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Miki

Nov 8 2007, 08:13 AM

I'd like to understand terms better and how they appy. In gardening they use Latin names. Also common names. Can we try to use common terms in order to have a better understanding? Please... I'm weary of complex titles that keep the masses in ignorance in order to sway and control the fold and subtly conform them to their way of thinking. I don't want this to be a scriptural debate though l'm not opposed to discussing in these terms. First l would like to simply understand the terms and simple meaning.

I'd like to start one bite at a time.

The following is from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_of_Ch...cal_differences

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The Millennium Chapter 20: Three views

Premillennialism: Christ's Second coming before a literal thousand years, preceded by a gradual deterioration of human society and the expansion of evil. Can be divided into two main interpretations:

(I didn't even know there was a division here.)

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Dispensational and Historic Premillennialism.

Dispensational Premillennialism: The return of Christ is preceded by the secret rapture of Christians, followed by the rise of Antichrist to rule during a literal three and a half year tribulation then Armageddon, followed by a millennial reign of the Jews centred in restored Jerusalem.

Historic Premillennialism: The rapture of the church happens after a period of tribulation, with the church being caught up to meet Christ in the air and accompany him to earth to share in his (literal or figurative) thousand year rule.

I don't understand the Historic view point. And please...I don't want to debate if its true or not. I just want to know what they are saying. Can anyone add light on this? I don't understand how the historic is so different than the dispensational view?

Messiahiscoming

Nov 8 2007, 10:33 AM

Miki... I am not quite sure what it means either, but I did find this site. Thought you might want to check it out. It seems to me that these are the "official terms" the Historic view.. are those that believe that we will endure the Tribulation... and the Dispentional view is the Pre-Trib Rapture view. I was trying to get the Preterist view mixed with the Historical view. Isn't the Preterist view the ones that believe that things Historically have already been fulfilled? Whew... so many views!

http://www.dashhouse.com/sermons/1999/Classes/990124.htm

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

dennis mann

Nov 8 2007, 10:40 AM

i think

Historic is what we commonly believe.............after the Trib, Jesus and Christians will rule and reign for 1000 years, ..........then we go into AN ENDLESS PERFECT SINLESS DAY (ETERNITY)

DISPENSATIONAL sounds like the JEWS (not christians) will reign,,,,,,,,,,,which is not what we commonly believe (in fact, i've never heard of that theory)

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