Recently l was trying to find the interpretation of the circle code around the torso of the body...l emailed Shekel to ask him about it but found it before he could respond..here is some of the correspondence.

I said:
Never mind...I found it...dah



That's a lot for just those few letters..I'm wondering if this image overlaps anything?


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So here we read the small cross inside of same circle but when we read around the circle we are reading the letters that touch the edge of it right? So if l'm seeing it right there is much overlapped in the same spot.




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Yes it is remarkable...
See here's why l'm confused. are there other images of Christ on the cross because this one is side ways from the other one...

I just keep wanting to look at the torso..and the circle surrounding it...but which one and where?



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I'm not doubting it you know...I trust you and l've seen enough to believe...and God has spoken to me personally..so that makes 3 I'll see if l can dig up a forth reason to believe but three works good. Anyway...these are two different images...(of Christ on the cross) over lapping but turned in different directions right?
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See this is what l mean..




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That is amazing Shekel...I never realized it before because l was confused by the images..but his body is laid on on the altar of the flame of the mountain! Wow...I wish l knew and understood more so l could keep appreciating it. It's so amazing...it really is. I understand that you must be constantly in awe when you talk about it. Praise God! And thanks for answering my questions...(I might have more)



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Here are some online Hebrew to English dictionaries that you can use to compare the Hebrew to the codes. I realize that most do not know Hebrew, but at least this way you can see the Hebrew word and look for the Hebrew letters in the code yourself. Like any language, one word may be spelt in several ways (synonyms). So you might have to compare several words before you find the right one. Generally the first Hebrew word listed will be the correct one as it will be the most used translation of the word. Remember that Hebrew reads from right to left, therefore, the best Hebrew word will be found at the right side of the screen, not the left.

The first website tends to be more simple (less definitions).
The second is better (more thorough) but could be confusing.
And the last translates whole sentences.

http://www.lingvozone.com/LingvoSoft-Onlin...brew-Dictionary
http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=
http://www.stars21.com/translator/english_to_hebrew.html

Guys; that is just--as my grandkids would say--"WAY COOL!"

I just Stand in Awe of my Lord! It is just one layer on top of the other! The Word of God is ALIVE, just as it says! Not only do we peel one layer off to expose another in the Word as we study... but the codes are layered as well!

Romans 11:33

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

I do have a question for you Miki or Shekel..... On the Menorah, from what I can see there are 8 branches?

I am a little confused.... I have heard of a 7 branched candelstick... and also the Menorah of Hanukkah (the 9 branched candelstick. ) Each of these menorah's normally turn in and look to the center Branch or the "Servant Lamp". But from where I can see on the code where the Cross is there are 3 flames on one side and 4 on the other side of the Cross. So is it possible that the code extends on to the one side to make it a 9 branch Menorah? It just seems to me that Christ in the Code would be situated at the Servant Lamp spot.

Probably nothing.... but I would have imagined that it might be. With the whole miracle of the Menorah during the Macabees Revolt. This took place before Christ came..... The Scripture in Zechariah 4 would seem to suggest the 9 branched one as well. (It speaks of the 7 lamps and the 2 olive trees on both sides)


This would make sense to me.... the 4 on the left would turn to the middle representing the OT and then the 4 or the right would turn back to the cross looking back to the Servant lamp. Or I could even see a 7 branch candlestick... the 8 branched one just kind of threw me.

Sorry if this was confusing... I apologize if it was.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

The menorah image can use the last letter (flame) optionally. It reads basically the same. The eighth flame is called a shemah (or something like that). It is used to light the other seven candles on Hanukah.

So I understand the lamp to represent a regular menorah or the one used on Hanukah that commemorates the victory of the Jews over an anti-christ figure in 165 BC.

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2006/dec/1...-get-all-those/

Here is a quote from the above article about the eight-branched Hanukkah menorah/lamp.

"Their perseverance can teach us a lesson, Bronstein added. If people take steps to begin battling global problems, God will intervene, she said.

And that's where the significance of eight menorah candles comes in. Eight is rare in Jewish literature — unlike the number seven that represents, among many things, the days of the week.

"Eight isn't normal," Bronstein said. "It's holier. It's outside this world."

One candle is lit every night until the eighth evening, when the entire candelabrum is aglow. The flame is traditionally set near a window as a public message of hope, miracles and perseverance."

I have too many questions...

Seems like the heart of the Lord would be extremely important.



