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crownsevenalphabet
Click here: Scotsman.com News - Scotland - One in five Scots has blood tie to ancient Iraq
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=51752005
One in five Scots has blood tie to ancient Iraq


http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesDNA.html

Contents:
1. What Proof is there linking Brit-Am Western Peoples to the Middle East and Ancient Israel?
2. Are there reports of DNA studies where DNA Scientists themselves admit that their conclusions are uncertain?
3. What limitations do DNA tests have?
4. What Does Palestinian DNA Show US?
5. What Can DNA Studies in General Tell Us?
6. How Does Jewish DNA compare with British?
7. How would you summarize the Brit-Am reservations concerning DNA?
" To Death Do Us Part": Postscript to DNA and Environmental Influence
8. What is mtDNA and what can it tell us?
(a) General Introduction
(cool.gif British mtDNA
© Jewish mtDNA
9. What is YDNA and what can it tell us?
10. What Can you tell us about the different DNA haplogroups?
11. What is the "Cohen Gene"?
12. If as Brit-Am states the Lost Ten Tribes went westward, is it (as is claimed) that Jews are more similar genetically to Palestinians than they are to West Europeans?
crownsevenalphabet
http://members.cox.net/8thday/newjerusalem.html

As in the above illustrations, the Word of God is a seed that
contains the ultimate potential. We as human beings are also born of
seed with an ultimate potential. Contained in each of us is all the
DNA needed to complete the tasks God has given us to do in this life.
As seed contains the DNA of its parents, likewise the Bible also
contains the DNA of God! It is like a person, or a body. As in a
body, every cell is predestined to a certain designation or function.
Some as body parts, some as organs, or nervous system, skeletal
system, etc. Each in it's own place. Each in it's own ORDER. Like the
cells in a body, each letter in the Word of God is a cell containing
his DNA that combine into words, each word predestined for a specific
designation or function in the body of the work.(excerpt)
crownsevenalphabet

http://members.cox.net/8thday/finished.html

********THE HOLY DNA********
The Holy DNA of Jesus Christ is the MARK or SEAL on the soul.
At the time when God blew into the nostrils of Adam, He transferred into man His Holy DNA! The breath of life carries the Holy DNA.
The Holy DNA is hidden within the double helix of our own DNA. The Holy DNA responds to SOUND or pitch.
Every person is a note, speech, vibration, sound. Our own DNA makes a certain sound or vibration.
At the LAST TRUMP, the hidden Holy DNA will respond/waken to the sound of the trump and become active and alive in resurrection and change. The appearing of the Holy DNA will happen IN US first and manifest outward!
As the Holy DNA lies hidden within us, the earth is the hidden "Holy DNA" of the Universe! The earth lies hidden in the midst of billions of galaxies. When the change occurs in the earth as in our own bodies, the universe will be altered as well!


http://www.meru.org/Newsletter/textnotstories.html
MORE ABOUT THE HOLY DNA:

In this model, whatever their source, the stories of the Bible are the necessary vessel that carries the informational DNA inside itself. It's the making, wrapping, and unfolding of this vessel that Genesis presents to us. It's not in the past; it's how our consciousness works, right now . . . Both "vessel" and "germ" are required. An acorn without the germ of an oak tree inside is sterile, and dead. The germ of an oak tree without its acorn desiccates and dies. Only the two together, acorn and germ of oak tree, vessel and light, "Lord-God," can live, propagate, and represent All Life. (So, the stories are vital, but they shouldn't be confused with the informational DNA woven within them.)




http://www.jacksonsnyder.com/Arc/2006/dna.htm ( Read this full link, you will be amazed )
MORE PROOF OF THE HOLY DNA :


