theology at the Eberhard-Karls-University, Tübingen, Germany (2001); Honorary Doctorate of Humane Letters, University of Oklahoma, U.S.A. (2002); Honorary Doctorate, University of York, U.K. (2002); Honorary Doctorate of Laws, University of Portsmouth, U.K. (2002); Honorary Doctorate of Laws from the International Islamic University of Islamabad, Pakistan (2005); Degree of LLD Honoris Causa from the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) at the University of London, U.K. (2005); Honorary Degree and the Medal of the World Academy from Old Dominion University, Norfolk, U.S.A (2005); Doctorate Honoris Causa from the Candido Mendes University (UCAM), Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (2006); Doctorate Honoris Causa from the Institute of Higher Education of Brasilia (IESB), Brazil (2006); Doctorate Honoris Causa from the Faculdades Metropolitanas Unidas (FMU), Saõ Paulo, Brazil (2006); Honorary Degree in Human Letters from Brandeis University, Boston, U.S.A; Honorary Degree from Soka University, Tokyo, Japan (2006).

Prince Hassan received the Abu Bakr Al-Siddique Medal of the Organisation of Arab Red Crescent and Red Cross Societies, in September 1996, and the 1995 Science and Society Prize in Madrid, in 1997. In April 2001, HRH received the inaugural Gandhi/King/Ikeda Community Builders Medal and Torch of Nonviolence, at the Martin Luther King, Jr. International Chapel, during Morehouse College's International Reconciliation Sunday. HRH was awarded the Distinguished Foreign Visitor Award at the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation in Boston, in April 2002, and in June 2003, HRH received the 2003 Rabbi Marc H. Tanenbaum Award for the Advancement of Interreligious Understanding. In January 2004, Prince Hassan received the Abraham Fund Pioneer of Co-existence Award (New York) and, in October of the same year, HRH was awarded the Grand Decoration of Honour in Gold with Sash (1st Class), for his services to the Republic of Austria. On 13th February, 2006 HRH was appointed Ambassador of the International Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (ISESCO). In November 2006, the Berlin Committee for UNESCO nominated Prince Hassan as the 2006 laureate for the Berlin Peace Clock Award, in recognition of HRH’s exemplary contribution to overcoming human divides, on the basis of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Decorated by over twenty nations, His Royal Highness is the holder of the Order of Al Hussein bin Ali, Jordan’s highest decoration, which HRH was awarded in March, 1987, by His late Majesty King Hussein. HRH also held the rank of Honorary General in the Jordanian Armed Forces.

Prince Hassan has initiated, founded and is actively involved in a number of Jordanian and international institutes and committees. In Jordan, HRH established:

· The Royal Scientific Society, in 1970;

· The Arab Thought Forum, in 1981;

· The Higher Council for Science and Technology, in 1987;

· The Royal Institute for Inter-Faith Studies, in 1994.

Prince Hassan chaired the committees overseeing the first development plan (1973-1975) and the three subsequent development plans (1976–1980, 1981–1985 and 1986–1990). HRH also established the annual Bilad Al-Sham Conference, in 1978, the Al al-Bait Foundation, in 1980, the Islamic Scientific Academy, the triannual conferences on the History and Archaeology of Jordan, the Hashemite Aid and Relief Agency, the Centre for Educational Development, the Institute for Diplomacy and the Al al-Bait University in Mafraq.

Having always been interested in young people, and believing in the importance of their community, His Royal Highness founded the Forum Humanum, in 1982 (renamed the Arab Youth Forum, in 1988); the Crown Prince Award, in 1984 (renamed the El Hassan Youth Award, in 1999), and its affiliate programme, the Sabilat El Hassan, in 1988.

On the international stage, many of Prince Hassan’s ideas and initiatives have been catalytic to international decisions and resolutions. Addressing the 36th Session of the United Nations in 1981, His Royal Highness proposed the establishment of the New International Humanitarian Order, which led to a request by the Secretary General to found and co-chair the Independent Commission on International Humanitarian Issues (ICIHI). The final report of the Commission was adopted as a resolution at the 42nd General Assembly of the United Nations. In July 2002, Prince Hassan founded the International Cultures Foundation with Professor Ihsan Doğramaci, Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Bilkent University in Ankara. The Parliament of Cultures was then formed in 2004, to fulfil this agenda of promoting understanding among different cultures and enhancing dialogue between their thinkers and intellectuals. In July 2003, HRH launched Partners in Humanity as a joint initiative with John Marks from Search for Common Ground (SFCG), which aims to improve understanding, build positive relationships and promote dialogue between the Muslim and western worlds.