The little cross inside the circle around the chest...



What else is the chest on top of? I mean the actual circle...You know what l'm getting at don't you...The pierced side...I know you haven't seen it...I was trying to look under the circle to see what was all there. The understanding of the burnt offering was a great extra.

God is for her...God was for Hagar too...Two rejected women..What do you think?

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-mount-torah-codes-4.htm
And since we're on this image...notice Val how the Menorah looks like a serpent wrapped around the pole. Is that where you were looking for the other stick?

I could go on and on...Here it says.(on the same page) by Shekel...





"He-will-be-joined"..Elijah will be joined...(by us maybe in heaven?) And then Leah says Jacob will be joined as well..All this by Christ's humanity.

And then see here how those two candle sticks on the left become the fire or cloud around the Mountain..

And this is so utterly amazing...



In the 70's l had a vision experience and the effects of which lasted 3 weeks... The hands of God were holding a film stip of life stretched out with the beginning in the right hand and the end in his left. It was alive and moving. At that young age it was the first time l realized what it meant to step outside of time..

It was supernatural and even though l wasn't walking with him then nor knew who he was... God was moving in my life. I had a hard time functioning for 3 weeks following this event..I've never had anything like that since.

It all so blows me away...my mind is filled with it...Just the entire revelation of it all and what and why God is doing it. It consumes me...

l've got a song in my heart again...

Yes Miki, there is a contrast of women here in the bible code, but the two women in contrast are Rachel and Leah, the two wives of Jacob, the first loved and the second not loved.

In this code, however, it says that Yeshua's (Jesus) love for Leah is burning, and while Rachel is in the code as well in a positive way, it is Leah that has the special place to Yeshua.

I understand Leah to symbolize the Church (the bride of Christ), and Rachel to be symbolic of Israel --- but I could be wrong. It is a matter of interpretation.

I recall that Bilhah is also there too.

See below image that I just put together...

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-picture...e-riddles-1.htm

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-2.htm

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-3.htm

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-mount-torah-codes-4.htm



By the way, the first post looks great Miki, the way it goes back and forth in our discussion by email.

This is so cool...Hagar's name is there too. I didn't know it when l said that...I care about Hagar..

I knew Rachel was there. But Leah is at the heart of the matter ..Maybe the green L is a bended knee? Love the image! Do you know what 'el' means in Hebrew?

Miki that is amazing! I am just in AWE! I do see the serpent... and the cross gives the appearance of it being lifted up!

John 3:14
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

John 12:32
32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Miki.. and Shekel thanks for the information on the 8 branch Menorah.... I have never heard of that.... I had in my mind that the 9 branch candlestick was the one that was used at Hannukkah. Whew so much to absorb!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

"El" means "God" in Hebrew. But that may just be a coincidence. I am not sure of why the shape and this is why I never spoke of this before. All the bible codes on my site form images, and this was just an "L", but what is that? However, it does not look like a random thing given the context of where it is located with the rest of the images.

My best guess is that the "L" reminds us of the modern phonetic spelling of the name, "Rachel", but upside down an "L" looks like the way an "R" is spelt in Hebrew, "R" (Resh) for Rachel? (Note the upside-down shape of the HEBREW letter Resh, "R" at the corner of the "L" shape. Remember that the image faces in two directions, so that we have the encoded image of a slanted "L" one way, and a slanted "Resh" the other way! (See mountain image.) After all, the two names represent the modern and ancient ways of spelling the name. Perhaps, the "L" and "Resh" are saying the same thing, that is, modern and ancient Rachel/Israel?




It is also interesting to note that Rachel's name means a sheep, and Leah a cow --- both sacrificial animals, and thus agreeing with what those four circles read in the bible code, namely about the burnt offering of the Lamb of God, lifted up like a fiery serpent upon a pole like the sun above, the light of the world.

Those four circles, by the way, represent one large flame above the middle of the menorah/lamp.



The great flame in part reads:

"O' the ascending sacrifice! O' the flame! O' the love
-- the love of God for her!..."


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I am still not sure where you are getting Hagar from in the code. Have I forgotten something?

Yes, the image is that of a fiery serpent bearing a cross, that is in the shape of a fiery Menorah, overlapping a fiery mountain, the text found at the "Burning Bush" passage in Exodus 3-4.

I wish that I could stay and explain more, but I have a church meeting to attend all day. God bless!

