Thought we should start a string of posts on the StRaNgE weather .


A TORNADO IN ................????ALASKA????

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/6777179p-6666328c.html


Tornado spotted near Sand Point is apparently a first
CAPTURED: Twister was photographed touching nearby peaks.

By DAN JOLING
The Associated Press

Published: August 3rd, 2005
Last Modified: August 3rd, 2005 at 04:49 AM


Residents of Sand Point witnessed a weather phenomenon that elders say is a first-time occurrence.


They looked across Popof Strait to nearby Unga Island last week and watched a tornado touch two uninhabited mountains.

"You could see the clouds twisting and debris spinning off of it," said Jaclynne Larsen, 30, a teacher at King Cove who returns to her hometown each summer.

Sand Point, population 908, is on Popof Island, one of a dozen or so Shumagin Islands 570 miles southwest of Anchorage near the tip of the Alaska Peninsula and the start of the Aleutian chain.

Larsen was at home with her mother when a friend, Dwain Foster, alerted them to the funnel cloud. He ran up their stairs and told them to grab their cameras.

Sam Albanese, warning coordination meteorologist for the National Weather Service in Anchorage, confirmed that the funnel cloud was a tornado after talking to residents and seeing photographs. Tornados originate in clouds accompanying severe thunderstorms and touch the ground, unlike water spouts and dust devils, which originate from Earth's surface.

"It's very rare for the Alaska Peninsula," Albanese said.

One reason for the small number of reports of tornados in Alaska is the size of the state and the small population, he said.

"If it has happened, it probably wasn't observed," he said. "We don't really have the means to observe this."

Tornados start in severe thunderstorms, but the National Weather Service's system for detecting lightning strikes does not extend to the area near Sand Point. It's the same story for Weather Service radar, which can alert observers to tornados.

Larsen ran outside with her camera, looked to the southwest and saw the tornado.

"It lifted off one mountain and touched down again on another mountain," she said.

She watched for 15 to 20 minutes.

"It just lifted off of that one and dissipated," she said.

Larsen, 30, had never seen a tornado on the islands. Neither has her mother or grandparents, she said.

Susan Shoemaker, a police department dispatcher and wife of the city's public safety director, was in the parking lot of the Alaska Commercial store when she saw the tornado. She had lived in Kentucky and recognized the funnel cloud.

"We all gawked at it for a while," she said.

Larsen and Shoemaker said the temperature was about 60 degrees and winds were calm. Even more unusual for the island's maritime climate, it was humid and muggy.

Larsen, who teaches first and second grade, will be incorporating the tornado into her science lessons.

"I'm saving the pictures for when we do the weather unit," she said.

"It probably won't happen for another 100 years," Shoemaker said.

WOW... WOW.... AND MORE WOW!!!

Last night I had a very difficult time getting to sleep. I was praying about 10 pm and I just had this urgency in my spirit... I felt warfare in the heavens and a shifting.

As I lay there, I also heard the sound of water. At first, it was only a trickle, but after a brief moment, it became a thunder of water. Then, I saw in my spirit a map. It was black and white- I don't know the location. But I remember it was one of those elevation maps... where each circle is higher until you have the tallest point in the middle.... usually where a tall mountain would be. It was a split second picture- but crystal clear.

After this experience, I had this terrible foreboding feeling... very ominous and nothing like I've ever experienced before. I found myself crying out... "More time Lord for America."

It is time to fast and pray.

I'm a Land Surveyor.

We call it a "Contour Map". Or "Topo Map".

topography

Each Contour Line traces all points of equal elevation, such as the 100 foot contour line. All points along that contour are elevation 100 feet above sea level.

dennis manning

Oh great! Thanks for the reminder. That's exactly it... I should know the name actually. I'm quite ashamed to admit I am a geography teacher (haha!!!). It's been awhile- and usually I teach countries and capitals.

I consider the below to be a bit strange to me.........not as strange as what you posted Miche, but very devastating.



The two pictures here of a typhoon's devastation happened on July 22nd, (By Thursday morning, typhoon Haitang had caused an economic loss of 7.22 billion yuan (about 870 million US dollars) to east China's Zhejiang Province).



THIS ONE IS TODAY'S TYPHOON AUG 6th:
Typhoon Matsa batters east China
2005-08-06 01:24:03 XinhuaEnglish



HANGZHOU, Aug. 6(Xinhuanet)-- Typhoon Matsa has been wrecking havoc in east China after its landing at Zhejiang Province early Saturday morning.

In Shanghai, all the flights have been suspended due to strong wind and airports in the city said they would monitor the movement of Matsa closely to make further decisions.

A work shed collapsed in the rainstorms, leaving one worker dead and two injured at a construction site in Shanghai.

Matsa, named after a Laotian fish, has been dumping torrential rain, swelling rivers and flooding the low-lying areas in east China's Zhejiang Province, the provincial meteorological observatory said.

The coastal areas of Zhejiang have been slashed by torrential rain which winds up to 126 kph before and after the typhoon landing.

The reservoirs and rivers in Taizhou, a city in Zhejiang, reported sharp water rise, and some areas along the coast reported water levels above the alarming lines, the provincial observatory said.

In Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang, the street billboards have been either strengthened or temporarily picked off. All the construction sites have suspended operation. Residents living in the low-lying areas have been evacuated.

Local residents have been warned to keep away from the Qiantang River as the typhoon could cause tidal waves in Hangzhou Bay.

Matsa's fringe also slashed Jiangsu Province, bringing rainstorms to cities including Suzhou, Nanjing, Wuxi and Nantong.

Landing of the typhoon occurred at Ganjiang Township in Yuhuan County in Zhejiang at 3:40 a.m Saturday. Enditem

http://english.sina.com/index.html

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INDIA: RECORD RAINFALL IN A SINGLE DAY
Monday, August 1, 2005; Posted: 1:23 a.m. EDT (05:23 GMT)


MUMBAI, India (CNN) -- Nearly a week after record rains fell on Mumbai, the Indian financial center was fighting misery on different fronts as new downpours hindered cleanup efforts.

News services reported that rain was pounding the Mumbai area again on Monday. Authorities said 1,000 people had died in western India.

The city formerly known as Bombay was deluged with 37 inches (940 millimeters) of rain in 24 hours Tuesday -- the most any Indian city has ever received in one day.

As the monsoon rains moved back in Sunday, Mumbai's airport was shut down for a while and flights were redirected to New Delhi.

Parts of the rail network were also shut down, but some service had resumed by Sunday afternoon. In northern Mumbai, waters were rising steadily; in some parts of the city, water levels had already reached 7 feet.

The local government has issued an advisory asking residents to stay inside. Some residents last week died in their cars because the water rose so rapidly, and some residents were also electrocuted because of downed power lines.

Some Mumbai residents have had no water, electricity or garbage pickup since the flooding. Angry residents confronted local officials Sunday, with some of them throwing stones.

Tens of thousands of animal carcasses floated in the flood waters, raising concerns about the possibility of disease.

South of the city, several hundred people died in landslides. Authorities have brought in heavy equipment to excavate, but any hope of finding survivors has waned.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visited Mumbai on Thursday, pledging to dedicate millions of dollars in aid to help residents recover and rebuilt. (Full story)

On Thursday, 22 people, including several children, were killed in a stampede that was prompted by rumors of a collapsed dam from the flooding.

Other rumors were that a tsunami or a super cyclone was coming. Newspapers warned of the threat of waterborne diseases, and hospitals and health centers geared up to distribute free medicines to check any outbreak, the Associated Press reported.

Hundreds of residents in five Mumbai districts raised anti-government slogans and blocked traffic for more than five hours on Saturday to demand an immediate cleanup of the city, AP reported.

"For so many days we have been lifting the bodies of the dead and now we are clearing animals from the roads. Is this our work?" asked a furious Hafeez Irani, his face covered with a handkerchief against the stench.

"The drains are choked. We still have no electricity," said Irani, a construction worker.

Civic leaders pleaded for patience. They claimed equipment and workers to clear roads and drains were being called in from other areas hit by landslides.

CNN's Satinder Bindra contributed to this report.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/08/0...lood/index.html

I live in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada region of the world, and this summer is shaping up to be the hottest on record.

Just looked at jmccanneyscience.com and he has said solar activity and sunspots are very active...watch out!!!!
Time to pray for the sun and solar activities to "be calm".
Please join me in pray for calm

Mark

ZCZC MIATCPAT4 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM IRENE ADVISORY NUMBER 12
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM AST SUN AUG 07 2005

...NINTH TROPICAL STORM OF THE SEASON FORMS IN THE CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...EARLIEST NINTH STORM ON RECORD...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov

WEIRD FISH ACTIVITY...........

http://sun-herald.com/Newsheadline.cfm?hea...413&banner=%201


08/05/05
Strange fish parade seen in Englewood


ENGLEWOOD -- A bizarre freeway of fish swimming by the thousands along the shore of Englewood Beach Thursday morning left crowds of beach-goers agog and marine biologists bewildered.

"I've lived her for 10 years, and I've never seen anything like this. It's incredible," said Bob Ricci of Englewood.

Beach-goers reported that a wide variety of sea creatures came swimming south in a narrow band close to the beach at mid-morning.

Included in the swarm were clouds of shrimp, crab, grouper, snapper, red fish and flounder. They were joined by more usual species, including sea robins, needlefish and eels.

Ten-year Manasota Key resident Nick Neidlinger spotted the commotion from his condominium shortly before 9 a.m.

The fish were moving in a narrow band in about 18 inches of water, he said. They were headed south, and, so far as he could tell, the moving mass of sea life stretched a good mile long.

"We're talking thousands and thousands of them," Neidlinger said. "It was so thick we couldn't walk out."

Some fish washed ashore on the Gulf's small waves, he said. The stranded fish flipped and struggled until they flopped back into the water to rejoin the piscatorial parade south.

"There were blue crabs the size of a dinner plate," Neidlinger said. "You name the species of fish and they were there."

Neidlinger said more than 100 pelicans bombarded the fish, but he saw no sharks or other predators, nor did he detect any signs of red tide.

He said all the species "were swimming amongst each other. They weren't attacking each other."

