"I will forgive my enemies, having compassion, forgiving those who are but stubble and dust a second time."

"I will choose a circumcised people (i.e., Jews), even many peoples for myself (i.e., Gentiles)."

The God-Man will come forth and instruct unruly men (like Cain). This man of God will be smitten to death, but his death will be in the will of God. People will give up hope as grief overwhelms them.

The God-Man is appointed to save, this man of sorrow. The Glory of God shall come down from heaven and teach men that by means of His death He shall comfort those who mourn.

1) the extremity or prominent part of a thing, edge, skirt, margin
a) the fringe of a garment
in the NT a little appendage hanging down from the edge of the mantle or cloak, made of twisted wool c) a tassel, tuft: the Jews had such appendages attached to their mantles to remind them of the law

Val , you are talking about Simeon, and the downfall and rising of many..


I was thinking of Jesus ( in Malachi) arising as the Sun of righteousness,

and wondered what you thought.

When Jesus renounced Israel, and following the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70,
the sun set on Israel.

The Church, and the gentiles, have been walking in the light

Isa 9:2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light:

and Israel has been thrown into darkness

Jhn 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.


and have been going through their own dark night.

Gen 15:12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

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Prophecy revolves around national Israel,
which is why the timing of Jesus' return is
'like a thief in the night.'

and Jesus' return is measured in the night watches.

Luk 12:38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find [them] so, blessed are those servants.

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So while the Church is in daylight, Israel is going through the night, 4 watches, anything up to 4000 years.

But at the end of the night the sun rises,
its downfall is over,
and it starts rising.

....
........the sun of righteousness rises on the Jewish people

and as everyone knows, the sun rises in the East, and shines to the West

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

I guess in the sense of Jesus coming to fulfill the Law then I can see what you are saying....

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, andwrite it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

He never ceases to continually bring light to this simple mind of mine. smile.gif What a perfect picture of our beautiful Saviour!

I was just dicussing what "forgiving what is dust a second time means", and how it relates to Joseph --- and here is your post!

This is what we noticed, that Joseph is a type of Christ, and Joseph forgave his brothers a second time. The second time was 17 years later when Jacob died at the age of 147 (7 x 7 x 3).

Compare the two times:

Gen 45:4 And Joseph said unto his brethren, Come near to me, I pray you. And they came near. And he said, I [am] Joseph your brother, whom ye sold into Egypt.
Gen 45:5 Now therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yourselves, that ye sold me hither: for God did send me before you to preserve life.


Gen 50:16 And they sent a messenger unto Joseph, saying, Thy father did command before he died, saying,
Gen 50:17 So shall ye say unto Joseph, Forgive, I pray thee now, the trespass of thy brethren, and their sin; for they did unto thee evil: and now, we pray thee, forgive the trespass of the servants of the God of thy father. And Joseph wept when they spake unto him.
Gen 50:18 And his brethren also went and fell down before his face; and they said, Behold, we [be] thy servants.
Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for [am] I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as [it is] this day, to save much people alive.

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The meaning of the names code from Adam to Jesus agrees with this interpretation because the rest of the code speaks along this line of thing.
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I also noticed that when the bible says, "From dust you are and to dust you shall return", but that it literally reads, "You are dust, and to dust you shall return." (Some translations translate it literally as it should be, such as the NIV and KJV.)

This agrees with the acrostic that literally reads "...forgiving what is dust a second time." I have translated the acrostic as "from dust" because the Hebrew allows for it, but even if one would contend that point, the bible likewise literally calls Adam "dust", not just "from dust". A small point perhaps, but important for the skeptics.

Even Gen. 2:7 reads that God made man dust from the ground, rather than making man from dust from the ground.

(Darby) And Jehovah Elohim formed Man, dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and Man became a living soul.

(HOT) וייצר יהוה אלהים את־האדם עפר מן־האדמה ויפח באפיו נשׁמת חיים ויהי האדם לנפשׁ חיה׃

See the Jewish nation follows after the wrong thing too... because they drifted away and become entangled in their own waywardness..just like l did..When they see the reality of what they've followed after will they turn to him like l did..with weeping and GREAT JOY? Some...but not all..