As result of three ongoing consultations with the Orthodox Centre of the Ecumenical Patriarchate at Chambesy, Switzerland, the Pontifical Council for Inter-religious dialogue at the Vatican and the Independent Commission on Christian-Muslim-Jewish Relations through the aegis of the Deanery of Windsor, U.K., the Foundation for Interreligious and Intercultural Research and Dialogue (FIIRD) was established, with Prince Hassan as Co-founder and Board Member.

Prince Hassan chairs and is a member of a number of international committees and organisations. These include:

President of the Club of Rome (1999 – present);

Chairman of the Independent Bureau for Humanitarian Issues;

Chairman of the Board for the Center for Peace Studies and Conflict Resolution at the University of Oklahoma International Programs Center;

Co-president of the International Tolerance Foundation for Humanities and Social Studies, St. Petersburg (since 2006);

International Patron of Rights and Humanity;

Commissioner of the Weapons of Mass Destruction Commission (WMDC);

Member of the Board of Directors of the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), Washington, D.C. (since 2002);

Member of the Trilateral Commission;

Member of the International Advisory Board of Forum 2000;

Member of the International Board of the Council on Foreign Relations; Member of the Committee of Notables of the Institut Català de la Mediterrània (since 2001).

In June 2003, following the U.N. General Assembly resolution 56/266, HRH was elected as one of five regional experts in the Independent Eminent Experts group, appointed by the Secretary-General of the United Nations, to implement the Declaration and Programme of Action of the World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance that took place in Durban, South Africa, in 2001.

In November 1999, at the Seventh World Assembly of the World Conference of Religions for Peace (WCRP), held in Amman, Prince Hassan accepted the position of Moderator of the WCRP, until the Eighth World Assembly, in 2006. HRH remains an active member.

HRH served as Chairman of the Policy Advisory Commission for the World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO) from 1999–2002 and was a Member of the Board of the South Centre (2001–2006), the Committee of UNESCO International Interreligious Advisory Committee and an Honorary Member of UNESCO World Commission on Culture and Development. HRH was also a Member of the Informal Advisory Group to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and a Member of the Executive Committee and Trustee of the International Crisis Group.

His Royal Highness is a prolific contributor to newspapers, journals, magazines and periodicals, as well as specific publications on regional and international issues. Prince Hassan is also the author of seven books:

A Study on Jerusalem (1979) (English);

Palestinian Self-Determination (1981) (English, Arabic);

Search for Peace (1984) (English, Arabic);

Christianity in the Arab World (1994) (English, Arabic, French, Greek, Spanish, Russian, German, Swedish);

Essere Musulmano – Co-authored with Alain Elkann – (2001) (Italian, French, Spanish) To Be A Muslim (English – released 2003);

Continuity, Innovation and Change: Selected Essays (2001);

In Memory of Faisal I: The Iraqi Question (2003) (Arabic).

Prince Hassan actively promotes sports within Jordan and beyond. As President of the Federations for Martial Arts, Polo and Squash, HRH has overseen the development of these three activities to the competitive international level. In addition to holding a 7th Dan Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do and captaining the Royal Jordanian Polo Team, HRH enjoys skiing, hiking, mountaineering, scuba diving, swimming and water-skiing. HRH is a qualified helicopter pilot, and has several parachute jumps to his name.

Prince Hassan is fluent in Arabic, English and French, and studied Biblical Hebrew as part of his degree course. HRH also has a working knowledge of German, Spanish and Turkish. Among Prince Hassan’s interests are reading, cinema and Latin American and Flamenco music. Above all, His Royal Highness derives the most pleasure from spending time with his family.

His Royal Highness married Her Royal Highness Princess Sarvath, in 1968. Princess Sarvath comes from a distinguished family of the Indian-subcontinent. They are blessed with three daughters: Princesses Rahma, Sumaya and Badiya, and a son, Prince Rashid; and with six grandchildren: the twins Tariq and Zein El Sharaf, Ali, Sukayna, Aisha and Aref.

Last updated on 30th November, 2006

Hi Messiahiscoming!