The soul code of DNA links man to YHWH. But, this doesn’t equate mankind to YHWH. We aren’t god. The code shows only our potential – to be like YHWH in our intentions and purpose. We can’t achieve His state of greatness. Just as a flashlight will not work without batteries, our sincere efforts to correct the soul are useless. We just can’t correct our soul enough. We just can’t follow Torah enough. The darkness of chet is too much. Good works can’t dispel total darkness. “Whoever keeps the whole Torah and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it,” says the Newer Testament. Prayer, obedience, and faith bring us closer to YHWH, but without the love of Messiah, we are still in the dark. Messiah is the floodlight that lights up our life.
Mankind was made in the image of YHWH. We have His name written upon our very DNA. Scientists have proved that His name is stamped upon every soul. However, because of chet, because of sin, layers of separation distance our soul from our creator. “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of YHWH,” Romans 3:23. Our stubborn self-will causes us to go an independent way. However, because of loving kindness, YHWH has “sent His only begotten son, that whosoever believes upon him would not perish but have everlasting life,” John 3:16. We can connect our neshamah to YHWH though his son, Yahshua. The Savior is the only path to deliverance and salvation from the sinful self. The layers of sin that cloak our neshamah can only be removed through His blood. “As many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become the children of YHWH, even to those who believe in His name,” John 1:12. The DNA within our bodies points to our Creator and the salvation that He has provided. The YHWH code, within each person, is His son Yahshua.
crownsevenalphabet

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/news.asp
Amazing Discoveries (2/1/2005)

Is There a "God Gene" in Our DNA?

By J. R. Church



It’s called "a provocative study" — Is religion a product of evolution? This is the question under consideration in the October 25, 2004, edition of TIME magazine by staff writer, Jeffrey Kluger. He said that some scientists think that the evolutionary process simply developed a genetic tendency in some people toward a feeling of transcendence.

Is there a gene embedded in our chromosomes that gives us a sense of something or someone beyond this time/space dimension? Are some people divinely disposed while others are not? Rush Limbaugh said that some people have the gene while others do not. He said, "Those who have it live in the red states and those who don’t live in the blue states!"

All kidding aside, could we have a genetic connection to heaven? Is it possible that our Creator could have embedded such a genetic code in human chromosomes? If the theory of a "God gene" were ever proven, the evidence would have to come down on the side of "design" rather than on random selection by some evolutionary process.

Kluger writes, "Ask true believers of any faith to describe the most important thing that drives their devotion, and they’ll tell you it’s not a thing at all but a sense — a feeling of a higher power far beyond us." However, Kluger suggests that mankind may have a more practical need for religion — the need for survival. He postulates that religion helps man to think that his body and mind can be preserved somewhere after death. He questions: "Which came first, God or the need for God? Did humans create religion from cues from above, or did evolution instill in us a sense of the divine so that we would gather into the communities essential to keeping the species going? … Even among people who regard spiritual life as wishful hocus-pocus, there is a growing sense that humans may not be able to survive without it."

This idea of a God gene is the work of Dr. Dean Hamer, chief of molecular biology at the National Cancer Institute. He has published a book on the subject, claiming that he has located one of the genetic codes that give man the sense of transcendence. Hamer calls his God gene "VMAT2" — a vesicular monoamine transporter that regulates the flow of mood-altering chemicals in the brain.

This so-called "God gene" contains the codes for the neurotransmitters that regulate our moods: "… every thought we think and every feeling we feel is the result of activity in the brain. I think we follow the basic law of nature, which is that we’re a bunch of chemical reactions running around in a bag."

Dr. Hamer misses the point. This secular hypothesis offers no explanation as to why we have such a gene in the first place.

Dr. Hamer seems to think that our "feelings of spirituality may be due to little more than an occasional shot of intoxicating brain chemicals governed by our DNA."

It seems to me that he is putting the proverbial "cart before the horse." There is a verse in the Bible that lends toward the possibility that God programmed our DNA to recognize a transcendental existence. Solomon wrote:

"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world [eternity] in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end" (Eccl. 3:11).

Kluger quoted a translation that says, "[God has] set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end."