Hagar...sorry...l've had Hagar on the brain for days..Her off spring was blessed and God will find a place for them too. Least those who believe it. And yes about the L...I'm just wondering too.

(church..me too)

Just in case you missed my response about the "L" several posts ago, here it is again!

...the servant candle. it is the one that lights all the others in the ceremony. it is also taught
that it represents Yeshua, as the servant and light to all.
signet

Miki, which code are you looking at?
Then I can join in the conversation!

I was struck by Jesus being hung on the Menorah/ Almond Tree.

I.e. crucified with the Law.

And the 8 fold nature of this Menorah.

Here is a rather gloomy example of an 8 fold nature.

The legal system magnified 8 fold for the end times.



The 8 evil spirits of the legalistic generation.

Here are some online Hebrew to English dictionaries that you can use to compare the Hebrew to the codes. I realize that most do not know Hebrew, but at least this way you can see the Hebrew word and look for the Hebrew letters in the code yourself. Like any language, one word may be spelt in several ways (synonyms). So you might have to compare several words before you find the right one. Generally the first Hebrew word listed will be the correct one as it will be the most used translation of the word. Remember that Hebrew reads from right to left, therefore, the best Hebrew word will be found at the right side of the screen, not the left.

The first website tends to be more simple (less definitions).
The second is better (more thorough) but could be confusing.
And the last translates whole sentences.

http://www.lingvozone.com/LingvoSoft-Onlin...brew-Dictionary
http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=
http://www.stars21.com/translator/english_to_hebrew.html

hi,

the Hannukkiah..is eight branches because of the miracle of the 8 day oil supply. the extra candle
is many times at the back ...it still is a servant candle but sometimes appears in the front.
Hannukkah, the Feast of Dedication, also know as the Feast of Lights is spoken of in the NT.

John 10:22 "Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter".


Josephess speaks of this as the Dedication of the Altar.

http://fp.thebeers.f9.co.uk/chanukah.htm

http://members.tripod.com/lastdayscalendar/hannukah.htm

blessings,
signet

Ok... now that does make sense. I was counting the servant lamp as one of the branches which would make it 9. But I see what you are saying! Thanks for posting this.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahisocming

Thank you Dean..about the el! ... and for being patient while l stumble around the codes and my own thinking about things. Thanks for the expanded image and explaining too.

Marcus we are in the Menorah code. Sorry ... I keep forgetting to put the link.
http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-picture...e-riddles-1.htm

You have to scroll through the pages. (sometimes you have to explain things more...l'm slow on the uptake )

Shekel


I can't find the page again because l think you were working on it when l was there and l lost it. But l'm still intrigued by the small cross...so when it says "set me as a seal upon thine heart" Is he talking about the circle with the little cross...the below image..Is that the seal?


And does it correlate to this image?
Sorry...questions pour out..I haven't researched it all because of questions and the for me the time factor.

(The little cross was a personal sign for me few years back...that's why l keep wanting to go with it).

On this page http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-2.htm it says:The small cross in the middle of the menorah:

"Jesus will be wearied because of them." This phrase answers to the later phrase, "The Lord will extinguish them." Wicked men tried to extinguish the lamp (life) of Jesus when they hung Him on the cross, but it is impossible to kill the Prince of Life, (Acts 3:15). Instead, in the end the risen Lord will put out the flame of all His enemies.

Let me slip another question in here..

On this page: http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-6.htm

This image:


You explain it....


I'm interested in where the two sections join in the middle of the pole...I know you explain it on the page but l could use a little extra TLH (Tender loving help) It's a personal thing for me and just something l want to put to rest. Thanks.

And by the way...anybody can join in on the topic...but no fighting. Let's just examine the fine details of the Glory of the Lord!

The Menorah as Serpent as Cross as Almond Tree is an amazing code.

Jesus is hung on this.

Why was Jesus crucified?

Because the Jews said he committed blasphemy by saying he was God.

I.E He broke the Law ( Deuteronomy 6 v 4).

So Jesus put the Law to death, and was put to death by the Law.

The Law is symbolized by the Almond Tree, almonds having budded on Aaron's Rod,
a symbol of the tribe of Levi,
the Levites being the Law enforcers of Israel.

But Aaron's rod was also a serpent.
It was the serpent which devoured all the Pharaoh's magicians' serpents.

What does the Serpent represent?
Satan..................and of course , Sin.
Original sin.

The serpent represents Sin.............and therefore Death also.
Because '1Cr 15:56 The sting of death [is] sin;'

Sin bites, and death is conceived.