The "temple" of the glasses (i.e., the rod used to hang glasses on the ears) reads/reeds, "Eyer, eyes north --- hope!" She is looking upward toward the north to north-west sky, where a storm is rising. (This is Russia and Europe as seen from the direction of the sea of Galilee.) She is crying. (Lit. reads, "Eye cry a tear!", which letters form the shape of "a tear" below her eye, --- even a fountain of tears flowing in both directions. The Hebrew word for "eye" also means "fountain".)

She is looking upward toward the north to north-west sky, where a storm is rising.

QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 4 2007, 01:16 PM)
The Pacific NW sure has gotten hit by what the weather people call...The pineapple express. It comes up from Hawaii bringing lots of warm wind and rain. In my little area we have mostly dodged the bullet but l think some on this forum have really taken a hit. There are mudslides, road wash outs and all the huge amounts of snow that fell in the mountains last week have come down to drown the lowlands.

Last night l heard it was the 2nd biggest rainfall in recorded history. Toppled trees cut power and stopped rescue operations.





QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 4 2007, 01:21 PM)


It's headed across the country.



meteorologist Brad Colman with the National Weather Service in Seattle.

The jet stream of subtropical air hits the mountains here and "wrings all the moisture out," he said. "It's like a fire hose aimed right at us."





QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 4 2007, 02:22 PM)
Yes it is Julie but l was also thinking along these lines.


QUOTE(Messiahiscoming @ Nov 25 2007, 06:45 AM)
This week the Lord brought to mind the passage in Psalm107 again... only this time in a different light. I was thinking about how the 1st verse of this book is about giving thanks. Then right before the passage where the reversed nuns appear you have verse 22.

Psalm 107:22
22 And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing.

So today the Lord laid this passage once again to my heart..... then I started thinking about the Peace Summit at Annapolis on Tuesday. So I went to verse 27 to see what it read.

Psalm 107:27
27They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.

Could it be? If Psalms 107 is playing out in 2007

So I grabbed my calandar and Bam I could not believe that Thanksgiving fell on the 22nd, just as the Thanksgiving verse is in 22! Dani and I have always felt that this passage is dealing with Israel. So could it be that this is a reference to what is about to transpire?

After I let that absorb I was lead to look up the name Annapolis.... here is the 1st thing I pulled up.

http://www.elook.org/dictionary/annapolis.html

Definition:

1. [noun] state capital of Maryland; site of the United States Naval Academy
   Synonyms: Annapolis, capital of Maryland

Wow I was amazed I had no idea that this was the site of the US Naval Academy! Verse 23 of Psalm 107 is where the Nuns begin and it just happens to speak of ships and the sea!

Psalm 107:23
23They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;

Not sure if this has anything to do with it all but I just found it very interesting.

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming






QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 6 2007, 11:50 AM)
Well...here we are one year later..The Northwest is ravaged by a storm and it's Hanukkah again..This string has discussed the hidden light of Jacob as God used this storm last year to demonstrate to me what it is like to be without power while all around you seem to be going about business as usual.

Now the tables are turned... And will be turned...

The NW has been devastated again...It's worse than last year here in the NW.

Last year l lost my power while everyone around us got theirs back. You can read the string if you like. This year everyone around us is devastated and yet my little community is spared.

This storm will probably end up being the greatest rainfall in this area in recorded history.

Once again l'm reminded of Jacob.

There's coming a time he will be spared while all around him are in darkness.





QUOTE(jhamner @ Dec 6 2007, 02:01 PM)
I started to post awhile ago- but didn't. Thought perhaps I was being too "deep". But I can't shake it... so I'll post. gulp.

As I read about the Pacific storm today- I and saw a uterus. It contracted like a ripple... like a WAVE.

I remembered a stalleite image showing the Pineapple Express- when the storm began. It looks like the first half of a contraction on a monitor. Like the first part right before the crest/peak.
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=134601

Stage 1, stage 2... today the storm is in stage 8. It grows and dies- like a contraction experienced by a laboring woman.

I didn't post until I saw this last piece, Miki. When I read it, I was astonished at the exactness of the timing.

Timings of contractions are evenly spaced. First 10 minutes apart. Then 7. Then 4 and 3.

Seems like a year apart is pretty evenly spaced. And then there is the Hannukah holiday to add emphesis.

I could go nuts with the timing. 1 day = 1000 years. But that would be carrying it too far.





QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 6 2007, 02:38 PM)
Julie! I'm glad you posted because l was just about to come on line and talk about contractions and l came to this post! You've added dimension to what l was going to say.