No, I did not remember that link. I have a bad habit of not checking to see if a topic has already been started! Yikes! But anyway, I greatly appreciate the info you provided. I had seen a bit of a half hour show that featured VanKoevering, and I thought it was interesting that he claimed that bin Talal was in his estimation the ac. I had to check that out since he was so ardent about it, and since he was challenging anyone to dispute what he claimed were facts.

So I started digging around as well. I found the very same info he mentioned, including the little gem that I posted last night about the TREC project. I also came across a bible verse that I believe may be prophetic in near term events.
It is Isaiah 19:23-25:
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Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian will come into Egypt and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians will serve with the Assyrians.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria- a blessing in the midst of the land,
Isa 19:25 whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance."
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The reason I mention this - and I may be completely wrong about it but it stood out to me and usually that means the LORD wants me to pay attention - is the use of the name Assyria. Here's a little history lesson about Assyria. In the early 1900's, Assyria was called Trans-Jordan. Its borders included modern day Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and the land of Palestine. The prince talked about how Transjordan had been split apart by the British in 1917(?), and seemed to lament that happening in a speech he gave in 2003. It seems to me that he may propose a solution for the Israeli-Paliestinian crises that includes allowing Jordan to extend it's borders up to the east bank of the Jordon River, effectively swallowing up the Palestinians who, in the words of his own father the deceased King Abdullah, belong in the kingdom of Jordan. Arafat tried to take over the Kingdom in the 1970's and was repelled by King Abdullah. Jordan pushed Arafat and his thugs into Lebanon, where they created havoc for twelve years. Now that Arafat is gone, I wonder if the doors will open again to the Palestinians? Stranger things have happened. So what if Prince Talal also managed to pull Iraq, Jordan and Syria back together again? Then there would be three countries again (as mentioned in the verses from Isaiah above) - "Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance." Right now, that does not exist. So I just wonder about this. It would also allow the army of the ac to come through Jordan without any trouble at all. A country the size of a ressurected Assyria could hold a pretty big army, and with the money and power and prestige the TREC project could generate, it would seem as though Transjordon/Assyria was just protecting itself from the other countries that were jealous, such as the Saudi's.

All conjecture on my part, and probably so full of holes you could drive a 200 million man army through it....

Blessings to you of love and peace from JESUS CHRIST!

gr82bsaved

Oh well then at least he is a .................. I mean, he just so well studied

Apparently, it pays to have "PRINCE" beside your name in order to be selected by a university. lol! Wonder if he recycled speeches after the first few degrees. I mean, after 10 wouldn't it get boring?

Wonder how many honorary docs someone like Billy Graham has gotten. Hmm.... let me see:

Whitworth College, honorary doctorate
Toccoa Falls College, honorary doctorate
LeTourneau University, honorary doctorate
Lees McRae College, honorary doctorate
National University, honorary doctorate
Liberty University, honorary doctorate

15 to 6. Wonder what our guy will have when he is Billy's age.

Well I find what your saying to be pretty fascinating myself. It makes a whole lot of sense to me. I just know one thing.... Like I said back last year he was someone we needed to watch. Julie.. you are right... I cannot imagine someone that honored!

One of the things that Scott and I talked about was the fact that He had ties to Christians.. Judism... and Muslims.




Here is the quote that Scott had postedon the thread ....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3090224.stm



Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

Oh, yes. You and my brother DID have a conversation about this dude. Scott has watched him awhile.

I am so glad I stumbled apon this forum....concerning HRH Prince Hassan bin Talal. Joe VanKovering was pastor and my daughter is married into his family, I have been following the The International Bible Prophesy conference for 10 + years.

As just an interesting side note to the comments about the HRH Prince Hassan bin Talal topic..... and forgive me if you've mentioned it previously but when i was at his site i noted that:

*HRH Prince Hassan bin Talal was born (March 20, 1947) the same year Israel was being born
(November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab sectors)

* Pope Benedict XVI, a co-Founder and former Board of Trustees Member of Foundation for Interreligious and Intercultural Research and Dialogue -His Royal Highness Prince El Hassan Bin Talal of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (Founder & First Vice-Chairman)

and as mentioned before
*HRH Prince Hassan bin Talal- current member and former President of the Club of Rome.

Could we be seeing the alignment of the A/C and the Religious leader? Just a thought.