So Aaron's rod, which is the rod of the Law, is the master rod of Sin and Death, being the master Serpent.

Which is why the Law is a law of sin and death.



The tree is a curse.........as is the Law......as is the serpent





Oh Miki....the codes are just so beautiful!

And there is so much more to say!!

I never noticed that these two images were similar, so I cannot coment. I agree with your interpretation about the lamp.

Thank you Marcus for the good explanation..

Yes..God shows us so we can share in what he's doing.

I agree with your interpretation of the law, except for the part of Aarons rod budding. Although I could be totally wrong! The context of the event was over who had the priesthood, and Aaron won! I see it as symbolic of the priesthood of Christ by virtue of his death and resurrection, (hence, the priest’s dead rod becomes a living rod). But there may be a connection to what you said, though, since Jesus died for us because of the curse that the law brought upon man.

I also see the tree of the knowledge of good and evil as symbolic of the law, for once they ate from it their consciences sprang to life. The Cross, as I see it, is these two trees in one, (that of the tree of life and of the knowledge of good and evil).

Thanks for everyone’s insights!

Yes, if you look closely, the servant lamp is not one of the seven branches, and is different from the rest, and forms the head of the firey serpent upon the pole, that whoever looks to it is healed because the Light of the World was extinguished for them, as a substitue for their sins.

dear Shekel, I disagree with you !
I must be crazy.

The type of Jesus' priesthood is not the levitical priesthood, but a far older priesthood.


The priest who Levi gave tithes to.



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btw, you said 'the priest’s dead rod becomes a living rod.' Aaron's rod was very much alive before Pharaoh!

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-3.htm



This seems to be something of what l was looking for. But l'm unsure of the image .. sorry..my mind won't contain it all...could you show this image again for sure for me. Thanks

I am not sure by what you mean "Where"?

Do you mean where does it connect in the lamp image? Or what point in the literal surface text in Exodus 4 is it connecting at?

So I will answer both.

The phrase you are referring to forms the middle main branch of the menorah/lamp. It reads, "She is the Queen!" (A menorah is famine in Hebrew, and it represents the bride here, as she reflects His light. This interpretation is borne out by what the menorah says/sings:


However, the middle branch at its middle branches off in two directions as well, just like the Yeshua-Yeshua code you see above it to the left. It reads up, "The King", and reading down from the same middle letter of the middle branch that reads, "Behold Jah! (the Lord)".

The fact that "Yeshua-Yeshua" has the same pattern as this tells me that this second phrase (beside the straight reading of, "She is the queen") is intentional, and not random chance. It also divides the menorah numerically in half at 360 + 360 letters, which are highly symbolic numbers. (See http://www.360calendar.com )



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As for the second response, that is, where in the actual text of the bible that it is located:

Oops! I have been saying that the code is found at Exodus 3 and 4. Make that 2 and 3. The middle of the Yeshua-Yeshua (mountain) code (which intersects the menorah) is located in chapter 3:1 of Exodus, which is the peak of the mountain image, and this is the line of text that forms the lights of the menorah/lamp as well. The following is the actual text where the "Yeshua!-Yeshua!" bible code is found. (By the way, God called to Moses twice from the burning bush, saying, "Moses! Moses!)

Exodus 2:19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew [water] enough for us, and watered the flock.
Exo 2:20 And he said unto his daughters, And where [is] he? why [is] it [that] ye have left the man? call him, that he may eat bread.
Exo 2:21 And Moses was content to dwell with the man: and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter.
Exo 2:22 And she bare [him] a son, and he called his name Gershom: for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.
Exo 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
Exo 2:24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.
Exo 2:25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto [them].

Exo 3:1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, [even] to Horeb. (middle verse of the Yeshua-Yeshua mountain/scroll bible code)

Exo 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.
Exo 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
Exo 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here [am] I.
Exo 3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy ground.
Exo 3:6 Moreover he said, I [am] the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.
Exo 3:7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which [are] in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;
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However, the middle of branch of the Menorah falls 120 letters after the "Yeshua-Yeshua", that is, 120 letters after Exodus 3:7. So the verse of the bible that the middle of the Menorah lands upon is Exodus 3:8, on the phrase: "unto a spacious land..."