In my personal life l have been experiencing contractions...Every time l've hoped it would be over it comes again...another wave worse than the time before...

I suddenly was swept back to the birth of my first son. I remember in the birthing process l reached a place where l just didn't think l could do it anymore.. but of course what we think and what is going to happen regardless ... are two different things. But my body was giving up wanting to push because l didn't know how to "hold" the baby in place. It kept slipping back. At that point they called in the mid-wife. With simple instruction l was able to press through.

God has used the Holy Spirit or Christ as a type of Mid-wife at another time in one of my personal ministries. When all seems lost he shows up.

I think of how long Israel has tried to stay the course...Not that they are doing everything right because without instruction from the source all would be lost...When the mid-wife comes she stays until the baby is birthed.

It struck me how mankind just loves to formalize and systemize.

But is that the New Covenant way?

'Take neither scrip......'

http://www.bible-codes.org/DaVinci-code-Ar...umerology-4.htm



What the Codes will accomplish for the good of man?



Satan always loses in the end, and so, for a time, God's true sign will be rejected as evil by the masses because of the devils tricks, but in the end they will serve the purpose God sent them, which are to be among the many signs on that great day of God Almighty when "they will look upon Him whom they have pierced" (Zechariah), and "my God will come", and destroy His enemies "by the brightness of His coming."

At that time the eyes of Israel will be opened and will see that what all the prophets spoke of concerning the sufferings of Messiah and the glories that would follow---and that the billions of collective rabbinic-man hours which they have spent looking for bible codes over the centuries, yet did not see Yeshua---Suddenly the veil is torn! Suddenly the veil will drop off from their eyes and they will know from both the surface text and sub-text (both of which they study) that Jesus (Yeshua) is He! It is He!

They will mourn when they see that every jot and tittle speaks about Him! They will marvel at how they could be so blind. They will know that the blindness was terrible judgment sent by God because of their willful rebellion. They will mourn bitterly, (as Jacob's acrostic also says).

Then Yeshua will come!

He will put His foot upon the mount of Olives. The mount will spit. (As says the prophets.) His repentant people will go into the mountain valley while their enemies are annihilated.
Then they will come up, a resurrected people, and so will all the dead. For as they turn to Him and come up from the earth (literally speaking), then God will bring up all those that sleep in Him. "For if the casting away of them means the enriching of the Gentiles, what will the receiving of them be but life from the dead?" (Romans.)

And thus, the hope of Israel is bound up with the hope of mankind, for when they arise from their spiritual death then that will signal the end of the age and the resurrection of the physical dead.

There will be a number of Jews marked ahead of the time by the Lord---the 144,000. These will experience their own mini-crisis and revelation of Messiah and turning to Him. They will prepare the way for the bulk of their brethren to follow, who, 3.5 years later will in mass have their eyes opened as well.

The picture bible codes and acrostics, etc., will be an important sign to them. It will be one of many signs to them, but an important one since they have searched for bible codes a 1000 years diligently without real success. It is their language. It is their methodology (hermeneutic). And it is their sign. We lowly Gentiles are blessed ahead of them with it so as to provoke them to jealousy. But it is their sign and the glory points to Him who is their Glory, Yeshua the Messiah.

16 But I have heard of thee, that thou canst give interpretations, and dissolve doubts; now if thou canst read the writing, and make known to me the interpretation thereof, thou shalt be clothed with purple, and have a chain of gold about thy neck, and shalt be the third ruler in the kingdom.

Lyrics:
White as snow, white as snow
Though my sins were as scarlet
Lord, I know, Lord, I know
That I'm clean and forgiven

Through the power of Your blood
Through the wonder of Your love
Through faith in You
I know that I can be
White as snow

Nov 5 2004, 06:44 AM Post #1

Octopus Dream:


I dreamt that President Bush was hunting Octopus. He'd sent out fishing boats and had gotten what seemed to be one small arm but nobody was talking much about it.

Then he got a great big huge arm and l could clearly see the severed arm laying on the ground. They were cutting it up and selling it.

Then l could see the fishing boats go out again. People were protesting against it.

Then l woke up from the dream. I got up. It was only 2:30 in the morning. I put on my robe and laid back down for a while. As l was laying there thinking about the dream the phone rang! It was 2:30! It must be a prank call... I answered hello quietly. They didn't say anything. Then a man started saying "Hey! Hey! But l didn't answer l just waited. I could hear a lot of people in the back ground and a women speaking in an oriental language. Then my phone started beeping as the battery was low and l hung up.