The Interlinear Bible’s literal translation says, "He has set eternity in their hearts, without which man cannot find out the work that God makes from the beginning to the end."

The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible translates the Hebrew text olam, as "world," but it also refers to "eternity." Furthermore, the Interlinear Bible shifts the grammar from "no man can find out" to "without which, man cannot comprehend" God’s plan of the ages "from the beginning to the end."

The context may be telling us that God has placed something deep within us, without which we could not even begin to fathom eternal values.

For example, if a computer cannot contact, nor comprehend the Internet without a special software driver and modem, it seems logical that mankind cannot contact, nor comprehend our Creator without some program encoded in our genetic makeup.

Kluger suggests, "If human beings were indeed divinely assembled, why wouldn’t our list of parts include a genetic chip that would enable us to contemplate our maker?"

However, before we buy into that concept, let us remember that "moods" affect only the soul. Though moods may account for a feeling of ecstasy, only the Holy Spirit can guide us toward a true knowledge of God.

Feelings of ecstasy can lead us into all kinds of foolish notions. In the Old Testament, such religiosity could lead one into "idolatry." We are cautioned to "try the spirits, whether they are of God" (I John 4:1). The Bible tells us that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).

Whether or not we are predisposed toward feelings of transcendence, God still offers eternal life to all. Salvation is not a matter of emotion, but of faith — of simply believing what we read in the Bible about the First Advent of Christ — His death, burial and resurrection on our behalf.

Now, we are intelligent people. Therefore, we would do well to explore that inner desire to live forever by reading the only book in the world that offers the answer for a future existence beyond this world — the Bible. We should read it … carefully.

lesliefain
God is so awesome! I always stand in amazement at his Creation and the deep mysteries that every single thing he created has. We as people tend to only look at the surface which is beautiful in itself. But our scientists find so much more that proves we are wonderfully and skillfully made!!
Adonaicole
I have nothing to back this up, but I've always thought the scots were descendents of Esau, red and hairy.
Esauland plus 1000 years Scotland, that's just a thought I've had.
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Dec 27 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]138771[/snapback]

I have nothing to back this up, but I've always thought the scots were descendents of Esau, red and hairy.
Esauland plus 1000 years Scotland, that's just a thought I've had.



Blessings Adonaicole :

Go view this about your thoughts : ( Esau )

http://www.britam.org/anthropology.html
Adonaicole
Interesting article but it confused me. What is the point that they were trying to make?
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Dec 27 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]138802[/snapback]

Interesting article but it confused me. What is the point that they were trying to make?



The idea is based on the 10 Lost Tribes which mixed with different cultures. So the identity of
the Hebrew bloodline requires blood testing, not facial characteristics.

crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Dec 27 2007, 08:31 AM) *
http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/news.asp
Amazing Discoveries (2/1/2005)

Is There a "God Gene" in Our DNA?

By J. R. Church



It’s called "a provocative study" — Is religion a product of evolution? This is the question under consideration in the October 25, 2004, edition of TIME magazine by staff writer, Jeffrey Kluger. He said that some scientists think that the evolutionary process simply developed a genetic tendency in some people toward a feeling of transcendence.

Is there a gene embedded in our chromosomes that gives us a sense of something or someone beyond this time/space dimension? Are some people divinely disposed while others are not? Rush Limbaugh said that some people have the gene while others do not. He said, "Those who have it live in the red states and those who don’t live in the blue states!"

All kidding aside, could we have a genetic connection to heaven? Is it possible that our Creator could have embedded such a genetic code in human chromosomes? If the theory of a "God gene" were ever proven, the evidence would have to come down on the side of "design" rather than on random selection by some evolutionary process.

