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From Spaceweather.com:

EXPLODING COMET: When the core of Comet 17P/Holmes erupted on Oct. 23rd, at first the comet looked like a dimensionless point of light in the night sky. But now "the comet's disk is visible to the naked eye," reports Doug Zubenel of Lincoln County, Kansas. The expansion of the debris cloud is shown in this doublet of images taken Oct. 25th and 26th by amateur astronomer Wah! of Hong Kong using an 8-inch LX200 telescope:



What is happening to Comet Holmes? It remains a mystery--one that you can behold with your naked eyes. Step outside after sunset, face north, and look for the growing and fuzzy "star" in the thigh of Perseus: sky map. Comet Holmes is similar in brightness to the stars of the Big Dipper, very easy to see!

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Where did this comet come from?

From LiveLeak.com

‘Head Of Satan Star’ Mystery Comet Illuminates a Millionfold Space Thrill - Post Media Reply
An object of note is a comet that apparently exploded Wednesday, brightening suddenly by nearly a millionfold. The comet, called 17P/Holmes, can now be seen with the naked eye, according to reports. The comet should be visible high in the northeast sky soon after sunset and may appear more yellow than most stars.

More interesting to our discussion today is that both Comet Hyakutake and Comet Hale-Bopp came from the ancient constellation Perseus, and, in fact, intersected during their crossing of the heavens the Star Algol, and which is known to the Arabian peoples as the ‘Demon Star’, and to the Hebrew peoples, Rosh Satan, and which means The Head of Satan.

It is important to note that the exact intersecting point of Comets Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp was between the eyes of the Medusa head that Perseus was holding in his left hand, and which thereafter he wielded as a weapon until giving it to Athena who placed it upon her shield.

Today ,The Head of Satan Star is sending another, and according to the ancient prophecies the final, sign to our Earth from the constellation Perseus with the sudden, and mysterious, brightening of Comet 17P/Holmes by a factor of over 1 million times.

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Why is this important?

From The sign of the Anti-christ:

This was published in May 1997:

Apparently Bob Wadsworth, who has done intensive work plotting, and studying comets Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake discovered something interesting. A coincidence! While plotting the paths of Hyakutake during the month of April 96, against the projected path of comet Hale-Bopp during the month of April 97 an almost perfect [cross] is formed where they intersect at almost an 90 degree angle. Furthermore, both comets crossed this point on the EXACT same day of the year (April 11th). In other words, on April 11th 1996, comet Hyakutake occupied the same spot in the sky that comet Hale-Bopp did on April 11th 1997.

Now, where is this point in the sky? This point is in the constellation of Perseus, who holds the severed head of the Gorgon, Medusa. This intersection point just happens to be the middle of the head of Medusa at the eye. This eye is the star ALGOL. Therefore, in Greek mythology these two comets intersect on the same day, in different years, forming an almost perfect cross in the eye of Medusa!

Traditionally, according to the Starlore Handbook, ALGOL is the MOST MALEVOLENT star of the heavens. More interesting is what the Hebrews called this star. In Hebrew it is known as the HEAD OF SATAN!

John Leary messages, and Patricia Talbot think a comet will be a sign of the coming of Antichrist. John Leary message excerpt: Thursday, March 27, 1997: (Holy Thursday) Jesus said:

"My son, this comet that you have seen tonight with your own eyes, is the sign of the Anti-Christ's coming. I have told you before to look to the skies for the signs of things to come. I have also told you that I, and not the Anti-Christ, would produce this sign of his coming. As you see the darkness come after, you will know his reign will be brief, but darkness will have its day much like the men I allowed to crucify Me for your sake."
The following is a quote from "The Witness of the Stars" by E. W. Bullinger, pp. 116-117, concerning the star Algol:
"It is a most remarkable phenomenon that so many of these enemies should be characterized by variable stars! But this head of Medusa, like the neck of Cetus, has one. AlGol is continually changing. In about 69 hours it changes from the 4th magnitude to the 2nd. During four hours of this period it gradually diminishes in brightness, which it recovers in the succeeding four hours; and in the remaining part of time, invariably preserves its greatest lustre. After the expiration of this time its brightness begins to decrease again. Fit emblem of our great enemy, who, "like a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour" (I Peter 5:8); then changing into a subtle serpent (Genesis 3:1); then changing again into an angel of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14). "Transforming himself" continually, to devour, deceive, and destroy." (end of article)
I love coincidences, unfortunately our own conclusions of what the coincidences mean is mere subjective speculation. But, if that is all we have, then speculation will suffice until the evidence gets harder. Yet, we do have Hebrew lore that the birth of Jesus was heralded by a rare conjunction of planets in the sign of Pieces, and that a comet appeared three years before His birth. (The star of Bethlehem does not meet the criteria of a comet, supernova, or a planetary conjunction, so unless it was a real angel, then it remains a true mystery.)
In searching for something meaningful about the Antichrist which has to do with April 11 (1996 & 1997), except for it occurring near the Passover season, little relevance is determined.

But one more coincidence appears to be in store. Again April 11 is involved. No, not April 11 of 1996, or of 1997; it occurs in 1998. Yes, next year the Passover occurs on April 11.

The interesting aspect about all this is that we can now virtually prove that the [great] tribulation [a 3.5 year (42-month) period] will begin in the Passover season. (This information will be released in a new lecture coming in June.)

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A little history about the star Agol:

"The Demon Star"
Human history has not been kind to this star. Homer wrote of Algol in the Iliad: "...the Gorgon's head, a ghastly sight, deformed and dreadful, and a sight of woe". Some common names for Algol are The Demon, the Demon Star, the Blinking Demon, the Ghoul, and the Spectre's Head. Sounds rather more like members of a hard rock goth band than a beautiful astronomical object. The earliest known maligning of this star is from the Arabian name Ri'B al Ohill, the Demon's Head. We also have Al Ghul meaning Mischief-maker. In Hebrew it is called Rosh ha Sitan, Satan's Head, and also Lilith, Adam's legendary demonic first wife (predecessor to Eve) according to Babylonian myth. 17th century maps referred to it as Caput Larvae, a translation of "The Spectre's Head". The Chinese referred to it as Tseih She, the Piled-up Corpses. Even astrologers refer to it as the worst star in the heavens to be involved with. More recently, the name Algol has been given to a violent video game. What does a star have to do to get respect?

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Not to sound alarmist or anything, but it is VERY interesting that this comet has come from the same area of the sky as Algol, ad is following in the same general path as Hale-Bop. It is visible to the unaided eye, and has made a grand entrance by exploding (becoming a million times brighter - perhaps an allusion to how satan likes to fancy himself as the 'angel of light'?). I am suggesting that this is a sign that JESUS wants us to look for. Not astrology, but astronomy. The fact that GOD uses signs in the heavens to alert us to things is very clear. JESUS was heralded not just by angels, but by a star that the wise men followed. Constellations are discussed several times in Job. Look it up. Perhaps this is a sign that the LORD wants some of us to pay attention to.

I invite serious thought to explore this event. It will go mostly unnoticed by the world.

Blessings of peace from GOD THE FATHER, and from HIS SON JESUS CHRIST

Wow Todd that is just something! My 1st thought as I began to read this was these few verses.....

Revelation 12:7-17

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


I am not sure..... but this was a really interesting read!

Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming

Sorry folks I did not realize until now this topic was already started a couple of days ago. I am late to the party!

Anyway, it needs to be looked at. I think it is a significant event since something like this just does not happen very often at all - to have a celestial body increase in brightness over 1,000,000 (million) times is an amazing and rare thing.