Neidlinger added, "I have never seen anything like that in my life. This was not a fish kill."

Beach-goers were grabbing crabs and fish as they swam by, Thursday. One observer thought the fish might have been weakened by some sort of toxin -- perhaps red tide -- because they could be scooped up easily by people. The event lasted until late morning, although the parade had thinned out by 11 a.m.

A few scientists contacted Thursday were surprised to hear of the unusual fish behavior in Englewood that morning. It was not typical schooling, they said, because many varied species were involved.

Scientists -- usually by nature and always by training -- are reluctant to speculate about the causes of natural phenomena without the benefit of observation and concrete data. However, they did offer some broad possibilities for what they agreed was a highly unusual event, one they had never encountered before.

It might have been predator avoidance, said one, but that was unlikely since there were no signs of predators and the species were varied.

The Gulf waters have currents that might have swept many fish along in an unusual pattern, one speculated.

Or it could have been caused by red tide that could not be detected by beach-goers.

Dr. Richard Pierce, director of ectotoxicology at the Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota, said he had discussed the occurrence with Dr. Cindy Heil, the director of biotoxin research at the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission in St. Petersburg, after a reporter's phone call Thursday.

"We agree this could be that they were trying to get away from red tide, maybe offshore or in the deeper parts offshore," Pierce said.

He said red tide flows in higher or lower concentrations at various levels of the Gulf. It also follows currents, which move at varying levels and speeds.

"Sometimes, we have found it in higher concentration along the bottom. This could be what you're looking at," Pierce said.

Red tide has been lingering in the Gulf for the past couple of months, but it has been detected primarily in an area stretching from northern Sarasota County north to Hernando County.

It's possible, Pierce said, that a stealth red tide could be moving south, flowing with an offshore current along the bottom, "and they're moving ahead of it."

Key to that theory is that the fish reported Thursday included many bottom feeders. "Sea robins, flounder, grouper are indications that something is moving along the bottom," Pierce said.

"Unfortunately, this might be a phenomenon of red tide creeping in, but we'll have to wait until we get some samples," he said.

Mote recently installed two red tide detectors in Boca Grande, and Pierce said there was some indication Thursday that red tide might have been moving in that direction.

But, he added, it was all simply speculation until tests could be conducted.

"We just don't know what's happening," he said. "That's a lot of maybes and what-ifs. I know the state is working on that and some other reports, so maybe by next week we'll have some answers."

I too felt a very very strong conviction to get on my knees and pray quit suddenly. I didn't know what to pray for so I prayed that my purpose that God put me on Earth for will be fullfilled very soon....I still feel this incredible urgency....

I just found this site. I've reviewed quite a number of them but this one seems quite sound. I too have been feeling a strange sense of urgency. I was unsure if I was being overly paranoid, or if what I have been feeling is because of all the strange signs we are seeing.

Being a long-time prophesy watcher and studier, I get excited when I see things happening around me that were recorded so many years ago. But lately the sense of urgency seems to mount daily. My wife does not have that background and talk of the "end times" upsets her, as it does many Christians I think. That's a shame really. To see God's hand at work is an exciting thing. I hope that discussion is encouraged here because I need the outlet, and to know that I am not alone in what I feel or "sense".

Kable

I'm so out of the loop on the weather because we're moving. But the fish activity does seem strange.

I can never tell with cats as mine are strange anywy but they've been bouncing off the wall lately. Maybe they know we're moving. Cats don't move well.

QUOTE(kable @ Aug 8 2005, 01:18 PM)

I just found this site. I've reviewed quite a number of them but this one seems quite sound. I too have been feeling a strange sense of urgency. I was unsure if I was being overly paranoid, or if what I have been feeling is because of all the strange signs we are seeing.

Being a long-time prophesy watcher and studier, I get excited when I see things happening around me that were recorded so many years ago. But lately the sense of urgency seems to mount daily. My wife does not have that background and talk of the "end times" upsets her, as it does many Christians I think. That's a shame really. To see God's hand at work is an exciting thing. I hope that discussion is encouraged here because I need the outlet, and to know that I am not alone in what I feel or "sense".

Kable
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Hello Kable,

You are not alone in feeling like this. I have been extremely exited here lately myself. Almost uncontrolabley the last couple of months. When I try to share my excitement with my wife, she seems to get uneasy. I think she's somewhat scared of the events to come. All I can do is try to build her faith with the Word of God. She is starting to come around to where I can talk to her more of the end times.

I have had something deep within my spirit the last couple of days that led me to increase in giving to Missionaries. I didn't know of any organizations out there so I did some searching on the web. I found an organization, but I was wondering if someone on this forum could recommend one.

God Bless
Jwlewis

http://www.canada.com/health/story.html?id...0c-466f8268813f



Summer of 2005 provides new grist for debate on climate change

Dennis Bueckert
Canadian Press


Tuesday, August 09, 2005


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OTTAWA (CP) - From Toronto to Hans Island, the summer of 2005 is providing new material for the debate on climate change.

Much of Central Canada has been sweating through a heat wave that is setting new records and stressing the electric power system to the breaking point.