Kluger writes, "Ask true believers of any faith to describe the most important thing that drives their devotion, and they’ll tell you it’s not a thing at all but a sense — a feeling of a higher power far beyond us." However, Kluger suggests that mankind may have a more practical need for religion — the need for survival. He postulates that religion helps man to think that his body and mind can be preserved somewhere after death. He questions: "Which came first, God or the need for God? Did humans create religion from cues from above, or did evolution instill in us a sense of the divine so that we would gather into the communities essential to keeping the species going? … Even among people who regard spiritual life as wishful hocus-pocus, there is a growing sense that humans may not be able to survive without it."

This idea of a God gene is the work of Dr. Dean Hamer, chief of molecular biology at the National Cancer Institute. He has published a book on the subject, claiming that he has located one of the genetic codes that give man the sense of transcendence. Hamer calls his God gene "VMAT2" — a vesicular monoamine transporter that regulates the flow of mood-altering chemicals in the brain.

This so-called "God gene" contains the codes for the neurotransmitters that regulate our moods: "… every thought we think and every feeling we feel is the result of activity in the brain. I think we follow the basic law of nature, which is that we’re a bunch of chemical reactions running around in a bag."

Dr. Hamer misses the point. This secular hypothesis offers no explanation as to why we have such a gene in the first place.

Dr. Hamer seems to think that our "feelings of spirituality may be due to little more than an occasional shot of intoxicating brain chemicals governed by our DNA."

It seems to me that he is putting the proverbial "cart before the horse." There is a verse in the Bible that lends toward the possibility that God programmed our DNA to recognize a transcendental existence. Solomon wrote:

"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world [eternity] in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end" (Eccl. 3:11).

Kluger quoted a translation that says, "[God has] set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end."

The Interlinear Bible’s literal translation says, "He has set eternity in their hearts, without which man cannot find out the work that God makes from the beginning to the end."

The King James Version (KJV) of the Bible translates the Hebrew text olam, as "world," but it also refers to "eternity." Furthermore, the Interlinear Bible shifts the grammar from "no man can find out" to "without which, man cannot comprehend" God’s plan of the ages "from the beginning to the end."

The context may be telling us that God has placed something deep within us, without which we could not even begin to fathom eternal values.

For example, if a computer cannot contact, nor comprehend the Internet without a special software driver and modem, it seems logical that mankind cannot contact, nor comprehend our Creator without some program encoded in our genetic makeup.

Kluger suggests, "If human beings were indeed divinely assembled, why wouldn’t our list of parts include a genetic chip that would enable us to contemplate our maker?"

However, before we buy into that concept, let us remember that "moods" affect only the soul. Though moods may account for a feeling of ecstasy, only the Holy Spirit can guide us toward a true knowledge of God.

Feelings of ecstasy can lead us into all kinds of foolish notions. In the Old Testament, such religiosity could lead one into "idolatry." We are cautioned to "try the spirits, whether they are of God" (I John 4:1). The Bible tells us that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).

Whether or not we are predisposed toward feelings of transcendence, God still offers eternal life to all. Salvation is not a matter of emotion, but of faith — of simply believing what we read in the Bible about the First Advent of Christ — His death, burial and resurrection on our behalf.

Now, we are intelligent people. Therefore, we would do well to explore that inner desire to live forever by reading the only book in the world that offers the answer for a future existence beyond this world — the Bible. We should read it … carefully.

Vissarion
For those of you who care about such things, the term blood-tie is old-hat and useless.
Yes, 1 in 5 Scotsman can trace their roots back to Iraq. The other 4 also can.

You can have your DNA analyzed nowadays. National Geographic and IBM have joined up to map out the human journey from its humble beginnings in Africa up till now.
I got my results back a few weeks ago. It is truly fascinating. You can literally see the journey of either your maternal or paternal lineage going back at least 60,000 years.
If you want to join this project go to the National Geographic website.

All modern Europeans have made the same journey. Up from Africa through Mesopotamia, up to Asia and a sharp left into Europe.