Keep looking up!

gr82bsaved

Leaving some clues and evidence below, Gavrial said,

He WAS REVEALED on October 12, 2007 didn't we say NO ONE would get it? Also this comet 'lite up' on day 1948, his birth year, in the 2300 day coundown to 0ctober 9, 2008.

Shall I give ANOTHER CLUE

AL gol-GORgon-AL-gol-GORgon

This is a sign that Yeshua wants us to look for, His people gained their independence in 1948! I'll post of it tomorow, Gavrial

CLUES AND EVIDENCE

This point is in the constellation of Perseus, who holds the severed head of the Gorgon, Medusa. This intersection point just happens to be the middle of the head of Medusa at the eye. This eye is the star ALGOL. Traditionally, according to the Starlore Handbook, ALGOL is the MOST MALEVOLENT star of the heavens.

John Leary messages, and Patricia Talbot think a comet will be a sign of the coming of Antichrist.

John Leary message excerpt: Thursday, March 27, 1997: (Holy Thursday) Jesus said:

"My son, this comet that you have seen tonight with your own eyes, is the sign of the Anti-Christ's coming. I have told you before to look to the skies for the signs of things to come. I have also told you that I, and not the Anti-Christ, would produce this sign of his coming. As you see the darkness come after, you will know HIS REIGN WILL BE BRIEF, but darkness will have its day much like the men I allowed to crucify Me for your sake."

I love coincidences, unfortunately our own conclusions of what the coincidences mean is mere subjective speculation. But, if that is all we have, then speculation will suffice until the evidence gets harder. In searching for something meaningful about the Antichrist which has to do with April 11 (1996 & 1997), except for it occurring near the Passover season, little relevance is determined.

A little history about the star Agol:

"The Demon Star"

Homer wrote of Algol in the Iliad: "...the Gorgon's head, a ghastly sight, deformed and dreadful, and a sight of woe". Even astrologers refer to it as the worst star in the heavens to be involved with.

More recently, the name Algol has been given to a violent video game. What does a star have to do to get respect?

Not to sound alarmist or anything, but it is VERY interesting that this comet has come from the same area of the sky as Algol,

Not astrology, but astronomy. The fact that GOD uses signs in the heavens to alert us to things is very clear.

I invite serious thought to explore this event. It will go mostly unnoticed by the world.

Astrology.
Astra Logos

The meaning in the Stars.
The Word in the Stars.

Don't be frightened to claim what is rightfully ours.

Satan has stolen the night skies from us..........he is the thief in the night sky.

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Trumpet:

The heavens declare the glory of God;

Thanks Marcus...

Leaving some clips and clues from the above evidence below, Gavrial said,

He WAS REVEALED on October 12, 2007!

Didn't we say that because of ‘strong delusion’, NO ONE would understand? What we must understand is this comet 'lit up' ON DAY 1948, THE YEAR OF HIS BIRTH, 3-31-48 in Daniel’s ‘2300 day countdown’ to 0ctober 9, 2008.

An OBVIOUS CLUE;
AL gol-GORgon-AL-gol-GORgon

The sign that Yeshua wants us to look for, is that not only he is ‘coming to redeem us’ in this the “year of the redeemed” Isaiah 63:4 but His people gained their independence in 1948!
Praise His mighty name, gavrial

CLIPS AND CLUES FROM THIS POST:
I have CAPITALIZED major clues and EVERYTHING (bracketed) will say my comments

This point is in the constellation of Perseus, who holds the severed head of the GORGON, Medusa. This intersection point just happens to be the middle of the head of Medusa AT THE EYE. This EYE IS the star ALGOL. Traditionally, according to the Starlore Handbook, ALGOL is the MOST MALEVOLENT star of the heavens.

My comment:
(LOOK AT YOUR ‘DOLLAR BILL, his eye, THE ‘EYE’ of his revealing is everywhere, the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ have been at work since BEFORE the ‘plains of Shinar!)

My comment: (This Leary quote is from 10 years ago)
John Leary messages, and Patricia Talbot THINK A COMET will be A SIGN of the COMING OF ANTICHRIST.
John Leary message excerpt: Thursday, March 27, 1997: (Holy Thursday) Jesus said:

"My son, this comet that you have seen tonight with your own eyes, is the sign of the Anti-Christ's coming. I have told you before to look to the skies for the signs of things to come. I have also told you that I, and not the Anti-Christ, would produce this sign of his coming. As you see the darkness come after, you will know HIS REIGN WILL BE BRIEF, but darkness will have its day much like the men I allowed to crucify Me for your sake."

My comment:
(He will be crowned on December 10 and ‘anointed’ at a “gala extravaganza” on the 11th, thrown into the “lake of fire” on 9-30-08. It will be a “BREIF” 295 day reign. Notice the 11, he follows or is of the last 10 Presidents)

I love coincidences, unfortunately our own conclusions of what the coincidences mean is mere subjective speculation. But, if that is all we have, then speculation will suffice until the evidence gets harder. In searching for something meaningful about the Antichrist which has to do with April 11 (1996 & 1997), except for it occurring near the Passover season, little relevance is determined.

My comment:
(No coincidences with OUR GOD, running with the ‘vision’ removes the ‘fake’ countdown and clears up the ‘deluded smoke’ from the 70’s and 80’s false teachers)

A little history about the star Agol: "The Demon Star"

Homer wrote of Algol in the Iliad: "...THE GORGONS HEAD, a ghastly sight, deformed and dreadful, and A SIGHT OF WOE". Even astrologers refer to it as THE WORST STAR in the heavens to be involved with.

More recently, the name Algol has been given to A VIOLENT video game. What does a star have to do to get respect?

Not to sound alarmist or anything, but it is VERY interesting that this comet has come from the same area of the sky as Algol,

My comment:
(Who wrote this SHOULD BE ALARMED his ‘fifth seal’ and marking times comes this December, his ‘gift’ to those who stay in their ‘lies!)

NOT astrology, BUT ASTRONOMY. The fact that GOD uses signs in the heavens to alert us to things is very clear.

My comment:
(Correct, Gods Mazzaroth is used throughout scripture for signs and for seasons!)

I INVITE SERIOUS THOUGHT to explore this event. It will go mostly unnoticed by the world.

My comment:
(That’s what I have done, pray daily and REPENT and from the lies as to get your hearts prepared so we can escape and be ‘sealed by angels’ and taken to the wilderness for 40 weeks and wait upon and see the ‘glorious return’ of our Savior!)

Giving Him the glory, In day 1954, Gavrial

Gav,
I appreciate your response to this. I really do! I have to agree that it seems rather ODD that Al Gore would be awarded with the Nobel Peace Prize (on October 12, 2007) for a movie with so many factual lies that it is not funny. That he claims to have 'invented' the internet. Al Gore was born on March 31, 1948. I understand who you are talking about. The 'world' loves him, and thinks he walks on water from an environmental point of view. I do not think he is the ac, however. I think he oneof the 'false prophets' that spring up around the ac. He may be the right hand man of the ac, however. I can see that. The world loves the guy.