As of Monday, Toronto had sweated through 39 days with temperatures above 30 C, roughly three times the 30-year average for the whole summer, according to Statistics Canada.

"In many ways it is a preview, a dress rehearsal, of what we may see more often," says Environment Canada climatologist David Phillips, referring to projections of the greenhouse effect.

Although the heat has been most intense in southern Ontario, temperatures have been above average across much of Canada.

Montreal had 22 days above 30 C, compared with an average of seven or eight. Winnipeg had 16 hot days, compared with an average of 13 for an entire summer.

Then there's the smog, which is in large part a function of the heat.

So far this summer Ontario Ministry of the Environment has recorded a record-setting 45 days with smog above health limits, with smog advisories as far north as Sault Ste. Marie.

"It's often tied to the heat," said David Yap, a scientist at the ministry.

With the higher temperatures there is more evaporation of chemicals from gasoline and chemicals and even from trees. The chemical reactions that cause ground-level ozone, one of the most toxic elements of smog, are accelerated.

Air conditioning offers comfort but has driven Ontario electricity demand to unprecedented levels, leading to blackouts, brownouts, and the purchase of electricity from other jurisdictions at high prices.

Climatologist Andrew Weaver, at the University of Victoria, says this year's heat wave is just a shadow of life in a greenhouse world.

"The thing to say is, you ain't seen nothing yet. To say this is a glimpse is probably one of the greatest understatements of all time. The projections of what is likely to happen in this century would put events like this as minor."

John Bennett of the Sierra Club says the weather across the Canada - not only the heat wave in Ontario but the droughts, downpours and floods in other regions - are consistent with what computer models predict.

"We may in fact be seeing real changes linked to climate change now but even if this is just some freak weather this is what we have to look forward to in the future."

Then there are the geopolitical issues that global warming is sure to highlight such as sovereignty over the Arctic. There is speculation that this is the reason for the Danes' sudden interest in Hans Island, between Greenland and Canada.

Experts have been warning for years that Canada's sovereignty over the passage is likely to be challenged as the ice melts. The Northwest Passage route from Tokyo to London would be 40 per cent shorter than that using the Panama Canal.

bad weather everywhere...and will continue to intensify.

but if you will go out early tomorrow. (early Friday the 12th) that is tonight folks, before dawn, around or before 4am EST, and the skies are clear, and you live in north America, you should see the meteors. the "perseids".....they are from the tail of the Swift-Tuttle comet...

here is a link story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/meteoroutbur...edfridaymorning

also check out space.com for a sky map....general area and time...etc.

i had heard about the Leonids, (they arrive in Nov, usually) about 5 years ago, they said they would be really good....so i got up at 4 and looked....and there were just brilliant sreaks of light--awesome to watch....i brought out a blanket, and laid down and just looked up in wonder...it was the best thing i ever saw...i mean faster than i could count them at times....wow! like fireworks....

we watched....after a little bit, i decided to count them, as many as i could...there were so many....in the course of one hour, i counted over 400.


It is a brilliant and delightsome thing to see...
i hope this one will be similar to what was then...(but they said that one was really the best in long long time to come..)

Anyway, the heavens above declare the glory of God.
and the works of his hands the expanse is telling.

I am in awe and wonder over our God.
I hope some of you might watch with me ....
if so, know i'll be sipping coffee with you, and we will watch with wonder and awe at one of the amazing things our Father has created. with joful praise to our heavenly Father.

it makes you think. you cannot help but to smile. i hope we will get to see them. if the weather is clear, then the chances are good for seeing a LOT of "shooting stars."

enjoy!
bz

here ya go, more info on the Perseids! http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/22...erseids2005.htm
(and a sky map too, to help you know where they will seem to originate)

-bz

well, the last two posts i made here on this topic were to be light.
to lift up....to make your heart happy.

but here is some bad news...
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/8/10/112685.html

dead zones were reported around the keys a couple years back like they are describing this....just dead. nothing in a large area..

the fleeing fish of all sorts described in an earlier post...
fish are not stupid. ....

but people seem to be.

we should all be fleeing to the Refuge of God, our Strong Tower.
the Only 'place' of safety.

see Revelation 16:3.

perhaps this is just a fore-warning, for greater than this will come.

but will people take note...?

how much longer?

.."and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah!..."
around 64? times repeated, in the book of Ezekiel.

Yes, the nations will HAVE TO KNOW who the True God is!
and they will bow before His Son.

WYOMING TORNADO KILLED TWO


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8937934/

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/19/wisc...nado/index.html


Is it normal to have tornadoes in WISCONSIN?

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/18aug05/young1.jpg

photo of lightning (the fire of God) in Mojave desert

dennis manning

http://www.worthynews.com/zone.cgi?http://...storm&printer=1

Maybe this isn't exactly wierd but isn't it early for this?

This really jumped out at me because of our friend cherrycookie. Anybody heard from her? Isn't this her part of the planet? I hope I'm wrong and she's not having any problems from this!

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp...0&w=RTR&coview=


Cold snap grips Europe



PARIS/BERLIN (Reuters) - A sudden winter freeze gripped parts of northern Europe on Saturday with heavy snowfalls cutting power, cancelling football matches and spreading air and road traffic chaos.