I am kidding of course. Nothing like that ever happened and those scoundrels at National Geographic and IBM are all involved in a huge conspiracy to distract you from the fact that we are all descendants from Adam and Eve after they had an encounter with a talking snake [sic].

I wonder though, if we all come from A and E and the world is only 6000 years old, how come I don't look anything like the folks in Tokyo or the aborigines in Australia or my black neighbor ?

Hmmmm, must be a clever ruse by Satan.

V.
whirlwind
QUOTE (Vissarion @ Apr 8 2008, 06:03 PM) *
I am kidding of course. Nothing like that ever happened and those scoundrels at National Geographic and IBM are all involved in a huge conspiracy to distract you from the fact that we are all descendants from Adam and Eve after they had an encounter with a talking snake [sic].

I wonder though, if we all come from A and E and the world is only 6000 years old, how come I don't look anything like the folks in Tokyo or the aborigines in Australia or my black neighbor ?

Hmmmm, must be a clever ruse by Satan.

V.



It is a clever ruse that makes Christians that follow what they were taught in Sunday school look like big dummies to the rest of the world or keeps others that know it couldn't have happened that way from becoming Christian. They figure....well if that part is a lie the rest of it must be too.


A clever ruse indeed by Satan and perpetuated by either well meaning folks that just don't know better and want to believe the Bible without digging in His Word for what He tells us or.....by those that purposely mislead and deceive. Take your pick....either way, what a shame.


The truth is there.


......Whirlwind
researcher
QUOTE (Vissarion @ Apr 8 2008, 03:03 PM) *
For those of you who care about such things, the term blood-tie is old-hat and useless.
Yes, 1 in 5 Scotsman can trace their roots back to Iraq. The other 4 also can.

You can have your DNA analyzed nowadays. National Geographic and IBM have joined up to map out the human journey from its humble beginnings in Africa up till now.
I got my results back a few weeks ago. It is truly fascinating. You can literally see the journey of either your maternal or paternal lineage going back at least 60,000 years.
If you want to join this project go to the National Geographic website.

All modern Europeans have made the same journey. Up from Africa through Mesopotamia, up to Asia and a sharp left into Europe.

I am kidding of course. Nothing like that ever happened and those scoundrels at National Geographic and IBM are all involved in a huge conspiracy to distract you from the fact that we are all descendants from Adam and Eve after they had an encounter with a talking snake [sic].

I wonder though, if we all come from A and E and the world is only 6000 years old, how come I don't look anything like the folks in Tokyo or the aborigines in Australia or my black neighbor ?

Hmmmm, must be a clever ruse by Satan.

V.


Lol. I always did like Vissarions sense of humor, lol. Sharp like a tack, lol.

But, Vissarion, we didn't all come from Adam and Eve. Adam was a 3rd Day creation, and, the rest of Mankind, and all of their races came from Those made on the 6th Day. The Hebrew Scripture was misinterpreted. There is a thread in the Bible Study topic that deals with that and shows irrefutable proof that there were others made beyond Adam (and Eve). That's how we come up with all of the different types of people in the world. As for the world being 6000 years old. I'm sure it is much older than that as I believe the scriptures show pre-Adamic and Pre-modern man civilizations. There was just a start over point which is what we see in Genesis.
fryslanboppe
QUOTE (Vissarion @ Apr 8 2008, 07:03 PM) *
For those of you who care about such things, the term blood-tie is old-hat and useless.
Yes, 1 in 5 Scotsman can trace their roots back to Iraq. The other 4 also can.

You can have your DNA analyzed nowadays. National Geographic and IBM have joined up to map out the human journey from its humble beginnings in Africa up till now.
I got my results back a few weeks ago. It is truly fascinating. You can literally see the journey of either your maternal or paternal lineage going back at least 60,000 years.
If you want to join this project go to the National Geographic website.

All modern Europeans have made the same journey. Up from Africa through Mesopotamia, up to Asia and a sharp left into Europe.