Al Gore has always bothered me. He made such a stink about losing the 2000 presidential election as if he was 'destined' to win it (the enemy's plan thwarted?). He has gone on to herald the lie of 'global warming' as if the earth should be worshipped and cared for like an idol intead of subdued (but cared for) by man as GOD wanted it:

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Ge 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Ge 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Ge 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Ge 1:29 And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
Ge 1:30 "Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food"; and it was so.
Ge 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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So many people have bought into the religion and lie of global warming. Many extremeists claim that the earth would be better off without the human race (sounds just like what satan would say - after all, if he could 'off' us all, he would to thwart GOD' plan of salvation). I do not agree that Al Gore is the anti-christ for one other important reason - the anti-christ must be someone that the Jews believe is the Messiah for a short time. The ac will enable things to happen - peace between Israel and the surrounding nations, the temple being rebuilt, etc. These are the things that 'thinking, intelligent' jews would coin as 'miraculous' since intelligent people agree 'miracles' or sudden healing or transfiguration or anything that JESUS did was merely fanciful tales of embellished fact. You know, it is too much like 'magic'! Al Gore is the kind of guy who would follow the ac because the ac will be viewed by the world as the messiah. The ac will look at Al Gore (and others like him) as 'presidential' material - say, one of the 'ten kings' of Rev.17:12 & 13 (there's his chance to be president of the US finally)! He is the type of person who would throw his endorsement and admiration and authority and power at someone who could pull off the things I mentioned above. Recommended reading: Matthew 7:15, Matthew 24:11, Matthew 24:24, mark 13:22, Luke 6:26, 2 Peter 2:1, 1 John 4:1). Be ready!

I hope you are not upset that I disagree with you on this one. I think you are on the right track, but I believe there is another person who is the ac. I believe it is someone who is closer to the region of the middle east than to Tennessee. But time - a short time from now, apparently! - will tell. In any case, we must be prepared for the coming of the LORD. Persecutions are on the rise for Christians, and those persecutions will reach US shores as well unless the US is nuked or put out of commission somehow, which many believe will happen anyway. We MUST be ready - be a wise virgin! (Matthew 25).

I read on a few other sites that some think that the comet will strike the earth, possibly like Wormwood in Rev. 8:11. I am not sure of that either. We will see. However, there is no tail on the comet as of the writing of this reply, so unless it is not really 'off gassing' very much (which would be VERY strange), it may be heading for us straight on. This is speculative at best.

Thanks for considering this event. Blessings of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control to you from GOD THE FATHER and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST through the HOLY SPIRIT!

gr82bsaved

that was my first thought when I saw it...it's heading straight for us.
It seems to fit in well with my dream of the lion...yes something is headed for us..of that I'm pretty sure.

blessings...

EXPLODING COMET: Exploding Comet 17P/Holmes is now larger than Jupiter. Astronomer Eric Allen of Quebec's Observatoire du Cégep de Trois-Rivières combined images he captured on three consecutive nights (Oct. 25, 26 and 27) and placed them beside a picture of Jupiter scaled to the same distance as the comet:

The diaphanous and curiously spherical cloud surrounding the comet's core is now large enough to swallow the King of Planets! It's gotten so big, in fact, that many observers say they can see it without a telescope. "I estimate the comet's brightness at magnitude +2.2 and last night I could see the disk easily with the naked eye," reports Martin McKenna of Maghera, Northern Ireland. "I saw the disk, too," says Doug Zubenel of Lincoln County, Kansas. Bill Smith of puts the comet "at magnitude +2.1--nearly as bright as Polaris"--and notes that "to the naked eye, it is no longer a simple point of light." [sky map]

What would make a comet explode in this fashion? Actually, a better question is, what would make a comet explode twice in this fashion? This is the second time Comet 17P/Holmes has erupted. The first was in 1892, an outburst that led to the comet's discovery by British astronomer Edwin Holmes.

The answer may be sinkholes. There is growing evidence that some comets and asteroids may have a porous internal structure akin to, say, swiss cheese or a honycomb. Suppose one of the chambers of the honycomb suddenly collapsed, exposing many square kilometers of fresh cometary ice to sunlight for the first time. A flurry of sublimation would ensue with mega-jets of dusty gas emerging from the sinkhole to create a cloud around the comet much as we see now. Twice = two sinkholes, one in 1892 and one in 2007.

Because no one can see the comet's nucleus--it is small, far away and hidden inside a Jupiter-sized debris cloud--this "explanation" is no more than conjecture. The true events at the core of Comet Holmes remain unknown. Grab your telescope and savor the mystery!

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Something that stood out to me is that exactly 1/2 year after passover is the Feast of Succot. Which is the "holiday" the the Jewish believe that the end days war will occur. The torah reading is Ezekiel 38 as well as the story of Noah.

One of the things celebrated also is the wheat harvest. (wasn't "wheat" in the hand of the "woman" mentioned in the stars???? don't know)

Is it all connected????


also..... something I thought............




The word "Rosh" also reminded me of Ezekiel 38.

Ezekiel 38:2 Gog prince of Rosh (is one translation)

Interesting.

gr82bsaved on Oct 28, 2007 at 11:14 AM in post #126622 said,


I hope you are not upset that I disagree with you on this one. I think you are on the right track, but I believe there is another person who is the ac. I believe it is someone who is closer to the region of the middle east than to Tennessee. But time - a short time from now, apparently! - will tell.

Hi Miche and I appeciate your caring and concerns,

I have one question, in regards to you 'not believing' the 'G' man is the one.

Why is this Building, click link, and this ‘huge’ ugly statue IN HIS BIRTH STATE, TENNESSEE? Notice ‘Nike’ with the ‘victory wrap’ in her hand. She’s waiting as the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ are. For the 12-10 crowning and the 12-11 anointing!
http://www.theparthenoncode.com/features/0...owObvious01.jpg

Click link, Here he holds ‘comet 17 Holmes in his hands’ http://www.breakfornews.com/ and Daniel 7:20 & 24, it said a ‘11th’ would arise “after’ the ten, this cross references to Revelation SEVENTEEN 17:12-13 is NOT IT NAMED COMET 17 again 17?

Click below to see the antichrist’s temple from where he will conduct his ‘deal doings’ during his ‘short reign’ of terror in the middle east. This was dedicated on November 10, 1992, exactly SEVEN DAYS after he came on the world political scene!

Notice the ‘eye’ in that triangular capstone on the roof, remember one of the MEANINGS OF HIS NAME from the “four characteristic” post was ‘triangular!
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysn...iewer.asp?a=817

"IT WILL BE AT THIS TIME, SOMETIME BETWEEN OCTOBER 26 AND NOVEMBER 11, 2007 WILL ALSO BE FULFILLED"

The above is quoted from an October 6, 2007 post SIX DAYS BEFORE his revealing called
Antichrist 'revealed' October 12, 2007

No, he is the “One out of many” and now we are going to have to deal with ‘DAY 1967’ in the 2300 DAY countdown, 11-11-2007.

If day 1948, represents Israel’s independence, and the ‘their redeemer’ Yeshua as the ‘breaker’ in the constellation Perseus, who is seen holding the ‘head’ of the antichrist

Then we’ve got to seriously look at ‘day 1967’ in the ‘2300 day countdown, as the coming “day of vengeance” for his temple mount, that is about to be ‘divided up’ for gain by the antichrist Daniel 11:39!
Israel gave up the ‘temple mount’ in June of 1967. The Hebraic month of Heshvan ends on November 10/11 and is not without coincidence.

These NEXT FOUR PARAGRAPHS are from ‘Antichrist revealed October 12’ post;

His “revealing” will start a ‘year’ of troublous “times”, although the text in Daniel 11:21 does say he will “come in peaceably and with flatteries” this will be more of an ‘acclamation of title’.