Jesus walking on the water
http://bible-codes.org/english_KJV-picture_bible_code.htm

Shekel,

I have a question concerning this portion from your website: It's the part l highlight in color.



Will the 3.5 years be in the beginning or the middle of the seven years?

I noticed the see through house...glass house..? Is on the tip of the wing of the owl in the Kjv code.

(He has healing in his wings)...the tassels...the bleeding women...

Also the house is on the wing tip of the owl that is on the top...I'm reminded of the war in the heavenlies over Israel.

Is Israel described as a whore house?... We even see that thing coming out of the house in the image.

Jesus has healing in his wings...so though our sins were as scarlet they will be white as snow...Israel too.

l'm remembering my green house which the Lord showed me as his protected work over Jacob...

little things he was still to do

"All have to do is move the potting table"

Which is in fact what l did. I moved the potting table to the center of the greenhouse because it had been 'set aside' l moved it to the center because l was about to start using it. I used bricks to get it on a firm foundation...being careful to balance each leg just right...Each foot had to be dug out and as l dug in the dry soil l found potsherds....

Anyway...many know the drill...this image out my kitchen window and back yard has gone on and on..

and by the way..last night I dreamt l looked out the kitchen window and there was 3 to 4 feet of snow...A white out and blizzard...the antithesis of Adonaicole's winter walk...
I have a feeling the cleansing will be stormy...It was the true meaning of being snowed in...In the dream l went to the front and looked out but there was only a few inches...but when l went to the back it was an impossible snow storm..

I don't want to make something of the codes that isn't there...but l don't think l'm scripturally too much off. The image only reminds me of things...doesn't mean it is.

One thing that I have never explained very well about the KJV Bible Code is that this image by means of its numeric overlaps the other Hebrew codes in an awesome way. Thus, it is not just that the skip sequence of this code is remarkable, being 12000 less 6+6+6 letters, times 12 for a total of 144000 letters less 6x6x6 letters, but it is the position of this image in the text. It had to be the correct number of letters from the beginning of the New Testament to be able to overlap the Hebrew codes in just the perfect spot, and it had to be at 12000 skips. Both had to be true of the code for this overlapping to overlap the same way as the rest of the Hebrew encoded images overlap. This is no small feat!

If it were not for this exact and most remarkable numeric, I would have doubts about the KJV code myself. But the odds of this numeric being mere chance are very small, perhaps millions to one.

Having said this, the real marvel is that the KJV image in our English Gentile bible is overlapping the Hebrew images in the Hebrew bible, like a branch ingrafted into the Hebrew olive tree. I think that is really neat!
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Currently, I am still working on the video. It will be short, but my time is mostly being spent on getting to know the software better for video, and the Lord helped me put the acrostic code into a song. I will be putting that song at the end of the video. May God use it all for His glory, and may He help me to finish the work He has given me.

God bless you all!

the 144000 will begin to win their fellow Israelites after the first 4.5 years of the tribulation

If it were not for this exact and most remarkable numeric, I would have doubts about the KJV code myself. But the odds of this numeric being mere chance are very small, perhaps millions to one.

Having said this, the real marvel is that the KJV image in our English Gentile bible is overlapping the Hebrew images in the Hebrew bible, like a branch ingrafted into the Hebrew olive tree. I think that is really neat!

I was viewing the thread titled : Understanding The Codes, One piece at a time

When I read, the commentary about the glass house, is on the tip of the wing . . .
It reminded me of the Wing of the Temple, posting . . .

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry139499
crownsevenalphabet Yesterday, 12:05 PM Post #1

Wing Of The Temple = Lamed = 30, Daniel 9:27 holds the numerical 30 code



http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=14203&hl=
QUOTE(Miki @ Dec 29 2007, 06:02 AM)

I noticed the see through house...glass house..? Is on the tip of the wing of the owl in the Kjv code.

(He has healing in his wings)...the tassels...the bleeding women...

Also the house is on the wing tip of the owl that is on the top...I'm reminded of the war in the heavenlies over Israel.

Is Israel described as a whore house?... We even see that thing coming out of the house in the image.

Jesus has healing in his wings...so though our sins were as scarlet they will be white as snow...Israel too.