I don't remember who it was, but some person or persons on this board wanted to argue that magicians such as Chris Angel, were using mysterious Santanic powers to perform his tricks, but of course, they wouldn't lestin me remind them how these are actually performed, with plexiglass, and other 'magic' props and robotic technologies...using technology to perform 'mircacles' is nothing new...ancient Romans and Greeks had automatic doors on their temples that would open and close on comand of the priest, seemingly, as answer to prayer to a pagan god, when in reality, a steam powered system of pipes and pulleys opened the door when a fire beneath the floor heated water in a large cauldron....and this was even accompained by the sound of disembodied trumpet playing, which was little more than the sound of steam pressure through the pipes....I think Christians makes themselves look a little stupied when they attribute Satanic powers to something clearly engineered....now the anti-christ is a different story, he will use technology (mark of the beast) and demonic powers...and there will be no doubts as to the source....but magicans? Give me a break...save that demonic power explanation for witches, diviners, and their kind...


Chris Angel uses props, not demons, here how his tricks are performed...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4R2d1r8zzM

Good!

But does he admit it? Because if he left the question open, many "weak souls" could be fooled!
The result would still remain the same: good entertainment!

I agree to a certain extent... but some of his mind related stunts are kind of creapy... makes one think he hears from the dark side.

Caneman

I have to disagree with you guys.

The props they are showing you is actually a Lie.
If they speak the truth - let them do what he has done where he did it.

I am sorry to dissapoint you - I have looked deeply into Chriss Angel and all of the so-called "Criss Angel Revealed" videos, and I am convinced beond doubt that this is Black Magic.

Whatever...sorry to disagree with you, but calling his trickery a deception and saying its actually demons, seems like denial of the physical evidence of the truth, and saying what you believe is true without any proof otherwise...magicans are entertainers only, even Chris Angel would tell you that... mind tricks are little more then applying statisical data and the use of suggestion...just because someone uses deception / misdirection doesn't mean that its direct from a Satanic source...man's schemes are deceptive in and of themselves...

Flyingsquirrle, you have many good things in your posts, and I respect you for your honesty when it comes to the things you have got revieled - but let´s be honest and always truthfull when we discuss important subjects like this one.

Now - take a second look at the Video you claim proves this to be a trick - it does not prove anything. It is just an oppinion from a guy who don´t know anything - His video is garbage - It would not hold up in court.

I can also draw a theory - but it does not mean that it is the truth.


You know better Flying one But it is OK - You learn along the way - just be carefull that you know evidence from lies - because a lot of people out there is making up new lies because the things arround them have started to scare them.

See the video one more time - for my sake, please

God bless you

I don't have to! Seen it many times... There is a very simple test to determine if the tricks he does are performed by demons or by man...go ahead and try it...!

Say a prayer casting out the demons supposedly helping the magican, if demons are behind it, he will imediately announce the end of his career ! If not, and he can still perform the tricks, demons were not behind it after all, just man!


I know from experience, I said a prayer to cast out any demons that may have been helping the magican, and he was still able to perform the same trick afterward, he then taught how it was done and that anybody can do it, it was so simple...the key was distracting the audience by drawing their attention to another part of the room while you quickly switched props and bingo...you got a magic trick...same old same old thing people have been doing thousands of years

Now I've seen this done to a diviner, a predictor of the future, and after the demon was cast out, she lost her ability to predict the future...that is how it was proved to be the work of demons.

FOR SAFETY SAKE TEST WHAT YOU ARE ALLEGING!

I have watched more than 100 different videos of Criss Angel performing stunts no man has seen before.

I have compared them all to what I know is written in the Bible - and I have compared them all to what I have seen done before by illusionists.

Even magician illusionists are saying they cannot perform what criss angel performs.

I have studied this case for many weeks, it is in my level of interest.

I think you are wrong on this matter - but don´t take it personally - I am a teacher of dividing truth from false.

And I base my truth in the Holy Bible.


God bless you and open your eyes.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.


Also, this /quote :

I think you are wrong on this matter - but don´t take it personally - I am a teacher of dividing truth from false.

And I base my truth in the Holy Bible.

and many you have made lately, this verse has come to mind.

2 Corinthians 11:17
In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool.

Does what I write seem foolish to you armywife02?

Prove me wrong if I am a fool - I bid you.

IF you perform the test I suggested, and cast out Chris Angels little performing demons, and he can't perform any more, you could make fools of us! You don't even have to be present with him to cast out demons, just do it in prayer! If you cast out his demons with prayer, and he can still do the same tricks, his only help is tech support!

Don´t you know what you ask of me? You want me to pray to God that he delays the end.

It is written:

Revelation 16:14

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty


It is not in my power to pray out against what is written, therefore I cannot do as you wish of me.

God allows this to take place on the world scene - I am sorry if you did not know this, it should be common knowledge amongs Gods people, but I guess you forgot that.

Casting out demons doesn't delay God's calender...we are comanded to cast out demons. The angel puts one foot on the land and the other foot on the sea swore by Him who lives forever and ever that there will be no delay ( see Revelation).

Don't you remember reading in the Bible, that a slave woman was following around the apostles, and she had made much money for her owners due to an evil spirit that helped her predict the future, and when the demon was cast out, she couldn't perform her tricks anymore?

I think you are afraid of being wrong and are just making excuses...heck, if you don't do it, I will right now, and if he doesn't announce the end of his carreer in magic in the next few days...we know demons were not behind it...

Heavenly Father,
In Your Name and in the Name of Son Jesus and in the Name of the Holy Spirit cast all the demons influencing or supporting Chris Angel out; if any demonic power is behind Chris Angel's carreer, utterly break it, and expose this man and the supernatural forces behind his performances. Let him come to YOU LORD, seeking and turning to You, realizing he was on the wrong path, and that he needs to be on the path of righteousness, AMEN!

Now if Chris Angel is utterly ruined because of my prayer, then, I will owe you an apology...I'm not afraid to be proven wrong....

I don´t think the LORD will delay the end because of you disputing me on the issue - you shall not put the LORD, your GOD to the test.

Don´t be so hasty, take your time to understand some things before you move to conclutions - remember that God is in control - and if you live by the Word, you will be alive and see something really cool when Jesus comes back in person to fight those people you are talking about.

Time is a key - understand that everything that is happening before our eyes has allready been written in the Holy Bible - so be faithfull to the LORD, and wait for him to come, and in the meantime - see if you can save some people arround you so that you have a crowd with you where you are going

As you read in my prayer, I prayed that Chris Angel will see the truth and choose the light....

Chris Angel knows what path he has choosen - he is very aware that he will not enter the Kingdom of heaven.

Please try and understand that the evil powers comming to us from underneath will increase a great deal over the next years - It has to happend that way, because it is written.

Luke 21,28

And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Meaning - wait for the LORD

God bless you flying one

In Christ
Togarma.