He will not come into Jerusalem UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER Jeremiah 50:23 and 31-32 is fulfilled, when the “Hammer of the whole earth is torn asunder and broken” as our President stumbles and falls, while fires are being kindled in his cities.

It WILL BE AT THAT TIME, sometime between October 26 and November 11, 2007 that Jeremiah 51:27-28 and Isaiah 13:6-17 will also be fulfilled.

Remember Paul said in II Thessalonians 2:3, that the ‘Day of the Lord’ SHALL NOT COME until the “son of perdition” is revealed’.

Then stating in I Thessalonians 5:2-3 that it’ll be WHEN THEY ARE TALKING “peace and safety” that the ‘Day of the Lord’ COMES UPON THEM with ‘sudden destruction’ and they shall not escape.

Forum members and guests, HE’S BEEN REVEALED.

Yes, the ‘vengeance of His temple’ is a ‘sudden reality’ in Luke 21:26 it says, “Mens hearts will be failing them for fear, for looking after those things which ARE COMING ON THE EARTH, for the powers of the heaven shall be shaken.

Flee from the ‘traditional lies’ a run with the vision it is true, giving Him the glory, gavrial

Hi Roxy!
I looked up spaceweather.com this afternoon as soon as I saw your reply. Amazing! I don't think that it is common for comets to balloon to a size a big as Jupiter (at least not in terms of the dust cloud around it) but perhaps. I have not seen any evidence that this is normal, so I assume it is not. It is alarming anyway!
I got out the telescope last night when I first read the story and looked at it. Really did not need it anyway, it is very easy to see. I am very curious to see what it looks like tonight since the comet's size has enlarged so much. It is an interesting sign, is it not?

If I get a chance to take some pics of it through my telescope I will post them up on the board. Everyone should see this thing, however. Wonders and signs in the heavens for sure!

One last thing - the major news networks don't seem to notice this at all. It's all about politics and other nonsense.

Blessings to you all in JESUS name

So Todd, this comet would only be visible in the Northern Hemisphere ? ( Pardon my ignorance, but this is not something that I have knowledge about, but logic suggest that I would not be able to see it here)

C

Hi Gav,
Sorry I don't share your belief with you at the moment. I do agree that Gore is an integral part of all of this, however. His global warming message and intense passion for world notice is not inspiring to me at all. I think he is a false prophet, and a false christ at best. He is distributing lies, and doing it on a grand scale. His facts do not add up. And he is making a LOT of money pushing this stuff. He is a false prophet.

I also do not think that the US is Babylon.

I agree that comet Holmes 17p is a sign in the heavens that is telling us that the ac is around. The fact that the comet has ballooned in size to become bigger than Jupiter - at least the dust cloud around it anyway - could be interpreted, if one were to take the meaning behind the comet to be symbolic of the ac - of an 'angel of light' who has come to save the world (like the headline of Gore in the link you provided). The comet is making a big scene, which the world is largely ignoring at the moment.

In my opinion there is another man who fits the ac model much better than Gore. His name is El Hassan bni Talal, the Prince of Jordan. He is a gentile Muslim (born March 20, 1947 to an Egyptian mother who was also British), and president for life of the Club of Rome (Rome sits on the Seven Hills). He speaks six languages, has published many books, and is greatly admired by both the Sunni and Shiite Muslims. He is also a direct descendant of Mohammad!

He believes that the three major monotheistic world religions - Abrahamic, 'christian', and Islamic - should unite because he has stated that they all share a common belief. Here this is an excerpt of the speech he gave at the UNESCO headquarters in Paris, France on Feb. 28, 1998:

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"Prince Hassan made a forceful appeal for the peaceful coexistence among
cultures and religions, and pointed to the history of the three monotheistic
religions which have their roots in his region. They contain the seeds for an
ethical code of conduct, he said, appealing for the preservation of diversity
in the face of globalisation which should not lead to confrontation."
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Now the three monotheistic religions Prince Hassan refers to is Abrahamic, Christians, and Islamics. He say's he is in the Christians Category. Let's look at this:

Abrahamic - We know that Abrahamic is the true christians of God
or God of Abraham, in which Jesus and the Holy Bible
came from, along with Judaism.

Christians - The christians the prince refers to are the Ibrahim Religion
Created By Mohammad, or simply put, the
Muslim Religion. This is a combination of
Abrahamic, Islamic, and Arab Paganism.

Islams - Islamic is one of the prodominant religions in the area,
also claim to be the true christians.


He also said "I thought that this is too much to try and form a religion, from 3 that all think theirs is the true christian religion. That's what got them to fighting in the first place."

By the way, he has a rightful claim to the throne of Iraq (Irag was a kingdom after Transjordan split apart in 1916 and had two kings - the last was his uncle!), which, in my opinion, is the only way the whole Iraq thing could end - with the return of a monarchy type government (like Jordan and Syria). I also wonder- this is only speculation on my part - if he were involved that he would try to reunite Jordan, Iraq and Syria? Again, that is just conjecture on my part. The prince could easily be called 'The Assyrian" ( because Assyria was Iraq, Syria and Jordan less than 100 years ago). Look at Isaiah:

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Isa 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his WHOLE WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria , and the glory of his high looks.

Isa 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in MY land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
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It is my opinion that the ac will be from the middle east. But again, that is my belief. You don't have to agree with me. I just disagree that Al Gore is the ac. I do not want to go on with this debate either. I am interested in people comig to know JESUS CHRIST, not the pros and cons of Al Gore or El Hassan bni Talal as the ac.

So back to the comet - it is exciting to watch all of this stuff! I wonder what else is store for us tomorrow?

Blessings to you all in JESUS CHRIST

gr82bsaved

Hi C,
Yes, you can see it in south Africa. It is visible in Australia, so you should be able to see it as well. It is appearing to the left thigh of Perseus. It looks like a fuzzy yellowish star. According to reports I read earlier today it is growing in size dramatically, so it should be easy to see. I looked at it last night, and it is as bright as the stars of the Ursa Major (Big Dipper). That is a magnitude of 2.9 or so.

Blessings in JESUS name

gr82bsaved

Forum members and guests, I have one question, why is this Parthenon replica standing in Tennessee and not Europe, Rome or India?

As a matter of fact, wouldn't one of these states that depend on tourism for revenue California, Florida, Nevada and DC and NY City be the more logical place for this building and statue?

We know why this Building, click link, and this ‘huge’ ugly statue are in TENNESSEE, its his STATE OF BIRTH!

Notice ‘Nike’ in Athenas' right hand, with the ‘victory wrap’ in her hand. She’s waiting as the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ are. For the December 10, 2007 crowning and the December 11 anointing!
http://www.theparthenoncode.com/features/0...owObvious01.jpg

Click this link, He is holding ‘comet 17 Holmes in his hands’ http://www.breakfornews.com/

In Daniel 7:20 & 24, it says a ‘11th’ would arise “after’ the ten, this cross references to Revelation SEVENTEEN:12-13 is NOT IT NAMED COMET 17 again 17?

Click below to see the antichrist’s temple from where he will conduct his ‘deal doings’ during his ‘short reign’ of terror in the middle east.

This was dedicated on November 10, 1992, exactly SEVEN DAYS after he came ON THE WORLD POLITICAL scene!

Notice the ‘eye’ in that triangular capstone on the roof of the 'Supreme court Building, remember one of the MEANINGS OF HIS NAME from the “four characteristic” post was ‘triangular!
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysn...iewer.asp?a=817

"I t will be at this time, SOMETIME BETWEEN OCTOBER 26 AND NOVEMBER 11, 2007 this will ALSO BE FULFILLED"

The above quote from a 10-6-07 post SIX DAYS BEFORE his revealing called "Antichrist revealed October 12, 2007

No, he is the “One out of many” and now we are going to have to deal with ‘DAY 1967’ in the 2300 DAY countdown, 11-11-2007.