In Paris, the Eiffel Tower was shut for most of Saturday as ice made its staircases treacherous, while heavy snowfalls meant thousands of people in France and Germany faced plummeting temperatures without electricity.

"We hope power will be restored tonight. Our teams are out there working on it," a spokeswoman for Electricite de France said. Some 7,000 homes out of 17,000 that suffered power failures in France's western Vendee region overnight were still without electricity by nightfall on Saturday, she added.

A quarter of a million people were also without electricity in Germany's most populous state of North-Rhine Westphalia (NRW), authorities there said on Saturday.


Soccer fans in the Belgian city of Liege were disappointed when a keenly awaited clash between Anderlecht and Standard, two giants of the premier division, was postponed because of the cold. A German league match between MSV Duisburg and Cologne was also postponed because of heavy snow.


Air traffic also suffered from the snow and ice. Flights in and out of airports in Paris, Brussels and the north German city of Duesseldorf, the NRW state capital, were all affected.


A Duesseldorf airport spokesman said 36 flights had to be redirected and 25 were canceled. "I have been working at the airport for 11 years and I cannot remember something like this ever happening before," spokesman Torsten Hiermann said.


MOUNTAIN PASSES CLOSED


Brussels airport said it too had experienced cancellations and delays, while a spokesman for France's Aeroports de Paris said 23 flights from Charles de Gaulle airport were grounded.


"It's mostly because of snow on the runways," he said.


The Paris region saw about 5 cm (2 inches) of snow and in northwest France there was up to 10 cm (4 inches). The climatic conditions also threw the northern half of Spain under a bad weather alert, and closed several mountain passes.


Officials said the real danger, however, was extreme cold.


The French government declared a level two state of alert -- decreed when daytime temperatures remain negative and sink to between -5 and -10 C at night -- under its so-called Winter Plan to protect the homeless, for just over a third of the country.


That came after two homeless people died in France during the past 48 hours due to the intense cold.


Traffic snarled across France, with 120 semi-trailers still blocked at midday on the road from the coast to the Breton capital of Rennes in France's northwest. Some 200 semi-trailers had been stuck there earlier in the day.


Heavy snowfall and biting Arctic winds also prompted travel chaos in parts of Britain as people struggled with the cold snap that stranded motorists overnight, caused short-term power cuts and stretched the emergency services.


In southwest England up to 500 people were forced to spend the night in temporary shelters after they were rescued from their vehicles stuck on exposed Bodmin Moor in Cornwall.


By mid-morning on Saturday slightly higher temperatures had triggered a thaw, raising the risk of flash flooding. Britain's Met Office said more snow was forecast for the extreme north, while most of the country will face rain and sleet showers.

I just saw that Dove posted this somewhere else earlier. Oops!

Glad to hear it's not too bad for you guys!!!

It's snowed twice today, it's forecast to get worse over the next week.

Dove-
Please keep us posed so we know you're ok. You ad so much to this forum! Thank you!

lov4all

Thank you lov4all, God bless you.

It's also been really cold today, I've never known it to be this freezing. I can't believe that over the last two weeks it's gone from warm to cold, the Weather as been getting weird has of lately.

I've also had the heating on all week, i wouldn't like to see the bill for that.

It's snowing here again and this time it's worse, It's been a heavy downpour for the last three hours.

Yes I agree,
I live a few minutes from Lake Erie in Ontario Canada
and yesterday we had cold weather with about 5 inches
of snow. Today it is mild and all the snow is gone.

We do get nice weather in these parts a lot of the year, but
this time of year it usually isn't this mild. I could go out in
a sweatshirt or tea shirt and that is very unusual for now.

From one day to the next it can change just like that.
God likes to keep us on our toes.
Lord will I need a winter coat tomorrow or just
a sweater.

In all seriousness I am praying for those with devestating
weather right now. I know it can happen anywhere and I
pray God grants us a hedge of protection against the storms -all kinds of storms

This is the day that the Lord Hath Made.
I shall rejoice and be glad in it.

I'm sorry I meant to say we had 12 inches of snow yesterday and
today it is all gone and just as mild as if spring is coming and not winter.

Wow you guys. The weather here is jumping around 30 degrees or so every few days- - today it was inthe 60s , afew days ago it didn't get out of the 30s I don't think. But its all been manageable.

I hope everyone fares well through all these things: tornadoes, snow storms, etc.

And hey Dove, Here's one for ya....

re:

... we moved into a new house a couple of years ago and the yard was in really bad shape. The gardening bug bit me (I'd never been interested before) but there was no money for landscaping.

So I prayed about it.

Low and behold I ended up meeting several ladies in the neighborhood who provided me with more flowers, shrubs, houseplants, bushes, ... you name it.

Had I bought everything I have now it would have been 100s of dollars! And I have now had the opportunity to share cuttings and bulbs with other neighbors which has in turn opened a door for witnessing.

Anyway, working in the yard has been a tremendous boost for my relationship with the Lord and I praise him for that! And I praise him for such generosity and for teaching me so much about His goodness and power and grace through the garden he provided for me.