The rest of the Menorah covers the following verses up to verse 13 where it says, "What is His name?" Note the verse after that (verse 14)! And compare this to the code, and to the main phrase in the code, namely, "Yeshua!- Yeshua!" Thus, "Yeshua" is His Name!!! The name of "I AM", which agrees with the Yeshua part of the code that reads, "Yeshua is I AM!"

What an awesome God!

Exo 3:8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.
Exo 3:9 Now therefore, behold, the cry of the children of Israel is come unto me: and I have also seen the oppression wherewith the Egyptians oppress them.
Exo 3:10 Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.
Exo 3:11 And Moses said unto God, Who [am] I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?
Exo 3:12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this [shall be] a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.
Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


As far as the numerical value of the middle letter of the middle branch of the menorah, it represents the date: 1565/1566 BC. This is a very important date for many reasons. It is part of a main stream of dates to do with the 430-year pattern in the bible (in the "mirror") that begins with the 430 years that Israel spent in Egypt. (Recall that the text of Exodus 3-4 occurs at the Exodus after the said 430 years.)

Exo 12:40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, [was] four hundred and thirty years.
Exo 12:41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.

For the 430-year pattern see the bible numbers website. http://www.1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.org

The letter after the middle one (downward) would be 120 letters later, representing 120 years later, which is 1446 BC. (1566-120 years/letters = 1446 BC). 1446 BC is the very year of the Exodus!

The Rod was dead so long as it was not a part of a living person. This is why God said to Moses, "What is that IN YOUR HAND?" When it was laid down at best it became a snake. But here, when it is separate from the hand of Aaron (and of Moses indirectly), it is dead, being alone. But then alone in that holy place it again sprang to life the following morning. The almond tree was the first of the trees to bud in Israel, and so became synonymous with renewal after winter, that is, resurrection. What a perfect illustration of the resurrection of Yeshua!

Yes, the priesthood of Melchisedec was older, but nevertheless, the high priesthood of Aaron was still a type of the high priesthood of Jesus. It is not a matter of one or the other, but both.

The writer to the Hebrews is not saying that the priesthood of Melchisedec was the only priesthood that symbolizes Christ, for all the bible is symbolic of Him. But what is being brought out is that the type of priesthood that Christ is of is better than Aarons for various reasons. But this does not mean that the priesthood of Aaron or of the tabernacle that he ministered at has no bearing or symbolic value to do with Christ and His ministry. That would fly in the face of much of the bible, especially the book of Hebrews. The following are the verses in the book of Hebrews that bears on this subject of Jesus' high priesthood for anyone wanting to do a study of it.

(Heb 2:17) Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

(Heb 3:1) Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

(Heb 4:14) Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession.

(Heb 4:15) For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.

(Heb 5:1) For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things [pertaining] to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

(Heb 5:5) So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

(Heb 5:10) Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

(Heb 6:20) Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

(Heb 7:1) For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

(Heb 7:26) For such an high priest became us, [who is] holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

(Heb 8:1) Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

(Heb 8:3) For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore [it is] of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

(Heb 9:7) But into the second [went] the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and [for] the errors of the people:

(Heb 9:11) But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

(Heb 9:25) Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

(Heb 10:21) And [having] an high priest over the house of God;

(Heb 13:11) For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

Thanks Dean...It's a little over my head but that's Ok..I got more than l expected..

I was refering to the the middle of the middle pole of the menorah...In the codes only... but all the other added is good. The numbers are interesting though it's difficult for me to grasp. 430 and 120 sitting next to each other telling a story? The personal point for me was the handle to open a window. (l'm not going to explain it...) Or am l seeing the 430 in the wrong place?




Thanks...

The Levitical priesthood is an hereditary priesthood and potentially worthless in God's eyes.


Melchisedec had neither father nor mother.
it is a spiritual priesthood.

You are welcome to see aaron's rod as a resurrection symbol.

Life out of death.

But to say everything points to Jesus is simply not the full picture dean.

Does Jezebel point to Jesus?
Of course not, she points to control freakery, and an antiChrist spirit.


Likewise I believe that the almonds of Aaron's rod points to 'fruit unto death'.
The Law is a law of sin and death.

In exodus 32 Aaron build a golden statue of the Devil, Baal, and leads the service.

Is Aaron a type of Christ here ??!!!!

I believe that even the negative things in the bible are written to teach us something about Christ, just as the darkness brings out the light. (For how can you understand the one without the other?)

So, Jezebel is the opposite of the bride of Christ, and as such serves as a lesson in contrast, and the bride of Christ teahes us about the work of Christ.