If day 1948, represents Israel’s independence, and the ‘their redeemer’ Yeshua as the ‘breaker’ in the constellation Perseus, who is seen holding the ‘head’ of the antichrist

Then we’ve got to seriously look at ‘day 1967’ in the ‘2300 day countdown, as the coming “day of vengeance” for his temple mount, that is about to be ‘divided up’ for gain by the antichrist Daniel 11:39!

Israel gave up the ‘temple mount’ in June of 1967. The Hebraic month of Heshvan ends on November 10/11 and is not without coincidence.

These NEXT FOUR PARAGRAPHS are from ‘Antichrist revealed October 12’ post;

His “revealing” will start a ‘year’ of troublous “times”, although the text in Daniel 11:21 does say he will “come in peaceably and with flatteries” this will be more of an ‘acclamation of title’.

He will not come into Jerusalem UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER Jeremiah 50:23 and 31-32 is fulfilled, when the “Hammer of the whole earth is torn asunder and broken” as our President stumbles and falls, while fires are being kindled in his cities.

It WILL BE AT THAT TIME, sometime between October 26 and November 11, 2007 that Jeremiah 51:27-28 and Isaiah 13:6-17 will also be fulfilled.

Remember Paul said in II Thessalonians 2:3, that the ‘Day of the Lord’ SHALL NOT COME until the “son of perdition” is revealed’.

Then stating in I Thessalonians 5:2-3 that it’ll be WHEN THEY ARE TALKING “peace and safety” that the ‘Day of the Lord’ COMES UPON THEM with ‘sudden destruction’ and they shall not escape.

Forum members and guests, HE’S BEEN REVEALED.

Yes, the ‘vengeance of His temple’ is a ‘sudden reality’ in Luke 21:26 it says, “Mens hearts will be failing them for fear, for looking after those things which ARE COMING ON THE EARTH, for the powers of the heaven shall be shaken.

Flee from the ‘traditional lies’ a run with the vision it is true, giving Him the glory, gavrial

BEWARE THE GOBLIN: "Just in time for Halloween -
a Goblin Comet!" says Doctor Terry Pundiak who took this spooky picture of Comet 17P/Holmes through his 16-inch telescope in Easton, Pennsylvania. Contrary to appearances, the core of the comet has not split in two. The two eyes are an illusion caused by background stars shining through the comet's gaseous envelope: gallery.
http://www.spaceweather.com/



I ventured out last night, but the clouds got the better of my view. So I tried early this morning and was able to get a real nice view. It's been cloudy the past few days here, so I was happy to be able to finally see it. Did you get to see it Todd? This picture struck me odd a bit..because in my lion dream there were two objects tumbling towards earth. I wish I had a good telescope.

Hi Roxy,
I was able to see it last night, but it was a bit hazy in the upper atmosphere here. I read some posts on a comet tracking site where some photographers were claiming the core had split in two, while others claimed it had not. I also find it interesting that Mars is so bright in the night sky as well! I took a peek before going to bed and Mars had risen in the east, about 80 degrees from north. Mars was very bright and very red. This was between 11:30 PM and 12:00 AM CST.

The big question is what is this comet going to do? Lots of people speculate the core will split in two if it has not done it already. Most are watching it as long as it is visible because of it's unusual behavior, with the gas cloud growing to a little bit bigger than the planet Jupiter. We will see.

As far as the ac being revealed, I agree that it may be the sign of that revelation. We will need to see which events unfurl as time marches on...

Blessings to you in the name of the most high, JESUS CHRIST!

gr82bsaved

Thanks for the update.

This phenomena is very interesting.

Although most people do not know or care, I think it is a sign to the Jews as they soon begin their peace talks 1260 +1335 years exactly from when the siege of Jerusalem began, which led to the fall of Jerusalem 2.5 years later, (Dec. 589 BC to July 586 BC). (For 1260 and 1335 see Dan. 12, Rev. 12).

Here is an excerpt from one site that I have been frequenting since the comet showed up:

(go to http://astroprofspage.com/archives/1293 for the full blog)

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Comet Holmes (technically 17P/Holmes) orbits the Sun once every about 7 years. It was at its perihelion [closest point to the Sun] early this past summer, and it was at its brightest then [even at it's brightest it typically can not be seen with the unaided eye]. It peaked at about 14th magnitude [too faint to see without a telescope]. It had been steadily fading for the past four or five months, and was getting close to 17th magnitude. Then, in less than a day, it brightened to about magnitude 2.5. That’s about a 600,000 times increase in brightness. That is pretty much unheard of for a comet. Yes, they can brighten by that much, but not in one day! That is something that I don’t remember ever happening since I got into astronomy. I also don’t remember any comet having this much activity this far from the Sun. Of course, this particular comet apparently did something like this 115 years ago (and at about the same time of year, too, since it was discovered in early November). [brackets indicate comments by gr82bsaved]
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Future position chart follows below. Notice that the comet stays in the constellation of Perseus throughout the month of March 2008:



So this one will be around for quite a while. It will be interesting to see which events manifest themselves while the comet is visible.

Blessings of peace from GOD THE FATHER, and from JESUS CHRIST THE LORD OF LORDS!

gr82bsaved

One of the interesting features of this comet is that it looks more like a star then a comet because it lacks a tail.

It reminds me of the star of Bethlehem at the birth of Jesus.

Perhaps it is not a coincidence that Tropical Storm Noel formed yesterday, which means, "Born On Christmas Day".


Just thinking out loud!


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[MIAMI, Oct 29 (Reuters) - Tropical Storm Noel dumped torrential rain on vulnerable Haiti on Monday, triggering fears of deadly flash floods and mudslides in the impoverished Caribbean country.

The storm weakened overnight and had top sustained winds of 45 miles per hour (70 km per hour) by daybreak after it washed ashore on Haiti's southern coast and started to be disrupted by mountains, the U.S. National Hurricane Center said.

Nevertheless, the slow-moving system was pouring 10 to 20 inches (25 cm to 51 cm) of rain over the treeless hillsides of Haiti and in some areas downpours of up to 30 inches (76 cm) were possible, the Miami-based hurricane center said.

The poorest country in the Americas, Haiti frequently suffers from deadly floods because 90 percent of its forests have been chopped down, mainly to make charcoal.

In 2004, the passage to the north of Haiti of Tropical Storm Jeanne as it headed to Florida, where it would become a hurricane, buried the port city of Gonaives in mud, killing 3,000 people. Earlier that year, spring flooding in the south killed 2,000 more.

Haiti has already been soaked this year.

In the first two weeks of October torrential rains killed at least 31 people, most of them in Cabaret, a village nestled in mountains just north of the capital Port-au-Prince, and made 1,000 people homeless.

By 8 a.m. EDT (1200 GMT), the center of the storm was located near Port-au-Prince, the hurricane center said.

Noel was moving to the north-northwest at a slow 6 mph (9 kph) and its projected path, though highly uncertain, was expected to take it near eastern Cuba and then over the Bahamas into the Atlantic. If the computer models proved correct, the storm would not present a threat to Florida, nor to critical U.S. oil and gas facilities in the Gulf of Mexico.