I am kidding of course. Nothing like that ever happened and those scoundrels at National Geographic and IBM are all involved in a huge conspiracy to distract you from the fact that we are all descendants from Adam and Eve after they had an encounter with a talking snake [sic].

I wonder though, if we all come from A and E and the world is only 6000 years old, how come I don't look anything like the folks in Tokyo or the aborigines in Australia or my black neighbor ?

Hmmmm, must be a clever ruse by Satan.

V.


You don't look asian/aboriginal/black??? But you believe you DO look like 'an ape-like' ancestor.

You do look like them, except for your skin colour. Skin colour is caused by something called melanon (sp?) and creationists DO believe in micro-evolution. Micro-evolution would bring about the different skin colour, just like it brings about people who are taller, hair colour and all those little things.

Micro-evolution is not a clever ruse of Satan, but one of the ways God makes this world so cool. You are unlike anyone else, special, made in his image.
Vissarion
QUOTE (fryslanboppe @ Apr 8 2008, 04:52 PM) *
You don't look asian/aboriginal/black??? But you believe you DO look like 'an ape-like' ancestor.


I can assure you my dear, as anyone who knows me can attest to, that I am very ape-like indeed.

QUOTE
You do look like them, except for your skin colour. Skin colour is caused by something called melanon (sp?) and creationists DO believe in micro-evolution. Micro-evolution would bring about the different skin colour, just like it brings about people who are taller, hair colour and all those little things.

Micro-evolution is not a clever ruse of Satan, but one of the ways God makes this world so cool. You are unlike anyone else, special, made in his image.


That is a new one. Yes, I accept evolution, but only in a limited way.
That is like saying you accept gravity but only slightly.

Impressed I am not.

V.

fryslanboppe
QUOTE (Vissarion @ Apr 8 2008, 07:59 PM) *
QUOTE (fryslanboppe @ Apr 8 2008, 04:52 PM) *
You don't look asian/aboriginal/black??? But you believe you DO look like 'an ape-like' ancestor.


I can assure you my dear, as anyone who knows me can attest to, that I am very ape-like indeed.

QUOTE
You do look like them, except for your skin colour. Skin colour is caused by something called melanon (sp?) and creationists DO believe in micro-evolution. Micro-evolution would bring about the different skin colour, just like it brings about people who are taller, hair colour and all those little things.

Micro-evolution is not a clever ruse of Satan, but one of the ways God makes this world so cool. You are unlike anyone else, special, made in his image.


That is a new one. Yes, I accept evolution, but only in a limited way.
That is like saying you accept gravity but only slightly.

Impressed I am not.

V.


Vissarion, does gravity affect evolution???


I don't accept the theory of evolution. Micro-evolution is a small change in DNA, whether a duplication, loss, or a change in excisting DNA.
Macro-evolution, very different, is the GAIN of BENEFICIAL DNA (and not just a little). The fern has 480 chromosomes if I remember correctly.




If you get the chance, watch the documentary "Expelled : No Intelligence Allowed" which is coming out April 18th. Then you'll see why the theory is so actively promoted and all other theories are disregarded.


Assuming Satan exists, Vissarion, what do you think he would want to have promoted in this world? Try to put a lot of thought into this.
Vissarion
QUOTE (fryslanboppe @ Apr 8 2008, 05:25 PM) *
Vissarion, does gravity affect evolution???


Eh, do androids dream of electric sheep ? What is your point ?


QUOTE
I don't accept the theory of evolution. Micro-evolution is a small change in DNA, whether a duplication, loss, or a change in excisting DNA.
Macro-evolution, very different, is the GAIN of BENEFICIAL DNA (and not just a little). The fern has 480 chromosomes if I remember correctly.


I have more respect for the fundies who stick to their guns.
You, my Dutch friend, are an example of appalling intellectual dishonesty.

You know better but you don't have the balls to admit it.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

V.
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