(I'm getting to the point but the background info was neccessary. )

Anyway, this past summer was really dry. I mean REALLY dry. Everything was wilting and could just let it die or I could water it myself. Money has been pretty tight around here and the last thing we needed was a higher water bill. I knew I couldn't afford the water it was going to take to keep things fresh and pretty.

So again I prayed about it. And I got the impression that I should just water it and not worry. I felt that he had provided this for me and was using it to his glory in many ways and I should continue to care for it.

In the mean time one lady was giving me even more wonderful thigs to add to my gardens!

So I watered and I watered and I watered. I watered the daylights out of my garden and every now and then a sinking feeling about what was probably going to be a tremendous water bill would begin to creep in and just as quickly I'd give it to the Lord and keep on watering until it was all done.

The point: The water bill came and it was a little less than it was when I hadn't needed to water so extremely much. God took care of it.

Somehow I don't think watering my flowers is as important to him as making sure you stay safe and warm. He promises to provide for our needs.

Even though my flowers aren't a "need", I'm awestruck by his blessings all the same!

Freak snow in Japan

Japan summons troops to dig out after deadly snowfalls
Jan 09 8:45 AM US/Eastern
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Soldiers were called out to help residents clear huge piles of snow in areas by the Sea of Japan after a record-breaking cold spell which has left 70 people dead in recent weeks.

The farming area of Tsunan, around 160 kilometres (100 miles) north of Tokyo, has seen up to 390 centimetres (13 feet) of snow dumped on some locations where cold air from Siberia collided with the mountains.



The bad weather Monday gave way to sunshine and brought some respite, but it also brought fears of avalanches which hampered efforts to clear snow from roads and other areas.

"I haven't seen sunshine like this for weeks. Even if the sun shone briefly before, it was always snowing," said Chieko Baba, a government official in the town of Tsunan.

The official said around 100 soldiers had joined snow clearing operations in the area but they did not venture on to the main highway because of avalanche warnings.

Baba said around 200 houses remain cut off because of the highway's closure and schools in the region would not open until Wednesday because paths to the premises were blocked.

"Farmers usually go to cities for seasonal jobs in the winter but they cannot do so this year. They need to keep removing snow to save their houses," she said.

Kunihiko Yamagishi, a weatherman at the Japan Meteorological Agency, warned that despite Monday's lull more snow was expected. "People must also remain alert for avalanches," he added.

He attributed the heavy snowfalls, which have been blamed for 70 deaths so far, to waves of freezing air, below minus 40 degrees Celsius (minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit), coming from an unusually strong cold air mass over Siberia.

In the latest reported fatalities an 89-year-old man was found dead in a pond in his backyard with a shovel beside his body and a 86-year-old woman died buried in the snow at the back of her house.

Both were believed to have been shovelling snow at the time.

Five others died on Sunday, including a 55-year-old woman who suffocated after snow slid off the roof of her house and buried her. A 55-year-old farmer fell while removing snow from the roof of a warehouse.

A 58-year-old man who went missing several weeks ago was found dead about two meters (seven feet) under the snow at Aomori on the northern tip of Honshu island. His family believed he had gone to work in the city, reports said.

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Japan struck by deadly snowdrifts

Dozens of people have died as a result of the snowfall
Disaster relief teams have been dispatched across Japan after the heaviest snowfall on record, Japanese media is reporting.
At least 61 people have died and more than 1,000 have been injured as a result of the snowfall, which began last month.

In some of the worst-hit areas the snow is more than three metres (10ft) deep.

Some of the victims lost their lives when their homes collapsed under the pressure of the snow.

"It's frightening," an unnamed elderly women in Akita City on the island of Honshu told Japan's TV Asahi. "There were creaking sounds and I couldn't open the doors because of the weight of the snow."

Others died in falls while trying to clear the snow from their roofs.

Kyodo news agency says 14 areas have been affected across Japan.

Niigata and Nagano prefectures, north-west of Tokyo, are among the hardest-hit.

Local authorities and volunteer groups have appealed for members of the public to help elderly people stricken by the snow.

The Japanese meteorological agency said the snow will continue to blanket northern and western Japan and has warned of possible avalanches.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4591950.stm

Yesterday it was 76 outside and the forcast for Tuesday is 70% chance of SNOW! The televison station said what is next. Norm here is snow and snow this time of the year.
Kim

Oh do you and I have common ground. Okay two-we love Jesus and we love to
garden. Oh I love gardening. I am nuts over flowers and landscaping.
I feel this little piece of earth is from God and I am to tend to it. Thank
God the rest of the family thinks it needs tending too, because I don't think I could do it all by myself.

However I guess I can only blame myself because I am the one who keeps putting in more shrubs and flowers. I just mentioned to my husband again the
other day that I can't wait to put my new landscaping idea in -the spring.
Of course he reminded me again, the more you put in the more work it will be.
So I better not complain of being tired all summer. But oh how pretty it looks when
the work is done. How pretty we will look when our work is done here on earth.
God will give us a perfect body. I think He will give us a garden too. What do you think?

Rosie , you and your love for Jesus always cheer me up. You are like a sunbeam in the forum. We love you.
Cornelius

The seasons have surely changed....For the past week and even today, it has been sunny and the temps range from 75-80 degrees.