Interesting thought Shekel...since the bible is broken up into so many parallels it would make sense...star of Bethleham...Jesus is born. Star of satan...well we'll have to wait and see.

The following scripture seems to include these three signs as one:

Jerusalem being "trod of the Gentiles", beginning exactly 1260 + 1335 years ago, and the peace talks now set to begin!

Signs in the heaven, (the unusual Comet Holmes),

And signs on the earth by way of storm.

(And Storm "Noel", means "born on Christmas". Note verse 24 below and recall the events surrounding the birth of Christ when they had to flee Jerusalem for Egypt just as they did in 586 BC. Note also the birth in Rev. 12 and the "1260 days". Note, "and there was war in heaven", with the comet in the constellation of "The Hero", who is striking off the head of his enemy).

Now read these verses spoken by Jesus...

Coincidences?


Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


So what am I saying?

So I am saying that this seems to be yet another triad of signs that God frequently gives that encourage us to wait patiently for His coming --- for it will come as surely as His first coming came.

This does not mean that these things will happen now!

Perhaps the times of the Gentiles is being phased out one more step at this time?

This is my undertanding of all these things.

God is slowly (in stages) turning his attention back to the Jew, to save them, just as He turned away from them is stages in Ezekiel 8, (--- 1260 + 1335 years ago).

And God is saying that now marks another stage in this returning to the Jewish people, to turn their eyes to see that Yeshua is their Hero/Savior, and not another.

Comments?

Hi Shekel,
I agree. The comet is on the opposite side of the Sun from us. From the comets POV, the Sun and the Earth are within 15 degrees of each other. That is pretty close by most standards. It is also interesting that by now the comet would be a magnitude 17 in brightness. FYI - magnitude of brightness is on a logarithmic scale, so the bigger the number, the less bright the object is. Polaris has a +1.9 magnitude, and is one of the three brightest stars in the sky. The comet is flying away from the Sun as well, so this indeed very strange - it is the opposite of what we would expect. Finally, we are looking at the comet lengthwise, so the tail would be behind it. It does not seem to have one, however. Instead, it has a spherical dust cloud sorrounding it the size of Jupiter! So all in all, this is quite a show, and one that HAS to have some type of prophetic significance. If we could tie the events of talks about Jerusalem to the events of the comet, that may reveal a few things. In addition, Gavrial is convinced that this is a sign about the anti-christ. I agree with that, since the comet crossed Algol (the star the Hebrews call the 'head of satan') and since it remains in the constellation of Perseus who killed the Gorgon Medusa in Greek mythology. Add in what you mentioned earlier, and we have a picture evolving.

I look forward to how much more we can discover.

Blessings to you and Praise and Glory to the ONE who created all things through JESUS CHRIST!

gr82bsaved

I agree that the comet refers to Satan, but only in the sense that He is a defeated foe. Yeshua, like David of old, kills the giant and removes his head and parades it around Jerusalem to show His victory.

If it is a sign of antichrist, then it is a sign that he is as good as dead in God's sight!

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The usually dim Comet 17P Holmes blazes away in this Oct. 25 image from the observatory (Harvard MPC H45) at Petit Jean Mountain in Arkansas. The comet continued to brighten overnight and reached magnitude 2.0, approaching the brilliance of some of the brightest stars.






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I've been thinking of the dragon code on another string...his 4 heads?

I agree that the comet refers to Satan, but only in the sense that He is a defeated foe. Yeshua, like David of old, kills the giant and removes his head and parades it around Jerusalem to show His victory.

If it is a sign of antichrist, then it is a sign that he is as good as dead in God's sight!

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The usually dim Comet 17P Holmes blazes away in this Oct. 25 image from the observatory (Harvard MPC H45) at Petit Jean Mountain in Arkansas. The comet continued to brighten overnight and reached magnitude 2.0, approaching the brilliance of some of the brightest stars.

Ok now I'm interested. We are going to look tonight. I think we still can.
Kim

gr82bsaved whether knowingly or not was speaking prophetically, when she said,

"Notice that the comet stays in the constellation of Perseus THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF MARCH 2008, So this one will be around for quite a while. It will be interesting to see WHICH EVENTS MANIFEST THEMSELVES while the comet is visible.

Forum members and guests, What we have to remember, this was a 'huge explosion' THAT EXPANDED IN EVERY DIRECTION, whose baggage will most likely bring the 'censer' and first 'four trumpets'. These trumpets, especially the first three could arrive almost simultaneously?

This explosion took place 151 million miles from earth, so these objects traveling at 45,000 mph could be entering our atmosphere, depending where the earths orbit is, anytime after January, possibly slightly sooner and still give plenty room for the 'fifth trumpets' appearance in April.

Will NASA or our government keep us posted, we shall see, but according to Luke 21:26, SOMETHING IS SEEN COMING IN.

The 'fifth' trumpet, which I'm expecting around Passover, April 20, 2008, will eat up FIVE MONTHS or 150 days of our timeline that has now shrunk as of today to 335 days till the return.

It very well could be this 'demon star Al Gol, thats referred to in this text out of Luke,

In Luke 21:26 it says, “Mens hearts will be failing them for fear, for looking after those things which ARE COMING ON THE EARTH;

THE 'GOOD NEWS'

What we have to KEEP OUR EYES ON, is who has 'Al Gol's' head. Perseus, in the Mazzaroth represents Yeshua, AS THE BREAKER.

He is reminding us, that it is HIM, who IS COMING to 'break us out' of our 'place of refuge' in the wilderness, where God had kept us 40 weeks, since 12-25-07.

WHY IS HE 'BREAKING US OUT?

God is about to 'pour out' His seven vials of wrath on an 'unrepentant' world for 10 days, till the 'vision' of 2300 days ends on October 9, 2008!

Are we all coming to the understanding that we are getting 'squeezed for time'?

PLANNED WELL IN ADVANCE

Check this link for a history of 'Al Gols' Nashville's Parthenon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_Parthenos

I have one question, why is this Parthenon replica standing in Tennessee and not Europe, Rome or India?

As a matter of fact, wouldn't one of these states that depend on tourism for revenue California, Florida, Nevada and DC and NY City be the more logical place for this building and statue?

We know why this Building, click link, and this ‘huge’ ugly statue are in TENNESSEE, its his STATE OF BIRTH!

Notice ‘Nike’ in Athenas' right hand, with the ‘victory wrap’ in her hand. She’s waiting as the ‘Conspirators of Psalm 2’ are. For the December 10, 2007 crowning and the December 11 anointing!
http://www.theparthenoncode.com/features/0...owObvious01.jpg

Click this link, He is holding ‘comet 17 Holmes in his hands’ http://www.breakfornews.com/

In Daniel 7:20 & 24, it says a ‘11th’ would arise “after’ the ten, this cross references to Revelation SEVENTEEN:12-13 is NOT IT NAMED COMET 17 again 17?

Click below to see the antichrist’s temple from where he will conduct his ‘deal doings’ during his ‘short reign’ of terror in the middle east.

This was dedicated on November 10, 1992, exactly SEVEN DAYS after he came ON THE WORLD POLITICAL scene!

Notice the ‘eye’ in that triangular capstone on the roof of the 'Supreme court Building, remember one of the MEANINGS OF HIS NAME from the “four characteristic” post was ‘triangular!
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysn...iewer.asp?a=817

"I t will be at this time, SOMETIME BETWEEN OCTOBER 26 AND NOVEMBER 11, 2007 this will ALSO BE FULFILLED"

The above quote from a 10-6-07 post SIX DAYS BEFORE his revealing called "Antichrist revealed October 12, 2007

No, he is the “One out of many” and now we are going to have to deal with ‘DAY 1967’ in the 2300 DAY countdown, 11-11-2007.