The worship of the beast is likewise contrasted with the worship of the one true God.

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http://www.bible-codes.org/letters-contras...st-lamb-God.htm

Bible Code Prophecy



The Book of Revelation: Book of Contrasts



How Evil Things
Can be Opposite Patterns of Good Things
for Our Instruction



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From:
To: Dean Coombs
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: beast


I know the counterfeit part but I'm talking about, for instance Saddam rising up out of the grave as an opposite of Christ.
Do you have an example that is in surface scripture of evil used as a parable of good?


My Reply:

There are many such contrasting parables, (though not always clear).

Take Ezek. 17 for example: Ezek. 17:9 refers to the vine withering--- a reference to the last king of Judah---however, the bible turns it around in vs. 22 to make Jesus the very last king of Judah who is the vine that is now blessed. Also, vs. 23 says that the birds of every kind will nest under it, etc., which agrees with what Jesus said about the church in his parable in Mark 4:32----which, in turn, is opposite (and seems to refer) to the parable against Nebachadnezzar in Daniel 4:11-12.


But the main point that I make in my writings is that (true) bible codes borrow their imagery chiefly from the Book of Revelation, and in the Book of Revelation, everything has an opposite corresponding parallel. And so it is with this bible-code and how it was fulfilled. (The code contrasts king Belshazzar with King Jesus. However, the code is again fulfilled in modern times in the person of Saddam Hussein, who rebuilt literal Babylon and fancied himself as the father of Belshazzar. Note: these current events are only a shadow of things to come.)

Examples of Contrasts within the Book of Revelation:

---there is a "Lamb" and there is a "beast", the Lamb who was "slain" is risen, and the beast that was slain rises too from his deadly wound;
---the followers of the Lamb have a number and a name on their foreheads and the followers of the beast do too;
---the beast rules over Babylon, but the Lamb over Jerusalem above;
---pits are opened that unleash darkness in contrast to the temple in heaven opened that signals coming justice;
---there is the Trinity of God and there is the trinity of evil in the book of Revelation (i.e., the beast, the false prophet, and the dragon);
---the "7 churches" correspond negatively to the "7 hills" that Rome sits on---the mystery of God vs. the mystery of iniquity;
---there is the two true prophets (two witnesses), and there is the false prophet on behalf of the beast;
---there are the counterfeit miracles of the frogs and of the fire from heaven of the false prophet---(as were also in the days of the plagues of Moses and in the days of Elijah), and there are the true miracles of the two witnesses, also patterned after Moses and Elijah;
---there is the ascension of John ("come up here") and of the Two Witnesses, and there is the ascension of the beast from the pit;
---the 10 wicked kings give the beast their crowns, (17:12-13), (as does the dragon, 13:2) in contrast to the 24 elders who throw their crowns at the feet of the Lamb;
---the "144,000" are "virgins" in contrast to the "harlot" (RCC);
---the harlot is in a desert in contrast to the last chapter of the bible uses language that parallels the garden of Eden;
---the harlot is clothed in "purple and scarlet", but the saints in "white" linen;
---there is the wine of blood that the harlot is drunk on and there is the wine of the wrath of God;
---there are names of blaspheme upon her, but the fathers name and of the Lamb upon His witnesses;
the harlot is "seated" (as if to stay) on this earth in contrast to the Lamb and his followers who are standing (as if to go), (Revelation 14:1);
---the harlot is rich, but his followers are persecuted for a time;
---John wonders at the harlot in horror (17:7) but the wicked wonder at the beast with adoration (17:8);
in the end, the harlot is stripped naked, but the saints are clothed upon with fine linen (17:16, 19:8);
thus, there is the harlot of the beast vs. the wife of the Lamb;
---the harlot is called "Babylon," whereas the bride of Christ is called "New Jerusalem" (21:2);
---the harlot (Babylon) with all her glory is cast down into the sea (hell) (18:21), whereas the New Jerusalem gracefully descends "as a bride adorned for her husband" from heaven to earth in all her glory (21:2), "and there is no more sea" (21:1);
---there is the feast of the birds on the flesh of God's enemies at Armageddon (19:18) in stark contrast to the feast of the marriage supper of the Lamb (19:7);
---there is the lake of fire in contrast to the glassy sea upon which the saints stand in heaven;
---there is the first resurrection of the righteous in contrast to the second resurrection of the damned (20:6);
---even historically, the dimensions of Babylon were known in the days of the Bible to be 120 stadia squared in contrast to Jerusalem at 12,000 stadia squared (21:16);
and so forth.