The whole of South Africa is getting rain. I praise God for it. We have been praying for rain and now its here....buckets full!
Praise be to the Almighty, Loving God. We SOOOOOOOO needed it.
Its green again, and it makes me happy.
C

Here in Arkansas it has been so dry that we need the rain. We are in a drought here and yesterday we had 40 fires in the state. The rain or the SNOW is much needed.
The weather here is flip-floping back and forth so much we dont know what to wear outside!
Kim

Personally I think if God had a "proffesion" it would be gardener... .

Genesis 2:8,9 (King James Version)
8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.



And I DO think we'll have gardens in heaven...:

Amos 9:13-15 (King James Version)


13Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.

14And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
15And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

I can hardly wait!!





Amen!!



Cornelius- Praise the Lord!!


Kim- I hope you're not close to the fires.!!....??

Scientists believe our crazy weather is due to El Nino, but that doesn't explain all the earthquakes.

isn't el nino on an 11 year cycle?

The Pacific NorthWest is breaking the all time records for rainfall. The earth is turning to mush!

Global warming = higher temperatures....higher teimperatures = increased melting of artic ice....more melted artic ice = more fresh water....more fresh water = decreased ocean water density.....decreased water density = slowing or stopping of oceans current circulations, and these oceans currents is what regulates global temperatures...when these currents slow....dramatic climate change results....for example, a global temperature increase melted ice, dumped more fresh water into the ocean, slowing ocean currents, in june of that year 1836, America experienced snow storms! Sheep recently sheered all froze to death. Ice cicles 5 feet long hung off the roofs...It was believe the sun's solar maxium in which the sun radiates more radiation caused the sudden warming that led to june snow...iso 1836 was called " the year summer never came". Today, there's record cold temperatures in India, Europe, and Japan. We could be seeing the begining a mini-ice age...Currently, the sun is at it's solar miniumim, so less radiation is reaching the earth so the warming temperatures may well be man-made, due to green house gases. Soon, we will enter the solar max, green house gas induced global warming + solar max. means the worst possible combination for extremely severe sudden climatic change...perhaps an abrupt return of the ice age? Perhaps we go the other way, all coastal cities submerged, super storms so big and powerful that previously we could only find storms of that magnitude on other planets....meterologists also are puzzling another mystery....why did so many 2005 hurricanes have such strong & frequent lightening? It is not possible for a hurricane to produce lightening over water....land is needed to make conditions right for lightening because lightening is caused by vertical winds....hurricanes only have horizontal winds....

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Summary (Jan 10, 2006): New scientific findings are strengthening the case that the oceans and climate are linked in an intricate dance, and that rapid climate change may be related to how vigorously ocean currents move heat between low and high latitudes.

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The global ocean circulation system, often called the Ocean Conveyor, transports heat worldwide. White sections represent warm surface currents. Purple sections represent cold deep currents.
Credit: Jayne Doucette, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

New scientific findings are strengthening the case that the oceans and climate are linked in an intricate dance, and that rapid climate change may be related to how vigorously ocean currents move heat between low and high latitudes.

The research, by Candace Major, an investigator at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, was presented today at a press conference at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.

In the North Atlantic region, the glacial climate has been characterized by abrupt climate swings between cold, or stadial, conditions and relatively warm or interstadial conditions like the present. Scientists have theorized that stadial-interstadial transitions were most likely caused by changes in the strength of the thermohaline circulation in the North Atlantic Ocean. Thermohaline circulation, the global ocean circulation system, is driven by differences in the density of sea water, which is controlled by temperature (thermal) and salinity (haline). In the North Atlantic the system transports warm salty water poleward, where the water cools and sinks into the deep ocean. This newly formed deep water is subsequently exported southward, driving the conveyor.

Major s findings build on research reported in 2004 suggesting that when the rate of the Atlantic Ocean's north-south overturning circulation slowed dramatically following an iceberg outburst during the last deglaciation, the climate in the North Atlantic region became colder. When the rate of the ocean's overturning circulation subsequently accelerated, the climate warmed abruptly.

Major, a postdoctoral scholar in the WHOI Geology and Geophysics Department, took the 2004 studies a step further back in time, into the heart of the last ice age 30,000 to 60,000 years ago. Using the same technique that compares the abundance of two naturally occurring isotopes, protactinium and thorium, she compared the temperature record of an ice core from Greenland to a sediment core collected on the Blake Outer Ridge off the east coast of the United States.

Protactinium and thorium are daughter isotopes of naturally occurring uranium in seawater. Thorium sticks better to sinking particles and most of it falls quickly to the ocean floor, while some percentage of protactinium will be exported out of the North Atlantic by prevailing currents. In the last 20,000 years, the ratio of protactinium to thorium (Pa/Th) has increased when ocean circulation was strong, and decreased when ocean circulation was weak.

Major found similar results going back 60,000 years ago. Northern hemisphere temperature has varied with the strength of ocean circulation over the past 60,000 years. Warm periods have occurred when the overturning circulation was strong, while cold periods occurred when circulation was weak.