If day 1948, represents Israel’s independence, and the ‘their redeemer’ Yeshua as the ‘breaker’ in the constellation Perseus, who is seen holding the ‘head’ of the antichrist

Then WE'VE GOT TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT ‘day 1967’ in the ‘2300 day countdown, as the coming “day of vengeance” for his temple mount, that is about to be ‘divided up’ for gain by the antichrist Daniel 11:39!

Israel gave up the ‘temple mount’ in June of 1967. The Hebraic month of Heshvan ends on November 10/11 and is not without coincidence.

These NEXT FOUR PARAGRAPHS are from ‘Antichrist revealed October 12’ post;

His “revealing” will start a ‘year’ of troublous “times”, although the text in Daniel 11:21 does say he will “come in peaceably and with flatteries” this will be more of an ‘acclamation of title’.

He will not come into Jerusalem UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER Jeremiah 50:23 and 31-32 is fulfilled, when the “Hammer of the whole earth is torn asunder and broken” as our President stumbles and falls, while fires are being kindled in his cities.

It WILL BE AT THAT TIME, sometime between October 26 and November 11, 2007 that Jeremiah 51:27-28 and Isaiah 13:6-17 will also be fulfilled.

Remember Paul said in II Thessalonians 2:3, that the ‘Day of the Lord’ SHALL NOT COME until the “son of perdition” is revealed’.

Then stating in I Thessalonians 5:2-3 that it’ll be WHEN THEY ARE TALKING “peace and safety” that the ‘Day of the Lord’ COMES UPON THEM with ‘sudden destruction’ and they shall not escape.

Forum members and guests, HE’S BEEN REVEALED.

Yes, the ‘vengeance of His temple’ is a ‘sudden reality’ in Luke 21:26 it says, “Mens hearts will be failing them for fear, for looking after those things which ARE COMING ON THE EARTH, for the powers of the heaven shall be shaken.

Flee from the ‘traditional lies’ a run with the vision it is true, giving Him the glory, gavrial

Does Paul steer by the stars from Malta to Syracuse?
Its just a guess as to why he mentions the constellation of Gemini, and the fact that they don't have a compass until they get to Syracuse.

Act 28:11 ¶ And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria, which had wintered in the isle, whose sign was Castor and Pollux. 12 And landing at Syracuse, we tarried [there] three days. 13 And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli:

How can you say these things without any proof whasoever?

To say that this is one of the trumpets, or whatever, is very far fetched. The event is very obscure and unnoticed by the world.

In my opinion, it is just one of many signs that God is constantly giving since the days of Adam.

We should not make too much out of this sign other then a few basic points, namely, that Chist has overcome the devil, and will overcome him.

Interesting you say that, simplebaby. By July of 2008, the comet will be in the constellation of gemini.
Just thought I'd mention it.

gr82bsaved

shekel, have u not been listening? today is the day of the Lord (according to Gav)...come on man, get with the program

If one navigated the sea in Paul's time without a compass they used the stars as a guide to plot their course. So mentioning Gemini was for naviagtion and seasonal purposes.... I think Genesis mentiones they are given for igns as well. Unfrotunately, astrology has perverted what God intended.

It is odd behavior for a comet... my daughter saw it while driving to the store yesterday evening..it was so bright I almost rear ended a car since i was distracted by what she saw... thank God my brakes work and I have angels..

Gavrial responding to 'Shekel' on Oct 29, 2007 at 11:08 AM in post # 126828

Shekel asked,

How can you say these things without any proof whatsoever?

Shekel, The ‘2300 day vision’ IS ‘SQUEEZING ‘US for time. The events of Revelation 8:5-13, will SOON BE SEEN eventually from the earth, so something similar to this event HAS TO HAPPEN to bring these verses into fulfillment.

These events, trumpets, may be linear because asteroids have gone by our planet, only to be seen after passing! However, this event LOOKS TO HAVE ‘censer’ ramifications.

Shekel said, To say that this is one of the trumpets, or whatever, is very far fetched. The event is very obscure and unnoticed by the world.

Paul told us the world would be under ‘strong delusion’ and that Daniel’s vision, of which whose scroll he had access and was referring to when told them it was what would withhold the ‘revealing’ of the antichrist, Daniel 8:17 & 19. That it also would lets his revealing last until Yeshua takes him out of the way, Daniel 7:27, by throwing him into the ‘lake of fire’, Revelation 19:20.

UNTIL George Bush jr. announced his ‘vision’ of a ‘Roadmap to Peace’ THAT FULFILLED ‘DAY ONE’ of Daniel 8:13-14’s ‘vision of 2300 days’ on June 24, 2002, the revealing of the ‘AC’ WAS BEING WITHELD.

Then AFTER his announcement, the antichrist COULD BE revealed sometime ALONG THE WAY. And HE WAS, on October 12, 2007, as THE MANY uncoincidental characteristics and links PROVIDED HERE HAVE PROVED.

So now THAT HE HAS BEEN revealed, II Thessalonians 2:2-4, the ‘day of the Lord’ CAN COME upon the ‘children of darkness’ as a THEIF IN THE NIGHT, I Thessalonians 5:2-9.

Indeed the world is ‘talking peace and safety’. Today it was announced, Ted Turner, off all people, and Kofi Annan are joining the ‘peace talks’ and are going to Israel!

The ‘vengeance of His temple’, Jeremiah 50:28 and 51:11 is coming with “sudden destruction”.

As I said before, we are being squeezed for time. If you run with the ‘vision’ the lights ‘DO COME ON’ and it has, very quickly to many, and this will all make sense. Whether it is ‘day 1967’, 11-11-07, remains to be seen, but a lot of us, FEELING LIKE ORANGES are getting that ‘ORANGE JUICE’ feeling.

The ‘censer and trumpets’ are coming, and the comet ‘exploding’ on ‘day 1948’ IS SIGNIFICANT, it not only has the AC’s BIRTH YEAR but MAGNIFIES the ‘birth date’ year of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948.

As stated before on this site, in some circles around DC, Al Gore, is called ‘ol 45’ and was born exactly 45 days BEFORE Israel became a nation and he was ALSO the 45th VP the United States has had.

Shekel said, In my opinion, it is just one of many signs that God is constantly giving since the days of Adam. We should not make too much out of this sign other then a few basic points, namely, that Christ has overcome the devil, and will overcome him.

In Genesis 1:14 at the ‘time of Adam’ God did tell us that He uses His mazzaroth or constellations for signs and seasons.

The ‘anointed or Christ’ will overcome Satan after 1000 years, but what this Mazzaroth, Perseus, is telling us that GOD’S ‘ Anointed Messiah’ the ‘breaker’ who is ‘represented’ is coming to “REDEEM US” and it will be on that VERY DAY he will throw the ‘false prophet and antichrist’ into the lake of fire!

Shekel, the ‘delusion’ is SO STRONG’ that the place of refuge ‘in the wilderness’ is HARDLY DISCUSSED, thinking that its for Israel, FORGETTING THE FACT that we are ‘grafted’ into them and have this PRIVILEGE! This day ‘is a coming ‘big day’ that falls on 12-25-07 upon which the ‘remnant’ I believe go into the wilderness.

One more point of interest before I go. Ezekiel’s 4:5 390 day decree to become 390 years that eventually turned into 2730 year exile for the ‘House of Israel’ reaches maturity after two thousand and thirty years on December 21, 2007.