Hence, the truth is accentuated by the darkness, just as the light of creation only becomes apparent with the backdrop of darkness, and love is made evident when contrasted with hate, etc. God is not the author of evil, but He is glorified over His enemies by using evil to clarify the good by stark contrast before all creation who are watching and learning, even as it says in the book of Romans (3:5-6),

"But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? "But if through my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory..."

God is not mocked, but is honored, despite what the devil does, by bringing out the truth more vividly for all to see and appreciate. And He often does it in such a way so as to be very conspicuous, by means of obvious parallels that are intended to jar our memories of bible passages---line upon line contrasts that even a child can spot. Thus, even the counterfeit shows how wonderful the truth of God really is, especially by their corresponding fruits. The Prince of Life hanging upon a dead tree is the greatest contrast of all, as it is written, "Cursed is he that hangeth upon a tree." And so it is that all cursed things contrast with the blessed One so as to evoke light and glory in our minds as we adore our Savior, Jesus Christ the Lord.

And God has all power to make these contrasts all the more sharp and clear by bringing about such events as having Saddam rise from a pit to go to his doom in contrast to Jesus, who rose from the dead to go to His fathers glory. Praise God for His power and wisdom who is able to make all things bend to His will---even the rebellious, if not in heart then in body by the reluctant bowing of their knee. But, how much more wise is it for us to now yield to His Spirit and become vessels of honor rather than wrath, by obeying the good news of the gift of salvation through Jesus, the substitute Lamb for our sins---made personally efficacious to all that believe and follow Him?

This seems to be something of what l was looking for. But l'm unsure of the image.



I had looked for his pierced side before and was wondering about the image...that's why l've been interested in the torso...but in looking l found other good things as well...like the image of the altar...my goodness...It's hard for me to study and enter in without tears...

Anyway...could you show me where this code is located in the picture? (Shorter cross): "Out from the Lamb comes what?" (Answer: 'Blood and water,' Zechariah 13:1, John 19:34.)
I wasn't sure of the image on the page. THANK YOU!

Here you go Miki!

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-3.htm

I really like these enhanced images!...This has got me reading and studying again. When l go back over the codes and reread...one thing leads to the next and l'm wow-ed all over again...I keep finding things l've never read before...

I'm on to reading the mountain again..and yes...the two candlesticks interpreted to left are amazing.

It's how one thing unfolds into the next...No wonder he can only give us one bite at a time...It would turn our hair white all in one sitting!

By the way Dean..Lots of times you say "WE" when you are offering up information...Does your brother work with you? Just curious...you don't have to tell. Also...I wish you had general dates that the codes were revealed and then posted....on the same page.

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-torah-codes-6.htm




In this image, on this page Dean, you talk about the center post as follows:



Is it without the flame because it asks the question:

http://www.bible-codes.org/menorah-mount-torah-codes-5.htm





Above He refers to himself as the thick cloud. l am reminded of his coming in the clouds...Is this a reference to that?

This is the cloud:



Do you think also that when he refers to the cloud being thick, he is making reference to the amount of information in this one image!?

Yes, the picture bible codes can send your mind reeling! He is awesome! And you encourage me by your interest. Nothing has discouraged me more than disinterest.

The "we" I speak of is the literary we of humility. Its hard to say "I" all the time, it sounds proud. Even Paul used the literary "we" at times in the bible I once read. When I say "we" sometimes I mean, Jesus and myself, because His help in all this is so very real to me.

OK..

And by the way...I'm really interested so maybe you will regret it!

http://www.bible-codes.org/old-prophecies_4c-bible-codes.htm


Is this us too?

By that l mean first humiliation then glorification...

I am glad that you use the "We" that makes my heart sing! You are truly blessed Dean... and all the Work that the Lord has done through you is amazing! It literally blows my mind as well. I am one of those people... that really does not need it... yet when the Lord reveals Himself in another way as this I just stand in Awe! I said a few days ago, that I have found such deepness in the Word of God... so many layers to pull back, and the codes I see are just a whole other section.... with all there layers to expose as well. I am in complete Awe of my Lord and His Greatness... Thank you for being His servant and for your Ministry that He has called you too.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

On the Menorah code, I can't get past the second part.

Can anyone help?

Give a link...be specific...Please..

That's a good thought!

What exactly do you mean?