The temperature record from the ice core results correlates very well with the sea surface temperature measured in the sediment core much further to the south, Major said. Freshwater input to the North Atlantic, largely from melting glaciers and icebergs, seems to decrease the strength of the overturning. During cold periods, coarse debris is found in cores at the Blake Outer Ridge, attributed to ice-rafted debris brought by melting icebergs far south of their range in warm periods, like today.

We need to understand what the rate of the overturning is, Major said, because it is the rate of flow that determines the amount of heat transported by the oceans. The variations we have seen are too frequent to be explained only by the changes in the distribution of sunlight reaching Earth s surface, which is our best guess at the most powerful external force influencing climate.


A sample sediment core. Stryofoam marks points in the core where samples have been extracted for study. Sediment cores reveal historical changes in climate, circulation patterns, volcanic eruptions, and other major geologic events.
Credit: Tom Kleindinst, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

Thorium (Th) resides in the water column no more than a few decades before settling to the sea floor. Protactinium (Pa) is removed less readily and thus remains in the water column 100 to 200 years. As a result, about half of the protactinium produced in North Atlantic water today is exported out of the North Atlantic as part of the ocean circulation system known as the great conveyor. But in cold periods when circulation is weak, the percentage exported out of the North Atlantic is close to zero.

Colleagues Jerry McManus, Lloyd Keigwin and Susan Brown-Leger at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and Roger Francois at the University of British Columbia with graduate student Jeanne-Marie Gherardi first used the Th/Pa method in 2004 to study ocean circulation and abrupt climate change during the past 20,000 years. They found that the coldest interval occurred when the overturning circulation collapsed following the discharge of icebergs into the North Atlantic 17,500 years ago. This regional climatic extreme began suddenly and lasted for two thousand years. Another cold snap 12,700 years ago lasted more than a thousand years and accompanied another slowdown of overturning circulation. Each of these two cold intervals was followed by a rapid acceleration of the overturning circulation and dramatically warmer climates over Northern Europe and the North Atlantic region.

Major says nutrient proxies, such as carbon isotope ratios, have been widely used to reconstruct water mass reorganizations associated with this so-called stadial-interstadial or cold-warm variability. While these tracers help determine the volume of water represented by each of these water masses at any one point in time, they don t provide direct information about the rate of thermohaline circulation.

Ocean scientists have long suspected that strong overturning circulation leads to warm conditions in the North Atlantic region, and weak overturning circulation leads to cold conditions. Major s study is the first to apply the novel Pa/Th technique to get an estimate of Atlantic circulation rates in the deep past during the heart of the last glacial period.

Something is different about the ocean's circulation at times of rapid climate change, and it appears that the difference is related to changes in the rate of ocean circulation, Major said. Are these changes unique to deglaciation, or are they a characteristic of abrupt climate changes over the more distant past? The answer, according to the work presented by Major at this meeting, seems to be that such changes occur throughout the last glacial cycle.
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Snowstorm Closes Hawaii Volcano To Tourists
Rare Event Causes Concern, Surprise

POSTED: 6:18 pm EST January 23, 2006
UPDATED: 6:44 pm EST January 23, 2006

MAUNA KEA, Hawaii -- Officials closed the summit of Hawaii's Mauna Kea volcano to the public after a snowstorm shut down access for the first time this winter season.

Clouds blanketed Hawaii's tallest peak this weekend. A blanket of snow forced everyone to evacuate, including park rangers.

(Check out the snow from Honolulu TV station KITV's Web cam on Mauna Kea)

"We've got to make sure and keep everybody healthy and safe on the summit. So, I'm closing it," Mauna Kea ranger Kimo Pihana said.

The heavy snowfall was a rare sight, even for those who are up there almost every day.

"The snow began to accumulate very quickly and we had to evacuate to prevent being trapped on the summit," telescope operator Paul Sears said.

A California family was at the summit when the snow started falling, before the road was shut down.

"Did you ever think you'd see snow in Hawaii?" a reporter asked.

"Wasn't really expecting to see snow in Hawaii," said Bob Nyman.

"So it's a nice treat on your vacation?" the reporter asked.

"Oh absolutely. It was great," Nyman said.

For visitors who didn't have timing on their side, the trek ended at the 9,000-foot mark where the road was closed.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/weather/6377419/detail.html

Our high Desert in California is known for climatic extremes. But this year has been Crazy extremes. At 4800 foot elevation by now we should have had at least two snows. We have instead had one day at 25 degrees and the next day at 88 degrees. This has happened a lot this year and it hasn't stopped yet. I have never seen extremes so extreme here before.

Charlie

Crazy is right! This past week in the 70's again. Monday calling for snow. Arkansas
Kimi

Hi all
This is an old thread, but thought I'd post something that was extremely odd sounding to me. About 4 weeks ago (somewhere in there am getting old and senile ) we had a super cell in Bend Oregon. We dont get tornados in Oregon... ever... I questioned my Dad about it if he could remember anything like that... a super celll in Oregon? He is 77 soon to be 78, and he said nope never, (course he could be as senile as me but I doubt it) anyway, just something out of the norm that is becoming normal lately
Lorna

So many signs............... we who know Him..............know He is spepking to us..

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Praise Jesus for His word...................

Welcome Kable........God Bless you and yours