Does any one want to take guess AS TO WHAT DAY THAT WILL FALL ON in our ‘visions’ countdown? Its’ DAY 2007!

Not DAY 1971, not 2003 but 2007, it started 2730 years ago, ARE WE GETTING THE ‘PICTURE’ YET or is this ‘delusion’ even deeper than I believe it is??

Is the 2300 day vision THAT ‘DEMANDED’ the AC to BE REVEALED on October 12, 2007, telling us and WARNING US that it, the “he” that withheld and is now letting the AC do his thing. Daniel 7:25, IS ALSO DEMANDING OTHER DATES for us to be aware of as day 1948 was AND HAS BECOME?

That as ‘children of the light’ WE WILL BE AWARE, warning others while GETTING OUR LIVES IN ORDER, so his angels can come and SEAL US and take us to the ‘wilderness’ for 40 weeks ON December 12, 2007!

Shekel, this ‘vision’ is SO TRUE, I pray those with eyes to see, WILL SEE these ‘signs’ for what they are. Because they WILL BECOME more prevelant in the coming days, Shekel, may the Lord continue to bless your ministry richly and thank you, Gavrial

Gavrial,

Would you point me to the post, or explain how you derived the 12-25-2007 date. As we all know, Jesus was not born on December 25th. If I recall, Tammuz, the son of Semiramis and (son) Nimrod was.

Thanks.

In Christ,

Mike

bonomike on Oct 29, 2007 at 5:14 PM in post #126929 asked,

Gavrial,
Would you point me to the post, or explain how you derived the 12-25-2007 date.
Mike,

Yeshua was born on 15 Tishri 3761 or October 14th 1BC/AD on our calendar.

The December 25th date comes from it being 280 days or 40 weeks from September 30, 2008, the day Yeshua ‘breaks’ us out of our wilderness ‘sheepfold’ so God can pour out His wrath for 10 days on an unrepentant world, as the ‘vision’ of 2300 days ends on Tishri 10 5769 or October 9, 2008!

Thanks for the question, Gavrial

I will answer Gavrial later, but for now I want to pass along this email that a friend sent me:

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Looks like we are getting the (NOEL) ST/hurricane. Will be interesting to see how it winds up.

I've been looking more into the comet and found that Hale-bopp and Hyakutake crossed over Perseus "The Breaker"

3. PERSEUS ("The Breaker")
"The Breaker" delivering the redeemed

27. Perseus (the Breaker)
Here we have set before us a mighty man, called in the Hebrew Peretz, from which we have the Greek form Perses, or Perseus (Rom 16:13). It is the same word which is used of Christ in Micah 2:13. When He shall surely "gather the remnant of Israel" (v 12), it is written--

"THE BREAKER is gone up before them...

Their King is passed on before them,
And the LORD at the head of them."

This is what is pictured to us here. We see a glorious "Breaker" taking His place before His redeemed, breaking forth at their head, breaking down all barriers, and breaking the heads of Leviathan and all his hosts. In His right hand He has His "sore, and great, and strong sword" lifted up to smite and break down the enemy. He has wings on His feet, which tell us that He is coming very swiftly. In His left hand He carries the head of the enemy, whom he has slain.

In the Denderah Zodiac His Name is Kar Knem, he who fights and subdues.

It is a beautiful constellation of 59 stars, two of which are of the 2nd magnitude, four of the 3rd, twelve of the 4th, etc.

Their names supply us with the key to the interpretation of the picture.
The star a (in the waist) is called Mirfak, who helps. The next, g (in the right shoulder), is named Al Genib, which means who carries away. The bright star in the left foot is called Athik, who breaks!

In his left hand he carries a head, which, by perversion, the Greeks called the head of Medusa, being ignorant that its Hebrew root meant the trodden under foot. It is also called Rosh Satan (Hebrew), the head of the adversary, and Al Oneh (Arabic), the subdued, or Al Ghoul, the evil spirit.

The bright star, b (in this head), has come down to us with the name Al Gol, which means rolling round.

Go the above from a link off of the Biblicalastronomy web site:
http://www.biblicalastronomy.com/astronomy1.htm

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/default.htm

I will answer Gavrial later, but for now I want to pass along this email that a friend sent me:

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Looks like we are getting the (NOEL) ST/hurricane. Will be interesting to see how it winds up.

I've been looking more into the comet and found that Hale-bopp and Hyakutake crossed over Perseus "The Breaker"

3. PERSEUS ("The Breaker")
"The Breaker" delivering the redeemed

27. Perseus (the Breaker)
Here we have set before us a mighty man, called in the Hebrew Peretz, from which we have the Greek form Perses, or Perseus (Rom 16:13). It is the same word which is used of Christ in Micah 2:13. When He shall surely "gather the remnant of Israel" (v 12), it is written--

"THE BREAKER is gone up before them...

Their King is passed on before them,
And the LORD at the head of them."

This is what is pictured to us here. We see a glorious "Breaker" taking His place before His redeemed, breaking forth at their head, breaking down all barriers, and breaking the heads of Leviathan and all his hosts. In His right hand He has His "sore, and great, and strong sword" lifted up to smite and break down the enemy. He has wings on His feet, which tell us that He is coming very swiftly. In His left hand He carries the head of the enemy, whom he has slain.

In the Denderah Zodiac His Name is Kar Knem, he who fights and subdues.

It is a beautiful constellation of 59 stars, two of which are of the 2nd magnitude, four of the 3rd, twelve of the 4th, etc.

Their names supply us with the key to the interpretation of the picture.
The star a (in the waist) is called Mirfak, who helps. The next, g (in the right shoulder), is named Al Genib, which means who carries away. The bright star in the left foot is called Athik, who breaks!

In his left hand he carries a head, which, by perversion, the Greeks called the head of Medusa, being ignorant that its Hebrew root meant the trodden under foot. It is also called Rosh Satan (Hebrew), the head of the adversary, and Al Oneh (Arabic), the subdued, or Al Ghoul, the evil spirit.

The bright star, b (in this head), has come down to us with the name Al Gol, which means rolling round.

Go the above from a link off of the Biblicalastronomy web site:
http://www.biblicalastronomy.com/astronomy1.htm

http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/default.htm

Hi Shekel,
Your information matches the research I had conducted as well. The reason Al Gol means "rolling round" is that the star brightens and dims throughout a 69 hour period of time. It is an eclipsing binary star which dims one full magnitude in brightness about every three days when the larger dimmer star obscures (moves in front of) it (from our perspective).

All of it speaks of the granduer and wonder of GOD. HE is speaks to those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

May we have those senses about us!

Blessings in the name of JESUS CHRIST WHO IS EXALTED ABOVE THE HEAVENS!

gr82bsaved

Gavrial responding to Shekel on Oct 30, 2007, 9:00 AM post='127056 said,

Shekel, That's what I have been saying here the past 5 days. Yeshua is the 'Bright and Morning star. This event magnifying itself as a representation of our 'REDEEMER' 11 days after the 'revealing' IS NOT without significance.

We win, the 'breaker' has more than CRUSHED the 'Gorgon-Algol head!

I will say what I have been saying on this forum since August 2005, He will return in 345 days on September 30, 2008, the 2300 day vision DEMANDS it!

Giving Him the glory! gavrial

That's not what I have a problem with.

It is the setting of specific dates, and taking this tiny sign in the heavens to be a monumental event.

It is simply out of proportion. It is not that you are wrong in everything you have said.